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Could Sarah Palin lead the way for OWS to forge a Congressional Reform Act?

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MauriceLacunza
First read my article linked above on the OWS movement calling for the OWS movement to lead from anger to action and begin a process for a Congressional Reform Act. Then, read this article linked below about Sarah Palin calling for the reform of Congress. Hmmph. Interesting to say the least.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/18/palin_embraces_ows/?source=newsletter
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59 comments // Could Sarah Palin lead the way for OWS to forge a Congressional Reform Act?

  • BCDel89
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      BCDel89  
    • The answer to that question is no. I mean I know we keep electing stupid people into office but we gotta draw the line somewhere.

    • 6 months ago
  • OlBlue
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      OlBlue  
    • Sarah can't help herself, which makes it so easy to dismiss her usual lunacy, but there may be a way to tenuously connect through her to a large part of the population that she speaks to to bring those people to realize that they actually sympathize with many of the Occupy goals, and that those goals will not destroy their world. Her base, including the teapartiers (I will suspend my use of the pejorative teabagger term for now), do indeed have political influence. Progressives and teapartiers will never see eye to eye on many issues but they are deep down our brothers and sisters, suffering under the current system. It is possible that we can actually work with them.

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • OlBlue:

      I think your logic makes sense. For me, the fact that Sarah doesn't really have an "agenda" anymore, makes her less suspicous. But even so, your point is valid. she can reach some audience that otherwise would not available to the movement.

    • 6 months ago
  • OlBlue
  • Leen61
  • sharin
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      sharin  
    • very obviously sarah did not write this piece (not enough "and, there too"s) However, that she would put her name to this populist piece is scary - what is she up to?

    • 6 months ago
  • arnie1961
  • arnie1961
  • oldbanjo
  • PeteLeS33
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
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    • http://www.changingtheplanet.com/2011/11/99-could-win-any-election-they-wanted.h...
      The problem with the 1% is that Congress is responsible for allowing the passage of laws that favor the 1%. You can't blame them entirely for taking advantage of favorable laws. If we can put laws in place to force Congressional reform, then the 1% can't buy a Congressman anymore. A Congressional Reform Act would have the affect of throwing a boulder into a pond. The core problem is that laws and lawmakers can be be bought and paid for. A referendum would force new boundaries that address the imbalance of government.

      This month, in Washington State, the people passed a referendum that removed the state from the sale and distribution of alcohol. In one swoop, the government is out of the alcohol business. Why not a referendum for Congressional Reform Act? It is the power of law- the mandate of the people

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      Do you have any idea how to go about bringing a referendum to the voters? Do you know the process the people of Washington St. went through to have their say directly? This is something I could definitely get behind, but I have no clue as to how best support such a measure.

      After having a look at the piece on your blog one question sprung to mind instantly. It is said that the content has been taken from an email of Warren Buffet's and I wonder why if he is the author of, or supportive of this Reform Act, why is he not actively pushing it? He certainly has the resources to make it happen I would think.

    • 6 months ago
  • BKsaysAction
  • ecoalex
  • Joeydee44
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      Joeydee44  
    • She knows a good populist movement when she sees it. The day she sets up a booth at OWS to sell her book is the day to pack up the tents.

    • 6 months ago
  • artemis6
  • RobertJordan
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • RobertJordan:

      I see your point Robert. But what happens if Sarah Palin serves Sarah Palin instead of the movement? All of her political jockeying has been self serving. I think I would be very suspicious of her motives because of her past. YET. Her value is that the media loves to follow her. That is some good exposure. The question is, how do we keep her on task serving others instead of serving her self?

      On the other hand, she has nothing more to gain in politics. Maybe her interest in equality is real and we should embrace it.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      I am just seeing this as an opportunity to bridge the gap across the partisan divide among the people. When it comes right down to it the supporters of the GOP and the supporters of the Democrats all want essentially the same things in life, freedom, prosperity and a brighter future for their children. The animosity and hatred between the differing ideologies has been fanned by the media on both sides to the point where people no longer discuss issues, they tend to shout each other down, to insult the intellect and integrity of the other rather than working together to find a common ground upon which progress can be achieved. I would hope that this piece by Sarah can provide a bit of common ground for all the people to stand together on. Neither contingent has all the answers, the correct solutions and it is my opinion that until we can get back to true compromise and reasonable discussion that we are doomed to keep fighting this endless partisan battle that only enables those in power to continue to serve a single agenda, the agenda of entitlement for the wealthy and the oppression of the masses.

