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Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists For Global Warming Fraud!

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Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists For Global Warming Fraud!

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  • larrysnotes
  • Monkey_Films
  • wayseeker
  • Gnuly_Thompkins
  • wayseeker
  • ozoneocean
  • nightmonkey
  • annazoe
  • div
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      div  
    • Oh, well, now, this convinces me that global warming is a fraud! After all, if a bunch of random scientists, hardly a fraction of which actually study climate or have PhD's are suing Al Gore...! huh. Well, maybe not.

      I did not learn about global warming from Al Gore. I learned about it in or around Grade 1. If you learned about global warming from Al Gore, sorry you're so late to the game. Do a little more research.

      Global warming won't disappear if Al Gore is sued to the ends of the universe. It will still be here. Surprised? Do a little more research.

      Al Gore isn't the spokesperson for global warming anyway. Suing him will not stop scientists from doing more research on global warming.

      Please visit a local university and listen to talks by ACTUAL scientists about global warming.

      PLEASE do a little more research.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • jonathancurrent
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    • There's no lawsuit and this "coalition" the John Coleman speaks of is really a reference to a fake petition that was debunked 10 years ago by Science journal. The fact Fox News allows people like this on their airwaves with such blatant misinformation that can so easily be disproven should be an embarrassment to them and anyone who believes it.

      Eventually the global warming skeptics that realize the sources from which they draw their conclusions from are so faulty in comparison to the opposition's they must resort to straw man arguments ("you are just an al gore worshipper") just to survive, but at that point they remove themselves entirely from the relevancy of the discussion.

      * my views don't reflect that of Current TV or Current.com but I'm still allowed to have them :)

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • @everybody who thinks that there is a real lawsuit. THERE IS NOT A REAL LAWSUIT.

      Some of the people on here never read the stories or watch the videos, they merely talk out their sphincters.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Can money and profits survive Free Energy machines (cars, power)? Yes it can! but not the same percentages as now. There would need to be a two-direction shift. Profits would be lowered is true but people's expenses for living would also be lowered. I think this lowering of numbers instills and inspires great fear in industrialists who only know increasing numbers.

      Let's say people had fuelless cars and electricity from wind & sun. On the surface that looks like a total wipeout of all oil-related jobs, coal mining, nuclear plants, appearing to be a devastating reduction in incomes and tax monies reaching the Federal coffers. And then taking it a bit further as in the case of my own car engine design... which should run w/out repairs or much maintenance about 75-125 YEARS before needing replacement (if then) well, there goes all your auto mechanics jobs right?

      That's downright scary! or is it? Well, if people weren't slaving 40-70 hours a week and more to pay for all the engine breakdown planned obsolescence and energy costs including their homes then hhmmm, how much would it hurt to lose your job? In today's world and standards losing your job and being unemployed is a massive burden but if you had all that energy under the hood and never stopping at a fuel pump again.... and your lights & heating/cooling was piping in all day long year in year out and no cost associated with it, then you could work 15-20-25 hours a week combined you and the Mrs and be living quite well.

      What about the US Government though? Reductions like these sound like a scenario from the Devil himself right? Yep, unless you start adding up and deducting the cost of EPA cleanups that would no longer be needed, and all the other gov't agencies that hound the population to make sure we stay in compliance with air pollution standards.

      Once you start deducting the costs of oil tanker ruptures aground and spills it begins to become right clear that free energy is quite survivable and would in fact introduce a much improved across-the-board standard of living, and Planet Dirt would transform back into rich loamy healthy soil => Planet Earth. Ocean life would rebound with a ferociously fast increase of restored seafood catches.

      However, another Big Fear comes from the fact that people would slow down, gear down into a less rushed state and enjoy their children as they grow up instead of shipped into other people's hands to enjoy (and program, and manipulate). In such a new situation it is FEARED that people would all turn into UNCLE TOMs fishing the day away on the Mississippi River bank.

      Would that happen? Well yes, as a matter of fact it would, but only a relative few would do so to the extreme. Most people would bore quickly and start reading more, learning new skills, studying into deep matters like Physics and Astronomy. I've been on full disability since March 27 1989 from an awesome and painful accident that crushed parts of me on the outside and also beat the stuffings out of every organ inside.

      When I was able to I did go fishing but I also began inventing new ways of spending my days writing on the new Internet bulletin boards and even inventing new energy source systems. I've worked harder in the last 20 years than at any time in my life but I haven't drawn a paycheck is all. Had I had free car fuel and free electricity my disability check that now doesn't look so large WHEW I would've been socking money away and drawing interest.

      Money is a fluid that comes and goes Time is a fluid that only goes.
      They need to switch places on the priority list. It's time for a paradigm shift.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
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      bethopea  
    • Gravity_Man:

      By George I think he's got it!
      and this is much more than a lesson in phonetics.

      how now - my car could in effect outlast my body?
      making mods to the body to outlast the car?

      The Big Fear - it is funnny - people go on vacations from their jobs to 'slow down' it is a very desirable commodity, yet to put it into every day practice would require some re-programming.

      Where I live, the pace is much slower AND productivity IS lost.
      The notion of efficiency with less work seems taboo. Suppose the work would be more mental than time consuming...yes, what WOULD people do if they had free time (and energy)!?

