Simpsons creators express their support for South Park (sort of)

Hallelujah and thank you Chris Bekhuis. I stand with your comment....voted up.

I'll protect you.
+^'d

thats cool lmao

Hilarious.

Lol now we are all gonna die , Lmao !

An enemy of Israel is an enemy of humanity.

lmfao Dude! You're hilarious!
You should definitely do stand up.
I joke too.
-\/'d

Where'd the picture go?

Israel is not beyond reproach.

everyone draw muhammad day is a great idea

I'm going to draw one of Jesus too just to be fair. If I get really bored all draw all the deities I can think of... Hera would be fun.

Here Here, I am there to make the stand at South Park. No more bowing to extremists Muslims. Never surrender. You are 100% right about what it means to be an American.

hahahahaha
touche.

although there are many people out there that just can't seem to form their own opinion on things,so when they seek wisdom and guidance,

they watch cartoons.

ah but the length of broadcast does not nessissarily corrilate with the quality of the broadcast

from my observations south park has stayed fresh and funny it's whole TV career but the simpsons had jumped the shark a while ago, they havent had a great new episode in years.

simpsons rule today2 morrow southpark they got foul language every 3 frames

SIMPSONS DID IT!!!!

Simpsons DID IT

I wrote a long post about how the censoring made it about freedom of speech. i also wrote about how the episode touched on how we shouldn't be intimidated by and we should stand up against them when they use fear tactics to submit us into what they want us to do. I wrote about how south park knows no boundaries and they make fun of everyone equally, until now.

You asked if this episode exposed the injustices and inhumanities of some islamic nations, that would be something to stand behind and defend. Freedom of speech, People using scare tactics and death threats and bomb threats to get their way, "Terrorism" isn't worth standing for?

All I thought in the end was this, Do you even watch South Park or do you have a blinded opinion on it because it made fun of something you care dearly about.

I made an account just to address your ignorant attempt at bashing south park. I don't watch south park that often, so I wouldn't call myself a fanboy. What I would say is that the creators south park have every single right to express themselves.

First of all, Freedom of Speech rights do not apply to private industries. Comedy Central has a legal right to censor anything they want. Ultimately, they're just a corporation whose bottom line is making money. If content they are airing is causing death threats, that's a liability for them. So from a legal standpoint, their completely justified in censoring the episode if they choose to.

Secondly, all Trey and Matt are doing is making fun of Islam. It's nothing constructive. They aren't championing any cause worth fighting for.

Let me make an analogy. Imagine South Park wanted to make fun of Black slavery. The episode would have rape, whippings, hangings, all of those horrible things, just for the purpose of laughing at them. This cartoon would be rejected and denounced by most Americans- because making fun of Black slavery is taboo in the mainstream media- it's off limits. Just like images of Mohamed are off limits in some Muslim communities. Should we make fun of Black Slavery just because free speech allows us to? Of course not, some things, you just don't make fun of because it's in incredibly bad taste.

Sorry to be a buzz kill, but there are a lot of people who are just romanticizing this issue. South Park probably has some of the best social commentary of TV, but they also have a habit of causing controversy purely for the sake of controversy.

i think you miss the point entirely. freedom of speech IS listening to the shit that is shit just to be shit... YOU! as a viewer have the option of turning to any of the other 500 channels to watch something else if its offensive.
the fact that anyone could FORCE a person to hold back on their own speech is in affect an infringement to that individuals freedom of speech... especially when that pressure comes from an organization completely based on the censorship of things for reasons no one cares about any more... except parents that dont watch what their kids do...

its not like i(or most of you) didnt understand anything they said until the last 5 minute long beep...
it reinforces the profanity attached to a word, or any negative connotation... when a word (or image) becomes taboo... its ridiculous.

nigger is another one of those things
like you say... slavery runs deep... but we dont always censor it.

I don't think it's worth deeply offending someone just because you want to exercise your right to free speech purely for the sake of exercising it.

It's difficult for a lot of people to understand, but images of Mohamed are extremely offensive to some Muslims. If something is extremely offensive to someone else, yet not really important to you, why would you go there? It's just a joke to Trey and Matt, but it's a religion to a lot of Muslims. OK, so they're defending their right to free speech, but free speech to what? To offend people for the sake of making a joke? And not just offend, but religiously offend people to the point to where they send death threats. And this is all just for a joke. Of course, they're entitled to their right to free speech, but they're using it for a pretty stupid reason- to offend people. There's nothing heroic or noble about what they're doing.

And for the record, Trey and Matt didn't have any of their free speech rights infringed upon. Comedy Central is a private corporation, they can legally censor anything they want. Now, if the government were to censor that episode, that would be a problem.

Because they make fun of everyone. They have had jesus walking around for ten years. There is even an episode where jesus and santa go medevil and kill half of Iraq. This shit with muslims is over, here in america we can do what ever the fuck we want. We shouldnt care what some dumb ass in pakistan thinks of our dirty little comedies on wed have in them. Its ok for muslims to do anything in the name of tolerance. So how about they be tolerant for a fucking change and stop being such damn pussies.

Who is the bully here, really?
If you're thinking of this in terms of highschool analogies, this situation is more like a popular kid making fun of an angry retarded child from broken home because he knows that all the teachers and all the other kids will let him do it and support him, and if the retarded kid tries anything he's toast.

