Al Gore, Global Warming Myths. Beware of Prophets Seeking Profits!

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bailey78
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The strongest evidence yet that global warming has been triggered by human activity has emerged from a major study of rising temperatures in the world’s oceans.
The present trend of warmer sea temperatures, which have risen by an average of half a degree Celsius (0.9F) over the past 40 years, can be explained only if greenhouse gas emissions are responsible, new research has revealed.
The results are so compelling that they should end controversy about the causes of climate change, one of the scientists who led the study said yesterday.
"The debate about whether there is a global warming signal now is over, at least for rational people," said Tim Barnett, of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, California. "The models got it right. If a politician stands up and says the uncertainty is too great to believe these models, that is no longer tenable."
In the study, Dr Barnett’s team examined more than seven million observations of temperature, salinity and other variables in the world’s oceans, collected by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and compared the patterns with those that are predicted by computer models of various potential causes of climate change.
It found that natural variation in the Earth’s climate, or changes in solar activity or volcanic eruptions, which have been suggested as alternative explanations for rising temperatures, could not explain the data collected in the real world. Models based on man-made emissions of greenhouse gases, however, matched the observations almost precisely.
"What absolutely nailed it was the greenhouse model," Dr Barnett told the American Association for the Advancement of Science conference in Washington. Two models, one designed in Britain and one here in the US, got it almost exactly. We were stunned. They did it so well it was almost unbelieveable."
Climate change has affected the seas in different ways in different parts of the world: in the Atlantic, for example, rising temperatures can be observed up to 700 metres below the surface, while in the Pacific the warming is seen only up to 100m down.
Only the greenhouse models replicated the changes that have been observed in practice. "The fact that this has gone on in different ways gives us the chance to figure out who did it," Dr Barnett said.
"All the potential culprits have been ruled out except one.
"This is perhaps the most compelling evidence yet that global warming is happening right now, and it shows that we can successfully simulate its past and its likely future evolution. The statistical significance of these results is far too strong to be merely dismissed and should wipe out much of the uncertainty about the reality of global warming."
Dr Barnett said the results, which are about to be submitted for publication in a major peer-reviewed journal, should put further pressure on the Bush Administration to sign up to the Kyoto Protocol, which came into force on Wednesday. "It is now time for nations that are not part of Kyoto to reevaluate and see if it would be to their advantage to join," he said.
"We have got a serious problem ahead of us. The debate is not have we got a clear global warming signal, the debate is what we are going to do about it."
In a separate study, also presented to the conference, a team led by Ruth Curry of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Connecticut has established that 20,000 square kilometres of freshwater ice melted in the Arctic between 1965 and 1995.
Further melting on this scale could be sufficient to turn off the ocean currents that drive the Gulf Stream, which keeps Britain up to 6C warmer than it would otherwise be. "It is taking the first steps, the system is moving in that direction," Dr Curry said.
"The new ocean study, taken together with the numberous validations of the same models in the atmosphere, portends far broader changes. Other parts of the world will face similar problems to those expected, and being observed now, in the western US.
"The skill demonstrated by the climate models in handling the changing planetary heat budget suggests that these scenarios have a high enough probability of actually happening that they need to be taken seriously by decision-makers."
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bailey78
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congoboy
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bailey78:
wow, al gore couldnt have said it better himself. im sure there is evidence to dispute this evidence. and even more evidence to dispute that
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congoboy
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bailey78
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congoboy:
one could debate the weather is it raining or not? well it all depends on where your at. But I can see for myself it is getting hotter and thats global warming what is the cause ? many say it's in part mans doing if you can show me something that states other wise I'm willing to read it. But please make sure it from a reliable source.
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bailey78
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Eddie_Miller
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bailey78:
Well here in Sacramento California we have had a horridly COLD summer. This week is literally the first week of hot weather all summer and its nearly fall already.
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Eddie_Miller
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bailey78
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Eddie_Miller:
Really how cold is it?
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bailey78
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congoboy
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bailey78:
reliable source is subjective.depends on your beliefs. both sides claim to have reliable sources. granted sometimes it seems warmer sometimes colder. yuo could check out national temperature patterns on the internet. but believe who you want its a free country and i dont hold your beliefs against you my friend.
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congoboy
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Eddie_Miller
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bailey78:
Cold enough that my tomatoes and corn would not ripen.
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Eddie_Miller
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bailey78
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Eddie_Miller:
No kidding ? I'm shocked that it's that cold. Is it just at night or has it been that cool all this summer?
