Glenn Greenwald Clobbers Eliot Spitzer in Debate on the Gaza Flotilla | | AlterNet
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June 3, 2010 |
You don’t often get a piece of cable TV this good, so it’s worth transcribing and posting in its entirety.
Yesterday, two Netanyahu propagandists appeared on MSNBC prior to Glenn Greenwald, painting a picture of the flotilla raid that was so grossly distorted it was unrecognizable as the incident that is being rightfully condemned around the world. Host Eliot Spitzer vigorously agreed with them, and then brought them back once again to counter Glenn after his appearance.
Spitzer was not nearly so conciliatory with Glenn, and during the interview, clips of the selectively edited IDF propaganda videos and their helpful English subtitles played continuously. In a rare and contentious eight minute cable news segment, Glenn decided to set the record straight:
ELIOT SPITZER: Now let’s bring in Glenn Greenwald from Salon.com who calls Israel’s actions quote, “heinous and repugnant” and, well let me just ask you, you have ships approaching Gaza, controlled by Hamas; Hamas is a terrorist organization, Israel did (I don’t think this is disputed) offer to have the ships inspected, if there was no contraband on board, let the ships continue on to Gaza. Why was that not a reasonable offer, why should Israel not intercede to stop the flow of contraband?
GLENN GREENWALD: Well, first of all, international waters, which is where this ship was, is not owned by Israel. It is a crime, a war crime, to attack a ship in international waters that has not engaged in any aggression, and no one claims that these ships were. I mean, what you’re describing is absolute anarchy, that any country can just say, “no ships can go here, and if you disobey our order, we’re going to attack you, board your ship forcefully, and kill anybody who does resist.”
SPITZER: Well, let me interr…
GREENWALD: No, let me just finish because you just had on 10 minutes of uninterrupted pro-Israeli propaganda filled with falsehoods. The blockade is one of the most brutal and inhumane blockades that we’ve seen in the last generation. Look at UN reports that are objective, not Netanyahu aides, that say that 60% of the babies in Palestine have anemia, 65% of the population is food insecure; the entire Palestinian economy has collapsed as a result of this blockade. Israel routinely refuses to permit all sorts of imports including food, chocolate, french fries, anything but the barest necessities to keep those prisoners — which is what they are — alive…
SPITZER: Glenn, I hear you. Hold on one second. Let’s go back to Ruth Wedgewood, who is really a top-flight intellect and scholar of international law, said that nations that are a war are permitted in international water to enforce a blockade and to check to see if contraband is on board. Now, nobody has said that Israel has prevented humanitarian materials to flow through to Gaza. You may be saying there’s not enough…
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bailey78
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Eliot Spitzer is a putz.
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datamined
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The Free Gaza organization is not recognized as a non-profit organization in America, and thus cannot give tax exemptions on donations. However, the group's website states that donors may make tax-deductible donations to the American Educational Trust – a recognized group – and earmark them for Free Gaza, thus allowing the group to provide tax deductions without proving its non-profit credentials.
This is a violation of American tax law. Please email the IRS.
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acontradiction:
The State of Israel is a terrorist organization and should be labeled as one by the international community including the United States.
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freecrack
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Monkey_Films:
sure well get right on that, as we do worse than israel but sure why not
how many jews strapping explosives to themselves again?just curious?
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freecrack
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frodis
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So funny how you guys hate religion but love radical Islam. Why is that? Is it the fear they instill in you guys by the threats? Is it how they keep women as hostages? Is that your forte? I think it's the fear.
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frodis
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treewolf39
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frodis:
Who are you guys? I want to laugh with you.
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treewolf39
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treewolf39: This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
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treewolf39
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acontradiction:
Oh that is why the most watched hyper news is Fox. What about all the christen libs? Hey this could be a new current game. We will stuff people in boxes and label them just right, or left. Then we will know everything about them!
Give me a break! The only people who love radical Islam are the Christen neo-cons. It gives them a reason to exist.
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treewolf39
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freecrack
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frodis:
wich guys.?
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freecrack
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freecrack
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treewolf39:
well said
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freecrack
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Incredulous
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oh well, this clears everything up....NOT
Spitzer comes off as a tool, nothing new there.
Glen Greenwald makes the one indisputable point:"The blockade is one of the most brutal and inhumane blockades that we’ve seen in the last generation."
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Incredulous
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freecrack
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Incredulous:
really?blocking the st louis wasnt horrible?
rwanda wasnt worse?
chad closing its borders isnt worse?
kim jong ill staving his people to death not worse?
i mean there are a whole lot of people across the world being trapped into a destitude life while gazans are proliferating and actually have more freedoms than most arab countries, like the right to vote, and keep the digit they voted with. - 1 year ago
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treewolf39
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Thanks for the post. Normally I like what Elliot Spitzer has to say.
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futuregen
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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/3/huwaida
"AMY GOODMAN: Colonel Wright, I wanted to get your response to Vice President Biden. He was on the Charlie Rose show last night, and he was questioning what the big deal was getting this humanitarian aid directly to Gaza. This is the Vice President.
VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: You can argue whether Israel should have dropped people onto that ship or not, but the truth of the matter is, Israel has a right to know—they’re at war with Hamas—has a right to know whether or not arms are being smuggled in. And up to now, Charlie, what’s happened? They’ve said, “Here you go. You’re in the Mediterranean. This ship, if you divert slightly north, you can unload it, and we’ll get the stuff into Gaza.” So what’s the big deal here? What’s the big deal of insisting it go straight to Gaza? Well, it’s legitimate for Israel to say, “I don’t know what’s on that ship. These guys are dropping eight—3,000 rockets on my people.”
AMY GOODMAN: That was Vice President Biden last night. Colonel Ann Wright, your response?
ANN WRIGHT: Well, I think our vice president needs to take another look at this thing. The ships were open to inspection beforehand, and I’m quite sure Mossad had their little agents that were all over that place. These groups are humanitarian groups that are bringing in goods that are needed for the people of Gaza. They’ve had plenty of inspections on them. "
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futuregen
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futuregen:
Biden is a confessed Zionist. Referring to Americans he said, "We are all Zionists".
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treewolf39:
in the most broadest meaning of zionism we are by being an allie, but thats a broad statement.
there is a big difference at believing israel has a right to exist, and believing god dictates that right - 1 year ago
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