Death panel originator Betsy McCaughey resigns in disgrace
source: http://www.examiner.com/x-4383-Portland-Progressive-Examiner~y2009m8d21-Death-panel-originat...
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mjsmith11
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Well, what about all of the other socialists who supported the very exact same death-panels? Thy are also a disgrace!!! Pelosi, Reid, and the rest.
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shotgnner870
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Hey all those in 'Left-Wing' lala~land, These mean spirited, America loving, Talk show host like Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly' Rush, Levin, Church, Mankow,Ingrahm,
Black Avenger IE:Ken Hamblin, etc,etc,etc, managed to
'OUT' the crazy, Socialist/Communist,Racist, Van Jones
he was a know-nothing fraud...Great job on their part!!!!
That road travels both ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 3 years ago
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shotgnner870
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NeutronActivation
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It's a sad state of affairs when "entertainment" is 10x more hard hitting than what most retarded douche bags consider "real" news. It doesn't take an "expert" to see the Emperor wears no clothes.... No, it just takes someone with the personal integrity to look beyond the Bull Shit to expose a dumb bimbo's intellectual nudity to the world. What's more embarrassing to be exposed by a top news man or Shecky Green? I'm sure this skank thought Stewart was a clown and look where it got her, unemployment.
Boo if you want but you know I'm right.
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remanns
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Another corporate pitchman strikes out.
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remanns
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E_Sanchez
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As I watched that interview I didn't know whether I wanted to cheer or cringe. It was a massacre to say the least.
She really thought she was going to pull one over on John Fucking Stewart?
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E_Sanchez
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Bood
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Holy crap! JON! YOU DID IT! She was enthusiastic in the interview but Jon just slammed her into the ground
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Bood
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Bood:
Except it means nothing. He's not News. The interview, therefore, is just fake and evidence against or for...nothing. He's as meaningful as Saturday Morning cartoons.
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Bood:
The thing is, if you go onto something like the Daily Show, have a legitimate discussion of ideas, and get blown out of the water, comedy show or not that really effects your credibility. John Stewart has earned a reputation for being very politically smart, and if he nails someones hide to the wall, he usually really nails it to the wall. The fact that she got schooled on a "Comedy" show rather than on "legitimate" news should be all the more embarrassing for her and the people she represents.
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Bood:
Not if they realize what is FACT.
He's not comedy. He's news that pretends to be comedy.
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kgt6969
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ahhh yes another wing nut falls off their stripped bolt
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artemis6
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Jon seems a lot like Mark Twain to me . He called himself a "Humorist " . This did not make what he wrote about any less true . It is interesting how some commentators , like Jon Stewart , use humor to make the truth more palatable , while others can use yelling and emotional bludgeons like "anger , patriotism , faith " to hide it and prevent rational effective discourse .
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artemis6:
So true. I appreciate the amazing multiple talents of both Jon Stewart and Bill Maher. Amazing humorists, intelligent, and with a knack for journalism of all things! They cut to the truth better than just about any of the "real news" programs... and a lot of great laughs to wash it down.
"Jesters do oft prove prophets" -Shakespeare - 3 years ago
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artemis6:
Which is why they should be held accountable for lies.
jokes may make one laugh, but if truth is sprinkled inside the joke....then truth is of the utmost importance or they are getting away with murder.
And that's not ok.
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wendyma
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I wish "TV journalists" would press harder and not let liars and propagandists off the hook so damn easily. From now on, broadcast journalism classes will have to get their case studies from John Stewart & Bill Maher. Serious students of journalism, can learn nothing from most of the networks - including CNN. Too many of these "anchors" are not journalists, they are spineless "personalities" who happen to have training in reading a teleprompter. And certainly nothing to glean from Fox "News"... unless the course is on a new genre called "propaganda in science fiction".
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wendyma
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alivein85
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I laughed when she couldn't find page 425... or was it 432? It's called post-it notes hahaha!
