Obama US flag desecration and this is no photoshop!

The Cult of Personality is clearly in play here given the failure of the MSM to do it's job, the Nobel Peace Prize Committee's political choice (admit it, his credentials in this area are far less than some of the other nominees and he is the only nominee to currently be overseeing TWO wars; wars are normally defined as the opposite of peace), the slandering of political opposition as racist, etc, our foppish behavior toward the British, our unwillingness to deal with Iran or North Korea. It goes on. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to change anyone's mind. Just pointing out where the simulacra end.

Yes, and even as Barack Obama demonstrates he is a fraud, phony and hypocrite par excellence — who also happens to be in way over his head — the American people still believe in him.

I doubted he was the Messiah, but now I’m not sure. When a president can be the greatest wealth destroyer in history and still maintain high approval ratings, maybe he does have supernatural powers. What’s more he is god-like. It is said God so loved the poor that he made many of them; Mr. Obama is almost outdoing God by turning so many into poor people.

Will Durst, a comedian, put it perfectly when he said, “Voters want a fraud they can believe in.”

“We must take care of the biggest threat to America.”

Question: “The economy?”

Answer: “No.”

Question: ”The banking crisis?”

Answer: “No.”

Question: “Terrorism?”

Answer: “No.”

Question: “Iranian nukes?”

Answer: “No.”

Question: “Then what?”

Answer: “Rush Limbaugh.”

The new politics of Mr. Obama is even pettier, lower and dirtier than the old politics.

His supporters like to bill Obama as the smartest man on the planet. But if he is so smart why is he unable to speak without the help of a teleprompter? He must have to go to bed with it.

There are even reports that the teleprompter is used to feed him facts and talking points to help him answer questions. There’s also a report the White House is working on a computer unit on the podium to feed him material during press conferences and other question-and-answer formats.

I’m afraid like the great Oz, the great Mr. Hobama will soon be discovered to be the fraud that he is. The golden tongue orator can’t move his golden tongue without the aid of a script and a teleprompter.

There have been many false Messiahs in history, but isn’t this going a little too far?

All of these references to a "cult" around President Obama strike the people I know who supported his campaign and are generally supportive of the job he has done thus far as surreal. Our view is that the only conceivable way Bush was elected to a second term was blind, utterly unreasoning and irrational devotion.

If the complaint is that Obama has not done ENOUGH to warrant the Nobel Prize for Peace, then by that same yardstick, Bush's "accomplishments" would have required the digging of a very deep hole and the use of negative numbers in the measurement.

My sense is that most of these folks asserting the existince of an Obama cult are either too young to remember (or have weathered the opposite situation so long they have forgotten) that it is possible to have a President who, on balance, can be viewed in a positive and occasionally even enthusiastic light.

Between the darkness of the Bush, Jr, years, the Lewinsky scandal, the malaise of Bush, Sr, Iran Contra, the Hostage crisis and the long national nightmare of Watergate and its dark, depressing aftermath, we have simply had very, very little to cheer about connected to the White House for a very long time.

But I am ancient enough to remember periods of enthusiasm. Some things are known about Kennedy today that dulls some of his luster, but at the time of his presidency, he fostered great enthusiasm and great pride in being an American and somehow sharing in the American Experiment.

Sadly, the Vietnam War began to dim those feelings at the end of his Administration and made even cast a shadow across the wondrous accomplishments of the Johnson Adminstration in areas like Civil Rights (whatever else you may believe, America is a much finer place as a result of the latter, which greatly reduced the ugliness of open racism that existed in many parts of this country when I was growing up -- heck, I remember white people actually having to STRUGGLE to remember not to refer to African Americans using that awful and demeaning "n" word...becuase for many, that was the ONLY way they referred to people of that racial derivation).

Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton captured some of that enthusiasm for brief periods before both became mired in the aftereffects of their own poor judgement.

For us, Obama represents a return of competence and a return of hope that we can live in an America in which we don't have to read about criminal conduct in connection with the Office of the President every day as we have for so long.

