Female school Teacher Sentenced For Being Sexual Predator
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A judge in Tampa, Florida, on Monday sentenced Stephanie Ragusa, a former middle school math teacher, to 10 years in prison for having sex with two underage students in 2008.
"As parents, we place our trust in teachers to provide a safe environment in which our children can learn," Hillsborough County Circuit Judge Chet Tharpe said in handing down the sentence. "You violated that trust in the worst imaginable way."
Tharpe also sentenced Ragusa to 15 years of sex offender probation following her prison time.
Ragusa, 31, pleaded guilty in April to three counts of lewd and lascivious battery in a March 2008 case involving a 14-year-old boy, and two counts of having unlawful sex with a minor in an April 2008 case involving a 16-year-old student.
Ragusa has been in jail since she was arrested in 2008 leaving one of the victims' homes.Monday's sentencing included testimony from the victims' families, who depicted Ragusa as a sexual predator who caused severe emotional distress for their
"Miss Ragusa maliciously and intently preyed on my son and the other boys," said the mother of the 14-year-old victim. "She had access to their charts as far as their emotional behaviors. ... I feel that she was very conniving ... in picking these boys out and preying on them and using that to manipulate them and seduce them."
Prosecutor Rita Peters also... for full story click here http://www.waneenterprises.com/news/502 Did she get off light ??
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unclepete813
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i say no more, But its alot of teachers in my hometown hooking up. Thats that Tampa Bay Heat. places where its hot its more of a sexual community and we on fire, ask how I know? I use to pimp some of them lol peace out.
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unclepete813
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Admirable
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I know very few 14 year old boys that are a match for a college educated 31 year old woman. I doubt that it is looked upon as just a one night stand. The potential for ongoing manipulation with sex or the possibility of pregnancy is just too much for most boys of that age to comprehend. The effects of the relationship would probably be long lasting and adversely influence decision making. It would probably have a negative affect on the young persons life. Young men and women of that age are just not equipped emotionally or mature enough to deal with all aspects of this type of relationship.
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cztheday
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I realize that by now this thread is -- or should be -- dead-ended. Personally, I think the logic of Alimbry's position is unassailable. UtopianSky also makes excellent points. My personal experience (and I suspect the personal experience of most of the men -- and women -- on this thread) is that once a man and a woman are alone together, the woman's sexual appetites are little different from the man's, as Alimbry has suggested. Women are simply taught not to be as open about their feelings in that regard, as UtopianSky has noted.
But there is another issue here that I don't know if anybody else has raised. That issue is whether this teacher's conduct has negative connotations with respect to other teachers and other students. The question arises as to whether teachers in that school and in other schools will now be either trusted less or will become the target of their students' sexual advances. Will some students come to fear that they might be the target of some other teacher's (or teachers') advances? Will these kinds of feelings harm the overall learning environment? I would submit that this teacher has done a disservice far beyond these two particular boys.
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cztheday
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UtopianSky
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In my opinion, statuary rape laws should be overhauled.
sex with anyone under 14 should be illegal, period.
Sex over 18 is fine, with consent, of course.For those four years in-between, each occurrence should be looked at on a case by case basis. If it is obvious that there is no coercion, no manipulation, and everyone involved was consenting, no problem. Also, the older person should not be more than 10 years older, max.
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dave_369
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My teachers were all 70, wrinkled and shrew like, dang.
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Wizzane
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dave_369:
Same here.
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Wizzane
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xiola
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Oh! I just found an article about exactly this!: "The Siren Song of Sex With Boys"
"WHEN Sandra Beth Geisel, a former Catholic schoolteacher, was sentenced to six months in jail last month for having sex with a 16-year-old student, she received sympathy from a surprising source. The judge, Stephen Herrick of Albany County Court in New York, told her she had "crossed the line" into "totally unacceptable" behavior. But, he added, the teenager was a victim in only the strictly legal sense. "He was certainly not victimized by you in any other sense of the word," the judge said. The prosecutor and a lawyer for the boy's family called the judge's comments outrageous. But is it possible that the 16-year-old wasn't really harmed?"
