Stupid American Tourists & the State Dept That Loves Them
source: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/22288/stupid-american-tourists-the-state-dept-that-loves-them/
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Then, there are Shane Bauer, Sarah Shourd, and Josh Fattal–the three faux-journalists stuck in jail in Iran. The three are really pan-Islamist, anti-Israel far-lefties living in Damascus, Syria. One of them, Fattal, is supposedly Jewish. What kind of dumbass Jew from America goes hiking in Iran? Only an imbecile-owitz. Fattal and the other two knew better. If they’re living in the torturistan of the Assads (Syria), they knew full well not to go “hiking” in Iran. But they did anyway. Now, Iran and the mothers of these three Islamo-pandering stooges are pushing a “prisoner exchange deal” with the U.S. The Sarkozy idiots in France just did one, last week, releasing an Iranian arms dealer and refusing to extradite him to the U.S. for his criminal nuclear parts purchases (on behalf of Iran), in exchange for some far left French academic who went to Iran (another “tourist” who should have been left to rot there).
And finally, there are Laura Ling and her sister, Lisa Ling. They’ve written a book about Laura Ling’s imprisonment in North Korea. Who told her to go there? If you go to Kim Jong-Il’s antithesis of Wonka World, you know what to expect. You’re gonna be imprisoned and tortured. She chose to go. But, instead of saying: you went at your own risk and you knew the consequences, so there’s nothing we can do, the U.S. did biz with Kim. Bill Clinton was interrupted from his position as Chief Justice of the Hawaiian Tropic bikini contest to negotiate and rescue these two faux-heroines. Now Laura and Lisa Ling’s book is all the rage on Oprah (for whom Lisa Ling reports regular propaganda), People Magazine, and everywhere else.
My favorite headline is the People Magazine blare: “ESCAPE FROM NORTH KOREA.” Um, here’s a tip, People: no one escaped. The U.S. State Department and Bill Clinton repeatedly cajoled and posed to get these two spoiled, whiny women out of North Korea.
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Rene_Holder
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLGWyfGk_LU
All you need is love :)... they say music brings us together
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Rene_Holder
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Rene_Holder
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I was just LOL while reading this... best part for me was “Oh, look, Amber. Check out those charming headscarves. How quaint. Ditto for that ornate beheading knife, which I’m sure is only used on sheep.” Fact is if it’s outside of your job or family situation to be there people need to be aware and take personal responsibility when traveling to places where they is potential for them to be in danger due to social, ethnic, religious, or criminal unrest in that country.
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Rene_Holder:
To behead the sheep or gut it?
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CarlosIsDown:
funny yet odd lol
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WarrenOatesLives
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Buddhism is not a religion. I've traveled most of the world. Although areas are dangerous, "(I would not go backpacking in a war zone) But the fact is neither north Korea or Yemen are open war zones. I really think you are just a big pussy, who likely never get the chance to live a life of adventure. Stop bitching.
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deathmetalbrian
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seriously though, the fact that since it was lisa ling's sister and she works for al gore's network made it so bill fucking clinton got on a plane and went into north korea to secure her release is nauseating. you knew damn well what you were doing laura. your incessant whining is a bunch of bullshit. there's political prisoners locked up all over the world who actually abide by and respect written law that are locked up for their beliefs. laura ling should be fucking ashamed of herself and the fact that she's cashing in on her story w/ tear filled interviews makes me sick.
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adveritas
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I think MizPiz is spot on: There isn't a bit of difference between attention seeking right-winger women (Schlussel, Coulter, Paulin, Rand-Posers) and stand-up comedians who toss up crude sexual jokes purely for their shock value.
Think Ann Coulter telling a young student muslim in Canada to ride a camel. And this women Schlussel daring to to rant about and criticize people who have been kidnapped, and more shockingly about someone who risked their life to be a reporter. Not everyone believes in the two-shaded world of good guys and bad guys that people like this women portray in their blogs in order to be effective and captivating for readers who are completely immature (see curtisreed's "dinga-lings" comment) because she knows they are only looking for some material to vindicate their own pathetic views on the world. And for those of you who think this is funny: you're only getting as stupid as this women already is. Comedians can only shock up until a point when people finally just walk away because it isn't funny or intelligible and it is really really sad and they get to become the one who is blogged and ranted about or banned and petitioned because of their ignorance and lies aimed at corrupting and misleading an audience in flagrant disregard of people's sensitivities and disadvantages that make them easy to manipulate. - 2 years ago
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okay Glen Beck, stop putting your posts up with psuedo names. was there any substance there or did i just read a 3 paragraph diatribe of name calling and despise of people who are trying to extend diplomacy. if we don't meet and learn about other cultures we will never understand them. so anyways Glen, have fun with the hate mongering i prefer to go B.M. instead of talking about this more.