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smashingjoey
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After reading the press release, It sounded more like her resignation was a strategic move so she wouldn't look biased as she continues to fight against reform, and not that she was so humiliated by Stewart that she resigned.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think she is in any way defeated or throwing in the towel, unfortunately. - 3 years ago
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TommyDuncan
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Has anyone heard Stewart's response to her resignation?
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bastional
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This argument is a waist of time. You could take a right position or a left. It still at the end of the day doesn’t matter.
You either feel that healthcare is or is not a right of the American people of human beans for that matter. The right is arguing with what has been proven to be lies and the left is running around crying foul because of it. At the end of the day, it will be a vote.
The sad part for those that need this medical reform passed, for there own health, can’t vote on it. It is the elected officials that are not voting for their constituency as a whole, but instead voting for their personnel career, lobbies, and what ideology they signed onto to get elected.
It seems that ideologies are against each other for the sack of being against each other. We have found when that is their focus, nothing gets done and time is wasted.
I will die one day and so will you. There is a limit of time between now and then so lets quit acting like a bunch of school kids and get right down to a vote. It may loose, and those who voted against it will have their name on that vote forever in history. And all these pundits from the political media spectrum will have a record of there position as well.
Don’t be right people. Don’t be left either. Be moral.
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bastional:
http://current.com/items/90758630_this-system-has-to-be-reformed-david-frum.htm
more (rational) republicans are for it than not.
it'll pass. we dont need her or the neo-cons. let them pull the nuclear trigger. they can blow their heads off with it for good this time.
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bastional:
It is not about if health care is or isn't right---but how it's done.
Making it that way is like saying Democrats are good and Republicans are bad.
Lame.
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aznhonor
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I dont know if anyone has posted it yet, but here's the episode
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hunzedog
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American journalism is a joke. They force feed us whatever the government want us to hear..
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hunzedog:
And what the corporations want us to hear. Looks more and more like they are one and the same.
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iloveravi
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Is anyone else disgusted that a comedian is forced to do the job that the "journalists" are too fucking pathetic to do?
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iamaman
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iloveravi:
the problem with being a comedian compared to a journalist is one of credibility.
a vague statement made by a journalist will be picked apart.
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iamaman
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Ok, now all political opinions about healthcare aside, I watched the interview. She did come across as deliberately mis-stating facts (and the fact she is on the corporate payroll isn't surprising), but I would hardly say she is 'resigning in disgrace' because of the interview. This wasn't a 'nailed em' moment like when Stewart took Tucker Carlson to task or got Jim Cramer to apologize for his role in the economic collapse. I think the headline here is misleading, and no different than many inflated fox news headlines.
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bluestranger
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Before we consider this a clean sweep for the good guys let's think it through. Okay, so I enjoyed it but that's not the end of her. As has been suggested the insurance corporations have a thousand just like her ready to step in and fill her lucrative position. Something else to consider, she is part of the revolving door crew. Stepping back and forth between government and corporate world is her M.O. Remember this fellow named Dick Cheney? We haven't seen the last of her but at least she is firmly in the spotlight, thanks to Jon the dragon slayer.
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bluestranger:
He is no John Adams nor Thomas Paine.
Because both of the took anyone to task if they did anything wrong to anyone....no matter what side they were on.
Jon makes distinctions. Oh...he's talked to the screen when speaking to Obama about what he doesn't like but has he told Obama to his face?
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Did Jon read the entire bill? All 1,000 + pages HIMSELF?
Or did he rely on others to help him and tell him what part they had read?
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lifestudentno83
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J_Jammer:
Wrong.
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J_Jammer:
it is wrong that he didn't read it. He should read every single page not the Spark notes version.
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iamaman
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J_Jammer:
jammer
were people mean to you when you were a kid? or are you still one?
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iamaman
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J_Jammer:
Age isn't relevant. Because if maturity levels were based on age this entire site would be too young to drink.
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iamaman
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J_Jammer:
not in Scotland.
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iamaman
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J_Jammer:
Younger than that.
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Lola444
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It's funny that we need a comedian to see through all the bull****.
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uroborus8
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It is amazing the impact of real journalism. How many times did CNN, Fox News, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and others repeat the claims asserted by this woman? It took one "comedian" 15 minutes to bring her down with just a little fact checking.
