Republicans say Fuck You America We Just Want To Make A Black Man Look Bad At All Cost
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TrishR
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And we don't care if the rest of you have to eat alpo.
- 10 months ago
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JohnA
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This is why I stopped coming on Current. Total blatent race card playing. If you don't agree exactly with Obama, you must be a racist. Are you kidding me, have we not moved passed this yet?
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JohnA
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Almibry
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I wish this were less true...
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Almibry
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PigFarmington
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i've been saying this from the get-go
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bike10
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So much for the party of inclusion and the big tent.
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bike10:
To be a Tea Parrty supporter you need only be disappointed with the direction of the federal government, That's about a big a tent as you can get.
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JohnA
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oppressed1
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Has absolutely nothing to do with race.
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oppressed1:
The biggest crime is ignoring the rampant racism in this country
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Almibry
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imrnlil:
Do you really believe that just because racism is no longer as overt as it has been in the past that it no longer exists? Anyone with half a brain can see how minorities are systematically discriminated against in nearly every area of life in America: education, employment, housing, the justice system etc. I'm also assuming you aren't distracted by the window dressing of Affirmiative Action which is really just a bandaid for a bullet wound.
Just because the judge doesn't call you a nigger after he gives you the maximum sentence for your first offence it doesn't mean that he/she was Impartial, even if your teacher doesn't make you sit in the back of the classroom, it doesn't mean that he/she did everything in his/her power to make sure you had all the tools at your disposal to make sure you passed. Your denial does not change the fact that there are way too many people in power who believe that certain environments produce better citizens (i.e. rich WHITE communities produce the useful members of societies). Nevermind the fact that there is plenty of evidence supporting the idea that good people can come from anywhere, most of the people running the US are white males and black president or not, there are only enough minorities in power to count as "token" members.
Here's some small bits of evidence for your intellect and moral thingy (heh I said thingy):
http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/06/whats_racism_thats_harder_for_youth_to_an... - 10 months ago
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Almibry
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Almibry
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imrnlil:
Simply dismissing the "race card" without any explanation for your dismisal (other than your obviously privileged/sheltered/misinformed position) isn't really an argument. A better argument would be "Since Obama is half black and half white, he has to be accepted by everyone!"
P.S. I edited this like 3 times. Get over it.
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Almibry
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imrnlil:
HAHA...because racism no longer exists.... so why play the race card, right?
I'll let you know i'm being sarcastic. You obviously need me to tell you.
You obviously don't read, but I urge you to read this: http://andrewgelman.com/2011/04/american_belief/
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oppressed1:
None whatsoever, he is a bad President no matter what color. I'm shocked I am still seeing this.
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kayopunk
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The American people suffer in this mess, but the Republican boys in the beltway just care about their self serving interests. Maybe the representatives in DC need a reminder from the people who voted for them.
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kayopunk:
I'd start off waaay smaller. Go to your city council meetings.
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Almibry
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demsbeans527
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As far as Washington Republicans, with the exception of Mitch McConnell and a few other red state politicians, I think it was initially about losing power and the fear that President Obama would actually change politics in Washington. He had many of us convinced that this is what he would do so, it is entirely plausible that many of them thought the same.
I think McConnell's war cry was a combination of feeling slighted because he was not regarded or revered as much as he thought he should have been by this president. I remember there being some complaint that his advice was not sought on something or another. This spurred (egged on no doubt by the other red state racists), his attitude of "who does this black man think he is?" and his call to see this president fail at all costs.
Those that feared their gravy train might be derailed, rallied around McConnell, Boehenr, Cantor, etc., and so began their campaign to destroy the president. The racists, seeing opportunity, jumped on the bandwagon. The Washington republicans noticed the uptick in support due to this and decided to take advantage of this added support. This was not hard at all for them to do if they remembered that they had the use of the Southern Strategy at their disposal. They can practice all of the intolerance they want so long as they throw the words, God, Christian, Patriotic and Bible around to rev up the base which includes the racists. Along with that McCarthyite goody 'Socialism'.
