Comedy | February 05, 2010 | 30 comments

'I'm Not Saying Your Mother's a Whore': How Fox News Censored Jon Stewart vs. Bill O'Reilly

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Fox News has generously placed the full, unedited conversation between Bill O'Reilly and Jon Stewart online, so we can see precisely how unfairly and deviously Fox edited the interview in order to weaken Stewart's case: A lot!

Last night on his show—Part Two of a ludicrously overhyped "faceoff" between O'Reilly and Stewart in which Stewart attempted, among other things, to present a critique of Fox as a fear-mongering GOP messaging operation—O'Reilly boasted that his edit of their 42-minute interview for broadcast was "a fair cut" and invited viewers to have a look at the unedited version online to judge for themselves: "Some of these idiots in the press who hate us, 'O'Reilly cut the interview to make Stewart look'—OK, all of that is bull. It's a fair cut. And then when you watch the cut and watch the whole interview you'll see it."

So we took him up on the offer, and guess what? If by "fair cut" O'Reilly means "cut in a manner that left some of Stewart's best lines, most effective arguments, and most convincing evidence out of the interview and hidden from the broadcast audience," then he's absolutely right.

Here's the best exchange of the whole interview, in which Stewart gets O'Reilly to admit that he thinks Barack Obama believes in "tyranny and socialism," and then asks him why Obama's most generous spending has been to bail out banks. He closed with this unanswerable question: "How many tyrants do you know that really suffer because they can't get cloture?" O'Reilly rejoindered with a lame joke about NBC, because what else could he do? None of this made the air:

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30 comments // 'I'm Not Saying Your Mother's a Whore': How Fox News Censored Jon Stewart vs. Bill O'Reilly

  • Varex_Sythe
  • Namor
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  • pjacobs51
  • Namor
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  • pjacobs51
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      pjacobs51  
    • Namor:

      Bill cut the parts that made him look bad, or made Stewart look good.

      Current won't show posts about it's staff (N. Korea thing)
      or it's owner. (they want their jobs?)

      Does Fox run stories about Murdoch? I thought so . . .

    • 1 year ago
  • Namor
  • pjacobs51
  • Namor
  • pjacobs51
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      pjacobs51  
    • Namor:

      Do you have a source for this default ruling? I don't want to think through my whole life and mention out loud or in text all the things I "dislike" just to make it valid.

    • 1 year ago
  • existentialist
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      existentialist  

    • Jon is not on top of his game lately (even Jon said that he thinks he could have done the interview better). I felt like he struggled a lot in the interview. He made jokes at all the wrong times and often deflected serious questions with jokes. To be fair I did feel that some of Bill's questions seemed disrespectful, but Jon took them with good humor. I wouldn't say that all of his best points were cut or even that Jon was "censored." They cut out some of Jon's rants, but I felt the rants took away from the interview. If I wanted comedic rants I would watch the Daily Show. Furthermore, I wish Jon would have turned off his need to make people laugh for this interview.

      When Jon was confronted with taking things out of context, though I can see Jon's point, I thought Bill was correct. I remember that episode of the Daily Show and had they used the entire quote by Bill then it would not have been nearly as effective in proving Jon's point.

    • 2 years ago
  • flyingkick
  • CalgarC
  • trut
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • CalgarC:

      Jon did bring up that point that Fox treated the protesters there differently than the Tea Party protesters.

      Bill said that was taken out of context and Jon disagreed then told him that he hadn't included the distinction of the "arrested" protesters that Bill thought he had so it wasn't out of context.

      That pretty much proves the point Jon made of "the cyclonic pertpetual motion machine" of the narative that Fox uses.

    • 2 years ago
  • ColossalView
  • existentialist
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      existentialist  
    • CalgarC:

      That is more humiliating for the protesters than for Fox News. It was a bunch of cynical young adults chanting "fuck Fox News". That was just immature. I dislike Fox News, but I don't want to be thrown in a category with those clowns.

    • 2 years ago
  • neocongo
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  

    • It was not very different from when The Daily Show puts the unedited version of the whole interview on their website because the it is way too long for the show.

      I do wish they had more time to go into a lot more of the some of the points they raised like Jon's take on Global Warming the difference between that the problem is serious but some of what they have proposed as solutions have been silly.

      I agree with him that pumping toxins into the air, water and land for decades would have an effect on the enviroment but proposing “cap and trade” or “carbon credits” isn’t an efficient solution since they a lot like “indulgences” for sins the Christians used.

      The "smart super grid" he mentioned and rebuilding the energy infrastructure would be a much better solution

    • 2 years ago
  • bike10
  • obamaisajoke
  • fdsooner
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      fdsooner  
    • obamaisajoke:

      so you think obamaisajoke? heres a little advice I read just a few minutes ago...its hard to deal with anyone who thinks everything is a fucking joke...isn't this guy's show of FOX NEWS?

    • 2 years ago
  • TopScruffy
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  

    • John made some brilliant arguments. And I have to admit, O'Reilly surprised me a bit because he was quite civil and pleasant with John. But then again, Stewart pointed out at the end of the discussion, kind of as a joke but I also think that it is true to an extent, that O'Reilly likes Stewart.

    • 2 years ago
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