Comedy | September 04, 2010 | 49 comments

WHY - Gay "Marriage" is a Bad Idea

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BECAUSE - "Marriage" IS a Bad Idea,....and it should have been discarded a long time ago by anyone rational. You don't have to be an atheist to think that some bad habits and crazed customs are recreational activities for NUT CASES. Rational "CIVIL UNIONS" are all ANYONE should be willing to tolerate, let alone actively encourage. Mind you, this is not an attack on "bonding" and legal protections,.....this is inveighing against the whole Judeo- Christian roots and baggage associated with the habit. Time to "Move On. God" out of this cultural land fill.

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- Think about Marriage as described in the Bible
Most Christians consider marriage to be a sacred act created by God in the Bible. For example, on this page you can see Rick Warren stating: "I'm opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage." At many weddings you will hear a Bible passage like Genesis 2:24 used to show God's view of marriage:

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
There is also the commandment that forbids adultery. If digging deeper, a Christian might selectively pull out other verses from places like Ephesians, as described in this article:
What Does the Bible Say About Marriage?

In doing this, however, the Christian is ignoring the rich tapestry of marriage types condoned by God and the Bible.

For example, there are many examples of polygamy in the Bible, all of them condoned by God. King David, for example, had many wives. Seven of his wives are listed in 1 Chronicles 3:1-5. In Acts 13:22 God says, "'I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do." And many other characters in the Bible had two or more wives, including Jacob.

The case of Jacob (described in Genesis chapters 28, 29 and 30) is fascinating because it shows several other attributes of Biblical marriage. For example, Jacob earns his wife as payment for seven years of work done. It is a contract between Jacob and the woman's father – the woman is mere property in a transaction and has no say in the matter.

However, the man that Jacob is working for tricks Jacob by giving him the wrong sister, and corrects the problem by letting Jacob work for another seven years for the second daughter. Now Jacob has two wives.

But the second sister is barren. So the second sister gives Jacob her slave to sleep with and have a child. All of this is done as part of God's plan and with God's active intervention (for example, God makes the second sister barren).

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49 comments // WHY - Gay "Marriage" is a Bad Idea

  • indianagiordani
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      indianagiordani  
    • i like this article, i believe in God and consider myself a child of God but not Christian, for my own reasons that no one will understand, but as for marriage i have always thought it was a way to just have control of the other person, conventionally the man controlling the woman, back in the Bible days it was usually for property and to procreate and have other woman take care of the mans children and not really BE a father, just basically a "sperm donor"

      these days marriage is usually to secure sex and eliminate loneliness, and for financial security, it's never been an expression of love to me, however there are a paucity amount of people that do get married as a form of love,

      these examples used in the above story only helped me validate that marriage is not sacred or loving, only derogatory to one or even both individuals involved,

    • 1 year ago
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • Well, in a free marketplace, the big corporations always dominate the little mom and pop shops.

      Therefore, we should have Corporate Marriage. Join up and buy some stock and you are married. The corporation can provide any level of intimacy desired on a contractual basis. It's all legal, You are member of a private club.

      Folks, I suggest two classes of corporate relationships --- the Micro-Brew of Nuptial bliss: Any group of up to 8 individuals, and for those who wish to extend their heart to many, the MegaFranchise of McMarriage.

      You Betcha. A free marketplace without restrictions where the corporation can truly merge with the individual. Wink-Wink. You Betcha

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • indianagiordani
  • jahbini
  • MizPiz
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • I agree wholeheartedly...the institution of marriage is a failed one. Civil unions for everyone is the way it should be. If people still want marriage then go to your church and get one...but leave the government out of your marriage.

      As far as civil rights and responsibilities lay...civil unions should be the legal term for everyone whether gay or straight. And these unions should not be limited to just two partners. Any number of adults should be able to form civil partnerships.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • randallr01
  • Admirable
    • +6
      Admirable  
    • I think that gay people have the right to be as miserable and unhappy as everybody else. Let everybody that feels the need to be married get hitched.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
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      ReverandG  
    • Sorry to impose here but this story as usual from the GLxyz what ever you call it
      in BS. Voted Down again! Keep reading the bible...they have eyes but can not see, they have ears they do not listen..------------You people will do anything or say anything to try to justify your unnatural fantasies.
      But I won't cast pearls before swine, you're a waste of time.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • ReverandG:

      Sometime ago, I knew a guy that used to quote some of these same lines of scripture, the one about the eyes, ears and the casting of pearls before swine. In time, he went on to serve a mission with his wife and later served in the Mormon Temple for about twenty years. Later on in life, he was not only removed from the Temple but from the church as well for molesting his grand daughter.

      I can only guess what he was doing with his family jewels. One thing can be ascertained from this and that would be that his grand daughter must not have been a swine.