In my opinion, the privelidged have colluded with the racists to see that this president does not succeed. Now, that he has shown willing to appease the privileged, it is too late to back out of the plan because the racists have redirected the message and gained a major stronghold of their base. It has to play out now and although many of us that are disgusted thinks this should be the thing to sink them, it won't. It won't because they have the media on their side and the moneyed-class and that is what this struggle is really about. The haves vs. the have-nots, the corporations vs. the serfs, the haves are driving the agenda that suits them and are using the have-nots, via giving lip service their views, feeding them propaganda, and bank-rolling their rallies.
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demsbeans527
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Certainly one of their motives is to make the president look bad. Another one is ideological.
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imrnlil:
So why now and why with this particular president? They didn't give a flyin fck when we were marched off into an unprecedented unfunded war in Iraq. They didn't give a flyin fk about the debt until now. My observation is this....for all the crap that the GOP wants us to believe about the richest folks not needing to pay higher taxes so they can invest and hire people who are out of work, why the hell haven't they done so in the past 10 years while they are making record profits? I have nothing against the millionaires and billionaires but really why in the hell should the working poor pay more? while they don't pay period? or pay little to nothing? Why? Those rich bastards aren't hiring. They are investing in labor and putting people overseas to work. What a crock of crap the GOP wants us to believe. NOT buying the BS. Their only focus is taking President Obama down and they could care less that the casualty from their idiocy will be the entire Country. What blooming idiots.
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kpfromdc:
..none of it would work if the electorate did not buy the repuke line.
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kpfromdc:
TRUTH! Thanks.
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budsnews
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With all of the little issues brought up in right wing echo chambers,seems to me the rethugs want to commit murder by a thousand cuts.You can read the repeated nonense in some of the comments on this page.Over and over again we have to teach these faux news sheeple,if they care enough about America to learn.
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Putting the country in jeopardy simply to make the sitting President look bad in the name of politics seems like an act of treason.
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EdJoyProductions:
Treason indeed but, we can do nothing about it. Who is going to hold them accountable for it? Who is even going to call it out for what it is?
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EdJoyProductions:
No one was saying a damn thing about the democrats when the were trying to lose the Iraq were to make Bush look bad. Politics is Politics.
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SandyBerman:
Thank you for the posting. The penalties should be harsher though. Sedition isn't even being spoke of. Americans are starting to wake up. I think that the dialog regarding politics is very healthy.
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These GOP fanatics told President Obama, even before he was inaugurated, that they would not cooperate. Some are angry because he is half black; some are angry because he was relatively unknown before he ran for president, and some are just mud-headed, Limbaugh-sucking lunatics. No matter what, they never wanted to see him succeed, and so they don't care if this country and this world plunge into economic chaos.
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Lairderg:
They are telling him this to his face everyday. What part don't he get? All of it!
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imrnlil:
We are not broke, it's a big fat lie! They want us to think that way.
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SandyBerman:
You wrote a great article. Thank you Sandy.
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imrnlil:
Don't you try that on me. You go tell that to these guys....Scott, who once partnered with George W. Bush in the Texas Rangers baseball team, now runs an investment firm and owns the Solantic chain of walk-in urgent care centers in Florida. After graduating from law school, Scott practiced law in Dallas, Texas, where he specialized in health care mergers and acquisitions [3]. In 1987, he founded and became chief operating officer of a hospital chain that grew into the $23 billion-a-year Columbia/HCA. A 1995 report described how aggressive acquisitions and mergers had turned his original $125,000 investment into 6.1 million shares of the company, worth more than $250 million [4].
In 1997, a few weeks after the FBI raided HCA hospitals in five states, Scott was ousted as CEO and three executives were indicted on charges of Medicare fraud. The FBI's investigation found that the hospital chain had been overbilling Medicare and giving kickbacks to doctors who steered patients to its hospitals. The overbilling included upcoding lesser procedures to get higher reimbursements and billing for lab tests that were not medically necessary and were not ordered by physicians. The situation was settled with a set of guilty pleas and criminal and civil fines totaling $1.7 billion [5]. The U.S. Department of Justice referred to the matter as the "largest health care fraud case in U.S. history." [6]
Columbia/HCA also had difficulty with the Federal Trade Commission, which accused it of anti-competitive misconduct. In 1998, the company agreed pay a $2.5 million civil penalty to settle FTC charges that it violated a 1995 FTC order to divest hospitals in Utah and Florida in a timely manner. The complaint also alleged that Columbia/HCA had failed to honor a hold separate agreement relating to the Utah hospitals, and had violated an earlier FTC order by failing to satisfy the conditions on which the Commission had approved its acquisition of a competing hospital chain [7].