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bailey78
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CalgarC
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lol its all BS they are trying everything to shut him down... also if you put two and two together, anyone who uses energy efficient light bulbs and solar energy tends to save alot thus "making money"
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CalgarC
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FoosMaster
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This issue should Not be about Al Gore or Any One person or whoever is making money off of it.
It is about our Planet!!!
The better we take care of our planet the better off Everyone will be. It really Is that simple!!!
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FoosMaster
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im1mjrpain
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FoosMaster:
Yes but the people in control of this are in it strictly as a premeditated panzi scheme to create a global carbon tax that will tax us for the Air we breath. You think the U.S. economy is bad now? Let these people have their way and it's over.
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im1mjrpain
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congoboy
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FoosMaster:
agreed, but greed and personal gain should not be the motivating factor. anyone who profits off saving the earth through misrepresentation or lies should be flogged.
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congoboy
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FoosMaster
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congoboy:
I do Not agree with the "Carbon Tax" and many other proposed programs from Al Gore and Many other people, but my original statement remains, this is about taking care of our Planet.
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FoosMaster
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FoosMaster:
Essentially we are taking care of ourselves. Our planet will be fine no matter what we do to it. It has recovered from much more catastrophic situations.
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FoosMaster
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Eddie_Miller:
Yes, the planet will survive us. The problem is that We may not survive if we don't take care of the planet we now have so that it does not change so drastically that the society we now have won't survive. Poisons and polutants of All kinds are slowly Killing us and Changing our planet's environment in ways that we are just begining to understand.
To protect All of Society we Must protect the Planet. Take care of the environment and the health of All the World will improve. The only reason why I can think of that Anyone would object to that is GREED!
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FoosMaster
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FoosMaster:
"The problem is that We may not survive"
Sorry I don't see a problem with this... lol
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FoosMaster
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Eddie_Miller:
Wow, got me. I didn't see that coming. :))
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FoosMaster
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notyourbabiesdaddy
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I think we are like a virus on the planet and when there's too many people and limited resources , it will get a rid of us like a high fever . That being said the science you dismiss as a "myth " is a shallow argument with very little evidence to combat this "stupid " overreaction to the majority of creditable scientific opinion . I'm not too worried but that doesn't mean it's not an issue to be concerned about , I'm just glad we stopped arguing about the earth being flat and what kind of cheese the moon is made of . Lunar cheddar does sound tasty or like a new strain of weed . I think it's pretty cool to post such an obvious button pusher for the passionate but sometimes limited sense of context and humor . Now go back to the coal mines and fuel this endless supply of our demands , i will hold my aerosol can up to the ozone and help bring back the fluorocarbons that were so easy to blame .
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notyourbabiesdaddy
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congoboy
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notyourbabiesdaddy:
thanks for your stating of the obvious. now go back to your mamas tit
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congoboy
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notyourbabiesdaddy:
I have no idea what you just said. It's like a foreign language. Am I missing something?
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Eddie_Miller
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im1mjrpain:
I would need to see the whole thing from beginning to end before making any particular comment on the legislation, doesn't mean I can't comment on the video though.
They've had dozens of experts give different testimony, whoop de do. There are hundreds of experts on the subject and if Steve Scalise, or any other people who don't believe in man made climate change, really want to find a few dozen experts who disagree with the mass to testify, then it shouldn't be too difficult for them.
It happens in courts often enough. Someone commits a murder, or some other crime, and rather than trust a general forensic consensus, the court turns into a battle of the experts where a select few who disagree get into a pissing contest over who is correct.
By the way, those 30,000 scientists who signed their names rejecting al gore's theory on multiple petitions and statements, only a small portion of them have any background in any field relevant to the understanding of global warming. Most of those scientists are educated in a medical background. So maybe we should think about how seriously we take those 30,000 scientists who have signed their names. I sure as shit wouldn't trust a medical diagnosis from a climatologist, so why should I trust a medical scientist telling me global warming isn't man made?
The video is correct, carbon on it's own is not a pollutant. That does not mean that molecules such as carbon dioxide and the complex carbon chains which make up fossil fuels are not pollutants as well, because they are.
And despite the claim in this video that the global temperature has been cooling as opposed to warming for the past decade, the icecaps have been shrinking as opposed to growing. Curious isn't it. Wouldn't cooling cause more water to freeze into ice rather than less?
Yes, it can look bad that Gore owns a carbon credit company. Or it can look like he is trying to invest in something that he believes in. Honestly, why the fuck should we care if he profits from it? Did anyone bitch about rich people owning their own car companies when the automobile was first invented? They put a lot of horse and carriage businesses out of business, which cost jobs, so it must have been pretty bad.
