Libertarians : Conservative's attention seeking little brother !?
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Warning : Strong Language not for baby ears...:)
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gypsysailor
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Very well put rant! I like it. This describes perfectly what Libertarians are, which is batshit stupid.
- 12 months ago
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gypsysailor
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Wicks934
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Thank you, figgdimension, for this post. As a person that once, long ago, considered Libertarianism and found its fault, I applaud this video.
- 12 months ago
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Wicks934
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figgdimension
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Wicks934:
I understand and your welcome I think we have all had moments where we flirt with the Libertarian Ideas of the past , but putting into practice in modern times as far as corporations regulating themselves and no taxes I can't see any point or positive gain except for the rich elites and I'm sure we are all agreed in the fact that they have enough! Thanks for the comment Wicks...:)'
- 12 months ago
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figgdimension
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figgdimension:
You are welcome and thank you too.
- 12 months ago
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Wicks934
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figgdimension
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People who hate on art piss me off more tho just for clarity
- 12 months ago
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figgdimension
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Saladin
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I know internet evangelists love to think otherwise, but the bottom line is that this video is right, even though the people he's describing aren't really Libertarians.
Believe it or not, we've not only had Libertarians run for President on major party labels (Goldwater as a Republican for instance), they've actually run the fucking country before (Coolidge and Ford are good examples).
In all cases, they either prove to be completely useless or corporate shills, or both.
The sad (sad for you anyway, I think it's hilarious) reality is that Libertarians in their "true" forms (be it anarchist or minarchist) are less than 1% of the population and all of your citizen allies are either Diet Republicans or assholes like the Teabaggers.
I won't bother to tell you you're wrong, because that's pretty much a waste of time until you can understand why the axioms of your movement are inapplicable, all I'll say is that no one fucking agrees with you, and they'd much rather stay well the hell away.
If it makes you feel better, you can think of them all as "statist sheeples" while you drive on our publicly funded roads, ok?
- 12 months ago
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Saladin
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ThatCrazyLibertarian [removed]
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Saladin:
Great comment and insights I think the video would be better if he didn't talk into the mic so close but , ya know can't all be happy thanks for stopping bye sir its just comedy...kinda
- 12 months ago
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figgdimension
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
are you still hanging around defending nothing saying less?
- 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
If it really upsets you that much and you think Im shitting on you...and, Im not .As an act of good faith on my part I will remove this post that seems to have upset your delicate sensitivities and resorted you to attack me personally and my work...(weird) it was not supposed to be taken personally sir perhaps you should calm Down... just say the word and I'll delete it no need to get all worked up and not get a good sleep over it geez I didn't make the video yo...! but if your too sensitive I'll remove it from current even tho its #3 in comedy , cause Im not trying to make a personal attack its hot in the kitchen so perhaps your skin ain't tough enough for this..? ;/ say the word
- 12 months ago
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Varex_Sythe
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
Though it is true that the government it the cause of problems and is not the solution to every problem, it is not the cause of all problems and it is force behind the solution to quite a few problems. You are painting the whole picture as black and white, and although black and white are a part of what there is to paint, there is a lot of gray in between that you are missing.
- 12 months ago
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Varex_Sythe
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UtopianSky
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
You have to realize that our main view of Libertarians here on Current are the Shanklinites; and I know you agree those people are morons.
You do have a good reputation here, because you are not on the extreme lunatic fringe.
You say:
"It upsets me to have wasted over a year of my life posting on this site only to be continually marginalized by people who refuse to admit that government is not the answer to this country's problems when it is actually the source of them."Well, that's getting a little fringy- like the video describes.
In reality, the government IS the answer to SOME problems, just as it is the cause of OTHER problems.
The Shanklinites want to eliminate all government, and that is nonsense; it ignores the reason why humanity invented government in the first place.
Government, like all human inventions, is a work in progress, and needs to evolve. Tossing it out is like getting rid of the Medical profession because cancer still exists.
- 12 months ago
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UtopianSky
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Saladin
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
There's no reason to take this personally, in my opinion you're mistaken in calling yourself a Libertarian, because you're not.
Everyone should be skeptical of government and, in a better world, you could call yourself a conservative. Back in say, the 1960's, that would have been the appropriate label for you.
But as far as I can tell, outside of Shanklinism or Randian nonsense, there is no coherent definition of Libertarianism.
"And if life, liberty and property (I can only guess that's the axiom to which you are making up) are not applicable in this country then we all are in deep shit..."
That's exactly what I'm talking about though, you don't even understand why the axiom is wrong.
Let me ask you a question and, hopefully, it will lead you to understand why this entire notion is so annoying to other people.
Who, in all seriousness, doesn't believe in life, liberty and property? Seriously, who? The entire crux of political issues in the United States is not WHETHER we should have those rights, it's to what -extent- those rights should exist. Even Libertarians argue within these grounds.
I mean, given that definition, everyone is essentially a Libertarian, which makes the definition useless.
It either means Shanklin Mike or it means pretty much nothing at all. Because no one is about to come out and say they support death, slavery and theft.
All you've done here is extrapolated out a (valid) criticism that doesn't apply to you, and then taken it personally.
I'm sure you don't agree with these people anymore than we do, so why take it as an insult to you when we go after people like Mike?
If you're really leaving, I'm sad to see you go. You're one of the most valuable members on this site. I hope something like this didn't make you feel unwelcome here.
