Rantings of a Crazy Bitch

wow this is just sad

Hey All, just wondering. I was flipping through channels yesterday on Sunday, and found a television program called Jesus Jams. Does JJammer have to do with this idea of Christian music videos?

Does JJammer mean that he is a Jesus Jammer? Just curious....if anyone knows what his name is really supposed to mean.

I know i'm late to this, but I too agree that he shouldn't be banned. He did make a racist comment and offended people. Suspending him would have been the best thing and removing some of his badges would have maybe calmed him down.. but to banned him? That's a bit a much specially when he never sexually harassed anyone or threaten to kill anyone.

I know he's not a member of the KKK, he's half Japanese and we have talked about our Japanese culture(when we use to get along)

I agree and disagree with the comments here, but the only comment I can truly agree with here is, banning him was not the best choice. If there's a petition to bring him back, I'll sign it as well, but! let's put some limitations on what he can do to make him understand that his comments do affect people.

He use to send me links all the time. Wow.

Peace
j

All of that tracking and reading of comments, and scrutinizing Current must take a lot of time. I find it shocking that a website/TV channel can evoke such strong emotion out of someone. I'd spend less time sitting in front of the TV and computer screens if I were said "crazy bitch".

It takes two to tango. If current is not putting up VC2 as much its because, we're not delivering. It is great to see someone who takes current seriously, now lets focus on making great pods.

FU*K YOU DOLPHIN WHALE! LOL Good Ridence to bad garbage JJ was a Jackass of grade A caliber. He will not be missed.

More like a dumb bitch. Current is the only good channel on TV. It educates, and it's funny. Stop bitching about dumb shit. Just don't watch it, if you don't like it. Hate is a waste of energy.

I hope you can feel better?

well this website is owned by al gore people what are you expecting? ! we dont have freedom of speech and democracy in the west... that is just what your told!

You know , it is really delightful around here without the nonsensical arguing . I had no idea what a difference it would make , but I really like it .

just thought i'd add a bit to this one.

on NPR they were talking about the whole "people are saying mean things about Rush being in the hospital" thing.

perhaps the fight group is a good thing for some people.

but current, as cool as it is, probably looks a little better when more of us get along?

i don't know. any thoughts?

i see nothing wrong with banning the use of unnecessary expletives. highly detailed refferences do more for the support of your argument than do curses or threats. the next time you are angry about something give yourself time to think about it before you say something you might later regret. "fear leads to confusion, confusion leads to anger, and anger is the path to the dark side." ~yoda.

Hey I have an idea why don't we just have a fight room like another site that I go to has?

free speech? this is a private site, owned by a private party. while unpopular, they reserve the right to ban or censor anything they choose. i agree that current is becoming less "user-created" and that's frustrating. however, no user is in any position to make DEMANDS from a site that they aren't paying any money for.

While this is not a freedom of speech issue in whole, the video does point out how there are differences in reactions from the Current staffers that depend on their own point of views. Many people violate the terms, but yes they are only exposed for it when there is a flag that brings it to their attention. Still it does make one wonder why certain profiles are not punished when other's are. The person who admitted they had profiles who had been banned, did the recent profile violate any rules, or was it a ban based on personal vendettas?? Staffers are human, and not perfect. Still this forum will be boring if everyone agreed......

Nancyf, I have to agree with DeliaTheArtist on this. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with this issue. If this was an issue in which the government banned someone from participating in the online community because of something that was said, then there might be something to the first amendment being violated. However, since that is not the case, arguing about freedoms granted to us by our government is irrelevant.

Also moving along to the terms of agreement. It is true that this is not a community that people pay to join online. That does not mean that there is no contract, nor does it mean that current is the equivalent of a public place. Think instead of current like a bar or coffee shop where people come to exchange ideas. You might or might not be able to pay for things, but you don't need to buy anything to get in, hang around, and chat for a bit. However, if you proceed to be uncivil any establishment of the sort retains the right to remove you from the premises. In much the same way, everyone with an account on current signed an electronic contract stating that they would behave within certain boundaries. It is not negotiable, and you can't get an account without agreeing to the contract. Now I, and I assume just about everyone else here on current, have not read the contract. There is a reason why for that, it is because just about every contract to get on any forum on the internet has identical terms. They all pretty much sum up as, don't post racist things, don't be a troll, don't threaten people with written words of violence, etc. If one violates these enough on just about any forum, then they typically get smacked up to hell from an admins ban hammer. DeliaTheArtist is also correct that the admins of current don't read through people's posts to look for ban worthy material. There are thousands of posts on this website daily. They can't keep track of them all. As DeliaTheArtist wrote, people flag posts that they think are inappropriate and the admins look at it in response. If the person who was flagged for their comment violated the electronic contract then there is a problem. If they did not violate the electronic contract, then the admins do nothing, no matter how many flags the comment gets.

