Teachers Can Mock Creationism - Court

I don't know where to begin, but I think this is worth mocking.

eek! Nightmare!

I might have argued you are being intolerant,
on the otherhand, heat index was 110 degree for the 70th day.
So I find it very hard to find compassion in my heart for those fake skeptics/ scientist who deny global warming but embrace creationism.

Is that an actual quote? Or just an amusing, fake one?

I just made it up. :)

Good to know. +^'d (both)

say ain't that ronny raygun??

I love the sticker! I will have to find that one, EdJoy! LOL!

It does kind of look like him.

I think I found it at Hot Topic years ago. The picture is of a tin sign version that can be purchased at nolaridge.com

Thanks, EdJoy. I will check out the site.

Good one!

LOL!!!

That`s the "Incredible,Invisible,Great Flying Spaghetti Monster" to you and don`t you forget it. Also never take it`s name in vain or you`ll get no meatballs or garlic bread sticks! All praise the Heebus!

Because they have lobbyists that pay the politicians a great deal of money to keep it.

True - the only people that are not represented by lobbyist are the American working class!!!

Huey Damn Right.

Well, I kinda mock Michele Bachman's beliefs . . . especially her saying that God is punishing us for our sins with bad weather, give me a break.

hold up, who is a non-believer, I am sorry to ask because I come from far away planet, and from studying your puny scientific achievements, the ones holding you back were the non-believers of science, I got that correct, right.

you said what you meant in the post I responded to, but I am glad to see in your own personal conduct, you believe in bullying, mocking

But that is the problem with you non-believers of science, you are a cornered animal, afraid of your extinction, because you know the only thing you can hold on to is something you can't even prove to yourself.

And you have felt this for sure, because you rage like a doubter, bullying to cover up, bullying for mercy.

But here is the trick, boy, if you want to be a man, then don't react like a kid. Think about what is being said, before you act on your ego, or as you would like to believe is your feelings

Lol you have to have facts before you have a legitimate debate, and that is something creationists lack. If people want to laugh and make jokes about people believing in fairy tales long after they realize santa is fake, that is fine by me. That is just the price you have to be willing to pay if you live with your head in the dirt. And you can't go around shouting that our ideas are stupid because they are usually supported by evidence and you'd only be making yourself look like a fool.

but here is a bit of follow up, in case you missed my point...
you see, being a christian or a scientist, doesn't preclude the other;

but when you say "non-believers voting up" that’s exactly what it means
the very word is an us versus them mentality, christian or nobody
it is the perfect verbal example of intolerance
And I found it quite amusing that you would rage about hypocrisy, when you are not even mindful of your own bigoted language.

So, I merely suggested in a, mocking but playful way, if you stepped outside yourself, you would see it too, and have a good laugh at it.

((but allow me to mirror your passive aggressive attitude as you did in your second post:
But no I am the dumbass, I am the moron. And you just want courtesy.))

I have to agree with your point on how the Current community treats religion, overall, but I think the main reason YOU'RE being voted down is that you fit your screen name a bit too well. There's a difference between sharing your opinion and being an asshole.

"non-believers of science"

rofl See Buckeye_Bill? I TOLD YOU SO!!

Sorry jackshin, for using you as an example to prove a point. Please disregard. Unless (of course) you know what's going on and have an opinion on it.

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

I could be an asshole, but to others I could be a blatant truth teller. Its all subjective at this point.

Just to be clear "non-believers" is christian for "non-believers of christ or god, and of course christians are the believers. But I never stated there existed "believers of science"
and thus there is no worshipers of science in the earth the Alien visited.

I hope I proved Buck right with that clarification? Did I?????

I hear that. +^'d

Well, to be fair, it's likely to be less dangerous to day then it was 100 years ago. So much stuff is idiot proof, it's only making us produce more idiots because we're not letting nature do it's job.

No, Buck only had opinion, and you can't prove opinion.
And you can't pretend you haven't been preaching about the wonders of science like it was the new religion all over this thread, all day long, because you're capable of some mental acrobatics to justify one comment out of how many? I'm not sure. I stopped paying attention to your comments a while ago, to be frank.
They're nothing I haven't seen before.

Yes some folks just should not make it to adulthood.

well that is your opinion

well don't out yourself

Well, I wasn't going to say that... (outloud)

then don't

I see you have a new fan. think maybe it has a crush on you?? Oh hey thats what i like about being me I say some of the damnedest things sometimes. Kind of gets me in trouble sometimes

all I see is you responding to me

Yeah: yours.
And I didn't, in case you haven't noticed.