It's an interesting article. Click link to continue: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/weekinreview/11zern.html
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xiola
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xiola
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Thought this was relevant to this discussion: A lawyer answers a question on statutory rape.
Question: " I am a 27 year old female, who has been charged with 3rd degree rape. I was a foster parent, and one of the boys I was keeping (who was 14 a couple months from being 15), kept making sexual advances towards me. I have been going to mental health provider for a few years, and was on several medications. The thing is, I was out of a couple of my meds, and had been for a while. I wasn't quite myself. I am diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and bipolar. "
Follow the link for the answer:
http://criminal.lawyers.com/ask-a-lawyer/Statutory-Rape-Intent-Not-Required-6841...
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xiola
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Omnomynous
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I'm usually not a big fan of religion but I must say; the Jews have it figured.
There is a good reason Jewish boys have a bahmitzva, and in many cases their first sexual experiences with a trained professional. Because to many young dumb virgin-esque guys end up getting laid and falling in love with, having children with less than decent women.
If a teenage guy has a good pre exposure to things like sex, maybe even an unappreciated slightly traumatic experience with sex, he will be far less prone, to knocking up any run of the mill skank..
So, thank you teacher for proving to these poor defenseless youths that you and many other women aren't worth the effort.
You have saved them much pain and child support payments in the future.
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mili_623
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I live in FL the truth is this is becomeing the norm. Its hard to turn on the tv without hearing the student and teachers having sex storys. The only reason Regusa's case has atracted so much publisity is because she was always smiling about it.
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mili_623:
No kidding. I lived in Tampa when Debra Beasley LaFave had her little thing going on.
Of course, I also don't think the boys she played with were particularly traumatized and were rather envied by the teens in the area.
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remanns
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p.s. .........and this was probably a RUSH JOB !!!!
( don't do the crime,.....if you cant spend the time. ) - 1 year ago
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remanns
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Hot female teachers should really not get caught having sex with horny young male school boys. Yep. We have really nailed that down.
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remanns:
It is still safe for them to go after the baby sitter right?
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looncanada
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Stephanie Ragusa NOT as shown in the tacky canned photo pasted in this post as a teaser.
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looncanada
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curtisreed
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looncanada:
you are right, she's not.
so who is the mystery tramp in the photo? inquiring minds wanna know
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curtisreed
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cztheday
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The issue of whether or not these particular boys were sufficiently mature to engage in sexual relations with a much older woman are irrelevant to a charge of statutory rape. Indeed, the entire pupose of STATUTORY rape is to establish a bright line rule so that judges and/or juries are not called upon to engage in thousands of determinations each year as to the the relative maturity of the particular minor in each case. As a society, we have determined that the vast majority of children below a certain age are incapable of handling the emotional and psychological consequences of sexual relations with an adult.
Therefore the question of whether these boys may have fantasized about having sex with this teacher (or any other teacher) is not germaine. I find the argument that the punishment should be reduced for this teacher "because these were boys and all boys have such fantasies" to be particularly amusing.
While I can only speak from the knowledge I have gained talking to the women in my life over the years, my sense is that girls tend to fantasize a good deal more than boys do -- fantasies in which sex takes a more or less prominent role. In my experience, context (such as the setting of a particular fantasy) is much more important to females than to males when it comes to sex. Hence the old saying that "women need a reason to have sex while men just need a place."
But the fact that young girls may engage in all kinds of fantasies about older men does not make the statutory rape of such girls by older men acceptable, and it is not acceptable when the genders are reversed. We can't know how these experiences will affect these particular boys for the rest of their lives...but because of the precise definition of statutory rape, we don't have to know. The law assumes that despite whatever pleasure the boys may have enjoyed during the act itself, the long-term negative effects will far outweigh that momentary enjoyment. Thus the adult is asked to pay for that damage with his or her freedom for an extended period of time. Works for me.
