Comedy | December 15, 2011 | 233 comments

News Bulletin: Ron Paul is a Huge Racist

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Vic_Romano
With Ron Paul ascending in Iowa, winning the hearts of independents, and even the endorsement of Andrew Sullivan, it’s worth pointing something out: Ron Paul is not a kindly old libertarian who just wants everybody to be free. He’s a really creepy bigot.

Around four years ago, James Kirchick reported a lengthy story delving into Paul’s worldview. As Kirchick writes, Paul comes out of an intellectual tradition called “paleolibertarianism,” which is a version of libertarianism heavily tinged with far-right cultural views. The gist is that Paul is tied in deep and extensive ways to neo-Confederates, and somewhat less tightly to the right-wing militia movement. His newsletter, which he wrote and edited for years, was a constant organ of vile racism and homophobia. This is not just picking out a phrase here and there. Fear and hatred of blacks and gays, along with a somewhat less pronounced paranoia about Jewish dual loyalty, are fundamental elements of his thinking. The most comparable figure to Paul is Pat Buchanan, the main differences being that Paul emphasizes economic issues more, and has more dogmatically pro-market views.

How, then, has Paul become a figure of admiration among social liberals?

One reason is that nobody is attacking him. Paul is (correctly) considered to have no chance to actually win the GOP nomination, so debate moderators have not bothered to research his past, instead tossing off generalized questions that allow him to portray himself on his preferred terms. The Republican Establishment is focusing all its fire on Newt Gingrich, and indeed, Paul’s rise in Iowa would greatly aid Mitt Romney’s campaign by preventing an acceptable alternative from emerging from the state with momentum.

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233 comments // News Bulletin: Ron Paul is a Huge Racist

  • jeffreyak
  • unimatrix0
  • PeteLeS33
  • Crauly_Fingers
  • Vic_Romano
  • Crauly_Fingers
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      Crauly_Fingers  
    • Vic_Romano:

      Thanks for the link...further proof this is complete BS. Political. None of this reflects his views, writing style or vocabulary. Clearly written by someone else. How about backing your claims from the mountain of 30+ years of RP video archive. Can you do that Vic? I bet you can't!!!

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
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      Vic_Romano  
    • Crauly_Fingers:

      His name is on them. Blaming this on someone else won't make them go away. All the videos of him in the world aren't going to make these letters disappear. Your guy owes the American public an honest explanation.

    • 5 months ago
  • Crauly_Fingers
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      Crauly_Fingers  
    • Vic_Romano:

      Vic, I'm just saying I've read his stuff and I feel confident enough to say you have not. Had you, it would be clear this is not his language. It's a scan of a photocopy of a piece of paper with his name on it. If you could post something recorded which shows he's racist from the massive trove of material out there I would appreciate it. I need to know, if true this will seriously change my views of him. But I don't think you will because you can't. If so I'll apologize to you for being wrong and reconsider my support.

    • 5 months ago
  • jeffreyak
  • jeffreyak
  • BCDel89
  • unimatrix0
  • Vic_Romano
  • jeffreyak
  • unimatrix0
  • jeffreyak
  • Vic_Romano
  • jeffreyak
  • Vic_Romano
  • jeffreyak
  • Vic_Romano
  • jeffreyak
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    • Vic_Romano:

      The fact that these are in typed, and you've never heard Ron Paul speak this way, Is proof that this is bad propaganda. If you think racism is going to play a part in this presidential election then you are wrong. Good luck finding real dirt on Ron Paul. I challenge you to do so.

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
  • AmericanStandard
  • Vic_Romano
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    • AmericanStandard:

      (And here's your own people calling you guys out--there's all kinds of links to original copies of his newsletters)

      Saying "NU-UH", doesn’t make the facts above go away.

      Shouting, “LIAR!” – doesn’t make the facts above go away.

      Giving a link to a Ron Paul denial doesn’t make the facts go away.

      Shouting neocon, shill, warmonger, hit piece, or any other word in your vocabulary, doesn’t make the above facts go away.

      Saying this is old news, doesn’t make the above truth go away. If a candidate for president built wealth for two decades off of being racist, voters deserve to know.

      Saying this was debunked years ago, doesn’t make the truth above go away. The above facts debunk any supposed debunking from Ron Paul.

      Sitting there and spouting off any other rhetoric while you ignore the evidence, does not make the evidence go away.

      Calling this a joke or an act of desperation does not make the above facts go away.

      Spewing a quote about how racism is about collectivism doesn’t make the above facts untrue.

      Calling the evidence bogus doesn’t make the newsletters go away. Plus if you say these are all bogus, then you’re calling Ron Paul’s denial bogus too! How could he blame a ghost writer for writing something that never happened?