      Where does it stop - free energy => free food, free trade, free time?
      Evoked is not only a fear of slowing down, but fear of a domino effect => total CHANGE. And this is what is really scary.

      And If productivity is already lost (as it already is in the US - please, name one company that actually produces something unrelated to the service industry), then switching to zero pollutants seems like a no brainer...uuh, other than combating the agenda the gov'ts have planned.

      Life is FULL of irony - and it seems the law that just as soon as there is a break in the clouds, an earthquake strikes. If it is not one thing it is another...although thinking, had you been born back when the vikings were about, those crushed bones, well...it may be a bt of luck or there may be a greater plan - but the fact that your were actually born into the age of the computer could not have been more precise.

      Happy (early)Turkey Day - and keep those stuffings in the belly.
      genuine advice and know how seems hard to come by these days...especially through the Net as words can easliy be misinterpreted
      Fancy this saying:
      We are where we should be, doing what we should be doing...otherwise we'd be somewhere else, doing something else.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • Gravity_Man:

      ..
      ..
      Yep, right time & right place, but also being fully disabled (forced to deal with the Nothing). Stop-Start induces a type of impotence in people, always waiting for "the other shoe to drop" (screaming back-to-work horns of yesteryear), so they can't truly settle into a changed life. ** Most heart attacks happen on Mondays to people who do settle in over a weekend then upon return to work the adjustment back (stress) causes blood vessels to constrict.

      We really need to downshift into a stronger gear, what truckers call "granny gear" for pulling mountains with heavy loads. Life is our heavy load, the many responsibilities, so my advice is not How to Be Klem Kadiddlehopper (Red Skelton bum character).

      After figuring out many health insights and especially my yellow onion delight "Prospector's Health Tonic" (http://current.com/items/90879038_prospectors-health-tonic-tricks-they-didnt-hav...) even though I have a very stubborn weightloss issue at 57YO, at 270 pounds my resting heartbeat is 60. Recently I posted info to a blog in San Diego how to speed production of adult stem cells and do advanced organ repair => http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showpost.php?p=3847006&postcount=2375 .

      I have a new type of solar power system that cranks in gear fast reaching exponential spinning speed and by recycling the heated air holds its speed, producing a very powerful electrical generator output with just 1+ good hours of sunlight. hehehe It's much better than any solar panels because it also does not use the rare metals that are running out.

      We don't need to continue living a slave's existence.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
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      bethopea  
    • Gravity_Man:

      This machine I am on is now full of open browsers - thriving with information and lack there of.
      I now know what MRSA is and where to find Oxy-Nectar, have confusion about these gravity systems, and wonder if it is something the average joe can figure out, am in awe at the life of Gravity_Man and wonder what to do next...for now, I'll just go back to reading some news and listening to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki-y6YEsMRs

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      God's ways and thoughts are very high above our own. Sometimes He chooses the weak, the sick, the defective. In other words, a lifeless rock. There are ways to generate many times the power we need, for everybody (the other 50% of us). Ways to clean water for drinking without doing it the hard way. Ways to move power great distances very fast. What you observe now Bethopea is pitiful.

      Thanks for the great video too!

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • Gravity_Man:

      My first official gravity wheel page is => http://www.energeticforum.com/47920-post1.html where I showed a way to adapt NASA's "slingshot maneuver" around the Moon to spinning a wheel. Since that time (March) I've worked out many other designs and built about 4 so far. There are many other people all around the world I came to find out have been working real hard on them also.

      One inventor named Robert Kostoff has one built and running but it's 12 feet tall and weighs 9,000 pounds. The ones I've designed are a single home or apartment-size, for fitting in a closet or inside a wall even. His is a big brute that uses centrifugal force and shocks for using air pressure so it isn't a "true" gravity-only wheel.

      Mine are very aesthetic and encouraging to watch even when they don't quite continue spinning yet. My abilities as a model builder are a problem, not the designs. I lack a few tools and a proper place to work so it can stress me out working on them... so I've set them aside now that I figured out their secrets. The couple times I've wrestled with them the Lyme's bacteria has sort of lowered my ability to take stress.

      So what I did instead was I posted my last major solutions where I knew this fellow was watching for them. Let him fight with em. I shared most the ideas I had online with those other fellas, to help them some with their designs. I reckon altogether we must have at least 20 different designs, some using pendulums most of mine not, although I did solve a pendulum-using design a couple weeks or maybe 2 months ago now.

      Every one of em is like watching a spinning work of art. Very aesthetic, satisfying to the soul. The solar device I mentioned earlier is also like that. I'd love to see them all around, spinning in the afternoon sun. The systems I have don't just hammer out {ugh} {yuck} "power" they build ya up inside. Just knowing how to make them has carried me through some rough days.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
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      bethopea  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Cool beans! I do not understand how is would not wobble like an egg. Also there would be a noise factor? Though I am by no means a physicist, on occation I am technically inclined. This is an interesting concept indeed!