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cztheday:
wrong about the frequencyof sexual fantasies
from the Kinsey Institute studies:
54% of men think about sex everyday or several times a day, 43% a few times per month or a few times per week, and 4% less than once a month (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).
19% of women think about sex everyday or several times a day, 67% a few times per month or a few times per week, and 14% less than once a month (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994).Percent of population having had first intercourse, by age
Males Females
25% by age 15 26% by age 15
37% by age 16 40% by age 16
46% by age 17 49% by age 17
62% by age 18 70% by age 18
69% by age 19 77% by age 19
85% by age 20-21 81% by age 20-21
89% by age 22-24 92% by age 22-24so clearly 1/4 of the males are having sex by age 15, and 26% of females (the sluts!).
I can just imagine how many of those boys were having sex with older girls...and were all severly traumatized by it.
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curtisreed:
and everybody else: I had sex with my girl friend when we were 15. They threw her in jail and had me quit high school to join the air force.
I knew a gal who had sex when she was 17 and was forced into a convent.
So, perhaps statutory rape laws can be abused - yes? Perhaps it isn't all so well thought out.
Perhaps the "adults" who make up laws and do the dishing out - aren't all that smart.
Perhaps rules and laws don't fit every circumstance.
But then life would be so rough if people had to think for themselves a little, sometimes. No rules and no great minds holding and dispensing grand authority is such a scary idea. All the little people trembling so.
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curtisreed:
Apples and oranges, Curtis. "thinking about sex" is not the same thing as "fantasizing about sex." When my wife whispers a promise in my ear as I leave for the office in the morning, I may "think about sex" a dozen times that day in anticipation, but I may only "fantasize" once or twice about how I would like the evening to progress.
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curtisreed:
Those studies only reflect people's willingness to open up and be honest about their feelings.
Boys are told they are horn dogs, so will freely admit to being horn dogs.
Girls are told that if you want sex, you are a slut or a nymphomaniac, so they are not as willing to be open about how they feel.
Same goes for the first time- out culture TELLS boys to pursue girls, and TELLS girls to reject their advances. Those are not natural instincts- as we can see now, in how teen behavior has changed.
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Wow, there sure is a lot debate here over such a simple transgression.
The bottom line is this: We send our children to school to learn subjects other than sex between children and adults. Sex between children and adults has been determined to be unhealthy and being entirely unnecessary, thus should never occur. Sending children to school presents a risk; one in which deserves protection not only to the child, but also the teacher, the school, and the state itself. Therefore, when it happens there should be swift and severe measures to prevent such transgressions from occurring again.
Having said that, I believe it is difficult for people to come to grips with the reality of pedophilia. When it happens we assign blame to the adult (perhaps being the more responsible, we assume) and call it perversion. To the child we call it curiosity.
These are loaded words depending on perspective. From the perspective of both indulging parties it is merely desire, and there can be some argument that it is natural desire.
I think our failing here is to come to grips with and to acknowledge and agree to the situation before pedophilia incidents occur. That is this: Letting nature take place is not what we're shooting for here. We're shooting for healthy children.
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thedirtman:
Exactly. This is why this woman committed a crime. We are shooting for healthy children who can function to the best of there ability's in today's society. Not letting nature take its course.
Teachers have an obligation and a duty to protect our children from harm and educate our children about the topics we approve of as a people and a society.
It doesn't matter if the boys were not traumatized, if the parents are hamming the situation up. It doesn't matter if the boys enjoyed the experience, if they encouraged it and pursued it. It doesn't matter if males are fundamentally different than females at this stage in there life. It doesn't matter if every guy here wishs he too had nailed his math teacher in high school.
It's still a crime in our society. There is standard to uphold. Every boy is not the same. What may empower most boys might horribly damage a few. Cliche as a it is, it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to the safety and healthy upbringing of our children.
It seems difficult for our society to accept that males and females are vastly different in every way but still completely equal at the same time. Acceptance of this becomes even more difficult to reconcile if the law is applied differently to males than to females.
