Aliens built the pyramids

It's under comedy because in full honesty it's right along the ever changing edge beween Conspiracy Theory/paranormal nonsense & very serious scientific disscussion that seems to be too "out there" to be right but has too many facts to be discredited.

Very nice indeed!

Saladen is great commentator, I am a little surprised in his reaction to the article. It was after all an article to stimulate ones mind, I must have touched a nerve or something!

I tell it like it is, it is of no interest to me that it hurts peoples' feelings to know that the things that they believe are ridiculous.

Yeah kenny, it touched a couple of nerves. It touched my skeptic and scientific naturalist nerve, the one that demands positive evidence for positive claims. It touched my history nerve, the one that demands that people respect the ingenuity and tenacity of the human being and all it has accomplished. And it touched my current nerve, the one that demands that a forum of intelligent, critical human beings be wise enough to discern clear fact from obvious fiction.

welcome to the club

sharing your opinion is not necessarily telling it like it is

Just because you don't have it does not mean that the evidence does not exist. It's sounds, too me, more like you don't want it to exist.

Contrary to myth, I've never seen any hard evidence that proves that the Jews built the pyramids, as so widely believed.

Yep. We are actually a product of cross-breeding aliens with a species of primate.

so are you then saying that aliens were into beastiality?

You never know about those aliens. They would have to be intelligent to master space flight and I don't think they would have traveled so far just to smell the roses. Sounds logical to me.

Haha. Thats a good point. But did you think about how maybe they use the stars that we can see from Earth as like a landmark of sorts. They know if they see Orion and his belt then they're on earth. If they see a constellation that looks

Or, maybe the Egyptians were so captivated by the alien being and his space ship that came from the sky that they grew obsessed with it and where it came from. So they learned everything they could about the stars and made up the rest.

Well, the truth is we'll never know who built the pyramids or how. Unless the aliens or some mummy come down to earth and say "look, this is how it all went down..." Same with the Easter Island heads or the strange road under the sea near Bimini.

Thinking about all these perplexing human mysteries makes me tingle a bit.

"You know when the unit of time has repeated by checking the shadow it places on the ground at roughly the same time every day until it reaches the starting point, and there you go, one year has transpired."

That's one day if I'm not mistaken.

Over the course of a year, the maximum length of the shadow will change. Smaller in winter and taller in summer.

I see

The angle will change as well. Essentially all you need to do is mark the starting length (like with another stick) and then wait until the initial conditions recur to know that one year has passed.

As a matter of fact one could even use sticks to determine that the Earth is round, get a very close approximation for the circumference of the Earth, and determine the Equinoxes and Solstices. Though one needs to know a little math as well.

You're the most open minded guy. It's heart warming, really. I mean, how often do I get to read such thoughtful and intellectual garbage such as what you have produced? Not to insult, but you need to turn off the asshole switch and show respect for people just tryin to make sense out of life.

Mission failed.
It was an honest attempt, but just because you believe it's a ridiculous subject to be discussed, it doesn't mean it is.
And your promoting open mindedness and self education, but your doing it through condescension and belittling what others find interesting. I don't think that will work.

I don't have to respect asinine ideas, especially when they're accepted out of hand by people who never even bothered to look up how they were made in the first place.

You aren't "trying to make sense out of life." That's the real criminal claim here. You want someone to tell you something fun so you can believe that reality is more interesting than it actually is.

If you really wanted to make sense of things, you'd actually do an investigation. If you really cared about what's true, you wouldn't just pick up on any idea anyone throws out there, especially when it's something that we actually understand very well.

Yeah because he couldn't have come to that conclusion on his own. He must've heard it somewhere.

You don't believe it's a ridiculous subject to speculate AS FACT whether or not human built structures were assisted by alien lifeforms based on NO evidence and AGAINST a demonstrable understanding of their construction?

Enlighten me then, what is ridiculous.

You don't seem to understand what open mindedness is, or education, or apparently even the word ridiculous.

I'm sorry, but it's hard to not be condescending when someone is shitting on my major and then telling me to be nicer about a point of view that is the definition of stupid.

You mean we're in a story that's just introduced the idea, they've never posted about it before, they've just mentioned that they're "trying to figure things out," but they DIDN'T get the idea from this story.

Yeah ok.

