Norway to divest from Israeli Firm involved in West Bank wall

I said Mark Twain because somebody mentioned him. And he was a real person he wrote fiction and beautifuly.

twain and the bible
twain fiction soly for the purpose of entertainment
bible fiction for the purpose of creating a guide to morality and civility
so they arent linked that way
well the bible is about 5k yrs old and twains work is a century or so old so its not cronological
wtf are you talking about?

the number of olive trees available versus the number of olive trees destroyed by settlers is like saying if i highjack a pepsi delivery vehicle pepsi will go bankrupt for my action prevented them from surviving economicaly.
how is it that israel has survived and developed despite having thier markets and schools bombed wich by any standard is more damaging then uprooted foliage.
the gazans complain to israel about not having enough electricity but make zero effort or attemps at creating any kind of infrastructure to put a grid upon.

c'mon ma, don't be slow, it is the foundation of who we are...history's relevance is ingrained in us all, it shapes and forms our very core of moral realities...don'tchaknow?

akl did you not see where I said ancient history ANCIENT like the Mark Twain and the Bible.

If I were renting a house I wouldn't put in flowers I would keep it clean but other than that. Or if I thought my house was going to be taken by the bank then F IT! I would do shit except wait for the sherriff to come evict me, but believe me I would put up a fight.

Why is it that somebody ALWAYS talks about ancient history. They used to feed Christians to the lions but you don't hear the Christians talking about it. GEEZ!

This article was written 40 years ago!!! Some things never change.

ISRAEL'S PECULIAR POSITION
by Eric Hoffer* (LA Times 5/26/68)

The Jews are a peculiar people: things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews. Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it, Poland and Czechoslovakia did it. Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchman.
Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese and no one says a word about refugees. But in the case of Israel, the displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees. Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single one.
Arnold Toynbee calls the displacement of the Arabs an atrocity greater than any committed by the Nazis. Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms. But when Israel is victorious, it must sue for peace.
Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world. Other nations, when they are defeated, survive and recover but should Israel be defeated it would be destroyed. Had Nasser triumphed last June [1967], he would have wiped Israel off the map, and no one would have lifted a finger to save the Jews.
No commitment to the Jews by any government, including our own, is worth the paper it is written on. There is a cry of outrage all over the world when people die in Vietnam or when two Blacks are executed in Rhodesia. But, when Hitler slaughtered Jews no one remonstrated with him.
The Swedes, who are ready to break off diplomatic relations with America because of what we do in Vietnam, did not let out a peep when Hitler was slaughtering Jews. They sent Hitler choice iron ore, and ball bearings, and serviced his troop trains to Norway.
The Jews are alone in the world. If Israel survives, it will be solely because of Jewish efforts and Jewish resources. Yet at this moment, Israel is our only reliable and unconditional ally. We can rely more on Israel than Israel can rely on us. And one has only to imagine what would have happened last summer [1967] had the Arabs their Russian backers won the war, to realize how vital the survival of Israel is to America and the West in general.
I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us all.

*A non-Jewish American social philosopher, 1902 – 1983. Hew wrote nine books and won the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

The San Remo 1920 international conference granted sovereignty over THE WHOLE palestinian mandate to the Jewish People.
The decisions of this seminal conference are still binding and valid under international law!
Britain unfairly gave eastern Palestine to emir Abdullah as a compensation for losing Hejaz to Ibn Seoud.
The remaining land is legally Israel's, from the Med to the Dead Sea
In fact the Jews are entitled to the whole mandate until the Moab mountain range.
The rest is humbug, dissembling, bigotry and bottomless stupidity.

Winston Churchill on Islam

''How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.''

-- Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).

Nothing's changed since then.

Mark Twain's visit to Lebanon, Syria, and the Holy Land in 1867 was published in "The Innocents Abroad", where he described Palestine as follows:

"..... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country." (The Innocents Abroad, p. 361-362).

Nothing's changed since then ......except where the Israeli Jews live.