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flyingkick
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I love how all of crystalman's posts get put into Comedy. You can tell his opinion is just regurgitated rhetoric he heard someplace else, because he never responds to people who have done their homework and have the facts. So yeah, Comedy makes sense.
How can you present controversial information and then refuse to debate the topic- especially on a website that not only facilitates but thrives on debate.
Just goes to show how some people develop extremely distorted world-views. They never question anything or reflect on their own thoughts. - 2 years ago
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flyingkick:
is current becoming the twitter of news?
where people just post what they desire to see in print? - 2 years ago
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Added to comedy because it's just some right-wing attention whore bitching about liberals that are getting more attention than her.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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Debbie Schlussel makes money off of hate and lies. For her to criticize real journalists is laughable.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste:
She tells the truth. That upsets you.
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bombastinator
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consider the source here. This woman actually touts here endorsement by Sarah Palin, the politician so stupid that even her runningmate called her a moron.
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bombastinator:
she would have responded to the accusation but no one wrote on her hand what to say
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Zak_Endicott
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however i am pretty sure she was busy sneaking around the border.
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Zak_Endicott
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haha well you got a point but you know, i wanna go hiking in Iran too!!
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zichi:
actualy yes as is bernie goldberg,david horowitz,jackie mason, dick morris.
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CarlosIsDown
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God forbid anyone go and see these "enemy countries" for themselves.
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It's kind of sad, but these are people blinded by their naivety and kind nature. I know, cause I used to date someone like this. When you grow up isolated and anti-establishment, this is what can likely end up happening to you if you venture out into the world, cause no one has ever explained it to you or warned you about it, and you don't believe what you see on TV.
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QuestionGeek:
... yep, sounds like someone who has first hand experience and I agree totally with you. What would the world be like without these people who risk their life to get something out into the open? But, journalists—and authors in general—were not seen to be terribly important in the early beginnings of journalism. If anything, the newspapers were more likely to be associated with the publishing houses rather then the journalist that written for them. The social status of the journalist has reached heights never dreamed of and in my minds eye is today like a runaway train...who knows where it's going to end. These two ladies I have never heard of and are not necessarily respectable—they're certainly not respectable writers but as someone pointed out, recieved and got their world attention! They're not seen as very learned or authoritative people, even though what they did, and stood for truned out to be highly influential without loosing their life or embarassing their respective supporters and publishers. Mission accomplished and now let us see what crazy thing they will try next where as always they could pay the ultimate price.
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fun_size
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So are you ever gonna post news in the news section? We get it your a racist asshole who hates liberals... please stop with the annoying opinion posts already!
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fun_size:
maybe stop giving material to work with?
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Uh, even Vice magazine managed to get to NK. Since when does everyone who goes there get imprisoned? This is a really, really, stupid post.
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-...
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acontradiction:
oh yes Saddam, George Bush Seniors' old late best friend....
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Yes, Vanguard has been to Yemen. There are many stories around the world that our team strives to tell.
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Christof:
Thank You all for your incredible work!
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ezrierin
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I have gone where Angel’s fear to tread. I’m crazy that way, and I am 5 foot 10 inches tall and have 44 DDD’s! I stand out, literally! LOL. BUT, even I am not STUPID enough to go to places like Yemen. Lets hope those guys don’t reproduce. The gene pool deserves a break. As for reporters, in most cases I have never seen such a group of courageous individuals, who risk their live to bring us the story. I am very proud of them.
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ezrierin:
Wow you really love to give out personal information on current. I know more about you than i ever needed to or wanted to know...
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ezrierin:
What about all the Chaos that goes on Israel? Yet what do we see on TV? Ads begging Americans to come to Israel. I don't think it's all this guy's fault that he thinks this way.
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QuestionGeek:
You could be right!
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fun_size:
“Fun-size,” Really? lol! I find that if I can use humor to convey a message, I will use it. I also find laughing at myself to be the best laugh of all. :)
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ezrierin:
Walk tall... Um, figuratively... And literally, slouching is bad, mmm'kay?
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ezrierin:
i hear you, i think it is a sparky sarcastic tone is hard to convey unless you are a writer.
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Almibry:
Giggles!