Even if that were true, how is it relevant? For christ's sale, you could go to the page on wikipedia and get an explanation on how these things were built, let alone the mountains of papers that have been written about this subject. We're talking about ZERO effort here.

Even if he did come up with it on his own, that's really not impressive.

A possibility is not a probability, let alone what is likely to have actually happened.

And you don't know what logic is if you think you're trying to gather "all possibilities" and then "rule them out." By definition, there are an infinite number of possibilities. The only ones you should take seriously is what is demonstrated by the actual evidence.

Blind speculation and investigation are not the same thing. And since logic is the language that organizes facts, how useless is it to say you're going to logically choose from possibilities? The only logical thing to deduce from a possibility is that it CAN happen, not that it did happen or that it was likely to happen.

"And to think I haven't investigated is insulting."

You haven't investigated, if you did, you wouldn't even consider this to be a possibility. Either that or you don't know what an investigation is.

If this is now a "lost cause," then you've proven my point that this you have an emotional attachment to this issue instead of a rational one. If you can go from "you pissed me off" to "what you say is wrong" and still think you're being intellectually honest, then you definitely don't understand what logic is.

Seriously, someone should not need to hold your hand and give you reassuring cuddles to explain why something this obviously asinine is wrong. I'm sorry, I reserve my patience and my kind demeanor for people who have enough intellectual rigor to not change their entire worldview based on a vague suggestion that doesn't even make sense.

I feel sorry for you man. I actually used to respect the things you wrote. I know your an intelligent person but your whole way of "teaching people" is humiliating. If you want people to be smart you need to talk to them, not insult them. The very first post I made was that your an asshole. NOT that you were wrong. Just that your a prick.

And no. This is not a lost cause because I have some emotional attachment to what I believe. It's a lost cause because there's no way for either of us to "win" this argument. Your going to be a dick. And I'm going to try to tell you your being a dick. Then the cycle continues.

And even if I did have an "emotional attachment" to my belief then you have no place to try to tell me I'm wrong. Some people need their beliefs, without them they have nothing.

Go learn some social skills, man. Go back to college or something. Get the sand out of your beaver and come back here refreshed.

Nobody is shitting on your major, your a very sensitive person. I know it's hard not to be condescending to someone you disagree with, but if you have any real, honest hope to never see a post like this story get to the top spot and stay there for so long, maybe you shouldn't be posting insulting rants about people and what they find interesting. Maybe you shouldn't attack anyone who argues against you. This post is not a problem, it's just harmless speculation. Oh, and I understand all of those complex concepts you brought up, I just also understand you don't have to tell an entire group of posters that they are out of their minds to explain to them what proof exists. There is a lot of factual evidence to explain how the pyramids were designed and constructed. You could just as easily post all of this information without telling everyone that they need to get in touch with their rational brain. The message might actually sink in, which is the effect I hope you are going for.

Yes, that's what I mean.
It's not about impressing you, it's about not being the type of person to believe something at face value on a whim.

It's not number one because everyone agrees with the link. I didn't read it in all honesty as I have a mind of my own and wanted to comment based on the topic. It's a very interesting topic and actually something different from the usual here and makes you think. The fact that many others obviously felt the same way is why it is at number one. Comments and votes raise the post up the ranks not just agreement. And you just helped it with this response.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Holy shit man your such a hypocrite I can't contain myself. You preach open mindedness but DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF? You've just written the most closed minded post I read so far. You preach to keep all possibilities open but then you sit there and say that this particular possibility is "fucking asinine back to front".

Why don't you shut up for a minute and think.

"Seriously, the Pyramids aren't even that complicated of a structure."
Did you deduct that on your own Sherlock? You know what a Pyramid is? It's one of the ONLY shapes that cannot be created by nature. A triangle CANNOT be made naturally, thus and intelligent being had to have built it.

So it may be possible that a Pyramid could be some sort of intergalactic symbol for intelligent life.

And yea the Colosseum is a wonder. But have you gotten a good look at it recently? It's like Lindsey Lohan's career. Fuckin shambles. The pyramids are still looking pretty good to me. Can you name me any other structures that haven't changed through time?

Yeah pyramids do have to be made by intelligent life, that's why we made them.

