Bill Maher: The Existence Of A Black President Is Driving People Crazy

You still haven't shown that in all the errors made and inabilities to overcome failure, it's because he's black. You are arguing that it is a "black" thing but in your argument you made it a partisan thing. You want to start over?

Not really if you look at it. But I see your point too

It's not about who voted for him, it's about what him being in office has spawned in politics. I think there is racial undertone to everything in America whether we want to realize it or not. Stop acting like it's not happening because it is, and this is coming from a 20 year old white guy. The mere sight of a black president has caused chaos in the hearts of suburban America.

bullshit...that ole race card trick aint workin. you can believe what you want.
its crappy policies that have people pissed. big gubment getting bigger..what happened to all that tranparency crap/ /??fannyand freddy.take over of housing...were fucked
any color you want to paint it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you cant see the racial undertones put down the bong or take a few hits more. yes his politics and bigger government play a role but so does his race! I am am talking from someone who is not a democrat. nor liberal so i have nothing to gain from this other than perspective but to claim just his politics is completely and utterly wrong.

how original...calling people racist if they dont agree with you...where have i heard this before......// everywhere.............its horseshit....
you take away how far weve come....

show me where i said i support obama. did i say every person? No! Show me where i said this. Learn to read mofo

your not making any sense

You are so wrong.

WE haven't come that far. It is just more subtle now. You just don't get to hang black people in public anymore and we now can marry outside our race. There have been a few perks, but do not fool yourself into thinking that things are soooooo much better.

all the slaves werent black...and as far as i know my family just got over here 120 years ago and we never owned slaves..they moved to north dakota...not a big slavery state.
you know...its been 200 years ago...i bet you could look up who really owned slaves and chase down there family tree and figure out who owned slaves. i bet they are in government right now for some reason...rockafella yall...

and dont fool yourself thinking you know anything about me or anybody else..
i grew up in new orleans and my first best sleep over buddy was named lemont...
get my drift ......wake up we got a black prez and your telling me things havent changed.

maybe its you who needs to change

LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR....YOU WANNA PLAY THAT RACE BAITING BULLSHIT
YOU NEED TO DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.!

EVERY WHITE MAN ISNT A BIGGOT SLAVE OWNER....

Relax Hunz. The guy you are trying to convince thinks that only a black man has ever been found in a tree. Sometimes it's the ignorance keeps the lights out.

I am sorry you feel that way. I never said that I knew you. Your right all slaves were not black, they were Indians first. In America. I have a white friend also and Im married to a white man, does that mean that I have to forget everything that I have experienced in this lifetime? These are my opinions and my feeling. I respected your and only replied how I saw things. I have heard the argument that it has been two hundred years ago. But in my lifetime Blacks were just given the right to vote, the right to live where they wanted and a little more than 50 years ago was just being concidered humans. You may say that I am crazy, but look it up for yourself. I do not come here to fight with anybody, it is a place to write your feelings and experiences. I am sorry if my experiences do not fit what you believe.

you said quote" You just don't get to hang black people in public anymore "
like i went around hangin anybody...when you start off like that....wtf you expect..?

i feel terrible about what happened in american history...

but every white person does not have a pointy white hood in there closet.!

there were white people who helped end slavery ! ! !

there were white people who voted for BO too ! ! !

go look up the slave owners...thier grand children are around...

go fuck with the people who deserve it.....

That could be any of several elections. My mind goes to Florida with some hanging chads and the kinfolk running the show.

Its not logical at all to think that "the majority of Americans" voted for Obama. 69 million is far from the majority of Americans.

Ok fine if you want to get technical let me rephrase: with respect to the fact that many Americans either forfeit their right to vote or are not of age to vote, the majority of VOTING Americans placed their vote for Obama. This would still suggest a trend with an acceptable scientific margin of error that suggests that it would be safe to theorize that most Americans supported him. Happy?

Because yo ureally did not expect him to win that big. It kind of back fired on most. Let me tell you mostly young people voted for him.

Are you joking? Were you even awake for the campaigns or election? The RNC elected Obama. After 8 of Bush Jr and the lowest approval rating ever, you think the crowd was going to see his twin McCain in the door? Pah-leeze.

I disagree with you on that point

No John, it is not that simple. This is the reality part. Come on you are a smart guy, I think and you know and you have heard from your friend the comment made I am sure. Let us be honest. That is the only way we can get past this hatred and fear or whatever it is that keeps us separate from each other. A real discussion on Race relations in America. It is soooooo past time for one. It is 2010 almost 2011 and sometimes I feel I have went back in time to the late 50's or early 60's.

12-16....2007.

Only 45%. They belive what they see on TV. The other 45% belive the opposite for the same reason.

and there are 10% who believe that they are just systems with their own imperfections......hmm that seems to be a reasonable number

Yes

Only those with money.

I disagree with you on that.

+^d

It has been two years. What magic hat do you think he is wearing?

Ok I understand your frustation. You made some good points, and I cannot at this time debate you on them without doing futher research. Then let us as one people ask him the question WHY have you not done......... Maybe you youself do not care what his color is, but alot of people do. That is what Bill is saying. There is more underlying unhappiness because of his color that if he was white. It is still an issue.

W T F !?

It's NOT the government cause we ELECT them.................It's the unelected corporations that run this country!

It's the media that is owned and run by the right wing that run this country!

More than "some".

I've been hearing this "government is getting too big" argument for years, but I've never heard the rhetoric flying around since Obama took office. Is it just a coincidence that after we have our first black president, we start hearing this "I want my country back" shit? I don't think so.