      I find it odd that Utah has two prisons with approximate population of 500 to 600 each. Sixty-five percent of the inmates there are convicted of sex crimes, many against children but in any case, all against children of God. I guess they were acting upon their natural fantasies.

      In conclusion, many of them keep reading the Bible, looking for forgiveness but when many are released, they often offend again. I guess they should read their Bible more intently and more often and any of the other Holy Books they can find.

      Here is a scripture that was written for most Christians.
      Isaiah 29:13, : "The Lord says:
      "These people come near to me with their mouth
      and honor me with their lips,
      but their hearts are far from me.
      Their worship of me
      is made up only of rules taught by men."

      Read the Bible, don't read the Bible, it is all the same. In the end, it is what you do with your life and to others that counts and not on your choice of literature or where you hang your hat on Sundays.

    • 1 year ago
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • JuliusBC:

      That scripture you posted refers to people who say their goal in life is to be a good "Christian". this is wrong. being a good christian, a jew or muslim will not get you into heaven. your just going through the motions of rules created by man.

    • 1 year ago
  • shakespearessister
  • randallr01
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      I am thinking it applies more to Christians that say they are good and Christ like and yet do so many things contrary to what the name or title implies. They speak Godly stuff but Sunday is when they pretend like they live it.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
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    • Here is an unlikely pair but if they can make it work, I say more power to them as well as with anyone else who desires it and can make it work.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Here is a chilling thought. The Mormons have what they call an eternal marriage wherein you are married for all time and eternity. This is fine if you are one of the few that find a mate that makes you happy. Most people don't find a mate they love and makes them happy. In fact, many can't stand their mate after a short period of time. The divorce rate proves this.

      Can you imagine spending an eternity with someone you can't stand?! How could anyone see this as heaven?

    • 1 year ago
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • indianagiordani
  • ezrierin
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      ezrierin  
    • If you believe marriage is a bad idea, more power too you. You may very well have less suffering in your life. Oh BTW, welcome to a minority. Giggles! It’s a blast, believe me (sarcasm)!
      Marriage has nothing to do with a god or gods, it has everything to do with Biological Imperative (desiring, having and raising children). Unless you and your mate have lots of resources, a million bucks and a nanny or two, marriage is the easiest and most common way in a tribe or society to be successful in Biological Imperative.
      Couples who can have children, or who do not want or cannot have children together still have the evolutionarily programmed drive to fall in love. Why? Because love feels good, and it did not kill off those that do not have kids. Therefore, the trait to fall in love and be in love remains. Love is an emotional response we evolved to stick together to raise up our helpless children until they are about 14 years old in a natural environment.
      Even back in “cave man” days, a couple could break up. Therefore, to assure the success in child rearing and consequently the success of the entire tribe, Human Beings ritualized. Back then, Pop-in-law might hit you with a club if you tried to run off from his daughter with which you had six kids. However, people found it helped to frighten you with damnation by placing you before a supernatural Being, like a god or gods, and swearing to stay together.
      Today we frighten you with the law. People have kids to be cared for, and resources they want or need to retain. Therefore, the law developed to replace the fear of god or gods and it actually works better to share up the common resources of the couple. I say better because back in the day, if you left your wife, your resources may be taken from you with a spear in your liver.
      Society (the mega tribe) today encourages marriage between reproducing couples by giving them tax breaks and other benefits. This helps assures the next generation and the survival of society.
      So what about people who cannot or do not want to have children? Those folks still have the emotional desire to love, and be with someone forever, a behavior evolved into us in order to raise children successfully. Law should fulfill those desires. It is unjust to deny anyone the same social benefits of marriage as a couple that can or will reproduce. It is also morally unjust to deny someone the emotional fulfillment they can get from a ritualized and/or legal pair bonding, or marriage.
      The screaming question here is why, in a modern society, get married or pair bond at all? Hunger. Because we are driven to reproduce, we developed an emotional hunger for love. We hunger to be with someone. We hunger to feel safe with someone beside us as we go through our lives. It is as hard wired an emotional and physical desire as hunger for food. The only thing other then love, that can stem that hunger is drugs, like heroin or the like. Honestly, most heroin addicts will tell you they suffer from the hunger of loneliness. It is such a terrible hunger; they turn to drugs to ease the pain. Think of that the next time you see a “Hype” in an alleyway.
      You can believe you are somehow superior if you have no desire to ever get married or even live with someone. That’s cool, rock on then! You can get away with that belief especially in the modern environment where reproducing and species survival does not demand you participation. It may even be advantageous to certain individuals in modern society. However, most everyone else is emotionally hard wired to pair bond, and/or get married. With all it’s legally binding advantages and traps, it is what most people desire for and suffer for until they have it. No one should be denied the option to be happy and end their pain of loneliness.
      For all you religious people that hate gays (GLBT), Jesus said: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.”
      How can you fulfill that commandment by denying fulfillment in love and marriage to anyone?