And actually, lots of the pyramids are in shambles. Most of the outer bricks have worn away and some are so damaged that they're indistinguishable from a pile of rubble. They used to be far more incredible structures as the outer layer of bricks was polished to a mirror shine such that they gleamed like mirrors in the sun.

This is not even mentioning that no one ever attacked the Pyramids like the city of Rome was attacked, burned and looted multiple times. This also isn't mentioning the facts that a pyramid is a much stronger shape and structure than the Colosseum.

None of this actually addresses any of the points I make about why believing it's built by aliens is asinine.

You're a perfect candidate for my video above. Being open-minded does NOT mean accepting new ideas uncritically. It means questioning your own assumptions and being ready to change your mind if you think you're wrong.

Finally - thank you.

Dude, I'm ready to accept the "truth" just as much as the next guy. I'm NOT saying your wrong. I"M NOT. I'm saying your an arrogant ass. I'm saying that YOUR the one automatically assuming that alien's didn't come down here just because it's a little ridiculous. Maybe you should watch that video yourself.

KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND DON'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER EXPLANATION.

Well, KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND DON'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME SOMETHING IS FALSE JUST BECAUSE THE EXPLANATION IS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS.

I think the Catholic faith is a little ridiculous (sorry for all those catholics reading this). But that DOES NOT mean I think their wrong. That DOES NOT mean I think their stupid or naive. That DOES NOT mean I have the right to belittle them into submission.

Open mindedness= "It means questioning your own assumptions and being ready to change your mind if you think you're wrong."

You don't have to think your wrong. You have to think that they could be right.

"Yeah pyramids do have to be made by intelligent life, that's why we made them."
WHERE IS THE OPEN MINDEDNESS? What about the whole thing about the fan that you didn't notice when you saw the lamp shade moving? Do you automatically assume or do you DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF?

No- thank you. Are you just pissed cuz you hate conversations with no victor? You can't win this particular argument because it's not really an argument it's sharing your idea of the meaning of life and what it could possibly be. there is no right or wrong. it's just what we think

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

Why would you comment on something without having read the article first? That doesn't make sense to me.

"I'm saying that YOUR the one automatically assuming that alien's didn't come down here just because it's a little ridiculous"

If you call a series of utterly contradicting facts "a little ridiculous," sure, it's a little ridiculous. Sort of like it would be a little bit ridiculous to think that a ghost murdered someone if they had a knife in their back with fingerprints matching a suspect you had in custody.

"I think the Catholic faith is a little ridiculous (sorry for all those catholics reading this). But that DOES NOT mean I think their wrong. That DOES NOT mean I think their stupid or naive. That DOES NOT mean I have the right to belittle them into submission."

Then you don't understand what an open mind is. An open mind isn't concerned with how ridiculous something is or how cherished it is.

An open mind is concerned with the EVIDENCE, with what is DEMONSTRABLY true.

It isn't concerned with peoples' subjective feelings about the belief nor is it "belittling" to point out why those beliefs are wrong.

"You don't have to think your wrong. You have to think that they could be right."

No, you're utterly wrong.

It's IRRELEVANT whether someone COULD be right, it only matters if they ARE right. If the evidence really DOES point in that direction.

"WHERE IS THE OPEN MINDEDNESS? What about the whole thing about the fan that you didn't notice when you saw the lamp shade moving? Do you automatically assume or do you DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF"

Because this is a phenomena which has already been explained. To use the metaphor from the video, that fan got turned off fucking decades ago. We understand, very well, how these things were built.

It's you who's claiming ghost stories here, it's you who actually has a lack of curiosity. You haven't even bothered to read about how they were actually built based on the evidence found from the site and are now uncritically accepting an UNFALSIFIABLE explanation for something that has a DEMONSTRABLE falsifiable one.

Furthermore, you've already demonstrated this because you read versasrev's post above and responded to it.

What this entire conversation has been is you being butthurt over me calling this idea stupid.

Well, it is stupid. And you don't have a right to be upset because I called it that. Nor does it make any sense to call me an arrogant for rejecting a notion that's obviously WRONG.

And for every post that you delve further into attacks on my character or civility instead of the ACTUAL ISSUE or any of the POINTS that I made, you're only solidifying the suggestion I put down earlier that you WANT to believe this, not that it's actually believable.