      To share an idea a friend presented to me a while back:
      Bicycle that uses energy from gravity (maybe springs?) how ever much force you exert it either stores or emits. Rather than pedals (cycling) it would be more like stepping or jumping, arms and legs would work together - a circular pogo stick perhaps. The idea was to create a clean and safe mode of transportation that would help people stay in shape (since not everyone wants to arrive sweaty to work, it would serve a dual purpose - as exercise and/or transport).
      Though flaws leak through - first: saftey (what is the top speed? how is the -ist protected) second:flattery (one would have to get past social constraints and not mind looking like a flailing traipse artist).
      The concept is not solid, so we are still in the rough stages. If it ever gets past that stage I will be happily surprised.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      It won't wobble; it's on an axle. It would be narrow, and have sides like blinders on horses. Your friend might not be real happy with you explaining her idea publicly... but since I don't quite understand it anyway you're safe this time.

      I only went through highschool so I'm not a physicist either. I just started writing. Kind of like Forrest Gump started running. I've outrun Gump, been running since 1989. Hmm, I also don't have a Jennie. She had to split and run off and make Princess Bride.

      The bike idea, what you might want to do is consider it a Fad type idea that when you made one you'd sell the heck out of it for a year or two then sales would stop. In a case like that you don't really need a patent. When you sell the first one be sure and make a sales receipt dated and signed. That seals you one year left to get a patent.

      If people all suddenly started falling in love with it and sales were going like HOTCAKES then you could decide to file a patent inside that first guaranteed year. But the way things are today someone will usually file and put all the $$$ responsibility on YOU to hire lawyers and make them pay you two your royalties. Since they know you don't have money to hire lawyers better than theirs they pretty much figure you'll fade away.

      Another aspect is that having US Patent protection doesn't protect your idea in other patent offices in other countries. To protect your idea around the world would require many patents. You're much better off to have a fad-level idea, turn some great money for 1-2 years than have to pay all those patents. The fellow who invented the "pop ratchet" had his taken by Sears Roebuck and Company, took him a million dollars and ten long years of court battles to get his rightful royalty money.

      Sears Roebuck's sales slid after that too. They lost in the long run, but other people still do it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • There is one Constant that invariably prevails => those with the fattest wallet wins. Al Gore, Richard Branscom and a few others have a very thick wallet. However, due to price gouging American gasoline consumers the oil companies gave themselves also an extremely fat wallet.

      There are two possible outcomes 1. a very prolonged battle or 2. The Gore ticket convinces the oil companies to switch sides and morph~transform themselves into the Good Guy, begin pouring their combined wallets into new green energy technologies.

      Which outcome will prevail?
      Which outcome will prevail?
      Which outcome will prevail?

      Up til recently the oil companies have been winning, very much by employing mass media brainwashing techniques using repetition of cable advertising playing on widespread ignorance about Energy. Then some whistleblowers blew the whistle on over-estimated world oil reserves. I rather expect the oil companies to alter their business model or face prosecution and prison time.

      Making big money from green technologies beats heck out of a poorly-heated jail cell... where you may or may not be allowed conjugal visits depending on how the judge feels on the day of sentencing. That prospect sucks rotten eggs.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Hey thanks! I was looking for that! And oh yes, I could see how actually helping developing nations would be troublesome to those who are selfish and have an aversion to those whose skin is darker then theirs. It's only ok to blow their countries up. Right?

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • The more you make it about just Al Gore the more you out your true motives. Roger Revelle was charting CO2 long before Al Gore ever mentioned it in his books. Matter of fact, it goes back to the 1800s when the corrolation between Co2 and temperature was noted. But keep going. You prove with every post what you are really all about, and it isn't about giving a damn about this Earth.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • JanforGore:

      Who would you blame if Christianity was considered a fake religion? Christ right?
      Who will you blame now that "Global Warming" aka "The end of the world" as been debunked as a FRAUD?

      Geez Jan..what correlation???are you still looking at the graphs reversed? CO2 FOLLOWS THE TEMPERATURE INCREASE. Not the other way around...as your "prophet" claims.

    • 2 years ago
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • JanforGore:

      You'll have to define "fake religion". Is Scientology a fake religion, is a fake religion one that pushes an agenda it knows can't scientifically be fact, or is it a religion that after centuries just says, "Gotcha!"?

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • JanforGore:

      Global warming or climate change has not been debunked, and your repeating it over and over again isn't going to change the facts. Our climate has changed and is changing. There is extremely compelling evidence. What you are confused about and the GOP/Conservative/Libertarian/NWO fanatics have successfully twisted, yet again; is a convoluted argument. Combining science, economics, and fear mongering with twisted facts.

      Cap N Trade is an economic scam, yes it could well be a product of the financial elite to steal more money and consolidate more power. Its an economic policy that already failed in Europe.

      Climate change is real. It is an observable fact that everyone everywhere can see with their own eyes and feel on their skin. It is perceived by their senses, unless they are habitually brain dead drones.

      The argument that is still raging is whether or not this was caused by humans. I think the jury is already in on the fact that we have altered our ecosystems to the point that we have caused extinctions of species and permanently changed water systems and have cut down more than 80% of the forests that were standing prior to the Westward Expansion of the European conquests of America. Entire rain forests have been decimated. Wild temperature fluctuations have resulted and drought has come to areas that formerly rarely ever experience long periods without precipitation.