When there is a history of allowing South Park to go where they wanted to go, to censor NOW (and over what they did) is disingenuous and disappointing, to say the least. Do you think there were Catholics that were "deeply offended" over the "bleeding out her butt Virgin Mary" episode a few seasons back? I'll bet there were, but none of them tried to bully Comedy Central into censoring the episode.

As a people, we should not be cowed by a religious belief, especially someone else's. If Muslims are offended by an image of Mohammad, then they shouldn't tune in. Our right to free speech is not dictated by someone's morality or how someone "feels" about what is being said. In the United States, I can say that the pope is a Nazi who approved of, and perhaps encouraged, pedophilia. That may or may not be an outrageous statement and there may or may not be consequences for saying it, but I can still say it.

It seems as though from your posts that you would prefer that no one even ATTEMPT saying anything that "might" offend someone else or especially someone's religious beliefs or exercising their free speech right for a "stupid reason". You don't get to make those judgments -- of course, you can react to someone's speech; my reaction to Comedy Central's censorship is to stop watching their channel until I hear that episode 201 has been rebroadcast as uncensored as it was meant to be and I wrote them and told them that. Unimportant in the entire scheme of things as they are, those are MY consequences to Comedy Central for their censorship of South Park's right to free speech. Going with your argument that Comedy Central is a corporation and react only to their bottom line, I guess if enough people do that, the episode will be rebroadcast, but I doubt it.

The biggest issue in this is that Comedy Central didn't censor due to money or offensiveness, they did it due to fear and intimidation of a fringe group that also has their right to free speech. I think it's unfortunate that this group has their right to free speech and I'm offended by their tactics in their use of it, but that's too bad, they still do. Again, free speech is free speech.

i hope you understand that southpark has shown Mohamed several times already.
(and nothing happened)

and that in many episodes he appears in the opening credits.

also that they gave him the ability to control fire.

any joke on any subject, is a joke, and should be treated as such... either you laugh or say its not funny. but you dont go and say you have no right to say such things because these people dont like it.

(i know jews dont like it every time i ask them how many jews can fit in a VW bug.
but they still laugh and the horrible answer i give them..
and some dont, and i apologize if it offends and let them know its just a joke.)

when thousands have been mad for similar reasons before, the only difference is that this time, the idiots want to use bombs... and you say that matt and trey are the bad guys?

religion based in peace somehow leads to killing others who dont believe in what you believe for words and pictures... in a similar style to any other subject matter that has been made fun of.
what makes mohamed so speacial?(is it his goo?)

words and pictures vs bombs and death threats...

your on the wrong side buddy.

that is the whole point.

i want to exercise my right to offend everyone possible.

cause i am an asshole.

when the world is vacant of obnoxious people, you know something is wrong.

edit: And yes, you are completely correct on the legality of the censorship.

I just see it as a good thing when people are upset by any censorship.

that way if any government censorship comes along, people are ready to do something about it.

Maybe the point is to show how ridiculous all religion is. Maybe it's telling people to lighten up about something so ridiculous as showing a cartoon of a religious figure.

it's actually about how the American public is being scared into giving up their right to free speech through death threats from Islamic extremists. In this country I have the right to free speech and when someone threatens me for being me then I'm going to fight back and hit them with what they hate the most to make my point that they CANNOT control my actions through fear. South Park pushes the limits of what we define as acceptable in culture, always has. But its either ok to make fun of everyone or you can't make fun of anyone at all.

@steve, dare, reed, sokka

This doesn't have anything to do with free speech. Matt and Trey have all the free speech they want. It's completely within their rights to make fun of Mohamed.
However, this is about Comedy Central not wanting to be involved with Trey and Matt inciting death threats over a joke- which is completely understandable.

Imagine you're at a restaurant with a business associate. Your associate starts loudly insulting the Muslims sitting next to you. It's really funny, but it's getting them agitated and it looks like they want to fight. Now, it's completely within your associates rights to make fun of these guys, but it's also completely understandable if you want to just leave the restaurant- why get into a fight over a stupid joke?

That's basically what Comedy Central is doing. It's reasonable to assume that the death threats would start getting sent directly to Comedy Central as well. They'd rather not get into death threats over a joke. What's the point, what's to be gained? Suppose Trey and Matt get blown up over this. Would it be worth it? Or worse, say a Comedy Central mailboy gets blown up over this. There's a difference between defending free speech and just being needlessly reckless. That's why I don't blame Comedy Central.

No one's free speech is being violated. Trey and Matt can say whatever they want.

However, ultimately it's Comedy Central's choice to air whatever they want. They're deciding not to incite death threats over a joke. It's as simple as that.

You know darevalo, you made me think about something. The Extremists Muslims in an uproar over jokes about Muhammad is no different than Jews getting in an uproar when people question the veracity of the numbers of Jews killed in the Holocaust. Jews have untouchable subjects as much as Muslims do.

I don't see Christians terrorizing people for blasphemy against their religion. Of course they already have murdered hundreds of millions in the name of Jesus already.

Jesus has left Christianity because they have used his name to justify all sorts of evil.

what kind of adult cartoons...