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NO YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!!!!!!
http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID7403/images/resized_6.jpg
she is hot all her students would have been wacing off about her every night! if i hit that when i was at school i would have never stopped high fiving myself. - 1 year ago
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curtisreed
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fatmonkey85:
but don't you think you'd need therapy to get over the trauma?
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curtisreed
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As the old saying goes, 'It takes two to tango'.
Just cause these students are young they get relived of all responsibility? BULLSHIT! These kids could have refused at any point to have sex, but they made the conscious decision to go ahead with it.
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curtisreed
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Christopher_Brown:
and I suspect that any "trauma" they are experiencing is due to the reaction of the people investigating and making them feel horrible about having "allowed themselves to be victimized" by that good looking teacher.
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curtisreed
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stolenapples
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The picture puzzles me, is that her?
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teller_of_tales
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Nowadays teenagers are quite sharp. They should be punished as well.
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controlusplease
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Honestly, what heterosexual guy would'nt let the chick in the picture above... "sexually abuse" them?
Alright, jokes aside...
It's funny how this still happens. It makes me think, has this been going on since schools have been around, or are "student-teacher relations" a relatively new subject. We only really started hearing about this in the 90's, as far as I can recall. Has today's advanced media and PC attitude contributed to this happening... or has it just merely exposed it.
We've all heard about the perverted male teacher abusing female students, bu recently we've been hearing more of the female teacher as the culprit.
Any opinions?
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controlusplease:
my guess is that it's been happening all along, and people are just now tuning in.
and since with the PC movement in full swing, you can't differentiate between something done wrong to a girl vs something done to a boy and decide if it should be treated differently or the same...the common misconception is that male and female psychology is the same, the crime is the same, the victimization is the same, so the outrage must be the same.
I personally think that's a bunch of horse hockey, but you can see by scrolling down how that is met with such derision
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curtisreed:
Yeah no kidding. All i said is that i doubt most teenage boys would be traumatized by sex with a hot teacher and ive been voted down to -5 and called all sorts of names!
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fun_size:
well, it's so easy to see why! everyone knows that teenage boys are sensitve creatures who are more into relationships, talking, sharing their feelings, and being loved. Boys really just want to play with dolls, knit, shop for shoes...just like the girls!
teen boys are NOT into sex, they are EXACTLY like girls in every way.
the Current geniuses have discovered that it's boys who have vagina envy, and not girls having penis envy.
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curtisreed
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ten years of getting letters from students all over the US..
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wow sex with a teacher... every teenage boys fantasy until mom finds out lol
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cclark_productions:
now now, you are forbidden to speak the obvious truth on Current, because it is NOT PC.
careful, or you too will be the victim of a mob attack by the PC Nazis.
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curtisreed
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flyingkick
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Wow, logic fail on this thread.
Teachers should not be having sex with students, period.
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flyingkick:
Voted up.
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flyingkick:
+^'d
I'm sure that works way better than my method, but I've never been very tactful unless I absolutely HAVE to be.
Hahaha, I still think way too many people are wearing their stupid hats today. - 1 year ago
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Einsam_Data_Old:
If that's how you want to see it. -V'd If you breath through your nose, your visor won't fog up.
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flyingkick:
Teachers should not be having sex with students, unless the teacher is super effin' hot.
Fix'd.
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Almibry:
what the hell is that supposed to mean? what exactly de AV say that deserved a snarky reply?
i guess you're just V- happy today - 1 year ago
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coleman89:
OR the student is really FN desperate.
but you have been NAUGHTY for posting that. you need a timeout
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ArchDruid:
Yes, the double standard alone is amazing, and reflects a really ugly and ignorant sexism.
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ArchDruid:
No, there would be no comments on a thread like that because it's extremely unlikely a thread like that would ever be posted here. I've only ever seen the female teacher with the male student stories at Current and every time one of these stories hits the news, it's posted on Current so the Neanderthals have something to talk about.