But we are not under any illusions that he is a god or even an infallible human. He has already made decisions with which most of us disagree or made an appointment or two that we have judged unwise. He has already demonstrated imperfection. That STILL puts him a thousand miles ahead of where Bush was at this point in his presidency and a million miles ahead of where Bush was at the END of his presidency.

But by all means continue to do your little Cult of Obama Dance of Paranoia thing...we all just shake our heads and laugh at you anyway. He is just a guy doing a good job, and we are expressing our appreciation. We don't worship him -- in no small part because he is not worthy of our worship (and he said said himself on several occasions that he does not WANT that kind of blind devotion). It is enough to know that the criminals have been chased back to Houston and Wyoming and that we have a fundamentally decent and competent occupant in the White House again.

I think there's a grain of truth in what bielski is saying. Quite a few pro-Obama people have a cult-like devotion for him. It's really weird. He isn't a god, you know.

Of course, I don't get the pathological hatred some Republicans have for him, either.

As far as i can tell, that is not, never was nor will it be a US flag. It has no stars. Nice try, though.

well...I wouldn't want any President on it...but I do believe its something that represents the country and not the actual thing that the soldiers overseas are said to be protecting.

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What does the flag represent? The USA of today that is the world cop and the biggest prisoner holder in the world, or the originally intended free country that is long gone? Bring us your poor huddled masses then, build a barbed wire fence now. Capitalism worked before it was thrashed by fake money, insurance, bankers. Prohibition and unfair trade lobbyists etc. Let the mexicans in, let us hire them for $3 an hour and everyone would be happy. Set us free to buy our own medicines etc. I am smart enough to use an antibiotic correctly, why do I have to pay off a peer to write me a note (prescription) Where did America go? I really think this nation is desecrating the flag just for being the way it is. It doesn't deserve to fly a symbol of freedom over this police / religious / prison state.

Heh, heh. Funny. "It's just a flag."

OK. I hope to see the same response if that flag happens to be a southern "stars and bars" flag, or a swastika flag or some other "just a flag".

5 seconds into looking at this person's website told me everything. Seeing Palin and Beck in the same page somehow being honored is like 10 times worse than the poison she is trying to spread on this subject. The nutties waste no time in linking this flag with Obama as if he called this dude and asked him to plant his face on the flag. Bunch of effing haters that call themselves "patriots" while they stood and watched golden boy bush TRULY desecrate the constitution and gave his administration do whatever the fuck they wanted...but o well lets pay attention to this insignificant flag situation.

These guys are running out of things to bitch about..

What a shame. And I feel so helpless. To use the phrase, It's just a flag....Please tell me that not one person who said or felt that way served in the military. Than I could understand , maybe, why they would say, it's just a flag. Take a look at Arlington. Stand there and look out at all the flags in a row and try and look me in the eye and say, hey, they're just little flags.
This attitude, disrepect for those who have lost family under the cause of fighting under that flag will one day cause the same blood shed on this soil as did when we once had two flags. Men, women AND children died fighting for both.
To the people who have fought for or lost family fighting for this flag, I apologize.

Ok here's one to ponder... What about those fireworks displays that form an american flag? The flag doesn't even exist unless it's on fire and burning... In that case does putting out a flag constitute desecration?

Basically,..........DON'T BURN, DEFACE, OR OTHERWISE FRACK WITH YOUR OWN DAMN FLAG!!!
--------unless--------- YOU would be willing to be fracked with because the point YOU are making is THAT IMPORTANT,...be it political, artistic,.......what ever.
---Most everything we use to even GRUNT at each other is "SYMBOLIC" in nature.--- OH, thanx, cztheday, for being a voice, and a witness, and a foil for shoddy thought!

Bielski,

No, it is NOT illegal to burn or otherwise deface an American flag. The section you cite is an ADVISORY rule...hence the word "should." There is no criminal penalty for engaging in any of the conduct you mention. The only exception is that within the District of Columbia (and ONLY within the District), the desecration of the flag is punishable as a misdemeanor (the same penalties apply as for jaywalking, for example). But it is not a criminal offense outside the district.

Congress has considered making flag burning a federal crime on several occasions but has never been mustered enough votes to pass such a law. In large part, this is because the Courts have signalled quite strongly that such a law would be found to be an unconstitutional deprivation of freedom of expression.