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qZNYTuiYnaYJ:www.insurancereformwatch.org/opposition/cpr.shtml+president+bush+administration+buying+600+toilet+seats&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
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letsliveinpeace
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imrnlil:
We are not broke, the GOPigs have jammed things up so we can't sell anymore T-Bills. We can get the budget under control, and Boehner was offered a major deal to cut the deficit, and what did he do? NO! Why? Because the TEA-BAGGERS will cut his throat if he raises taxes, that's why! The GOP wasted billions for their friends by fighting 2 wars without raising taxes to pay for the damn things. They didn't negotiate with drug companies for good prices for Medicare-D and gave away billions more. Now all the sudden they had a " COME TO JESUS" moment and repent all their spending, along the way they try to destroy the black man the people had the nerve to put in the White House, no sir can't have that. I think some of these pigs need to be sent to Gitmo, since they are obviously enemy combatants, bent on doing massive damage to the country. OH, and while they are down there, let them try a little water-boarding, just for old times sake, after all it is not torture, according to them. Kill the Bush tax cuts, kill the wars, kill the sweet deal for big pharma and close the loopholes that allow profits to be kept offshore and not taxed. There goes most of the deficit right there.
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imrnlil:
One more question, why didn't GOPigs talk this way the 8 years Bush was in the White House?
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imrnlil:
Not as bad as bushie,who never added the cost of war(s) to his yearly deficits.Among other transgressions.
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imrnlil:
Ronnie Raygun raised the debt limit 18 times,and argued for 'not politicizing' the action.
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tlbuffin:
You're welcome!
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tlbuffin:
Agreed!
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imrnlil:
Really?? Well to hear the new GOP tea party pit bulls and Michelle Backwards, we aren't broke at all and we should just let the Country go belly up. If we are to believe these Loons we certainly can just keep on spending because we are not broke. We have the money to keep paying our bills...or as Bakwards says we can just pay the interest on the loans....Geesh
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imrnlil:
If we are broke then ask yourself why we are broke? For one we have had to shore the unemployed up or have them dying in the street. Unemployment is at "10%" why is that? Because a group of wealthy individuals have decided to hold our country hostage by orchestrating massive layoffs, in order to keep their tax cuts. We are in several wars that are sucking our resources, why is that? Because the war profiteers won't allow us to pull out and are holding our country hostage to the fear or terrorism to keep the money flowing. We are not generating enough income, why not? Because the greed of the rich and a completely insane bunch of people who believe that corporate rule is better than government oversight and is just what this country needs and are actively seeking the destruction of government.
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SandyBerman:
A very good posting. Thank you once againe.
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SandyBerman:
I think claiming Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid are bankrupting the country is an example of misdirection - while the repugs dip into the surplus these programs have been running since they created, they make it sound like grandma's support, and not fighting wars all over the world & ladling big bucks into the bank accounts of the rich, are why we are now in a tight situation, and they make so much noise in hopes that people will forget that the Big 3 aren't part of the budgets they claim to want to slash* - they're funded by withholdings from salaries.
*Unless those budgets are paying for bombing other countries or gigantic information-gathering programs in the name of fighting terrorism, or letting the rich be free of supporting the nation that provides the runways & air traffic control for their private jets.
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I'm not sure that the issue is entirely racist, though I will not argue that racist undertones are not a big motivation for some.