The triple take of Gore is an idiotic attempt to make him look stupid. Unlike the Senator, Gore doesn't appear to be reading from a list of tailored to make him look good while making his opposition look bad. Notice, this guy asks Gore a bunch of questions, but doesn't really give Gore time to answer. He quickly interrupts Gore, asks another question, and seems to expect both to be answered.
"Al Gore's ludicrous denial is -- at best -- true only by technicality." WHAT THE FUCK? It is true or it is not! Whoever put this video together is now trying to save face with something that they cannot really twist around by making it seem like it's not a big deal. It would be like saying, "Yeah, the Cub's ludicrous victory is, at best, true, but only by the technicality that they hit more home runs."
By the way, what part did David Blood play in Goldman Sachs' part of the economic crisis? Knowing that he was the CEO of the asset management division until 2003 sounds pretty damning, but it doesn't really confirm anything.
Wait a second, Al Gore claimed that Enron was not involved in the drafting of that particular bill, and in response the senator said, "Well the details are not in this bill and I would suggest that they are." Because details about Enron's being involved in drafting that bill are not in that bill, nor evident elsewhere, the senator is suggesting that Enron was involved in the drafting of that bill. Is that senator a retard?
General Electric, major environmental organizations, and Gore's company stand to profit if carbon taxes are implemented. How is GE going to profit exactly? And if the global warming crisis is false because GE owns and uses MSNBC, NBC, and the weather channel to promote global warming, what does it mean when CNN, ABC, and other news stations mention concern about global warming?
People like credit swaps and such because conservatives heavily deregulated the laws governing what could and could not happen. If you don't have regulations, greedy people will do very stupid things to earn money quickly at the cost of the national economies stability. If you have regulations, greedy people won't be able to do as many stupid things that will make the economy unstable.
Al Gore didn't actually side step the question. And the IPCC represents the opinion of the majority of climatologists. Climatologists are the scientists who's opinions matter in the field of climate sciences.
By the way, the cute little joke by representative Joe Barton is proof of how seriously these assholes take this issue. It is a slap to the publics face that he would belittle something that he believes is such a risk to tax payers.
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Varex_Sythe
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congoboy
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Varex_Sythe:
same goes for the scienrists that signed on in favor
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congoboy
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im1mjrpain
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ&feature=related
Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud?
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im1mjrpain
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im1mjrpain:
Imagine that...a clip from Fox news. Wowwwww. Yeah, I'll never stereotype again. You can do that for me.
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cheshiresleeves
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lj111
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i wish al gore would name one person who has made more money off "global warming" THAN HE HAS. I WOULD ALSO LIKEHIM TO NAME ANOTHER PERSON WHO HAS POLLUTED THE AIR BY GOING FROM CITY TO CITY SPREADING LIES ABOUT "GLOBAL WARMING" THAN HE HAS. he is a trickster and a damn good one.
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reactionforce
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Everyone has an agenda.
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reactionforce
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tverdell
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tverdell:
Both I suppose. If deception is used for personal gain, the overall result could be good, but that doesn't excuse the deception.
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reactionforce
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brit50
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Anyone who falls for Al Gores trap is not fully understood. He makes millions of dollars off of this nonsense. He blatantly lies about what is occurring climatologically (remember the Polar Bears). People are much to quick to support a this trickster.
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brit50
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brit50:
MANBEARPIG!
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thetrimsmith
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Eddie_Miller:
I'm super serial, nobody believes me.
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im1mjrpain
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brit50:
I agree with you but I have one small correction.... Al Gore has became a BILLIONAIRE off pushing this carbon tax driven agenda. Let's not forget he said NAFTA was a good deal for this country.
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im1mjrpain
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brit50
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im1mjrpain:
Agreed
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brit50
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im1mjrpain:
Yeah I guess he didn't get paid much for BEING VICE PRESIDENT!
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galwayman
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Our planet has adjusted over the centuries to changes just fine as far as I can see and now it would appear that the whole global warming issue is false,created by the liberals to excuse imposing on all of us restrictions that aren't really needed! All part of the liberal agenda! As to profits made by those pushing this agenda,companies pushing products like wind towers for instance well it's over now one can hope! Ido hope we can dump the cape wind program it will ruin cape cod if it goes forward!
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galwayman:
Just a couple things you might not see , the ice age , air quality during the industrial revolution and those odd skin cancer rates in Hawaii , Africa , places sunscreen was imported for visitors (white people ) now we all get a little burned . The money being made selling global warming isn't worth mentioning until it comes close to the trillions of dollars that continue to flow from Oil , gas , coal , nuclear energy and some would say these fuels can be bad for the environment ( BP didn't help your point )
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notyourbabiesdaddy
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Eddie_Miller
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Our planet and its atmosphere have been changing since their beginning. They're not going to stop just because it inconveniences humans. Maybe we have some part in changes that are to come and maybe not; regardless, arguing about it doesn't do anything... we should be focusing on solutions to the problems that come from the change in climate and not bickering over WHY it is happening. The universe is not a static thing. Everything in it changes all the time. We are so young as a species we have not had a chance to experience the extreme changes in environment that have been going on throughout the lifetime of this planet.