They are not cultivating the land because they are slothful and in the grip of abject bitterness and dereliction. They do not use the billions in aid money to build their own communities and irrigate the land but to amass weapons to kill Jews. Their own elite siphon off large amounts to build luxury villas scattered all over the so-called West Bank. They don't give a shit for olive trees.....their priority and obsession is to hate Jews and fantasise about the end of Israel instead of getting on with their lives in Jordan where they legally belong. The so-called palestinians are an invented people and are living parasitically off foreign and Israeli aid and the only reason they maintain their credibility is because of dumbass dhimmis and antisemites in the West who who also practise victimology and pretend they feel sorry for them bullshitting about olive trees, but in reality loathe the Jews and just use the local Arabs to justify their hatred.

WoW! if that is ment for me I really do thank you!

I'm sorry. i misunderstood. Excuse me.
I made a mistake.

I was talking about the one that posted why aren't they cultivating the land that they do have. And to the olive trees I was refering to the ship of supplies that were pirated off of GAZA not Israel GAZA.

Awww! Their olive trees are taken.
Taken heads, and taken arms, and taken buses, and supermarkets, and restaurants, don't really count, because those are filled with the murdered people the poor lovely palestinians killed.
Those jews can get along without a few thousand more Apartheid Zionist people, but how will the sweet, innocent, non violent, pacifist palestinian people live without those taken olive trees? Oh how???
Doesn't anyone care about those dear trees? Oh the olive trees. Oh!

The reason the Palestinians have done anything with the land is because everytime somebody brings something to them ie olive trees they are taken away. so I don't blame them for not doing anything to the land that is being taken away from them.

Does willful innocence equal willful ignorance? It certainly appears so!

"Well as you can see he practises wilful ignorance and is utterly unaware of the fact that the Arabs occupied Judea and Samaria when they attacked Israel in 1948, just after they were given the whole of Transjordan by the British."

"So his comment is gratuitous and illogical and designed to offend and provoke."

How do you know how I think?

"It also violates the terms and conditions on here to call someone a racist but his comment is still there."

I did not call you a racist. I said your comment was racist. A lot of your comments sound racist to me.

To flag (V):
1. To gratuitously highlight another member's comment as unacceptable because of an inability to respond with anything worthy or substantial.

2. To be spiteful and petty in a devious and underhand manner due to a deep rooted sense of inadequacy.

3. To snitch or tell on another human being as a result of arrested development, causing the perpetrator to compulsivly repeat infantile behaviour patterns rooted in rage and frustration. Characteristic of time servers, yes men and ass lickers throughout history.

4. To compensate for one's own personal failings and limitations by sucking up to the powers that be in order to eliminate anyone who presents a threat to the status quo no matter how abhorrent,or who exposes those same limitations.

Illegally occupied by Arabs who should be in Jordan? Sounds racist to me. Flagged.

mof4bratts says its people like you who make me not like the israeli govt. really?
you admit that you feelings about the israeli govt arent based on thier actions but others that you associate with them.
you freely admit to accepting guilt by association. thats usually seen as a prejudicial flaw in the human condition but kudos to you for admiting your bias.
i dont like australia cuz of russel crow not really but its example of your thought process

Are there any famous stores from Norway? Anybody know?

The stench of Norway's moral decay and rottenness spreads across the world and it makes me retch. It's a truly disgusting and degenerate place. I am now going to boycott all things Norwegian.