I think that this has to do more with party lines than it does with racism. The fact that Obama is half black does not hurt for the conservatives who are racist, but I think it has more to do with the polar politics that conservative politicians have adopted where you are either with them or you are an enemy and must be destroyed. Obama's not really with them, so he is an enemy and must be destroyed. It does not matter if he is president nor does it matter if he is pushing for things that the conservatives were for between 2001 and 2008. What matters is that he is the enemy because he is not on their team. We've seen this bullshit with the healthcare bill which was dubbed "Obamacare" as well. Obama incorporated a lot of ideas that came from conservatives and let the public know that those ideas originated from those conservatives. But those very same conservatives shot the plan down because it was not one of their own proposing the ideas.
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Varex_Sythe:
And their team is against the people, so they are our enemy?
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This is so pitiful,playing the race card to try and make hay out of this. Really, really pitiful. A new low for liberals, if that were possible. So how come it isn't sexism when libs beat up on Palin or Bachman? Rhetorical question. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one.
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Paratus:
Considering the number of racist emails, pictures, and comments from right wingers about Obama it's fair to say that some, not all, right wingers hate obama because he is black.
As far as sexism goes - Palin and Bachmann are idiots. It has nothing to do with them being women. Talking about how stupid they are is not sexist. Showing the white house with a watermelon field as the front lawn is racist.
People like Limbaugh, who is a large mouthpiece for the right, has not hidden his racism about obama and neither have the tea party members with their racist signs. Instead of crying about people lumping all the right together - start criticizing these people when they do it, call them out for it.. instead of making excuses for them.
That is all the right does. They make excuses for the racist in their party. Why? They must agree with them.
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moodyblue:
I'v had a lot of those racist e-mails, pictures. They have been coming since the primary. They disgust me.
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Seems to me, the Republican Party is guilty of Rico Law violations. Prosecute them I say!
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VoyagerFilms:
You know it!
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letsliveinpeace
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letsliveinpeace
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Good post thanks for posting!
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George W Bush: We Will Never Forget
George W. Bush, on January 15, 2009, you stood before the American people and said that there is a battle being waged between "a small band of fanatics [that] demands total obedience to an oppressive ideology" and "[an]other system [that] is based on the conviction that freedom is the universal gift of Almighty God and that liberty and justice light the path to peace."Make no mistake, Mr. Bush, you belong to that small band of fanatics. That band of fanatics has been terrorizing people since the beginning of recorded history and probably well before. You are only the latest incarnation of an evil and timeless beast that has worn the faces of Adolph Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Tojo Hideki. Let us not mince words, Mr. Bush, what you did to this country is exactly what those men did to theirs: you stole power by filthy means, you committed the nation to disastrous wars, and left your country in ruin. If this was your goal, then you can pronounce a hearty "Mission Accomplished."
Mr. Bush, you have indeed left this country in ruins. In the course of our history, we have faced many determined and terrible enemies, from King George to Adolph Hitler, but none have done what you did: you have brought this country to its knees. When you think of your legacy, you can be sure of only one thing: future historians will point to your presidency as a turning point in the nation's history - the start of a long and perhaps irreversible decline in our fortunes and our prestige.
You, Mr. Bush, are the result of a tragic accident: the apocalyptic convergence of absolute power with the complete absence of virtue. You are the scion of a family that has long used political power for personal gain. Your people are parasites clinging to the jugular of the nation. You used your father's connections at every step of your career: to get into school, to start businesses, to escape from service in Vietnam, to become governor of Texas, and to become a candidate for the presidency of the United States. As a child you tortured small animals, as a Yale student you engaged in sadistic initiation rites in your fraternity, as governor of Texas you executed 152 people. You had blood on your hands when you took office, Mr. Bush, and you have added oceans of blood during these eight long years.
In your speech, you said, "I have been blessed to represent this nation." Mr. Bush, you never represented this nation. You represented only a small group of criminals who used the apparatus of government to channel money - our money - into their pockets. You and your henchmen looted the Treasury of the United States. You ran up debts that we, our children and our grandchildren will have to pay off. You used the entire Middle East as a money laundering operation for corporations like Halliburton, Bechtel and the Carlyle Group. You sent our tax dollars via Iraq and Afghanistan to bank accounts in Houston and Zurich. Make no mistake, you did not represent the people of the United States: you represented a group of gangsters, criminals and fascists. You robbed this country blind and called it government.