      It is impossible to know what her true intent is, nor do we have any influence to keep her on the task of serving to greater good. I would just hate to see an opportunity lost to ideological based hatred, self righteousness and ignorance. Whatever Sarah is up to, let us make the best possible use of her while she does command the media spotlight. And I guess it is possible that in abandoning political ambition that Sarah has discovered a new purpose in her life, but I would not bet on it and it is certainly wise to remain skeptical of her motives

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • RobertJordan:

      Earlier I spoke with a knowledgable friend who said that Sarah was a progressive Republican when she was in Alaska government. He said that she did some good things for Alaska. He felt that she got herself turned around when the national spotlight hit her. In his opinion, she probably had/has some ideas that are similar to those of the 99%. So your point is well taken Robert.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      Thanks for that bit of background Maurice. I cannot say that I am that familiar with the internal affairs of Alaska, but I do recall that when her nomination to be on the ticket was first announced that there was some pretty good press about her governance. And positive press from all the media, not just from Pox News. I don't think it is much of a stretch to imagine that the nomination went to her head, and then found herself floundering when realizing that she was in over her head. All in all, I find this to be a fascinating turn of events and will be interested to see how it plays out

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • RobertJordan:

      I too find it fascinating. That is why I posted the story in the first place! I will say though that most people are highly suspect of her intentions. In the final analysis, time will be the teller of all things.

    • 6 months ago
  • bailey78
  • OlBlue
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      OlBlue  
    • She doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing what the movement is about. She said just enough to get noticed and I believe that she is simply trying to get her big ol clown foot in the door to siphon off some publicity ( = sarahpac $).

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • OlBlue:

      I have been giving this some more thought... I think she may be trying to find the next gravy train to which she can hitch her wagon. I am highly suspect of her actions, though I agree completely with what she said. Having said that, I tend to think she is more self-serving than serving selfless.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      Yes, that is likely the case, but I am finding the partisanship exhibited on this story rather disheartening. Its as though people are willing to ignore common sense because they do not like the source of it. Of course she is self serving, but I think everyone is missing the boat on this. Sarah's self serving actions should be taken as a means to quell the bitter partisan squabbling that only enables Washington to ignore the needs of all of us.

    • 6 months ago
  • OlBlue
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      OlBlue  
    • RobertJordan:

      True true. My first reaction was to slam her, the easy target and all that. But you are right, we are all in this together and we will have to work together to fix the country.

    • 6 months ago
  • OlBlue
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • OlBlue:

      Ya know, olblue, that was my first thought: maybe we can use Palin somehow. But the overwhelming response has been, "What is she up to?" "I don't trust her." I am succumbing to the notion that she is trying to hitch her wagon on the next best media gravy train. I don't want to believe that, but, what other options does sh have? She is OUT of the political arena and the only thing available is left wing christians, or, this massive ground swell called OWS. Media-wise, this is a good move on her part. I think we need to be suspicious of her.

    • 6 months ago
  • coolplanet
  • bailey78
  • RobertJordan
  • bailey78
  • RobertJordan
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • I would imagine the fear of O.W.S. on the right has them scrambling for options. Co-opting it, and then killing it would be one of the first things they came up with.

    • 6 months ago
  • nanac
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      nanac  
    • Talk is cheap! I don't trust Sarah Palin. She will do or say anything to get attention or for money/power.This woman is not a nice person. A woman who uses her children for political props can't be trusted.

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • The problem with the 1% is that Congress is responsible for allowing the passage of laws that favor the 1%. You can't blame them entirely for taking advantage of favorable laws. If we can put laws in place to force Congressional reform, then the 1% can't buy a Congressman anymore. A Congressional Reform Act would have the affect of throwing a boulder into a pond. The core problem is that laws and lawmakers can be be bought and paid for. A referendum would force new boundaries that address the imbalance of government.

      This month in Washington state the people passed a referendum that took removed the state from the sale and distribution of alcohol. In one swoop, the government is out of the alcohol business. Why not a referendum for Congressional Reform Act? It is the power of law- the mandate of the people.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      There is something I think you have overlooked here, and that is the current batch of representatives don't need to be bought buy the 1%, they are part of the 1% themselves. As long as people continue to send only wealthy elites to Washington I do not think they should expect legislation that does not favor the wealthy.