Yeah... I don't want him since he seems to latch on to anything within range... I wonder if a circus would take him?
No... Those guys tend to have talent at least..
Can you do tricks Jack? Have any deformaties? I mean, aside from holding the record for "world's oldest adolescent"?

well I am acrobatic...but sadly I have no other talents, oh and I am a smart-ass, but not in a good way

uh what was that...

Right... Because scientists are all, undoubtedly, the most moral creatures on the planet (not like those dirty priests), above all forms of curruption, including (but not limited to): lust, greed, and being completely full of shit.
THEY ARE THE NEW GODS!!!
BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW MASTERS HEATHENS!!!!!!

I'm sorry did i even mention Scientists? or morals? or corruption? I'm sorry that its too hard for you to figure out that belief=ignorance, but please don't try to re-construct my arguments to suit your counter points, it's a really tiresome fallacy that i don't have the patience to teach you a lesson about. Simply put, religion demands compliance with the rules that it stipulate while science embraces reform. Science=objectivity, religion=subjectivity, as is clearly shown by the contents of your post.

I'm hardly religious, I just respect the power of belief and think people should be more careful about where they place it.
I questioned your belief that scientists do not have bias.
Are you saying you don't believe in anything?

I'm hardly being a hater, and peer review can't keep up with all the junk science that has flooded the field, and there is nothing that can change a person's opinion when they've already made a decision except the people themselves. Oh, you can certainly advocate a change, but you can't create it. That's the power of faith (whether you admit you have any or not)
I'm glad you mentiond the scientific method, it's one thing I actually have faith in, but it shouldn't be confused with scientists who are human, and therefore vulnerable to corruption, whereas a method is not vulnerable to anything but abuses made by humans. Science is created by humans, for humans, and it stands to reason that they should be given the same amount of respect you'd give any person who expects you to believe them.

And I'm flagging you for making personal attacks.

"I questioned your belief that scientists do not have bias"

it must be satisfying to you to argue a point that no one has a disagreement with

"I'm glad you mentioned the scientific method, it's one thing I actually have faith in, "

The scientific method — the method wherein inquiry regards itself as fallible and purposely tests itself and criticizes, corrects, and improves itself.

I think that’s what cwebb said, and many others, so do you concede the only point you had was its fine to be ignorant if you, really, really believe it.

lol asking you to quit being a hater is a personal attack? And yes there is a lot of junk science, and for the most part people know it's junk science. Again scientists can be biased, but in the end the scientific method weeds out the junk. You can stop hating now.

A quote from the first post I responded to
"Belief is biased, science is not. "
Scientific method is a system used-by the aforementioned fallable humans-to sort through beliefs to decide which stay and which go and since it is up to the scientist to decide if he/she will use ethical techniques in determining the outcome, it's fair to assume (and it has been proven) that the "science" they produce is not without bias.

*sigh* My point was never that it's ok to be ignorant. That's xctly what I've been arguing against. Your self-induced blindness to the flaws inherent to the system-namely humans and their foolish beliefs.

There is no need for personal attacks, other than that, I'm glad we can agree, and I'm flagging you again, for the same reason I stated before.

well I know what your point is, you just don't have answers, so I guess no one else can

yeah but thats the first post...an really whats happen is you have now tried to argue that that is what everbody else means, when frankly, it has already been assumed science is not without flaws, a long time ago....

ironicly you are the one that holds the inner prejudice

Where the hell do you get that? Did you miss the part where I said I was glad we could agree? Now you're just arguing for no reason, which is, from my understand, firestarting/harrassment. I'm flagging your comments from this point on.

"Your self-induced blindness to the flaws inherent to the system-namely humans and their foolish beliefs."

was that before are after you posted that to me

Anyways back to the original post you made responding to "cwebbpt4:
I'm hardly religious, I just respect the power of belief and think people should be more careful about where they place it.
I questioned your belief that scientists do not have bias.
Are you saying you don't believe in anything?"

Where did he ever say scientists in his post? even after he tries to correct you with a reply, you still keep talking about scientists. Are you going to flag me for this one as well? This is why i called you a hater, because you just ignore what people are writing (or don't comprehend) to spout nonsense.

Its hilarious how you have to employ suppositions and play with semantics in order to prove that it's simply POSSIBLE for SCIENTISTS (not the scientific method) to be biased, where as the only thing I have to do to prove the belief is biased is define it. You don't actually buy into what your saying do you? I feel like your just testing your argument chops and trying to prove a point that is clearly ridiculous.