- 12 months ago
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Saladin
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figgdimension
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Varex_Sythe:
I love grey thanks :)
- 12 months ago
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UtopianSky:
Thank you :) /\
- 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
hopeless...
- 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
I.m sorry to see you go but here's something beautiful to make your departure more creative and not a personal attack you are the one touting a political ideology as your namesake sorry you didn't see the humor in the video I didn't make it... I just posted it geez... sensitive much? but anyway sir no hard feelings seriously and like or don't like my art I just dont see the relevance of your belief to my REAL life and money your being quite trivial and immature but to each his own and GOODBYE!
- 12 months ago
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bailey78:
AAH shucks some body must think thats not funny :*( they must be a liberal I wonder is that how thatcrazylibertarian would vote??? Naa thats just crazy talk :)
- 12 months ago
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bailey78
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bailey78:
I think it is :)
- 12 months ago
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bailey78:
crazy is...as crazy does... :)
- 12 months ago
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bailey78:
funny that is..
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bailey78
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figgdimension:
Yeah Me too
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figgdimension:
Yep an them some crazy folks
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figgdimension:
Thats what I was Going for :)
- 12 months ago
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Varex_Sythe
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Two thumbs up!
- 12 months ago
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Varex_Sythe
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Varex_Sythe:
Thanks I thought it was giggly sure stirred the animosity for comedy hehehehe thats funny... thanks for stopping thru ;)
- 12 months ago
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figgdimension
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figgdimension
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this video is funny
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David_H [removed]
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David_H:
I dunno ask one???
I don't vote party lines but thats not the point my draconian friend lighten up its comedy why don't you get a video camera a youtube account and make it silly rabbit... trix are for kids - 12 months ago
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David_H:
The relevant part of your statement is the word "too"
hehehehe
really are you fo real?
David_h
RFLMAO "dirty too"
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im gonna wet my pants have a great day sir truly your a gas... - 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
K... voted you /\ great come back
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David_H:
Speak for yourself my corporate puppet friends...
Your a little fragile aren't you better take your meds... - 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
How is it bogus you just said and I quote " I'd rather spend my money on land and precious metals. " so I'm right You wouldn't stoop to look at art just worthless metal by the way my paintings are full of precious metals and sell for thousands(as did many great artists during the depression era ,art appreciates rocks don't) economy be damned . I'm sorry you know not of the historical significance of art , and art in Revolution is all important my Libertarian friend perhaps before critiquing my art you could learn your own history. Perhaps before using abstracts like mediocrity to describe my work that's world known and I have collectors all over the world you would try to articulate your feelings more accurately rather than using an abstract word that I'm not convinced you understand the meaning of... or at least are not applying it well.. . I've never had one negative comment and I sell to who I want when I want not many artists can say that throughout all of history sir because art good or bad is a personal journey relative to each viewer since the cave drawings . if you encounter something in the art that displeases you don't blame the artist it's not always what he see's that is important is it... so good , bad they are irrelevant dear sir , thats all just a matter of opinion and yours sir is the minority of one (painting is 3-d and made from precious and semi-precious stones , gold,pearl,Pink Tiffany diamonds,ruby,garnet,emeralds, and more ...this is all the same painting evolving with dark and light a piece that changes every time it's viewed never before accomplished it also changes optically when turned illusions abound "the alchemist's" works w/chromadepth glasses for free on your computer because my work transcends computer digital 3-d technologies ) don't attack art cause your angry Im not the enemy.
- 12 months ago
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figgdimension
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
...and nobody voted u down paranoid much?
- 12 months ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
The worth of my art is not based in monetary gains anyway no good art is... I get standing ovations and fan mail every day I answer every one personally I talk to every viewer I have long time collectors and new clients every single day and I don't show in public galleries who does that and I live in Cincy not New York not Paris not LA not UK lowly little Cincinnati Ohio I'm not convinced you wouldn't try to buy a piece either if you saw it in person you'd ewwww and ahhhhh just like every other person your not so different as you'd like to think get the glasses and take a look it'll be cooler than anything you've ever seen before I promise cross my heart
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figgdimension
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figgdimension:
some nasty replies have been removed by me and LIB he attacked my art cause he thought I was attacking Libertarianism so blah blah blah he posted up Figg's art sucks it was removed all is well.. but read on it gets even better
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David_H:
He removed one that made mine make no sense tweek
- 12 months ago
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David_H:
no Im a flurry of activity and type faster than you think...don't think you know me you don't.
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David_H:
I always check my threads I have internet etiquette unlike you sir... and I answer all questions rebuttals and replies you fault me that you get a grip
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David_H:
I said i knew you? I was just kidding geez lighten up this is COMEDY
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David_H:
NO , who the F are U?
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WagonMaster
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Regardless of the denyers, Idaho is a Libertarian run state.That's one of the reasons we rank one step above the lowest state , Miss. , in beneficial social programs, like education, child care, disabled and elderly care, to name a couple. We are top in ignorance and good ole boys and all due to a Libertarian mind set. Just listen to our Governer for a while for the epitome of Libertarianism. These people are major ass-visors and are running not only Idaho, but the so-called Tea Party as well. Despicable wretches.
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Saladin
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David_H:
Not all new ideas are good ideas. And not all change is positive change.
I'd accept a corrupt Democrat like Obama over an asshole Libertarian like Bob Barr any fucking day.
And, newsflash, Libertarians are not somehow immune to corruption or incompetence.
- 12 months ago
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Saladin
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David_H:
I don't think in boxes people peed in... :)
- 12 months ago
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