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HsIV:
Thank you!
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ezrierin:
with those breats you may be treated as a deity in yemen
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QuestionGeek:
those adds are travel agencies, ya know exploiting the dollar not religion, and certainly not war.
just like we see tons af advertisements with ex baseball stars selling trips to itally (where garbage lines the streets) and greece (that might implode while your there) - 2 years ago
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acontradiction:
So true, speak out against the status quo, and you become expendable.
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acontradiction:
i couldn't get past the freedom of speech part. who on current works for the federal government? dumb ass unless you are talking to a federal agent you DON'T have the right to say what ever you want. don't think i am right go to a movie theater and scream fire. freedom of speech right.
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SHUT THE FUG UP WITH YOUR FACTS!
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acontradiction:
You're confused about how freedom of speech works.
Freedom of speech rights only apply on public property. Current is private property. Hence- no one who posts on Current has freedom of speech rights. They can censor or ban whoever they want. Just like you can kick anyone you want out of your house.Also, they went to Korea to expose information, that's what journalists do. Sometimes the information is just entertaining, sometimes it's enlightening, and sometimes it affects change.
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HsIV:
ok it was a joke y'all
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acontradiction:
watch this
fuck current and those liberal dicksucks that support them.
still here
and may god strike me dead
still here
violate terms of service and your booted
saying liberals are wrong or current is wrong isnt in violationbut that teacher hates me mom thats why im failing it cant be my fault...............
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HsIV:
wow the prohabition to create pandimonium bothers you.
i personaly like living in a peacefull society but hey thats just me - 2 years ago
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acontradiction:
like paul watson?
or martin luther king?
or rosa parks?
or bill clinton flying to nk?
or al gore being environment all day?
or micheal moore?
or peta?
or alf?
or greenpeace?
or live aide?
or we are the world?
or bono fixing all things african?
or barack obama breaking the color barrier?
or healthcare?
or social security?
or medicare?
yeah those liberals never do anything.
thank go the conservatives did such a bang up job the last 8 years left to thier own devices sans regulation. - 2 years ago
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and laura ling didnt go into north korea she was in the demilitarized zone. dumbass.
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acontradiction:
Sorry, but you could at least pay attention to a situation before building strong opinions about it.
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acontradiction:
so nk is crazy and they story is about how badly defectors are treated.
being as they arent korean or trying to defect to china how were they looking for trouble?
even iran doesnt give you 20 yrs hard labor for a 2 minute escapade over thier border - 2 years ago
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llamamuffins:
u rule
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i'd like to see how this guy would feel if it were him imprisoned...wether he would be like "hey its my fault i got kidnapped so i deserve to be tortured and rot here" or if he would be crying like a little bitch for the U.S to come save him.
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acontradiction:
like reagan did with the iran contra scandal?
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This is retarded
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Yes you should be watching more Oprah to get their perspective. Dumb article to cover thouroughly dumbo size idiots.
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acontradiction:
so you are for action without before a plan for victory?
good to see ya bush i wondered what you have been up to since that whole 2 wars thing.you mean enough with political correct or enough with the institution of diplomacy over war?
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zichi:
zing
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Ok the Lings weren't tourists. Picture changed.
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It may not be a good idea to go to Yemen, but it's inexcusable to legitimize people calling for the death of anyone.
Also, JEWS?! 9/11?! COINCIDENCE?! I THINK NOT!!!
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crispyfritters:
thats my fav one
i used to be partial to jews have horns but heavy metal took the satan deal from us.the no jews died in 9-11 is my favorite insanity
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This isn't the first time that Vanguard went to Yemen... I think it would have been smarter to send the Navy SEALs again, but that's just me, and hey, it's ALOT more interesting when someone almost dies!
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Almibry:
-1?
You're saying I'm wrong?
It would have been stupid to send people with military training to an area that dangerous?
And the story didn't get more interesting after they were kidnapped?
Well, then... I stand corrected because popularity is truth. - 2 years ago
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Almibry:
dooshbags
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Almibry:
My geography may suck, but the principle is the same.
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Almibry:
i always love your comments.
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HsIV:
Thank you.
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alexandrek:
Yes. I'm plural on the inside.
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Almibry:
i want you to be more active woman!
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Almibry:
did you just go toe to toe with yourself?
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Almibry:
After thinking about it for a few minutes, I can see that Vanguard knew what they were doing. If I were North Korea, I wouldn't want anyone that intimidating near my boarders and if I caught them I wouldn't let them go either. I humbly beg your forgiveness Great and Powerful Vanguard. I'm simple minded and frequently get caught up in a Rambo-fetish-like state.