So no, even if this had been a real flag, burning or otherwise defacing or destroying it would not be a criminal act -- except, as noted above, within the District of Columbia, and even then the law is highly unlikely to be enforced and the penalty is unlikely to be applied because of the reluctance to test the law's constitutionality.

In short...you are wrong.

If you can't respect the flag how can you say you respect the country?

joke
http://www.davesflags.com/FLAGS/11-26/BLUNT.jpg

Maybe they should just do like everyone else that doesn't want their logo defaced.... patent it.

Okay, checked out the applicable U.S. code regarding the flag,and had this been a "real" flag to begin with, than the statutes of said code would be applicable. But it is not, nor has ever been a U.S. flag. Folks, it falls under the same heading as the bathing suits/shirts/pants and other items, even though it mimics the flag design, it is nothing more than a novelty ... granted, one done in very poor taste, but a novelty none the less. That is what any attorney worth their salt would argue in court (and sadly, probably win).

Now, having said this, what really bothers me about it, is that someone or somebodies find this "flag" to be appropriate. That they are comfortable enough in having the image of this usurper to the office of the President emblazoned on a representation of the national flag, creating something which is disgusting on any number of levels.

Still, there are issues which are far more pressing, than this. This stupidity, while disgusting, (physically) hurts no one. But things like our foreign policy being in a shambles (back stabbing Israel, unclear direction in Afghanistan, support for Islamists world wide - some cases at a tacit level- and others more overt, failure to address the spread of nuclear technology and capabilities to various rogue states and other bad actors ... the list goes ever on), our domestic policies being either torn apart, or already in shambles, or the on going direct attacks to our Constitution. All these are IMHO of far greater importance. By fighting and defeating those who are bringing all the above to pass, as a by product, you will find the flag issues taken care of as well.

Yes, it IS against the US Flag Code to deface the US Flag. Here is the code citing prepared for members and committees of congress by the Federal Research Service. Page CRS-7 of the "CRS Report for Congress. The United States Flag: Federal Law Relating to Display and Associated Questions." April 14, 2008.

The Flag Code
Title 4 United States Code:
§ 8. Respect for Flag
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

I believe the flag in this picture is in violation.

Denial Kills, remember that kool-aid sippers...

Nothing is sacred to the leftturds, not even the american flag. these traitors have even betrayed their children and their future to support the antichrist.

Yes, it's stupid and messed-up, but so are flag desecration laws.

Look at the language. 'Repulsed', 'crime against humanity', 'messiah', 'socialist', etc. This post reads like a conservative talking points memo, with the typical outlandish commentary based on nothing. As I always say in post like this, if you want to talk policy, let's do that. As is the case with posts like this, reason doesn't seem to be part of the equation when talking about the president.

They are simply expressing freedom of speech, people can do whatever they want to the flag. I do think that it is quite ridiculous that people can put a politician on a pedestal like this.... i mean no matter what he is still a politician

Hi there! I'm an Eagle Scout, and have been trained fully in proper flag ettiquite.

Something funny you all should know: there is no official United States Flag. It's just something we've all decided on by consensus.

So it's impossible to desecrate, because there is no official flag.

A US flag with Obama's face in the field is just as much the official flag of the USA as a US flag with the stars and stripes we're all familiar with.

Or the ring of 13 stars.

There is no document that codifies the official US flag. We just all happen to agree on it by consensus, without anybody in the government making it the law.

And THAT, my friends, is the true spirit of America.

The flag is astroturf, manufactured by right wing extremists to get right wing extremists all hot and bothered.

Conservatives are so gullible.

so what? Bush defaced flags personally by autographing them in 2003 which comes with $100 fine in DC

a lack of sense. and freedom of speech rears its ugly head again

I bet a republican designed the flag. If a dem did it Obama would look much happier.

They were hoping to sell this, and then get foxnews fired up about it.

''How can you blame this on Obama...?''

All the way. He has actively and enthusiastically generated the personality CULT around him, like all demagogues, frauds and tyrants. The issue here is the very existence of the Obama CULT and the pathological denial of this amongst his sheeple supporters.