      If there is to be a referendum, I would suggest it be one to impose complete public funding of all campaigns, with strict rules and harsh penalties (jail time, fines mean nothing to these elites) for anyone who violates the rules. That is a way in which we can return power to the 99%, fpor then the possibility of serving in government is open to anyone with good ideas rather than only to those who can afford to campaign

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • RobertJordan:

      You are correct. Thus sending a new batch of players to DC would be counter-productive. Therefore a Congressional Reform Act with the idea added about public campaign financing that you just suggested would be the most likely way to effect radical change. Footnote: it shouldn't have to be radical- except that Congress is completely out of control. Thank you Robert. These are the kinds of conversations that need to be shaping the action for a national referendum.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
  • infiniteblackbox
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      infiniteblackbox  
    • All of the Occupy Movements need to present a clear agenda at this point.
      As an entity they REALLY need to form a more cohesive organization and deliver a more concise message. It is now starting to devolve into mayhem and violence. People will turn off to that.
      The rioting in Oakland, although performed by a small and renegade faction, will over shadow any positive message by the group.
      Violence begets nothing but negative publicity.
      And we all know the media will report and blow out of proportion the sensational.

      No matter how profoundly the "Occupy" movement speaks to political/social unrest in this country, it is "off the radar." A mockery has been made of the movement's message of unjust financial inequality that dominates us. Political pundits assail them for their lack of one clear message.

      I think the obvious agenda and the most tenable would be to VOTE OUT EVERY INCUMBENT !! Wall Street is made entirely possible by the machine that is Capitol Hill.

      We have primed the hammer to strike but our lackadaisical and stagnate progress will defeat us before we even swing.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • infiniteblackbox:

      I agree completely. Even if there are the odd decent representative in Congress, get rid of ALL of them and send a clear and unmistakable message to those who are elected. Either represent OUR interests, or start looking for a new job because we will vote your sorry ass out of the one you have now

    • 6 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • Cruzankenny
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      Cruzankenny  
    • infiniteblackbox:

      If someone doesn't recognize the message, they're not listening. If someone feels a 'mockery' has been made of the movement, then they should stop listening to 'political pundits'.
      The movement is stronger than ever, but I believe it is time to metamorphose into something less about occupying space and more about changing the landscape.

    • 6 months ago
  • infiniteblackbox
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      infiniteblackbox  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      And you found this to be clear and cohesive?
      I read 21 bullet points about acts perpetrated against the American public.
      Things i already know.
      Is it really that critical of me to want to see demands made of Corporations and Government?
      Like actually doing something about the national debt.
      Or congress introduce a bill which prohibits credit card companies and banks from raping the middle class.
      Or introducing Lobbyist Reform.
      ANYTHING!
      People are so excited that they only see what they want to.
      I am telling you friend.
      This is quickly spinning into mayhem and nothingness.
      Save this post for 6 months from now and read it again.

    • 6 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • infiniteblackbox:

      did y ou read my whole post? "then feel free to browse the various work groups that are writing the proposals that go before the GAs. people just arent doing their homework, preferring to have their info spoon fed as the old paradigm is very happy to do for you"

    • 6 months ago
  • PressCore
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      PressCore  
    • I doubt it. Several prominent G people in and out of office presently
      have visited the OWS movement protesters in NYC. Kucinick, Paul,
      Ventura, et al back them. They're more likely to back a Congressional
      Reform Act, and be accepted by the OWS people. Palin has pandered
      to the T.E.A. party. Though some of the demands of each have a
      commonality of interests, I feel their purposes are radicly different.
      The T.E.A. party is status quo, wears guns, kisses the pigs' asses.
      That might be considered OK in parts of some Western States, but
      in the overpopulated N.E. it won't fly. The pigs pander to the T.E.A.
      party too. The pigs hate the OWS movement, which is yet another
      reason why I consider myself in good company with the OWS people.