I believe there are a lot more racists out there than you think. Look at the make-up of the GOP and Tea Puppers, white, middle age and older. No a black face to be found anywhere. What does that say to you?

OMG they're all white!!! The only conceivable reason white people would ever assemble is if they were... KKK MEMBERS!!! AHHHHHH RUN OBAMA RUN FOR YOU LIIIIIFFFFFEEEEE!!!!!!!! OMG and I was driving through the city just the other day and I saw a group of white people inside of... starbucks... OMG... STARBUCKS IS A SECRET KKK MEMBER SAFEHOUSE!!! AHHHH COCO LATTE LYNCHERS!!!!

But only a block away i saw a group of teen playing basketball who were... all black... BLACK PANTHERS AHHHHHHH WHITE PEOPLE RUN YOUR LIFE!!! THE RACE WAR HAS BEGUN!

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You are absolutely correct about this, there were no protests of any nature coming from the right when Reagan or Bush ran up the deficit, just as there were no applause for the Clinton administration when we not only weren't running a deficit but actually had a surplus, There were no howls of "lost freedoms" coming from the right with the passage of the Patriot act, or phone tapping etc..nothing, nada, zero...nowwww with our current president all these issues of which they were just fine with are now the undoing of western civilization according to them....what a transparent load of BS these concerns are...and since President Obama can't undo 8 years of gross incompetence and mismanagement in year and a half they want to return to power the people that created the problems we now face...the wars, the clapped out economy, the wholesale selling out of American industry to China..yes yes lets put them back in office to complete the total annihilation of the middle class.

During the fight for civil rights, the groups that assembled in favor were a mix of of white and black, those opposed were all white, there were no organized groups of black men and women in violent disagreement with the notion that we are all equal citizens .... the military is also a mix of races, just as colleges, the work place, sporting events, police and fire departments also reflect racial diversity ...so yes, we do draw conclusions about a nationwide political group that tolerates openly racist expressions through posters, slogans and exclusion of people of color. They very closely resemble the groups that assembled to oppose the civil rights movement and express the same contempt towards our sitting president as they did for the leader of the civil rights movement, Dr, King. Now what could ever give us the idea that beneath all this contempt is a current of racism..hmmm?

You are facually wrong on every point, but you are correct in vomiting back the story you heard on the TV.

Wrong on all points, interesting , name me the national group of black men and women who opposed civil rights? Your comment to my post just further adds credence to the assertion that Maher made of the level ignorance in this country.

LMAO! I'd rather respond to one of your more objective, albeit ludicrous assertions. The national debt during Clinton's first term was icreased 1.18 Tril. The second term national debt was increased .45 Tril. What is this "surplus" you are talking about?

"Your comment to my post just further adds credence to the assertion that Maher made of the level ignorance in this country." A mirror would do you good.

There was, in FACT, a budget surplus when Clinton left office. It was 127 billion dollars. +127 billion dollars. One more time,for the uninformed, A SURPLUS of 127 billion dollars in the federal budget. Google it.

Sure!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

Since you like Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_Budget_Amendment " During the two terms of president Bill Clinton the country ran a yearly budget surplus.[11]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget "Since 1970, the U.S. Federal Government has run deficits for all but four years (1998–2001)[48" hm, those look the years Clinton was president. Just one more then im done doing your homework for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism "After this combination of tax hikes and spending reductions, the United States was able to reduce the $3.8 trillion public debt by $360 billion and create the largest federal budget surplus ($236 billion in fiscal year 2000) as well as the longest period of sustained economic growth in United States history"

OK Chief, you can not have both a debt and a surplus. Get it?
1998 deficit = $113.05 billion, 2001 deficit = $133.29 billion
Do facts elude you? Sorry about your gullibility.
I will not try to educate you. Your reluctance to learning the truth is quite evident.
If you get over your insolence, here's your clue.
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

A little too much coffee today?

Idealistic? Is that your way of saying that you refuse to believe information and data archived and gleaned from many sources? If you were following the dialogue, you would know that I have quoted no less than three sources. You were invited to bring your contrary data. Instead, you brought ad homonym. If you were following the dialogue you might be able to make a relative assertion instead of choosing your nongermane points a la carte. If you were following the dialogue you might see why the last graph only going to '06 is relevant to the point. And no, the above graph does not (how convenient) include unfunded liabilities while the one above it does. Your grandkids will be paying for the current policy decisions, just as was the case for the previous regeime. With exponential debt growth, there is no such thing as "short-term" fiscal policy.

Because it is a misnomer meant to distract & confuse. Like "Patriot Act" or "Stimulus Package." There is no such thing as "short-term" fiscal policy.

And just like Social Security, their ill effects will last forever.

or it's because they are racists!

Sorry, but he is not wrong. I was alive then and saw what was happening. He is completly correct.

You wanna leave some kind of clue as to what you are talking about?

peace RastusJr

He gets piad to pander to a particular audience. Sell commercials.

That was A W E S O M E

Cute.

BRAVO ! clap clap clap clap clap . . . . +^d!

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Bill can come across as pompous and arrogant sometimes. I agree with most of his politics, but he talks down to the audience just like the High-and-Mighty Glenn Beck does. Even in the above interview Bill is quoted saying: "Most Americans are stupid." His misanthrope shtick gets old. He's smarter and better than that.

Its true, I mean honestly most Americans just dont have the time or patience to get into politics and sadly the truth is so spun around sometimes that its hard to really understand whats going on. If it becomes a trend, most people follow. The more people say one thing, the more it becomes true even if its not. We shouldnt have to deal with most of this shit but at the same time, if we dont deal with it, things are dealt by the all-mighty power hungry politicians.

No

doesn't look like it.