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uroborus8:
No.
A news man to do it. He's news.
And he really did nothing but talk over her...and tell her what she said.
If he did not have a audience to pander to....he wouldn't do most of what he does.
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uroborus8:
Unlike Jon who mentions certain people just for popularity sake.
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uroborus8:
And yet people use that 'entertainment' as proof that they are right.
Please.
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After watching The Daily Show. I wanted to know how Betsy McCaughey had gotten this far in life. So I looked up The Hudson Institutue were she use to get paid by big "companies" to represent why they were helping the American people not hurting them. What a joke. Her personal cell # was on the site. I called it, it's REAL. So please call her and tell her what an idiot she is.
(917) 748-0227
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Acedia
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I just watched the interview. It's sad to think that the people in charge of passing laws can really be so disingenuous, and to think that she's only one of them...
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kelkin
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Good Job! Go get another one Jon!
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csmonut
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That what happens when you spout off about something you know nothing about:))
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Ms. McCaughey is an agent provocateur. Off with her head I say!
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nkeg87
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Why people still agree to do interviews with Jon is beyond me. Good media exposure? These days sitting down with Colbert and Stewart is really like playing with fire because if you have your stuff straight or they rip you a new one. And they don't very nice. But its good. I think this is what should be happening on hardball, Glenn Beck and all those other shows. Well researched, well thought out arguments with accurate facts. One can only dream...
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nkeg87:
but nkeg87, 2 well researched people having an intelligent, and proper conversations in which points are explained and a conclusion is found doesn't grab viewers. And how is O Reily suppose to look like the big man on campus without shouting and interrupting his guest?
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nkeg87:
In contrast, Jon Stewart does not get viewers because he yells and screams. I dont even know if he gets viewers because he's right but seems because he's funny. I guess since O'Reilly isnt funny he has to yell. But if he yelled AND produced a sound argument, I might be inclined to listen. Although, Im just put off by the yelling.
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nkeg87:
Because he would never interview someone if they had the ability to prove him wrong.
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So she WAS a corporate crony speaking with her Corporate 1st amendment rights, spreading lies and disinformation after all, not a disinterested states-person, altruistically looking out for the common good.
She will (not) be missed.
She WILL however be replaced. These medical corporations have an assembly line filled with people like her, willing to do or say anything for a quick dime.
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another stepford wife exposed. blonde palin. too late to try to hide your ignorance
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She must believe that the "ends justify the means," because she is lieing like a rug.
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yay for a stupid person doing something smart!
kudos betsy.=P
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MissMeliss:
Doing something smart? Doing something sociopathic is more like it. Sociopaths are supurb liars.
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To Hunnter.
Wait, you don't think Jon calmly explaining the proper interpretation of the bill, is rational. But you think secret mass murder or that there will be secret mass murder, is?Way to go conspiracy nutjob.
BTW you can't reason with someone like Betsy, they always just think you are wrong no matter what. For exampla just watch Bill O'Rielly.
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amusedviews:
Sorry, but i couldn't make a single bit of sense out of that...
edit:
You read my reply wrong. I wasn't speaking anything about Jon at all, actually.
Also, "secret" mass murder isn't a conspiracy, there is already several known mass killings that took place in secret which were eventually found out.
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Would you rather get your news from a failed top 40 dj (beck) or a local sports reporter (palin) or maybe a someone from a tabloid celebrity show (o'reilly) or even better a pompous ass who questions everyone elses intellect although he didn't even get a college degree (hannity)... They are all actors! There is no difference!
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4and3and2and1:
true true, so true! i wonder if the people who listen to these guys know that they have zero experience in news, politics or journalism.
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4and3and2and1:
OH REALLY!!!! HA! These so called clowns understand
the FRAUD that is Obama & "Healthcare REform very
well!!!! DO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU DAILY 4and3......HELL NO! ***********CLOWN!!!!! - 3 years ago
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4and3and2and1:
@ shotgunner
DO you use the VA? I didn't think so. Thank you for not using tax payer money to subsidize your health care.