Here is a list of murders done ONLY by Muslims against people of various religions ONLY IN THE PAST ONE WEEK.
2009.09.04 Thailand Pattani A man and his 15-year-old son are slaughtered by Mujahid gunmen.
2009.09.04 Thailand Yala A policeman is burned alive in his car by Jihadis outside a restaurant.
2009.09.03 Thailand Pattani Twenty-seven people are injured, and an elderly man killed, when Muslims toss a bomb into a restaurant packed with Buddhists.
2009.09.03 Iraq Mussayab Sunnis bombers take down four Shiites, preparing to break Ramadan fast outside a mosque.
2009.09.02 Afghanistan Kabul A Shahid blows himself up outside a mosque, taking twenty-three Afghans with him.
2009.09.02 Iraq Mosul A 19-year-old girl in her home is among two people executed by Jihadis.
2009.09.02 India Rajouri Two local cops are killed in a brutal Mujahideen ambush.
2009.09.02 Thailand Pattani Four men are shot to death in separate Muslim terror attacks. (A fifth is killed in Yala)
2009.09.02 Thailand Narathiwat A man in a tea shop is among two people murdered by Muslim militants
2009.09.02 Pakistan Bannu Two small girls, ages 8 and 13, die from shrapnel injuries when Islamists toss a grenade into their home.
2009.09.02 Thailand Narathiwat Terrorists gun down a man and injure his wife.
2009.09.02 Thailand Pattani Muslim gunmen murder a man and his 13-year-old son.
2009.09.02 Afghanistan Jowzjan Taliban bombers kill one civilian by planting a remote-controlled bomb on a bicycle.
2009.09.02 Iraq Tal Afar A married couple is brutally gunned down by Islamic terrorists.
2009.09.02 Pakistan Hub Three people are shot dead in a targeted sectarian attack.
2009.09.01 Somalia Mogadishu Two civilians die from gunshot injuries suffered during an attack by Islamic militants.
2009.09.01 Afghanistan Zabul An Afghan civilian is taken down by a roadside bomb.
2009.09.01 Ingushetia Dattykh Islamic militants murder three local police with a roadside bomb.
2009.09.01 Afghanistan Border Video surfaces of the Taliban strapping explosives to a man accused of spying, then detonating him.
2009.09.01 Pakistan Mohmand A tribal elder is murdered outside his home by Mujahid gunmen.
2009.09.01 India Poonch Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorists shoot an Indian soldier to death during an infiltration attempt from Pakistan.
2009.09.01 Iraq Mosul The head of a local charity is among three people gunned down by Sunni militants.
2009.08.31 India Srinagar Jamiat-Ul-Mujahideen terrorists gun down two guards outside a bank.
2009.08.31 Iraq Khanaqin Jihadi bombers kill one civilian and leave a dozen more with injuries.
2009.08.30 Iraq Mosul A woman is shot to death by Mujahideen.
2009.08.30 Pakistan Swat Two political activists and a student are murdered by suspected hardliners.
2009.08.30 Iraq Baghdad Separate bombings, one a Shahid, leave two civilians dead.
2009.08.30 Pakistan Mingora Sixteen local cops are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.08.29 Algeria Algiers Five people are killed in two terrorist attacks by armed fundamentalists.
2009.08.29 Afghanistan Zabul A Fedayeen bomber blows himself up in front of a bazaar, killing two civilian bystanders.
2009.08.29 Yemen Sawad Shiite rebels kill nine local tribesmen in a mortar attack.
2009.08.29 Iraq Hamad A Fedayeen truck bomber detonates near a police station, killing at least a dozen innocents.
2009.08.29 Iraq Mosul A young girl is gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2009.08.29 Pakistan Bannu Terrorists ram a police vehicle, then open up with automatic weapons, killing two officers.
2009.08.29 Iraq Mosul Six Iraqis at a market are blown to bits by Jihadi bombers.
2009.08.28 Thailand Pattani Islamists hurl a grenade at a group of villagers playing an outdoor game, killing a 62-year-old.

It's people like you that have made not like the goverment of Israel. So all Arabs are Jew haters so I guess All Jews are Arab haters,you are so wrong I know many Jews that are against what Israel is doing. And more and more people in this whole world are not liking what is going on sooner or later they are going to be alone.Very alone.

"Palestinians" have no ethics? You are categorically stating that not one single Palestinian, out of millions, has ANY ethics.

You have become the very extremism to you pretend to deplore, Al...

In essence Jew hating Hamas Palestinians have a greater influence within Norway that is greater than Israel?
How can that be a matter of differentiating for preferable ethics, when Palestinians have none?

I am soooo proud I am a citizen of Norway. No money for terror.

is the wall a terrible thing u bet your ass it is but sadly the palastinians have made it a necesity. is its construction unethical sure is, but its born of an unethical framework.
a framework of society that includes rocket launches on civilians, suicide bombings in civilian market places, bulldozer highjackings mowing down civilians. in this environment what choice does a nation have to live up to its responsability to its civilian populous?
does it make the walls construction right no, but necessary

I've just purchased a very nice flat in a West bank settlement......or I should say, in Judea and Samaria. It was cheap and not far from Jerusalem. A great investment and for a good cause. And I'm not even Jewish. And I feel safe with my Uzi under my bed.