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congoboy
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Eddie_Miller:
youre a smart reasonable guy who doesnt speak with a forked tongue, like gore and his cronies.
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congoboy
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congoboy:
all i'm saying is one thing has not changed. ADAPT OR DIE
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JanforGore
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Another attempt to deflect from 150 years of climate science by trashing Al Gore, their scapegoat. Typical ignorant trash.
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congoboy
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JanforGore:
yo beeya, my science goes back 50,000 years. hah, trumped your ignorant gullible gore kissin butt.
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congoboy
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congoboy:
This isn't about kissing anyone's butt. It's about a reality you refuse to see because you don't have the brain power to do so.
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congoboy
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JanforGore:
wow, if you'd listen to someone beside your hero, say like a real scientist maybe you'd learn something study the earths geology over the past 50,000 years. something gore refuses to do
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congoboy
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JanforGore:
You realize that Al Gore's only intentions in all of this are to make money...From the time he began speaking about the climate (right after Bush's first election) over the next seven years his net worth jumped 10,000 percent from 1 to 100 million!
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brit50
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JanforGore:
How does Al Gore making profits off of carbon credits help the eco system?
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congoboy:
you should listen to yourself. How about you read an environmental science book or maybe take a course, you can learn a lot from it...like the truth.
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JanforGore:
Please stop downing people simply because they see through the panzi scheme you've fallen for Jan! Please.
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im1mjrpain:
The whole point is that people should not be supporting Al Gore but supporting the environment instead. Forget about what he says, if everyone would just take an environmental science course or read a book about it with real scientific proof that was not sponsored by lobbyist who would gain from lies, then it would be much better
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congoboy:
only 50,000 years , that leaves a lot of missing information about the earths climate .
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congoboy
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notyourbabiesdaddy:
50,000 can make a good case study but we can back several million for a more accurate look at the normal cycles to show ice ages and heat waves come and gone, all without the help of mankind.
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congoboy
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congoboy
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manny0409:
yeah ive even seen core samples of the earths crust and the proof of many environmental examples of heating and cooling trends without the help of the evil modern white man
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congoboy
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brit50:
Couldn't you have just said "Read every other ignorant comment about Al Gore getting rich." Instead of re posting the same nonsense sentence as ALL of the other hate mongers.
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congoboy:
Ice ages and the such do happen normally but instead take tens of thousands of years. Human abuse of the environment has sped up the process so much than in the last 50 years the temperatures have risen greatly and use of unrenewable natural resources has damaged many things in the environment. Like for example, 70% of fresh water is located in the continent of Antarctica and I think about 20% in Greenland. Because of the exponential rise in temperature, Greenland is mostly melted by now and Antarctica is falling bit by bit. That's less fresh water for us because once it mixes with the salt in the ocean, it takes a very expensive process to be able to make it drinkable again and most companies dont want to do it because of that, or they would have to charge a lot more for usage of water.
Your right about this happening anyway, but it would take so long that if it wasn't because all the damage we have done, we would not even be noticing it right now. - 1 year ago
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ReverandG
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I don't know man it was 108 yesterday, plenty of Hot Air to go around.
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ReverandG:
Imo, most of the hot air is generated inside the beltway in Washington DC, the rest from the progressive left wingers here a Current.
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2hellnwait:
Cute, but not that reply does not refute the claim.
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Varex_Sythe
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Varex_Sythe:
A claim made as a statement of fact. . . is not necessarily one and the same.
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2hellnwait:
Yeah... the idea that you are trying to convey in that sentence is a bit... muddled...
Did you mean to say, "A claim and a fact... are not one and the same?" Because if you did, then not only did you fail to refute what ReverandG claimed, but you're ideology about a claim and a fact not being the same does not apply to ReverantG's claim, unless he is lying. Or perhaps you though I was referring to the claim that Global Warming is real, which I think it is, as opposed to ReverandG's claim that it was 108 yesterday.
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Varex_Sythe:
I corrected my statement, if that matters to you at all.
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2hellnwait:
Thank you. I now understand what you meant.
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eco sucker
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kennymotown
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Deleted like the trash you are!
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kennymotown:
Now Kenny is that any way to talk about Al being sucked into a jet engine?
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ReverandG