Read more:
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/19846 - 10 months ago
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letsliveinpeace:
Everything you say about Bush is correct. He lied to us and brought our economy down.
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SFirman:
Them he walk away from all the damages he and his administration cause. he should be setting in jail. The things they got away with. %^#&^@%
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letsliveinpeace:
Agree!!
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letsliveinpeace:
Good post.Thank you for posting. I believe that ronnie raygun really got this nation in a tailspin when the great unwashed voted that ass into office.
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Republicans say Fu*& You America We Just Want To Make A Black Man Look Bad At All Cost, SO ANOTHER BLACK MAN WON'T STAND A CHANCE AT RUNING AGAIN.
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SandyBerman:
Not a chance!
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SandyBerman:
I believe a women could win. I don't think these two women's running now will win!
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SandyBerman:
Not yet!
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SandyBerman:
A JEWISH Black woman - you'll have a trifecta!!
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That's precisely what I've been saying since before the election. It's also been stated by key Rethuglinazis in Congress that their main task was to both make Obamas presidency a failure and make him a one term president. Why, knowing this would anyone in their right mind WANT to negotiate or compromise with any of them? Obama?
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WagonMaster:
With the Republican House Obama has to try to negotiate with them. If not what does he do.
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SFirman:
Use the 14th amendment.... sect 4
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letsliveinpeace:
I've heard pros and cons on that. i say go for it Obama. Let congress take you to court.
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SFirman:
Agreed!
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SFirman:
Obama actually has to wait until all other options aer exhausted and then when the markets beging to crash and interest rates skyrocket, he will only then be able to use the 14th ammendment options, not before. It has to be an "emergency" situation before he can stand on the 14th.
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wynnmeg61:
I think the options are getting exhausted. If he has to wait for the market to crash, interest rates go up, it will hurt the economy more and the people.
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To understand President Obama read the Art of War by Sun Tzu.
The strategy Obama is using is right out of this book and if you follow this book not only in war but in life you will come out on top.
The first rule of this book is not to let your enemy know your plan of attack, keep them off balance and let them make the mistakes.
The rest just falls into place. - 10 months ago
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GRC54:
good book
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GRC54:
good comment, bravo!!!
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Here I am already considering how much money I can spare to a Sanders campaign on one hand, while liberals begin to show their racist stripes on the other hand. You know, maybe the Obama budget offer could have been much worse. I hear there are some pentagon cuts included, and although much of it stinks it is a better deal than Bush would have cut. One thing is never the equivalent of another, and throughout life I've found equivocation to be a preface of a lie. Democrats, even when they are 6 tenths wrong, are not the equivalent of Republicans when they are 9 tenths wrong. There is always a difference.
It is clear from the article that Republicans are using racist fear and fantasy to hurt Obama in the negotiations. What's the difficulty here?
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thedirtman:
Right on!!
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I think the Repubs are pandering to the tea party so they can do well in the Congress in 2012.
They will come around, but they have to show that they are tough on the budget to win big in 2012
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nada they are the same dontcha think?
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tverdell:
They are the tea party.
- 10 months ago
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letsliveinpeace
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cherry5000
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tverdell:
the only thing the repcons and the teabaggers talk about was a women's uterus.
- 10 months ago
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cherry5000
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tverdell
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cherry5000:
Yeah, I think they threw in the towel on the Presidential election and are just going for Congressional seats.
That's why Obama can ignore Progressives.
- 10 months ago
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tverdell
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yakamoo
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he's only half black and why is that the only thing democrats can come up with to defend Obama is ther no other defense for his actios other than he's black?
- 10 months ago
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yakamoo
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chew_chew
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I am not certain if, though I do have an opinion, the Republicans treat the President so badly because of Republican bigotry or simply because the President is a Democrat (I suspect some of both). But, from my perspective at least, *why* they do it is not the big issue. The big issue for me is that they *do* treat the President and America badly.