How is the private health insurance treating you? With all those pre-exiting ailments from Vietnam I bet your premium is pretty high.
Thanks again.
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4and3and2and1:
The three "failures" you allude to in your spout of specious bullshit are I'm sure much more sucsseful
& listened to more"ailures" than you will ever be.
"Failures" my ass, All have ratings through the roof
& are very respected, That is nothing but fact!!!!
Like it or not!!!!!! - 3 years ago
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Stewart is a comedian, not a newsperson. It speaks volumes about us when Americans get their "news" from this comic.
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samthesixth:
It speaks more about the state of our media than anything else. Like in his Crossfire session.
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samthesixth:
okay samthesixth...it speaks volumes? tell us then, what does it say?
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samthesixth:
Thank God we are getting it somewhere. Cable news programs like Fox are less trustworthy than the news we get from comedy central!
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samthesixth:
Jon Stewart might be a comic. However he is obviously very intellejent comic. he has an uncanny talent to see through the bullshit of some of his guests, and make them look like the idiots that they are! Go get another one Jon!
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samthesixth:
Haha kelkin's "intellijence" is probably lacking a bit. rofl.
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samthesixth:
Glenn Beck is a T.V. and radio news talk show host Who spreads fear and known lies to the public. It speaks volumes about us when Americans get their "news" from this joke of a Talk show host on Fox "News."
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well i don't know what to think.
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Wow... I don't even know what to say. I didn't see resignation coming, that's for sure.
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ahhh, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help us God!!!! Liar got caught with her pants down!!!
Hallelujah!!!! - 3 years ago
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THIS IS BRILLIANT! GO JOHN GO!@!!
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John Stewart has been in rare form this week with his coverage of the health care debacle. I commend him for his expert genius in navigating and exposing the follies of this circus.
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Progress is good . Jon did good enough .
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iamaman:
WTF?!
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Score another one for rational thinking.
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lifestudentno83:
Rational? No.
Ethics? Yes.To demonstrate the why, simple example follows
Is it rational to go to war to defend your country? Very yes
Is it ethical, in any way? Hell no.
These people COULD be reasoned with
These people COULD throw down their weapons and declare peace.Yes, i do agree (after a quick glance over what the hell Death Panel was) that it was a little harsh the way it was put and how it was all set out, but with the position they are in (a dying economy), i can certainly see their reasoning behind it.
In fact, if anyone has watched Torchwood: Children of Earth and remember the scene where they were deciding on how to choose the human children to be given away*, you would see this entire "mess" in entirely new light.
If you think this is bad, just wait until a few decades later as our situation worsens.
WW2 is childs play to what is going to come, and i don't mean nuclear war either, i mean a secret war with people being stealth-killed in large numbers for the sake of the human race.
It has already happened before, and still happens today in small numbers.*spoilers ahead
They decided to choose the lower end of the schools, the ones who are clogging up the system and using massive resources yet still under-performing. - 3 years ago
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lifestudentno83:
Hunnter, are you high?
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lifestudentno83:
I think you're projecting a lot of assumptions there, hunnter.
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lifestudentno83:
Nope, i prefer to have a clear mind.
I was simply commenting on both sides and the reasoning behind it (and the future), you know, the whole process behind government?
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lifestudentno83:
One thing he has yet to acquire.
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lifestudentno83:
Wrong, Jammer.
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lifestudentno83:
I know, that's why I said that. Glad you could agree you are.
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Man she got verbally spanked!
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John Stewart for Nobel Peace Prize?? One could only hope.
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hayden_augustus:
hero, sure... nobel winner? give it a couple more decades
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hayden_augustus:
No.
This kind of work shouldn't be given award. He's not a reliable source. Unless people are willing to state he is...then he's a news source and that will totally go against what he said his show is.
conundrum.
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hayden_augustus:
ok... party pooper
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Excellent news. John Stewart should be most proud.
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AndreaKnoll:
Jon Stewart
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AndreaKnoll:
Most proud he IS a news source as all these Current references prove.
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