      The other part of the convolution is the argument about CO2 and greenhouse gasses. But just because scientists criticize, test, and challenge one another doesn't indicate a conspiracy. True science uses this process to arrive at consensus and truth. But what is considered truth is subject to further refinements and revisions.

      If you can't see this, then you are demonstrating, by your unreasonable adherence to your talking points, to be a narrow minded or even close minded drone in a hive of like minded drones.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • JanforGore:

      @frimer, you said that if you discovered that Christianity is a fake religion you would blame Christ? Well if Christianity was fake, that logic is completely irrational, because there would be no Christ, how could you blame something that doesn't exist?

      Al Gore does exist and he is not a prophet or messiah who leads a huge congregation of worshipers. Dude what planet are you from?

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • (continued)

      Page 122, Item 17 is quite troubling.

      15. [Developed country Parties [shall][should] provide support to developing country Parties, particularly those specified in Articles 4.8 and 4.9 of the Convention, in order to allow developing country Parties to address issues related to social and environmental development, economic diversification, risk assessment, modelling and insurance to prevent the adverse effects of the spillover effects.] Alternative to paragraph 15:
      [In the implementation of paragraphs 11 (c)11 and 11 (d)12 above (159.1 and 159.2 in FCCC/AWGLCA/2009/INF.1) , through the provision of financial resources, including for access, development and transfer of technology, at agreed full incremental costs in accordance with Article 4.3 of the Convention;
      Recognizing that there are ways and means to reduce or avoid such impacts through careful and informed selection of policies and measures, to evaluate the effectiveness of existing tools, and to consider new ones, in order to assist developing country Parties in addressing these impacts.]
      16. [Adverse economic and social consequences of response measures [shall][should] be addressed by proper economic, social and environmental actions, including promoting and supporting economic diversification and the development and dissemination of win-win technologies in the affected countries, paying particular attention to the needs and concerns of the poorest and most vulnerable developing country Parties.]
      Alternative to paragraph 16:
      [Adverse economic and social consequences of response measures shall be addressed by various means, including but not limited to promoting, supporting and enabling economic diversification, funding, insurance and the development, transfer and dissemination of win-win technologies in the affected countries, such as cleaner fossil fuel technologies, gas flaring reduction, and carbon capture and storage technologies.]
      17. [[Developed [and developing] countries] [Developed and developing country Parties] [All Parties] [shall] [should]:]
      (a) Compensate for damage to the LDCs’ economy and also compensate for lost opportunities, resources, lives, land and dignity, as many will become environmental refugees;
      (b) Africa, in the context of environmental justice, should be equitably compensated for environmental, social and economic losses arising from the implementation of response measures.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • The Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty

      Page 62:

      33. Each Party’s national schedule shall include:
      (a) A long-term national greenhouse gas emissions limitation or reduction pathway;
      (b) A country-driven nationally appropriate mitigation strategy, differentiated in terms of the ambition, timing and scope of its mitigation commitments or actions, which could be, inter alia, project-based, sectoral or economy-wide.
      (c) Each Party’s nationally appropriate mitigation strategy shall include:
      (i) Except for the least developed countries and small island developing States,
      quantified emissions limitation or reduction commitments for 2020, consistent
      with its long-term national greenhouse gas emissions limitations or reduction
      pathway, subject to regular review; and
      (ii) Measurable, reportable and verifiable mitigation policies and measures to meet its quantified emissions limitation or reduction commitments for 2020, as appropriate, and to support its national greenhouse gas emissions limitations or reduction pathway, subject to regular review.
      34. All countries prepare low emission development strategies. Note that further paragraphs would be required to describe in more detail their function and relationship to the national schedules described above and a potential facilitative/matching platform.
      35. All Parties shall develop and regularly update and submit information relating to the implementation of their nationally appropriate mitigation strategies. Such information shall be reviewed and verified according to agreed rules and guidelines.
      36. All Parties, except for the least developed countries and small island developing States, shall develop and regularly update and submit a national inventory of anthropogenic emissions by sources and removals by sinks of all gases not controlled by the Montreal Protocol.
      37. National inventories shall be:
      (a) Undertaken in accordance with the latest agreed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Guidelines for National Greenhouse Gas Inventories; and
      (b) Submitted, reviewed and verified according to agreed frequencies, rules and guidelines.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
  • stupidsayswhat
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      stupidsayswhat  
    • hey, just get over it, and lets try and be nicer to our earth, regardless of weather or not its going to bring about apocalypse or not. how's that for an idea eh?

    • 2 years ago
  • MOK
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Excerpt from above:
      The Oregon Petition, sponsored by the OISM, was circulated in April 1998 in a bulk mailing to tens of thousands of U.S. scientists. In addition to the petition, the mailing included what appeared to be a reprint of a scientific paper. Authored by OISM's Arthur B. Robinson, Sallie L. Baliunas, Willie Soon, and Zachary W. Robinson, the paper was titled "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide" and was printed in the same typeface and format as the official Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Also included was a reprint of a December 1997, Wall Street Journal editorial, "Science Has Spoken: Global Warming Is a Myth", by Arthur and Zachary Robinson. A cover note signed "Frederick Seitz/Past President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A./President Emeritus, Rockefeller University", may have given some persons the impression that Robinson's paper was an official publication of the academy's peer-reviewed journal. The blatant editorializing in the pseudopaper, however, was uncharacteristic of scientific papers.