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unimatrix0:
i dont think it's just sexism, it think it's goes deeper in the way human beings evolved. back when we weren't ruling the world, we gave more care to the young females because naturally they were the life of our race and well the men were there to protect them and ensure their safety. So i think it's not immaturity (though sometimes the latter) but it really how we're wired...
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unimatrix0:
"male psychology is different from female psychology"
"SEXIST!"you're living in a PC fantasy world.
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NaCl:
the fact that this very benign comment got voted down TWICE just shows what a bunch of PC extremists we have on Current.
I think it's a bit more complicated than that, and goes back to evolutionary instincts, and the kinds of consequences to the act. For males, sexual promiscuity and sexual prowess gives them an evolutionary advantage to spread the genes. This is seen not only in humans but in many other mammals, from primates to canines and felines and others.
Females have to be more selective, and they have to expend great amounts of energy to carry andnurture the young.
so the meaning of sexual intercourse is very different and that has affected how they view it and how they react emotionally from it.
the new PC feminist view attempts to try to erase any biological or psychological differences between men and women. and that's the key to the reactionary anger from the PC crowd here.
"How dare you say that a teen boy who has a casual sexual encounter with an older woman is less likely to be traumatized by it than a teen girl who has a casual sexual encounter with an older man!" Remember, you're ONLY allowed to say that men and women are the same!
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curtisreed:
You are a simpleton who cannot escape your ignorant, dated, sexist stereotypes.
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NaCl:
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curtisreed:
Fair points. +^d
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unimatrix0:
as usual, you can do nothing but name call. that's all you've done here.
and THAT is the sign of a simpleton
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curtisreed:
exatcly
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ArchDruid:
I agree with Stever_B: It would just be too awkward for people to deal with, too awkward for them to get the courage to post the story to begin with, too awkward for anyone to say anything more than "Gee, that sucks". People would agree that it was horrible, because it's socially acceptable for a girl to be victimized, but it would be too painful to try to actually understand it.
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curtisreed:
You're living in the 1950's
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curtisreed:
There is evidence of sexual promiscuity in female primates as well. Female mates do not bond for life while the males can screw whoever. It is thought that the females mate with as many males as possible because the males they mate with are less likely to kill their offspring and are more likely to protect the female from outside threats after mating with her. Yes, they spend a great deal of energy to birth and raise a baby, but they are not always able to get pregnant and after they are pregnant it doesn't matter how much sperm goes in, the job is already done. Their goal is just like the males, to produce as many healthy young as possible.
"'How dare you say that a teen boy who has a casual sexual encounter with an older woman is less likely to be traumatized by it than a teen girl who has a casual sexual encounter with an older man!' Remember, you're ONLY allowed to say that men and women are the same!"
We're allowed to say that because they are similar. - 1 year ago
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Shout out to Almibry, xiola, and cztheday, at least three community members who have some ability to discern criminal sexual abuse and moral depravity.
Those of you who try to justify this women's behavior reveal a disturbing moral lacunae.
There is no excuse for sexually molesting a child.
Many of the comments on this thread reveal a serious psycho-sexual dysfunction, a lack of moral judgement, and a flagrant sexism that is deeply pernicious, revealing an emotionally shallow naiveté.
In short, I find the discussion misguided, disappointing and juvenile.
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unimatrix0:
Hows the view from up there from your high horse?
No seriously though its one thing to disagree with other peoples opinions but its another thing altogether to bad mouth nearly everyone who posted on this article. Im sorry but what makes you so perfect? Everyone is entitled to their opinion... whether you like it or not.
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fun_size:
gotta give it to you there. too bad we'll never hear what the "victims" have to say about this. at age 16 most men were married in the past.
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fun_size:
How is the view from the gutter?
No seriously, it is one thing to have an opinion, but to justify child abuse is disgusting. I'm sorry but what makes you think it is OK for adults to sexually abuse children? It doesn't matter what your "opinion" is, abusing children is wrong.
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unimatrix0:
Well said.