    • 1 year ago
  • mindcruzer
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • ezrierin:

      Just to be clear, "Bonding Contracts" between 2 (or more, if it works for them ),consenting individuals...and providing a functional economic framework for children are not things I have issues with,...much less "the need for company" per se . And some marriage CUSTOMS, from some cultures, are fine. Just don't mix the RELIGIOUS stuff with my LAW,....thank you very much.

      ( And certainly keep the legacy of this bronze age proto-Christian stuff FAR FAR away ! )

      p.s. I am a renounced romantic,....I don't personally feel "superior" at all. But hey,...I did my time,....and payed off my debt to the gods and godettes of ardor. All I want now is a buss pass and a warm couch. Uhm,....and Sci-fi. And beer. And peace and quiet.

      Eventually an easy unexpected demise would be nice.

      p.p.s. Oh ! AND BADGES! Obviously everyone must have BADGES !

    • 1 year ago
  • ahappymintleaf
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      ahappymintleaf  
    • ezrierin:

      Studies indicated humans are serial monogamists, as in couple with a single person for a shorter period of time. Typically, until a child is weaned, if not sooner. Which is why there is the concept of the four-year itch in marriages.

      Marriage isn't made for seriality. It has a false concept of permanence attached to it and some mystical ideal of true love. Civil unions should have all the legal benefits of marriage, but without the hassle or stigma of normal coupling and decoupling.

      Plus gay marriage... c'mon we got other more totalizing queer issues to focus on.

    • 1 year ago
  • pjacobs51
  • ayipis
  • Andrew_Douglas
  • CalgarC
  • Pollo_Loco_
  • remanns
  • versasrev
  • UtopianSky
  • remanns
  • ayipis
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • I wonder what 50 sheckles of silver turns into,....adjusted for inflation ?

      ( This part is a hoot ! You just have to maintain some savings, I suppose )

      --Deuteronomy 22:28-29 offers another, even more vile, path to marriage:
      If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
      This law appears not once but twice in the Bible. It is repeated in Exodus 22:16:
      If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.
      Note that, according to the Bible, the only valid marriage is to a woman who is a virgin. This law is laid down in Deuteronomy chapter 22, verse 13 through 21. If a woman is not a virgin, she must be put to death.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • remanns:

      Christianity is creepy about relationships . Other cultures have varying degrees of simplicity dealing with such an intensely emotional subject . I guess your point is freedom to love does not mean ownership or possession , and these two concept have gotten entangled at some point . Perhaps we need to examine and re work the intent . There does need to be a legal way to connect two consenting adults , as to create a legal family entity . So there is still a dilemma . And , yes , it is human to make mistakes and have to get it undone . Especially where romance is concerned . I like the six nations divorce method , or the ancient Celts , the homemaker just moves their stuff out of the Tipi or home . Quick , easy , No words needed .

    • 1 year ago
  • pjacobs51
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      pjacobs51  
    • remanns:

      So, does this mean my marriage was "null and void" from the very beginning (she being a non-virgin) and now I can get all my stuff and money back from my ex???

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • artemis6:

      My point, I suppose, would be, that while CONTRACTS between individuals are psychologically, economically, and socially necessary,....NOW as ever,....we have NO NEED of this particular cultural legacy AT ALL. We no longer NEED the term "Marriage" and the cultural Christian Fundamentalist underpinnings it has.

      We are in the midst of an ongoing "culture war",....and while it may SEEM like
      progress and increased empowerment for the gay community to lobby for "Marriage" and pursue "equal access",....in fact, that position is one of courting weakness and compromise.

      What couples, of ALL types, should fight for is LEGAL POWER IN SOCIETY for the bond/relationship,....and a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DIVORCE of their Federal and State governmental/legal bodies from ALL religious non governmental marriages.

      What you want is a "We don't need your stinking marriage,..and we don't recognize any legal significance to yours" stance and mindset. F-ck em.

      A whole NEW fully modern selection of domestic contracts,....thats what I would propose.
      Push conservative pin head cultural slowly and remorselessly into the sea,....uhm,....so to speak.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • remanns
  • UtopianSky
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      UtopianSky  
    • remanns:

      What is that thing on the floor?
      It looks like a Slurpee.
      They are holding champagne glasses, and have a Slurpee cup on the floor?
      My people must drink like fish!

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • UtopianSky
  • remanns
  • remanns
  • JuliusBC
  • remanns
    • +4
      remanns  
    • Image
    • But if you INSIST we MUST hold on to this antiquated cultural cul-de-sac,.....follow this flow chart Sargasso around in circles....

    • 1 year ago
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