      Robinson's paper claimed to show that pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is actually a good thing. "As atmospheric CO2 increases," it stated, "plant growth rates increase. Also, leaves lose less water as CO2 increases, so that plants are able to grow under drier conditions. Animal life, which depends upon plant life for food, increases proportionally." As a result, Robinson concluded, industrial activities can be counted on to encourage greater species biodiversity and a greener planet:

      As coal, oil, and natural gas are used to feed and lift from poverty vast numbers of people across the globe, more CO2 will be released into the atmosphere. This will help to maintain and improve the health, longevity, prosperity, and productivity of all people. Human activities are believed to be responsible for the rise in CO2 level of the atmosphere. Mankind is moving the carbon in coal, oil, and natural gas from below ground to the atmosphere and surface, where it is available for conversion into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush environment of plants and animals as a result of the CO2 increase. Our children will enjoy an Earth with far more plant and animal life as [sic] that with which we now are blessed. This is a wonderful and unexpected gift from the Industrial Revolution.

      In reality, neither Robinson's paper nor OISM's petition drive had anything to do with the National Academy of Sciences, which first heard about the petition when its members began calling to ask if the NAS had taken a stand against the Kyoto treaty. Robinson was not even a climate scientist. He was a biochemist with no published research in the field of climatology, and his paper had never been subjected to peer review by anyone with training in the field. In fact, the paper had never been accepted for publication anywhere, let alone in the NAS Proceedings. It was self-published by Robinson, who did the typesetting himself on his own computer. (It was subsequently published as a "review" in Climate Research, which contributed to an editorial scandal at that publication.)

      None of the coauthors of "Environmental Effects of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide" had any more standing than Robinson himself as a climate change researcher. They included Robinson's 22-year-old son, Zachary, along with astrophysicists Sallie L. Baliunas and Willie Soon. Both Baliunas and Soon worked with Frederick Seitz at the George C. Marshall Institute, a Washington, D.C., think tank where Seitz served as executive director. Funded by a number of right-wing foundations, including Scaife and Bradley, the George C. Marshall Institute does not conduct any original research. It is a conservative think tank that was initially founded during the years of the Reagan administration to advocate funding for Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative--the "Star Wars" weapons program.

    • 2 years ago
  • Dragan_Tutic
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      Dragan_Tutic  
    • I see many people here asking for TRUE, REAL facts.
      Instead of just looking at theses super numerous graphs that we can hardly say which one lies and which one dosen't.. I can clearly see the warmingit where I live.

      I do not know how many of you are from my region( Canada Near Montreal), I remember, about 10 years ago the winters where sooo long! with tons and tons of snow. But in theses earlier years the winter is starting much later (it is now end november and there is NO SNOW) I couldn't enven do trick and treat (oct 31st) without snowboots because there was allways snow 1 month earlier.

      And the winter doesn't even end later since it started later, we get such hot days at least a month before we were used to. I can't tell it is global warming for 100%, but something wrong is happening!

      Please let me know what you think about this

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • lj111
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      lj111  
    • ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE, IF THIS IS FOR REAL, STOOD UP AND SUED THIS FRAUDANT INDIVIDUAL AND MAKE HIM SPEND SOME OF THE MILLIONS HE HAS MADE OFF "GLOBAL WARMING".

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • 2damax
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      2damax  
    • Legitimate news sites don't put u in the air because ur full of crap. if people do they're research they'll probably find that those signatures are full of crap and that there are islands being taken over by rising see levels and ice is clearly receding and u people are dooming our world because you want the freedom to pollute the hell out of God's Earth.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • “MANBEARPIG”=

      MAN=ANTHROPOGENIC (CAUSED BY MAN) GLOBAL WARMING HOAX
      BEAR= AS IN “BEAR MARKET” CRASHING ECONOMIC SYSTEM
      PIG= OBVIOUSLY “SWINE FLU”

      ALL TOGETHER = “MAN BEAR BIG” A SYMBOLIC REPRESENTATION OF THE ENEMY/HOLY TRINITY PYRAMID THAT THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT RESTS ON…MAN…THOSE GUYS AT SOUTH PARK ARE DEEP!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • From: Phil Jones
      To: "Michael E. Mann"
      Subject: IPCC & FOI
      Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008

      Mike,

      Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
      Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment - minor family crisis.
      Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don't
      have his new email address.
      We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
      I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!
      Cheers
      Phil

      Prof. Phil Jones
      Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
      School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
      University of East Anglia
      Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Al Gore is only a "prophet" in your obsessed mind. This is about understanding and agreeing with the reality of what we are doing to this planet through our actions and respecting that he has the guts to bring that awareness to people who would otherwise not have it. And for that he will always have my utmost respect. So when all of you skeptics spread your "lawsuit" out to cover every scientist on the planet who has a peer reviewed article in consensus with AGW and can actually back it up, then you all may look credible and not like rightwing lunatics looking to appease a political grudge.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • To all of you people that worship the "Prophet" Al Gore:
      You remind me that scene in "Forest Gump" where one day he decides he wants to run,,,doesnt know why...he just feels like it...and there you go one by one...without even knowing why you running, you just follow....run run run ....run run run....one day he stops....he says: "I´m really tired, i´m going home" and "you" say: " What are we suppose to do now??" (same thing applies to the Monty Python movie "Life of Brian" wher he says "Stop following me! I´m not the messiah!"
      He´s a fraud....you were wrong...DEAL WITH IT!
      Well my advice to you: Stop following and start leading! I believe all of you, i don't believe just one of you! If each of you makes a difference you dont have to follow none.