Now in response to J_Jammer being banned, I am sorry to see him go. I'm not sorry because he was a constant argument, nor am I sorry because he was a pain in the ass that liked to argue and piss people off just to argue. I'm sorry to see him gone because I actually had a few decent debates with him that stirred the neurons. It didn't happen often, but it was fun when it did happen.

DeliaTheArtist, I believe a block button that has the safety and protection for people from stalkers that has the connotations of personal choice is to blank them out from the stalkers on any page on their website. That way, they wouldn't have the responsibility of banning them, but only if they were breaking laws on their site. Then they would be responsibile to report them to authorities and ban them at their leisure. Have u ever felt the pain of being ignored when rejected?

I agree that we are the government. I just don't understand how that or anything else related to the constitution has anything to do with this thread! You original comment was

"But when they get personal and violate privacy by judging them without a court of law, they are breaking the constitution. Go ask a Supreme court judge."

I don't think any supreme court judge would even come close to taking a case like this seriously, in which a member of a website voluntarily agreed to terms of services then repeatedly violated them which resulted in being removed from the site. There is nothing to my knowledge in the constitution that says private websites need a court of law to remove members.

Well, DeliaTheArtist, tell me; what parts of the Constitution do u understand and support? Bascially, Supreme court Judges are the indiviuals selected to support their own personal interpretation of parts of the constitution wheter right or wrong...are u aware of the things that hurt us can now be used against those who used it against us? And which parts can u use to commit Justice for We The People? We ARE the Government. He who denies it is Anti-American and knows not the constitution and the establishment of civil rights and liberties. Oh, those who took away too many rights from other Americans should tremble in their boots...

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Let's go out in a blaze of glory / All good things must end / Like two heros in a story / Let's go out like we came in …

Nancy, what in the world are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the constitution. Current is a website where you voluntarily agree to terms of service and community guidelines- I see NO breach of the constitution there! If you have a problem with the way Current.com operates, take it up with them- I'm just a user here, I have nothing to do with how the site is run or the decisions that are made about members.

To DeliaTheArtist ; do u not like 'liberties' of the constitution? What country did u come from? And I suspect u r fine with taking away private property from people with that attitude. But maybe we should go further and take the property away from the crooked rich as they do to the poor.

"I'm actually Kuffar. I've been banned about 15 times."

Thank you for confirming what I have always suspected. Now the Current staff will be more inclined to believe me when you make another sockpuppet.

I have no problem with his views on Muslims. The problem is when he acts like an obnoxious jerk towards anybody who disagrees with him.

DeliaTheArtist said: Do u pay for dictatorship terms? LOL~

They shouldn't have 'terms of service' if this is FREE. If u r not paying for it, and they are not paying U for it, that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to ban people if they don't have a 'block' button for us to go unseen by those stalking creeps we don't have anything to do with. This is public is it not?? Apparently they are obeying the constitution by tolerating different religions, colors, and sexes. But when they get personal and violate privacy by judging them without a court of law, they are breaking the constitution. Go ask a Supreme court judge.

There was a saying at the turn of this decade we are now leaving, Thank God for the Internet and TV, it keeps so many dumb people off the streets. I'll have to meditate on that thought......don't think they were talking about Nettle or J.

Congratulations Nettle and Jammer - over 200 comments is awesome. Lots of interesting discussion, plenty of food for thought.

Happy New Year everyone! My New Year's resolution is not to get suspended or banned. Nettle, I hope you can bury the hatchet and continue to post.

i'll say!

hello, nettle. how goes it?
nice job on the video. i'm assuming you've been a member for awhile.
i'm new, so just trying to get it all sorted out.

i would be nervous displaying a video like that myself because i'm just a super nervous kind of guy. so congrats on the balls you must have had! :)

we get you, kuffar.
but i think this last little comment might just be taunting.

plus, when people start talking like that, it seems like they just crave attention.

were you banned for profanity or what? i'm new here.
but i will admit one thing: this site is more like a bitchy forum than a place to discuss actual stories of interest. at least as far as my experience has shown me here.