      Palin is an opportunist seeking to be part of the 1%. Per se, it's not
      a bad thing to be part of the 1%...It simply moves one further from
      the commonality of purpose the 99% recognize. There are plenty
      of charitable people in the ranks of the 1%. And a lot of them actualy
      do earn their money honestly. I'm not envious of their wealth. I don't
      covet their life of luxury. If they got to the top of their career ladders
      honestly, then their stars must have been alligned that way. What IS
      bad, imho,is to be part of the .001%.unless one is extremely charitable.
      There's no way in hell any of those people could ever possibly do
      honest work to earn their money no matter how much or how little in
      taxes they pay. By now I think we all sense it's the Congressional
      top 1% who pander to the top .001% that's realy corrupt, and needs
      reformation badly. I sense, as a follower of that crud Ronald Reagan,
      if Palin could, she'd pander to the top .001% as that bastard did. It's
      also no secret she talks the talk. It's a lot more telling to prove she can
      walk the walk. If she has, I've never seen it.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
  • MauriceLacunza
  • MauriceLacunza
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      That is true, but I do have to seriously question what kind of reform we can actually expect to come from those already in office, who have gotten used to making platitudes to the public which offer no real effect. Look at the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform, it sounded good but in reality did absolutely nothing.

      I believe the only way of ever seeing serious reform is through electing new people to Congress with a mandate to impose such reforms. And to discard them immediately if they do not fulfill that mandate. We should expect nothing from the current crop of representatives, they have shown already by their actions that the interests they serve are not ours

    • 6 months ago
  • PressCore
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      PressCore  
    • RobertJordan:

      I haven't yet read the article, but I'm not so prejudiced I could not
      believe that to be true. I simply meant with all the baggage Palin
      is carrying, she might not be the one to run with it. But then who
      knows ? You must understand that as a community member I
      belong to a group headed up by JanforGore. During the 2008
      election Microsoft sponsored an hour featuring Palin advocating
      Why don't we drill for oil in our own back yard ? She meant her
      back yard. Palin is in the Big Oil camp. They have to be one of
      THE most corrupting parts of the .001%. I'm just saying she can't
      wear 2 hats at the same time.

    • 6 months ago
  • PressCore
  • MauriceLacunza
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      MauriceLacunza  
    • RobertJordan:

      If it were possible to vote out ALL incumbents, then that could work. However, without REFORMS to the lobby system, the amazing perks and other benefits, newbies will succumb to the bribes and benefits. Thus I think the people need a true reform referendum.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • PressCore:

      In this I completely agree with you. Her baggage is immense and there is no way that she herself could lead a movement that would gather widespread support. I am just hoping that she may lead some of the conservative minded people who listen to her to get behind a non-partisan movement, and despite all of her baggage, all of her campaign idiocy there is something of real value in this editorial from her that should, in my opinion, become the backbone of such a movement. I did not intend for anything I've said on this page to be an endorsement of Palin herself

    • 6 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • PressCore:

      I agree with you. She writes this now ( that is, if she even wrote this herself) yet didn't seem to mind being in that same system not that long ago when it suited her ambitions.

    • 6 months ago
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • I was a little stunned reading this coming out of Sarah, but people should not immediately discount the piece because of its authorship. There are some very good, very simple and very 'do-able' things suggested by Palin.

      From Palin's editorial article

      " The corruption isn’t confined to one political party or just a few bad apples. It’s an endemic problem encompassing leadership on both sides of the aisle. It’s an entire system of public servants feathering their own nests…

      What are the solutions? We need reform that provides real transparency. Congress should be subject to the Freedom of Information Act like everyone else. We need more detailed financial disclosure reports, and members should submit reports much more often than once a year. All stock transactions above $5,000 should be disclosed within five days.

      We need equality under the law. From now on, laws that apply to the private sector must apply to Congress, including whistleblower, conflict-of-interest and insider-trading laws. Trading on nonpublic government information should be illegal both for those who pass on the information and those who trade on it…

      No more sweetheart land deals with campaign contributors. No gifts of IPO shares. No trading of stocks related to committee assignments. No earmarks where the congressman receives a direct benefit. No accepting campaign contributions while Congress is in session. No lobbyists as family members, and no transitioning into a lobbying career after leaving office. No more revolving door, ever.

      This call for real reform must transcend political parties. The grass-roots movements of the right and the left should embrace this…"

    • 6 months ago
  • MauriceLacunza
  • RobertJordan
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      RobertJordan [removed]  
    • MauriceLacunza:

      I agree, she is right on target. I hope that some of the conservative minded voters are still listening to Sarah, if she is going to begin talking real common sense like this she may actually be able to be a positive influence. I'm glad you posted this piece and I hope that it gets a little attention here

    • 6 months ago
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