      "Be the change you want to see in the world"
      Gandhi

    • 2 years ago
  • MOK
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      MOK  
    • frimer:

      frimer, here's where you've got a bit of a misconception..... It's not that us 'believers' follow Al Gore and treat him like our leader. No, he's just a non-scientist activist. He spread awareness, and that's nice and all, but he's still not a scientist.

      However, the vast body of peer-reviewed academia has consensus on much of the climate change debate. This debate still continues as scientists continue to explore all new aspects of this complex topic, or the uncertainties that linger...
      These peer reviewed articles, the vehicle upon which our world has derived scientific fact of all kinds for a long time, is the driver of our beliefs. A famous figurehead such as Al Gore is not the driver of our beliefs. Indeed, he's made some unfortunate errors in his movie, for instance.

      A poster earlier in this article, Saladin, linked a non-partisan video regarding the current climate change debate. Scroll back a bit and look it up, and you'll find that there are actually viable climate change skeptics. Real scientists(fancy that?).
      Monckton is not one of them, though, I can assure you that.

    • 2 years ago
  • chaos1
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      chaos1  
    • i dont even know who to believe anymore....but i know one thing is true. whether or not the earth is heating up we're still polluting our planet.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
  • courage
  • MOK
  • Matthew_Lane_Tripp
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      Matthew_Lane_Tripp  
    • http://bit.ly/ARTOFWAR48

      If the 3000 minutes that were spent watching this video were used to apply the GTD flowchart http://bit.ly.com/GTDflowchart2 and http://bit.ly.com/TWoBTP2 for permaculture logistics sustainabilty fair trade technology transfer immersive augmented reality ethics education working on the project so that none of the peices being put together in the tasks of the project were not repeated... teams of fifth graders could work out the free plan B 4.0 book online. i am at http://globalcide.livejournal.com and http://T4BP.com/Globalcide and http://TradeSkillsLLC.blogspot.com Matthew Lane Tripp at 1572 East Blackstock Rd. Moore SC 29369. The livejournal globalcide is a flyer you can set the maximum margins and grey font and size 9 font for a one page flyer. With book groups listed somewhere to torrents of the audiobooks and sheetfed scanners to make text files of all the needed books... so that it only takes a group of 5 people buying a copy of the book to cut off the spine and put through sheetfed scanner... and retired, elderly, and disabled can read books aloud to create free audiobooks to link the chapters to the wiki for each book and be able to see the sociology subject index link map overlay to each chapter of each book with the segmented audio immersive ethics augmented reality UI with the head tracking and VR gloves.

    • 2 years ago
  • jonathancurrent
  • MOK
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
    • 0
      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  
    • John Coleman is a television personality. Not a scientist. Founder of the Weather Channel is not a credential for participating in the global warming discussion. He is an expert on getting on the news and has always been closely associated with Fox. Form your own opinion but consider the source.

    • 2 years ago
  • jonathancurrent
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      jonathancurrent  
    • This guy must conveniently be missing the photos of receding ice caps and the fact that there are places in Europe now that are just building boat houses now because the water levels are raising too high for anyone to build a home reliably on soil that will stay dry.

    • 2 years ago
  • MOK
  • PressCore
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      PressCore  
    • Image
    • HaHaHaHaHaHa. As if even 300,000,000 scientists in the employ of the right is wrong wingnuts could put a fraking dent in the resources of the owner of Current.com. Even Bill Clinton had to exhaust his State Farm Umbrella liability policy
      and perhaps even one other insurance policy totaling coverages of Millions of dollars in legal fees before he raised an eyebrow. Hell, I have $ 2 Million worth of Umbrella liability coverage for a paltry $230. a year. Even Jackie Gleason would call that peanuts. You know I'd sure hate to be in the shoes of those 30,000 strungatz
      when Mr. Gore countersues for malicious litigation. Those monkeys will be selling pencils on street corners before they ever get another job in the Corporate world.
      So, rots of ruk, clowns. Maybe they thought that iceberg with a depth of 1,000 feet
      below sea level seen floating past Australia...And the slew of icebergs seen floating past New Zeeland were only the ice cubes in their cocktail glasses. Put those pus pimples you call your heads back in your asses, "scientists", You have as much
      credibility as the Zero Mostel movie "Springtime for Hitler" And if I were you jackasses I'd buy flood insurance pronto, and think about retiring to some high ground unless your kids can tread water every minute for the rest of their lives.