I'm actually Kuffar. I've been banned about 15 times. Largely thanks to despicable snitches like fallen morgan. And I wouldn't harm a fly. I've contributed a lot to this site and generated many a stimulating debate. I've been a victim of the war against authentic free speech and open debate over and over again. I come back again and again because it serves no purpose to only participate on a mutual congratulation site where everybody understands the same thing. I enjoy a good scrap and like provoking others who have fallen into a stagnant complacency, shutting out new input. Above all, I like to share information and knowledge with those who have no access to it, because they have chosen only to associate and interact with those of like minds and views.

Now folks, just see how long I last after this sincere disclosure. If I'm banned toute suite , then you'll have the privilege of seeing small mindedness in action and a clear demonstration of a contempt for free speech.

Blame it on the advertisers if you wish.

Oh yes. It's hard for me to remember that there are many people I will not even talk to and some who deserve that, but they know they can rile me and get me to give more info than they would EVER get from me any other way. Now I'm working on that. I asked GOD for patience many years ago, and he has been giving me the rough lessons to learn from!!

"this is a video from you to me"

it makes me uncomfortable because it's awkward. if i did this video i would be nervous about people watching it.

but the internet is meant for this kind of thing. bravo.

@deputydawg ----"We are all nettle now"
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Jammer was a vampire. he sucked people's time and energy. he was an attention seeker and contributed nothing concrete, substantial and meaningful. I just ignored him and stopped reading his comments.But banning him was gratuitous and spiteful.

Voted up. Thanks for posting this.

What happened to this site... I remember when this site was about the people... freedom of speech... I hate the journalists (which most likely have nothing to do with the banning of individual users)...

I joke you, Current!

Personally, I'm relieved that jj has finally been banned from the site. Were his comments sometimes misinterpreted? Sure... at times. But just as often as they were misinterpreted they were also inherently over the line, bigoted, and misdirected. That coupled with the fact that he was REPEATEDLY warned by Current staff to tone it down warrants nothing less than an account suspension. An excerpt from a back and forth he and I had:

-Kanye West Takes Taylor Swift's Mic at MTV VMAs-

"Glad to see you think his behavoir is acceptable. And before you reply with OMG I didn't say it was. You sure the hell didn't say what he did was wrong. Had a 'white' person done it...you'd be calling them racist for doing so. Now that it's someone who isn't white doing it it's fine and the TV people should be happy. Nothing about how what he did was wrong to a country star. Typical."

-J_Jammer

Go to (http://current.com/items/90938718_kanye-west-takes-taylor-swifts-mic-at-mtv-vmas...) and expand my first post for just one example of 'constructive dialogue' between JJ and myself.

Dear drama blog,

today i was stalking my favorite site when...

i had no clue he was banned..... im not happy with my votes being erased and the lack of ability to recommend on comments......

I hope j-jammer sues current......

Jeez what the hell happened to this place???

And for everyone that thinks Jay is already back, he's not. He won't be coming back. Once he's banned he's done. One reason being that that's just the kind of person he is and the other being that he really really likes his username and couldn't see anything else being a match.

Ten bucks and a soda says that Jammer already started a 2nd account many moons ago,... and he's now checking out this Jammer-centric story!
It is kinda sorta bogus that he's been banned,... even though we don't know all of the details. And Nettle? Good on ya for this provocative, conversation-sparking post.

The point that I think that all the defenders of jammer are blind to is this...In this country you are free to say whatever you wish,....however, you are not free from the consequences, everything you do comes with a price, not always paid with currency..for example, I can walk into a biker bar and shout " any prick who would ride a Harley is some Honda riders bitch boy...now I am free to say that , but what happens next is the consequence of my words..in other words the price I pay for my provoking them. Jammer was presented the bill and has simply paid the price for his provocations.

JJammer was never my "tag team" partner! I rarely even responded to his comments. You are all free to check this out. However, I did agree with him on many points. He at least was man enough to call a spade a spade! It is regretful that we lose such a vocal and well centered voice speaking for the opposition on certain issues. Without his voice, I can only hear baaaing, in the background.

I've been talking to other people about this and I have come to a conclusion. Some of these nasty talking people don't have any manners and their parents NEVER taught them to BE POLITE. That's the worse way to start a fight, or a war.