Some here, and elsewhere, say the debt ceiling is a joke. That may be. For a long while there was no "debt ceiling." If Congress entertained and passed measures which increased spending, there was no need to come back later and raise the debt ceiling to pay for items which Congress had already voted to pay for (if they vote to incur the expense, they are, by proxy, voting to pay for it)... unless you are of the belief that, say, Bush and Cheney would start a war based on lies and Congress would go along, but have no intention of paying the bills. Raising the debt ceiling is *not* incurring additional expenses, it is allowing for expenses already incurred and previously agreed to, to be paid.
How anyone can attempt the argument that not paying bills on time will not adversely affect the economy, is beyond me.
If any of us were to stop paying a credit card bill, for example, we can absolutely expect the credit card company to cut off our credit. Our individual credit worthiness would suffer as a result, and we would either no longer be able to secure credit, or we would be forced to pay higher interest on any credit we may secure. Like it or not, it is how things work.
In this regard, America's debt is different only in its scale. If America does not pay bills which it has already promised to pay, the credit card company (the global bond market) will react in a predictable manner. Depending on the severity of America's default (how long does it go on that we do not pay our bills, and what portion - if any - of our previously incurred debts are we able to keep current), the bond market will react accordingly, raising the rate at which America must borrow. The worse and longer we default, the higher the rates will become. It is not rocket science or a jigsaw puzzle.
So, not paying our bills on time, or not paying them at all, will adversely affect interest rates America pays for credit. Should that happen, the dominoes start falling. Since all U.S. interest rates are tied to the government bond market, directly or indirectly, rates will go up across the board. Individuals and businesses will be forced to pay higher rates (although, businesses will pass the higher rates on to consumers). So, cost of goods will rise. American citizens would find ourselves with even less money to spend, in the face of even further escalating costs for food, gas, clothing, etc.
The only people who win in a scenario like that - more accurately, who *think* they will win in a scenario like that - are the Republicans. They wish to burden Mr Obama's administration with economic calamity not of his own making, and then to continue (trying) to blame it all on him. They seem to perceive that as a big advantage in the 2012 elections. My perspective is that it will cost them dearly. Unless they have somehow rigged the elections (which they demonstrate publicly and almost daily they are willing to do), the Republicans are going to suffer their worst defeats in history in the 2012 elections. The tide is rising against them.
The Republican's behavior in the debt ceiling "negotiations" is obscene. Is that bigotry, or just un-American and foolish?
- 10 months ago
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chew_chew
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betaben
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,Some people need to go back to school and learn the English language so they can express themselves better without the offensive language. You lose a lot of attention and validity by using gutter talk. Too, some always have to play the race card. It's not about race. It's about simple economics. Leadership, or lack of it, does not display color one way or another. Leaders lead, They come up with plans and ways to implement those plans. They inspire others to participate and make their contributions. They encourage cooperation, regardless of party.
In the words of a down to earth comedian "Get er done!".
- 10 months ago
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betaben
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TheAmbivalante
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Any other time, I would suggest to have ended that headline at the word America however Mitch "The Amazing TurtleMan" McConnell has stated openly and repeatedly that his goal, and by extension, the GOPea Party, is to defeat Obama.
Get that? A US Senator hops on the tube and does not announce his concerns for the MILLIONS of people screwed by Wall Street or bringing home the troops from a war his party started. Nope. He states that his (or should we say (ALEC's) number one goal is taking down the President of the United States.
So, with all due respect to any Right Wingers reading this, fuck off. But if you still have the balls to keep reading, please do.
It doesn't matter that the GOP left the next guy a steaming shit sandwich for an economy (when Bush took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion, when he left, it was $10.7 trillion, a difference of $4.97 trillion), and two shit sandwich wars, and of course, the gourmet shit sandwich known as TARP.
Again, with all due respect to any Right Wingers reading this, fuck off. But if you still have the balls to keep reading, please do.
Instead of working with the Democrats to right the ship with things like institutional change on private, for-profit healthcare (the costs of which are crippling the US), the douchenozzles in the GOP set a record for filibusters, cockblocking anything coming from the the Dems from health care to the color of the sky.
Since Barack Obama became our President, the GOP stance has been NO at all costs. They've been sucking the ALEC dick (ALECexposed.org), pushing to break government so that the future is safe for their corporations. That's not conjecture. That's their stated intent.