What are you talking about? I don't think any conversation has a victor. I'm not trying to win - you are. Relax. If you read my comments on this story you will notice I just asked questions. And no - I don't think we can conclude aliens made us or this world by deciphering ancient tablets - sorry. It's not enough evidence to me.

A+

No, you're wrong.
There's a difference between being 'open minded' and gullible.
If you have any knowledge of history or the scientific method or even how claims are made and defended, than you'd know this article is just plain silly.

Would you call someone closed minded because they're not open to the possibility that the earth might be flat? Of course not. You'd call them correct, hopefully.

Lol, Maybe you could type in bold. I hear it's louder that way

I'd call them correct? Why would I do that?

I'm not gullible. I'm open to whatever you say as long as there is evidence. I never said you guys were wrong. That's what your missing. I never said saladin was incorrect with anything he wrote. I called him a dick.

People want to be right. It's a natural urge. That's why all of you guys have teamed up and are beating the hell out of everything I've said. Yea, maybe I deserve it. Yea, maybe your right. But does it really matter. This is a discussion not a lecture.

SALADIN I know that your a history major, (thus you know everything) but when you tell people what you "know" to be true you gotta listen to them and speak accordingly. I mean, if people are sitting around having a discussion like normal people, do you just walk in shouting that everyone needs to shut up because you know best? No, you sit with them and talk to them about WHY you think your right. I'm normally a nice guy. I don't write in CAPS lock. But when I read your posts I get angry about how much of a douche your being. Here I will repeat the very first post I wrote to you.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Holy shit man your such a hypocrite I can't contain myself. You preach open mindedness but DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF? You've just written the most closed minded post Ive read so far. You preach to keep all possibilities open but then you sit there and say that this particular possibility is "fucking asinine back to front""

This right here was my point from the beginning and you guys just filled in the rest with your own personal anger.

"An open mind is concerned with the EVIDENCE, with what is DEMONSTRABLY true."

Well, SALADIN, when there isn't enough evidence then what can you do besides speculate? I know you think there's plenty of evidence on this matter, and there may be. BUT I'm only 19. I don't know shit. So you know what you do? You teach me what you know like an adult. Quit your temper tantrum about current and tell me YOUR logic then. The only info youve posted is that long ass post above this one. You should be debating and posting links with articles and videos and whatnot, not just spilling out info you have in your head.

Because they are correct- the earth is round...

This article was silly. The claims are laughable. The evidence provided was weak. There was no substantial context of actual history. Calling this article ridiculous is not a close-minded action- it's a logical one.

Now that's funny!

like wow, really, OMG! opinions are like assholes, everyone has one! fer shure! (sarcasm off) grown ups are talking, and intolerance of free speech is ugly at best.

Not All Theories Are Conspiracies

Not all theories are theories either.

Yes they are. Who taught you that kind of logic?

Really.
So what do they become at that point?

Conspiracy theories do not fall in the realm of Scientific theory. One has anecdotal evidence the other object and verifiable evidence.

you left Lindsay Lohan out of the first list of the great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mihCnrZAIM

Further remarks by Michio Kaku (on wormhole traveling: start at 2:30).

edit: actually, this video repeats what I posted in my first video at the very end.

mad props. Michio Kaku stomps ass.

If nominated I will not accept I have a ship to catch!

we could..............but it would take wayyyyyyyy too damn long

even with access to the technology we have now? still points to alien involvement. i find it hard to believe that a bronze-age culture could achieve with slave labor and hand tools what we cant achieve with heavy machinery and computer age tech.

I'm going to guess, we couldn't!

We could easily...but why would we?

Nice post, Thanks!

LOL!
I just got done watching that same episode

I bet that makes taken a bath rather hard old chap!

or perhaps we should look within. i dont see even the most intellegent great apes evolving at the rate that we are. it also says something that all the domestic animals we use are evolving at a higher rate than their wild counterparts due to our interference/guidance... i give both words because of course we will ascribe different meanings to this interaction. some say that genetically modified plants and animals will be our doom, but what exactly does doom mean? it means fate. for good or bad. to throw out the idea that genetic modification could be good for us as a species is foolish at best. at worst it could be suicide.

How about this.

If the brilliant minds of current cannot explain the pyramids. then look it up yourself.

Seriously, they are explained. They're not even that complicated.

Double derp

hurrrrrr. no thought required for answer.... durrrrrp.