Ollie North On What Happens If Gays Are Allowed To Serve Openly In Military: 'NAMBLA Members' Are Next
source: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/05/ollie-north-dadt/
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Saladin
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Oliver North is a fucking convicted war criminal (he got off on a technicality) who supported the terrorists in Nicaragua, it's only Americans' goldfish memory that prevent them from protesting him off the air.
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Saladin
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bking74
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Saladin:
I have to disagree with you about Oliver North being a war criminal. He was acting under the orders of his direct command. Yes, he was supplying “terrorists” with arms and aiding them in their efforts to overthrow a legal democratic government. This was done to in an attempt to stop the growth of communism in South and Central America. Lies were told and deceit was practiced but war is dirty. As far as serving openly in the military is an extremely touchy subject for us already serving in the Military. Unit cohesion is imperative for the survival of our soldiers and success of our mission. You need total trust with you brother in arms and while I know gays already serve in the military, I am not sure what the effect on moral will be if gays serve openly. The reason I struggle with this is because I believe in equal rights for everyone. It’s the reason I have dedicated my life to the military. I would be a hypocrite if I wish for equal rights for everyone but to refuse gays Americans the privilege of serving their country and defending their rights.
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bking74
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRE9qOgbug
Don't forget the polygamists and Mutton Fans since you're building that strawman argument on the slippery slope then you might as well finish it.
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Argon18
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ChunkyCheezes [removed]
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I hate how politicians take every chance they get to bash the North American man/boy love association. (NMBLA). A perfectly healthy relationship can exist between a man and a boy. The arbitrary designation of 18 as the age of manhood is a societal construction. Whose to say the love that exists between a man and 16 year who is two years away from becoming what society designates as a man, isn't any less real than the love between a man and a women?
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ChunkyCheezes [removed]
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ChunkyCheezes:
you better be fucking kidding.
The organization is a breeding ground for people who should be stoned to death.
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oppressed1
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ChunkyCheezes [removed]
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oppressed1:
can you really put a value on love based on the two parties involved?
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ChunkyCheezes [removed]
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ChunkyCheezes:
if your saying can i place a love on fucking young children than yes. ITs wrong, and you should be shot in the dome for it.
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Saladin
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oppressed1:
Whoa whoa whoa, NMBLA is by no means a legit institution. It's a fucking haven for predatory pedophiles.
And pedophilia is by definition, predatory. Sorry, a 60 year old guy and an 8 year old boy don't have a romantic relationship, period. With the possible exception of mental retardation on the part of the older guy, they have nothing in common in behavior, intellect or interests.
There can be exceptions to large age differences in relationships and, let's face it, pretty much none of us started having sex at 18. But of the 0.5% of cases in which the "love" is legit, you have 99.5% of cases in which a child has had their delicate minds scrambled by someone who has a sexual fetish and likes to pretend it's love.
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Saladin
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Saladin:
Your intolerance and hate give off an aura of ignorance as well. First of all, age is just a number we use to define the number of revolutions our planets has made around the sun. Second of all, 18 as the age of manhood, is just an arbitrary designation given by U.S. society and hardly universal. In many African countries 12 is the age of manhood and a corresponding coming of age ceremony takes place along with other rites of passage. After these rituals a man can make love and be made love to. Thirdly, Who are you to quantify love based on what some think is taboo? You can’t chose who or what you love, it’s biologically pre-determined for you. You don’t think love can exist between a 16 year who is only two years from becoming what America deems as a Man, and a 21 years old?
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oppressed1
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The military members dont want this repealed. There is a million peopel in the military and they estimate 50k are gay. Thats a pretty small number. The current system works fine, and we dont need the liberal agenda destroying the last great part of america.
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oppressed1
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Saladin
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oppressed1:
The military didn't want integration with blacks either, big source of tension during Vietnam. Same kind of arguments.
Tough shit, you're not an autonomous institution. If America is gay friendly, so are you.
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Saladin
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Saladin:
If i could hate you i would.
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donkeyfly69
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pedophiles (gay AND straight) can already join if they get a fee waiver
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donkeyfly69:
I dont know what service you are talking about, but you cant get waivers for molesting children. You cant even get waivers any more for any felony offenses. The economy is broken, and we dont need felons anymore.
But you could never be a sexual offender and be a service member.
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oppressed1:
unless you get record expunged
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donkeyfly69