I certainly believe that because of what everyone knows to be true (scientists have bias), saying people should blindly put their faith into science is reckless. If these comments had included a disclaimer like: Use your brain to sort through the massive amount of junk! I wouldn't be having this conversation.
Instead, the people I have been debating at (I'd say "with" if their comments had any substance outside of petty insults and comments full of nothing but pure annoyances) people who have been pretending that science can do no wrong and when they finally admit that scientists can do wrong, they resort to yet more name calling and posting comments that have no more substance than schoolyard arguements.
I'm flagging them because they violate the community guidlines. Not because I don't have any other choice, I just choose not to put up with their bullshit.

absolutely I dont believe in anything because belief in itself is ignorance. Belief implies that you will think something is true, regardless of the evidence for or against it. That also happens to be the exact definition for ignorance. So no, I dont not intentionally buy into and perpetuate my own ignorance. Or if you want to be dramatic you can proclaim I don't "believe in anything"

lol You're not dramatic when you say " I dont believe in anything because belief in itself is ignorance."
But I'm being dramatic for asking if you're saying that you don't believe in anything?
ROFLMAO
okokok I'm *bursts into laughter* I'm getting myself *snigger* under control...
Whew.
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OK, so what do you say to people who say "I believe in God because I've read the Bible and the Bible is the word of God"?

I fail to see how this post addresses any of my points. I'm sorry you ended up in a spat chock full of as hominem and name-calling, but I have to say that your aggressive and sarcastic style of making points probably lends itself to that. Clearly you shouldn't blindly believe ANYTHING without properly examining the evidence. It's hilarious that you feel so strongly about that because if there is anything the scientific method demands, it is skepticism. I think your playing for the wrong team

I'm not playing any team and you'll see how it's relevant to the topic of belief if you'd just humor me, but I'll cut you a break and answer it for you: it's a circular arguement. Correct?

As for your critique of my personality, I have already posted an adequate response on another article about 3 months ago, so cut and paste:

So your whole justification for insulting me in a most grievous fashion is because I'm snide and surly when it would be more productive to be charming?
Why should I waste my time trying to charm assholes I already tried to charm?
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BTW, I'm not sure if you realized this or not, but being a bitch here is not going to cost me anything down the road either. This is the fucking internet. I get enough creepy messages from strangers as it is, I can't imagine what I would get if I were nice and I prefer to save my diplomacy for for things that count and blogs do not count.

see, this kind of rhetoric is exactly why you end up in so many name-calling fights. No, my proclamation was not dramatic, it was concise, and logically valid. Your attempts at showing amusement at my comments are what's dramatic and it shows just how mature you are.

To your supposition I would say "that is a circular argument, and therefor invalid, although it is certainly your right to 'believe' anything you want."

Good, now that we've covered that fact we know what a circular arguement is, and the fact that we know I'm a bitch, do you think you can contain your dislike for me long enough to get back on topic?

Pretend for a moment that you don't know anything about science or religion and just look around the room you're sitting in. How do you know that it exists?

According to Hume's theory on the Problem of induction I can never know anything to be true 100%, even that I exist. We can only trust the validity of claims on the basis of weather or not they are supported by current evidence, but we can never know for sure And don't get into some psuedo-Decart argument about "i think therefor I am" because that too is a circular argument.

I'm starting to believe you have no purpose in responding to me outside of trying to make yourself look smart at my expense. Either way, I'll know what your purpose is by your next response. If you're just trying to insult me in as many ways possible without actually using the word "bitch" I think I'll just leave you here to congratulate yourself.
But just to let you know, if all those insults and personal attacks were "justified" because I'm sarcastic and aggressive, then by your own logic I'd be perfectly justified in calling you names as well.
Anyway, please stop trying to read my mind and just answer the damn question.

please quote a place where I called you a name. the only person here who is calling you a bitch is yourself

So you DON'T intend to actually have a meaningful conversation.
Thanks for letting me know.
*kisskiss*
Bye.

good riddance

Bukowski for GOD ! (Uhm,.....do they have elections,.....are there term limits ? )

Very +^d I think he would make a most RIGHTEOUS asshole control freak god -sort of heavens own drunken Hercules. But would we notice the difference down here, other than being peed on a lot ?

Valid questions. Elect me as your One True God, and I'll tell you the answers (fair warning-they'll be written in a language that doesn't really exist).
*evil laughter*

WORD ! +^d

So are you a good Wiccan or a Bad Wiccan??

-Why does that sound like a line from the Wizard of Oz? LOL