    • 2 years ago
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • i can't believe i read this nonsense. I need to go somewhere else for the sake of my brain, Copenhagen is sounding good right now...

    • 2 years ago
  • bushama
  • frimer
  • jubal
  • insaintity
  • insaintity
  • larrysnotes
  • NIkoN
  • Noire
    • 0
      Noire  
    • CO2 does not equal water vapor... dumbass. And, hypothetically, if Al Gore is wrong about global warming, what's wrong with getting people to be more environmentally friendly?

    • 2 years ago
  • advertisehere
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      advertisehere  
    • haha, i like the argument that CO2 is natural and therefore putting more into the atmosphere is totally fine.
      These arguments only work if you assume some very crude things that arent even widely held to be true, this guy assumes that you can't have too much of a good thing, which is clearly not the case.

    • 2 years ago
  • div
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      div  
    • advertisehere:

      You mean the argument that "it's natural therefore not bad" isn't true? Damn, so the poison from death cap mushrooms is bad? But, but, it's natural! How about cyanide?

      You mean the entire argument is stupid? Hey, who you callin' stupid?

    • 2 years ago
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  
    • Thank you Saladin for providing this informative video. It shows that It's not a matter of which scientist is lying. I think very few would actually lie about it. It's a matter of whose research is the most accurate. Whose evaluations are closest too reality. As non scientist we are not in a position to make qualified decisions on the subject. We have too rely on our scientists too identify and attempt too solve the problem as we do in other areas. But any information or evidence that can be provided too us non scientists to help us better understand what is actually occurring is vital to our comprehension of the subject. So thank you Saladin for helping too shed some light on the subject for the rest of us.

    • 2 years ago
  • PirateSauce
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      PirateSauce  
    • The man made global warming scam is finally coming apart at the seams, a lot of us have known for years it was a scam, but finally the masses are waking up to the complete lies we have been fed in the purpose of further transferring more wealth from the middle class to the elite via a carbon tax scheme that is one of the most ridiculous ideas in human history.

    • 2 years ago
  • Darevalo
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • And New ZEaland has warnings because melting glaciers from Anartica are drifting close and are a danger to shippijng. No global warming. HOpe some of those corporate scientists are on the ships near the dangerous glaciers that are falling apart and drifting.

    • 2 years ago
  • Stentor
  • Stentor
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      Stentor  
    • Leaving Fox News out of it (the mere mention of which seems to send some people into hysterics) The recent leakage of documentatry evidence of collusion and suppression of opposition views by pro-GW scientists makes the entire global-warming hypothesis highly suspect. The global-warming data has been shown to be fatally tainted, and the scientists involved in promoting the GW hypothesis have serious conflicts of interest that are clearly in the realm of scientific and academic malpractice.

    • 2 years ago
  • UndoInfluence
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      UndoInfluence  
    • Y'all just been Fauxed! Here's the break down. Way back in 1998 some petition got the signatures of over 30,000 people with at least a bachelors in science (you know like a degree in computer engineering, psychology or any of the other fields that make you instant experts on climate study) all saying they were not in support of the current (in 1998) theory of global warming.

      This petition (over 10 years old at this point) is not linked in anyway with any people supporting legal recourse against Al Gore and so pretty much it's just this one crazy guy (best news source faux gets) holding a piece of paper with random names on it saying "These people are all my friends".

      Of course, what else would you expect from Rupert?

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      Ice moving faster will translate into ocean water moving faster. About that time the Pole shift could kick in. You might see a lot more lost than just Florida. Like for instance much of the Navy. Already the world's ocean liners have recorded a record number of giant waves appearing almost out of nowhere slamming them in the side. That was a year ago.

      Worst case scenario, once the ice sheets get good and melted a little pole shifting then the sunspots return causing high winds over the water, we could easily be seeing something new => spontaneous tsunamis whipping around that are not caused by earthquakes.

      The white water hasn't gotten started good yet neither has Armageddon.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
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      bethopea  
    • JanforGore:

      Always wanted to live on Antarctica sans the ice.
      Dibs on the new beachy front land.
      Perhaps a giant ball of fire will land near the home and it will be great a tourist attraction for the time being.
      Time being an issue...

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      Hmm, an interesting thought, hot meteors hitting the ice. Tours of the meteor sites. Be sure and have an old Indian chief-turned-actor with a tear slowly rolling down his cheek and you'll do well.

      If enough meteors fall it would be like a reverse Mt. St. Helens.... People will really get upset if they take out Google HQ and a few choice ISP's and T-3 lines.

    • 2 years ago
  • brunsbuilt
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • The continued targeting of Al Gore is a specific tactic by the right.

      They purposefully don't go after scientists, because they can't possibly make their case with them because they're bullshit peddlers. The right can't even decide on what lies to agree on, whether or not they believe the earth is actually warming and of course it could never be man-made and if it is it's "natural" and therefore somehow not a problem.

      Al Gore is just some politician, brighter than most but never allowed to properly defend himself. And by obsessing over him rather than the science, they can continue to discredit legitimate science.

      It's real simple folks, NO ONE at this point disagrees with the fact that the earth is warming. Man-made or not, wouldn't it at least be prudent to stem off of costly fossil fuels anyway? Is it really such a bad thing to try and save water and not be wasteful?