They've reintroduced fiscal policy that is simply re-skinned Trickle Down Reganomics and refused to use government for good. Their media arm, FOX, is pumping so much shit into the airwaves that it's actually an EPA crisis.
Frankly, it's only a convenience that the President is something other than white. It's a great way for the Right to pump some fear into the White, and get them to agree with anything to block an agenda that's more populist than corporatist.
So, in the end, your headline should simply be REPUBLICANS SAY FUCK YOU TO AMERICA. Period. And the subhead should read, AMERICA IS ONE YEAR AWAY FROM SAYING FUCK YOU TO REPUBLICANS.
- 10 months ago
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TheAmbivalante
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oldbanjo
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TheAmbivalante:
outstanding
- 10 months ago
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oldbanjo
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percipi224
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TheAmbivalante:
you said it in spades!!! Geitner has already hinted that the 14th amendment will be invoked and this will be done under an order of national emergency. And while the not so right scream about socialism (spit, spit) Old people and the disabled will sit safely in their homes knowing that Obama stopped this trumped up shock doctrine deficit bull crap. I suggest the hedge funds are behind this as they are the ones who will benenifit the most from a run on the bond market. Funny thing is, after that the free market idealogues will be even fatter and happier as they will still not be taxed either way. And we will be at zero again, dealing with theri usury. i also suggest that the fat cat bankers are pissed because Obama said; i am the president now and i say you will pay the tarp back, just like GM did and you will be regulated. all hell breaks lose.
- 10 months ago
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percipi224
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letsliveinpeace
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TheAmbivalante:
And in 2012 we will be the ones-- saying--- NO!!!!!!!!
- 10 months ago
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letsliveinpeace
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SFirman
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TheAmbivalante:
Great article!
- 10 months ago
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SFirman
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nanac
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TheAmbivalante:
Magnificent!
- 10 months ago
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nanac
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Timmit
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I have thought his from the beginning, I thought it was very apparent that GWB fucked this country up so bad that a Blackman was elected president. I believe the racism is rampant on both sides of Congress. These are the white elitist that have access to the best healthcare system in the world without cost to themselves, they don’t have money issues so how can they talk about my well being. Those that believe in a trickledown economics are living in the past when the CEO of the company started working in the mail room and therefore ended up loving the company that they were heading and they had integrity. These CEO bastards (not all) today are just legally stealing the wealth of the companies. Mission Accomplished. I thought intelligence (Obama) would top the ape like display of our former President, this is showing that beating your chest and incoherent speeches can get you farther than intelligence.
- 10 months ago
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Timmit
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Incredulous
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Power...the Washington aphrodisiac.
Yes, they will sacrifice the Nation to retain their own power:
http://www.livescience.com/10635-queen-ant-sacrifice-colony-retain-throne.html
- 10 months ago
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Incredulous
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letsliveinpeace
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Incredulous:
Excellent!
- 10 months ago
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letsliveinpeace
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nanac
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It is absurd to think that racism isn't a contributing factor to President Obama's inability to negociate with the Republicans..It is a well documented fact that numerous Republicans are racist, and they have made it known that they hate Obama..
When people see Obama, they don't see a person of mixed race, they see a Black man. He is disrespected more than any president in modern history, and his life is threatened more than other presidents..
It is extremely difficult for a racist to identify racism, and others are in denial about the problem..
Republicans are hating on America, and Obama simultaneously..They are greed/power driven, and could care less about the economy, jobs, education, or health-care.Their primary goals are to make President Obama a one term president by destroying the economy, and protect tax-breaks/loop-holes for millionaires/billionaires... - 10 months ago
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nanac
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jim_b
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imrnlil:
And the republicans still own this economy.
- 10 months ago
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jim_b
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ninetyninecents
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jim_b:
well they are the best when it comes to satisfy those rich fuckers. It is just like those legal prostitutes in Amsterdam where they get retired years after working so hard. What are you gonna do?
- 10 months ago
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ninetyninecents
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Buddha2112
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jim_b:
No, the fed does. Republicans and Democrats are both to blame for this fiasco.
- 10 months ago
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Buddha2112