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Nephwrack:
Here you go, an article found by xiola: http://abcnews.go.com/US/teacher-stephanie-ragusa-sentenced-10-years-sex-student...
"He has dealt with a lot of guilt," she said. "He feels that it was his fault that all of this is happening. He blames himself. He does not think it's funny. He's not bragging or boasting. He actually gets very offended at any type of taunting. … He suffers from depression, from being shy. He even got to the point where he became aggressive with everything, just wanting this all to go away."
The 14-year-old had been assigned to push Ragusa's wheelchair around school after she broke her foot. She told him he seemed shy and that she could help him overcome that, authorities said. The two had sex that afternoon in her apartment, the first of three sexual encounters authorities said spanned the school year that ended in May 2007.There's nothing on the emotional state of the older boy.
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fun_size:
Opinion?
There is no justification for an adult to have sex with a child. Male, female, straight, gay, supposedly consensual or not -- there is no justification for it and in a civilized world, there is no "opinion" about it.
When you and a few others in here are old enough to stop thinking with their dicks, you'll hopefully realize that there really isn't anything cute, funny, or hot about this story. It's only disgusting and sad.
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Almibry:
there's something fishy about this part of the page...it says he's angry about it, but then says that there were """three"""" separate encounters... if he didn't like it then why did he go back a second or third time???? i think he's mad that she got caught....
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NaCl:
Kids are stupid. They can and will put up with abuse for years.
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Almibry:
Yeah.Exactly. Especially when a trusted authority figure tells them it's the right thing to do... tells them it will fix their shyness or whatever. Newsflash: Children are impressionable.
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xiola
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NaCl
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Almibry:
not the kids i know, they're relatively bright...you underestimate them greatly...
- 1 year ago
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NaCl
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NaCl
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xiola:
that's right "children" are impressionable this boy's a teenager... he's 4 years from adulthood...
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NaCl
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unimatrix0:
..the kid was 16. You act like he was ignorant about what was happening. This wasn't molestation, it was scoring with a hot teacher.
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coleman89
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coleman89
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NaCl:
Exactly...
- 1 year ago
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coleman89
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keithponder
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fun_size:
how's the smell down in that shithole that you live in ?
- 1 year ago
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keithponder
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keithponder
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NaCl:
just because 21 makes you legal doesn't mean a damn thing. most people don't start to grasp and understand the full meaning of maturity until their at least 30 years old.
we should know better at 21, but how many of us really do ?
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keithponder
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keithponder
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coleman89:
he didn't understand the consequences. teenagers seldom do.
vote down.
- 1 year ago
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keithponder
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xiola
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NaCl:
One of the boys was 14. A lot of development, both mental and physical, happens in those next several years before adulthood. Are you saying he's practically an adult? Are you saying 14-year-olds aren't impressionable? If so, I'll just have to respectfully disagree with you.
- 1 year ago
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xiola
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xiola
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coleman89:
One of the kids was 14 with emotional and social problems. Just to clarify.
- 1 year ago
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xiola
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NaCl
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keithponder:
if it doesn't really mean anything then why is it the government approved age to adulthood???
- 1 year ago
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NaCl
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NaCl
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xiola:
no, just not impressionable in the way you're implying....
- 1 year ago
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NaCl
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keithponder
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NaCl:
THEY CAN START HOLDING YOU TO ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR TAXES AT 21 FOR STARTERS. They can start holding you legally responsible for your behaivor, and again,... tax you and bill you for your illegal behavior. So on and so on...
That's a duh.. question
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keithponder
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unimatrix0
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coleman89:
one of the kids was 14
and you act like sexual abuse is OK if the abuser is attractive
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unimatrix0
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curtisreed
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unimatrix0:
"I find the discussion misguided, disappointing and juvenile"
then piss off. Who invited you?in the first place, you've demonstrated a pathetically retarded reading comprehension skill, often misconstruing comments and often perverting the intent and content completely, and then crowing about how you are morally superior.
I don't think there is anyone here who has said that what the teacher did was "right", or "ok" or "not criminal". You've pulled that out of your ASS.