    • 2 years ago
  • bushama
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      bushama  
    • Saladin:

      why do you think your beloved gore will not debate anyone, other then the fact he is a coward and not everyone plays your silly little left, right game, you do understand that, dont you?

    • 2 years ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Saladin:

      Understand what? You made no coherent point that I didn't already address.

      Why are you so obsessed with Al Gore? This is about science.

      Watch this non-partisan video and perhaps the whole series, then you'll understand what the scientific debate is about.

    • 2 years ago
  • MOK
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      MOK  
    • Saladin:

      Saladin, thank you for that video! Excellent series that clears up some misconceptions that I had! More people should see this. Info by scientists, from scientists, and not activists of either bent.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Saladin:

      From Frimer's link....it looks like the science is touched by paranormal theistic ideology.

      At the closing of the last ice age our ancient ancestors endured one of the most lethal global catastrophes to have occurred in the course of human history. Intelligent minds of those times thought it imperative to construct a message that would endure through time and be understood by the descendants of those who survived. Employing sophisticated cryptographic puzzle techniques similar to those modern astronomers use in designing extraterrestrial communications, they created a time capsule message that described the elusive celestial cause of this tragic disaster, alerting us that it could recur at long intervals and arrive at Earth's doorstep virtually without warning.

      This ancient cipher is today displayed in the heavens in the form of the 12 zodiac constellations (Greek / Egyptian / Babylonian versions), its informational content having been passed down orally in the lore of astrology. Also certain esoteric keys were handed down to help unlock its message, the Sphinx being one and the Tarot being the other.

      This is not science fiction. The important archaeological discovery of this ancient cipher was first made in the mid to late 1970's at Portland State University by systems scientist and astronomer Dr. Paul A. LaViolette.

      By passing through the Orion Nebula Sphinx Stargate, you will have the opportunity of experiencing the same thrill he did in deciphering the zodiac cryptogram and of solving the age-old riddle of the Sphinx. Some helpful information and hints are provided for this adventure. Also a compendium of essential background information for this task may be found in the books Genesis of the Cosmos and Earth Under Fire.

    • 2 years ago
  • mataliandy
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      mataliandy  
    • This is a hoax. The guy has been making the claim for over a year, but nothing has ever come of it. There is no 30,000 scientist list, no suit has ever been filed, and even if he somehow eventually convinces some people to join him in his deluded attempt to file a suit, there's no standing to sue.

    • 2 years ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • I dunno. Most of the variables that caused global warming to happen are still in place. Can Al Gore be sued for causing sunspot activity to stop dead cold? The disaster was fully cranked up then the sun cooled. We were given a very revealing decade-long glimpse at what we were doing wrong. Returning to business as usual doesn't seem a very smart idea. If the sun can turn itself DOWN that quickly what happens if it turns back ON again and we didn't make any changes?

      Something Cosmic is in evidence here. Someone else has pulled up a seat to the card table.

    • 2 years ago
  • bethopea
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      bethopea  
    • can't we all just get along - yes - the globe is warming - everyone agrees this point ...just a matter *why* that is the dilemma (or the money maker - which ever you choose)

      If we say yes to the *cause* being Co2 then multi-billion $ corps pushing for Green Energy get to run Big Oil off the tracks!

      If the cause is merely a natural occurrence then, well, the digging prevails....the Bush admin. wanted nothing to do with the global warming - hmm I wonder why...

      Either way coorps are making big ones.
      What I do not understand is why the oil companies do not change over to the green energy (if that is where the money is) maybe it is like a bad relationship - spent too much time, energy and money in supporting it and it is too late to back out now.

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • bethopea:

      Get your facts strait! The world HAS BEEN COOLING!They have been manipulating the data and they just have got caught doing it.Google the hacked emails or just find it here on current

    • 2 years ago
  • murphinador
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      murphinador  
    • bethopea:

      frimer.....Really.....Really.....wow......ugh depression....are americans really as stupid as i fear. Check the facts global warming is real...but arguing a republicans is like smashing your head into a wall and cleaning your scull with a spoon.

    • 2 years ago
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • bethopea:

      The world has been cooling? No wonder the majority of the worlds glaciers are shrinking, because we all know that large blocks of ice grow in the heat and shrink in the cold...

    • 2 years ago
  • frimer
  • MOK
  • claybird121
  • audi500a
  • claybird121
  • antoine_99
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      antoine_99  
    • claybird121:

      Great question!!! Only 9,000 are even PhDs (therefore, 21,000 are not experts at all). I don't know anything about this particular lawsuit, but similar petitions in the past have been comprised of "scientists" from all backgrounds. Certainly not all climate experts.

    • 2 years ago
  • bushama
  • MOK
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      MOK  
    • bushama:

      If you really wanted to put momentum behind the notion of bringing supposed frauds to justice, then you'd pay less heed to the figurehead.
      Instead look to the scientists who are providing his data. Sue the scientists. Nearly all of the climate scientists in the world. Also sue the scientists in tangentially related fields that corroborate their findings. There ya go.

    • 2 years ago
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