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HsIV:
So do I.
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freecrack:
It happens too often to be healthy.
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Almibry:
its allgood im just curious who won the debate you or you
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freecrack:
Well, there WAS a ceasefire but we(you) broke it.
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Almibry:
well i support you and will help you in any way i can to defeat you and what you stand for.
i really hope you win - 2 years ago
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freecrack:
You mean me right? AAAGHHHH! You're plural too!?
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You need a serious reality check. 1) They didn't GO to North Korea, they went to China, and were standing on a frozen river that created the border between the two countries when Laura Ling and Euna Lee were captured. 2) "Spoiled, whiny women" is definitely NOT the words to describe Laura and Euna. They were not allowed to communicate with the outside world, let alone each other, so they certainly did no complaining, they were just scared that they would not see their families and friends for 12 years (Their time sentenced to a North Korean labor camp). 3) Laura and Euna, working for Current's Vanguard show, were trying to shed light on a very serious issue about how North Korean defectors (mainly women) are targeted and exploited when they escape from North Korea to China. No one "told her to go there" against her will. 4) "Dumbass Jew"? "imbecile-owitz"? Anti-semitism, much?
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gem7007:
shit you got served!
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it's seriously fucked up to use their picture to represent "stupid tourists." the hikers and everyone else are separate from laura's work!
no respectable Current member posts this shit and how the hell does it make it in to the top 10? i don't even like that this is here on the site.
did you at all listen to every bit of her story when she told it? do you realize that it was never her and euna's intention? did you at all notice the parts about their guide who led them over there? and have you even seen any of the other dangerous or extremely courageous work that she and the whole Vanguard team does to bring us crucial awareness to a lot of really intense, unknown issues!!
i don't think they were using any kind of "we're American" bullshit, they know North Korea and they just wanted to be freed.
they weren't attempting to bring us knowledge about North Korea, if she wasn't captured you would know all about her story. just people trying to escape to a better environment into china by crossing a river (sound familiar?), only the circumstances are way harsher than any other region on earth!
this is nothing but wrong when you have a person from Current that you're trying to place in the same category as ignorant tourists on their own journey, whereas Laura was doing her job! a diffcult job, but risky and necessary.
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pandaman2105:
Thats right!!
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You's STILL trollin.
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chinese_democracy
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I disagree with you almost all of the time Crystalman... but I do agree on this subject.
It's such a waste when we have to spend American diplomacy or possibly the lives of armed forces to save people like this.
I don't appreciate the author's assumption that they are "Muslims, themselves, or really, really delusional left-wingers" but I cant expect to see a post from you where the partisan rantings don't bubble to the surface...
Laura and Lisa Ling are another matter. Controversial reporting should never be discouraged. They risked their lives to bring you knowledge. - 2 years ago
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chinese_democracy:
And what knowledge did they bring? That N Korea is a nasty tyranny where dissent is crushed and information is controlled. OOh I didn't know that.
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chinese_democracy:
controversial reporting? what was controversial about reporting on christian groups that were helping north koreans defect? sensational? perhaps. put innocent people in danger? sure did. wise? not hardly.
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crystalman:
Crystlaman there are a lot of dumb people out there and the more news that's reported on the atrocities committed by the North Korean government the better. Personally I'd rather hear about how bad the North Korean government is from Current than some bullshit MSM outlet.
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crystalman:
"And what knowledge did they bring? That N Korea is a nasty tyranny where dissent is crushed and information is controlled. OOh I didn't know that."
Perhaps we should shut down all media outlets and replace them with text proclaiming "Some shit happened today."
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curtisreed:
You're right, Americans are not interested in North Korea.
Yes lets stick to the important news like "Where is keyboard cat now?" and "The latest report on Kim Kardashian's ass" - 2 years ago
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word up.
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LOL! Good post and my sentiments exactly. Anyone stupid or naive enough to go to any of these countries of their own free will shouldn't expect help getting out. And they always whine "But we're Americans" like THAT'S suppose to make whatever they do alright. Idiots. I hope the folks who continually bash the evil USA read the books.
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2helenahandbasket
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2hellnwait
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Romancing the terrorists. . . oh what fun.
It is absolutely amazing to me that damned near all progressives simply are unable to comprehend totalitarianism and the hatred which all such regimes have toward those of a free society. - - they. just. don't. get. it. - 2 years ago
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2hellnwait