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curtisreed
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Almibry:
I wonder what could have made him feel so guilty.
- 1 year ago
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curtisreed
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curtisreed
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Almibry:
OR...he enjoyed the encounter and didn't feel guilty about it until after people like...like...well, like YOU made him feel guilty about having had the encounter.
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curtisreed
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fun_size
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unimatrix0:
Find me one post where i justified this woman's actions. No its ok ill save you the time because i never supported what she did. Not only is it abuse of her position, its also statutory rape.
All i asked was if her students were harmed by the experience. I sincerely doubt that they were because i know from previous experience as a 15 year old boy that i wouldve jumped at the chance to have sex with my hot math teacher.
edit: I just noticed Alimbry's post. If its true that the student was negatively affected by this then my apologies. It sounds like the teacher took advantage of a shy kid who pushed her around when she was in a wheelchair. That is not ok.
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fun_size
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Stever_B:
I didnt justify sex with minors. Not by a longshot. All i asked is if the victims were harmed in this case and according to the post above at least one of them was. If thats true then i take back what i said.
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fun_size
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keithponder:
Wow... fuck you too.
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curtisreed:
ah curtis, you make it so easy, read your own words:
"relax, xiola, if your 14 year old hooked up with an older woman, he might stop acting like "well, a child".
do him a favor, get him a cougar"
Your remarks indicate that you find it "right" "OK" and "not criminal".
PWNED
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unimatrix0
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fun_size:
It is good you are rethinking your position, and walking back your words - if you honestly reread your remarks you will find that you were attempting to minimize and even justify the crime because you believe at 14 you would have been mature enough to have handled and processed the experience.
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unimatrix0
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Almibry
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curtisreed:
Or maybe people like you made him feel guilty by implying that there was something wrong with him because he didn't like it. Jackass.
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Almibry
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NaCl:
If kids were so bright, they would never be victimized. We would never see a case of child abuse because they would have spotted it immediately and turned in the person responsible. There would be no such thing as a broken home because the children wouldn't allow it. There wouldn't be any need for parents either... Or do you only mean boys? Do you think only girls are dumb enough to allow themselves to be molested?
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Almibry
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curtisreed:
I normally agree with Almibry,....but I agree with you on that point.
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remanns
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She had a bad lawyer. Good lawyers would have had a series of psychologists parade through labeling her as ill. She should have received counseling and three to seven years probation. MAX.
The whole thing shows how authority can be abused with half-baked politicos running wild.
There's no information of any harm having resulted here - what-so-ever. Other than abuse of law.
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Great point!!
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KSirys
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unimatrix0
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02:
she is a child molester - why would you defend a child molester?
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unimatrix0:
Maybe she is - maybe she isn't. Maybe you're green, maybe I'm a colorful frog.
If she was really chasing after these 14 year olds, she got off onto a stupid, nutty bender, which would seem to make her an unwell-adjusted, non-adult.
Was she all everything the worst child molester who ever lived could be? Depends on her actual intent and how much harm was created. But their complaining parents only seem to be interested in their authority having been usurped. That's something that'll only get worse - because that's what kids do - everything their parents don't wish.Were these kids really hurt, - they themselves, not the nickering of every fastidious do-right, sticking their opinion in?
I think they threw the book at her - And it sounds like anger, emotionalism and posturing by the court.
They need to throw the book at real pedophiles - that's where these notions are founded.
I'm not sure she classifies as that.
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unimatrix0:
Well if she looks anything like the girl on the posted picture, she is definately one sexy child molester. id like to be molested by her any day of the school year!
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DisownCashValue
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xiola
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02:
According to the article I read, at least part of the reason for her long sentence was the fact that she was a repeat offender.
- 1 year ago
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xiola
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unimatrix0
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02:
The facts are not in dispute: the woman is a child molester. And again I ask, what is wrong with you? Why would you defend a child molester?
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unimatrix0
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02:
Right on. +^d
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