      Saying the first person language and the presence of Ron Paul’s name doesn’t prove a thing, shows you’re clearly biased. Ron Paul defended his newsletters in 1996. Showing that he was involved and did know about them. Combine that with his actual name and first person language in them, pretty much shows he did write them. Making the presence of his name and first person references inconsequential, is laughable at the least.

      Paul supporters may ask, “How is this any different than someone going off and publishing a newsletter in your name?” It is very different. First, Ron Paul started a company called Ron Paul and Associates. The newsletters were printed under the umbrella of that organization. Ron Paul profited from the newsletters. Ron Paul defended the newsletters. Ron Paul’s name, signature and first person references are found in the newsletters he defended. This is much different than some random person somewhere just starting a newsletter in someone’s name without their consent or permission.

      Sitting there asking for evidence, when the evidence is right there and is all over the place, makes you look very insincere in your demands for evidence. Oh and that doesn’t make the above evidence go away either.

      Saying Ron Paul forcefully denied the racist newsletters, followed by a link to a Youtube video, does not negate the facts above. Politicians lie all the time. Look at the evidence, not his words. Yes Ron Paul can lie. He’s not the messiah. He’s not perfect. He’s not pure. The evidence shows he is clearly lying. I don’t care how forcefully he denies it. Nixon forcefully said he wasn’t a crook. Clinton forcefully said he didn’t have sexual relations with that woman. Politicians lie.

      Referencing African Americans supporting Paul, does not negate the facts above. Ron Paul said in his newsletter that 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions. Those backing him would be viewed as the 5%. Well what about the other 95%?

      You can’t negate the above evidence, facts and truth by demanding we find a video or tape of Ron Paul using such language. We see how Ron communicates when he thinks no one else is looking. First of all, it’s laughable for a Paul supporter to act like they take evidence in to consideration. Paul supporters are putting on a guise when they demand video or audio proof. The guise is that they actually care about evidence in the first place. The evidence provided in the newsletters is enough. To ignore this evidence, shows us you would ignore any video or audio evidence if it were presented. Once again, any demand for evidence from a Paul supporter is merely a guise. They don’t care about proof in the first place.

      http://www.conservativesnetwork.com/2011/12/16/who-wrote-the-ron-paul-newsletter...

    • 5 months ago
  • jeffreyak
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  • Vic_Romano
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    • jeffreyak:

      Saying that he did not write these reports does not negate the fact that they bear his name. That he denies writing them or wiggles his way out of any media scrutiny aimed at him does not negate the fact that he made these opinions his own when they were penned under his name. That he won't just come out and discuss these letters openly and honestly proves much more about the man's character than you vouching for him.

    • 5 months ago
  • jeffreyak
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  • Vic_Romano
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    • BCDel89:

      You can attack me all you want. You're free to vote for Ron Paul and spread his message too. However, you aren't going to be able to deny this. Those newsletters are out there for all the public to see with their own eyes, and they're more than capable of making their own decisions about them. Your guy has a lot of real explaining to do.

    • 5 months ago
  • timelord999
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    • timelord999:

      That is Ron Paul. That is the John Birch Society. I didnt hear a racial word come out of Dr Paul mouth. The JBS was against the civil rights movement in 1964, because it believed it had communist support. They openly accept any and all race, religion, and ethnicity's. They have not and do not push a racial agenda. It is almost 2012, and has been nearly 50 years since they opposed the civil rights act. A lot has changed in those years. Grow up, Ron PAUL is not a racist.

    • 5 months ago
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  
    • Whats even funnier is that most people are stuck on the 2party system and wont take the effort to change parties even if they cant agree with their own party. Basically, they refuse to see that theres more than two platforms and that the party system is fraught with divine errors... Should this continue the problem only gets perpetuated. Vic, do you vote for your values or does your party control and define you?

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
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    • Buddha2112:

      I'm a registered Independent, Buddha. Sadly, my state (Missouri) only allows me to choose one party's ticket to choose from in the primary elections. Because most Republicans on the ticket represent values which are wholly irreconcilable with my own, I refuse to vote on that party's ticket. And yes, Buddha. I do vote my values even though my choices are drastically limited by a two-party system that is, at its very core, fundamentally corrupt.

    • 5 months ago
  • jeffreyak
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    • Its funny how this rightfully got tagged Comedy, Propaganda, and Bullshit.

      I hope the Paul nay-sayers realize that the more of this shit they put out, the more attention is given to Paul. Look how many stories have gotten to number one or at least close... There's probably been more Paul on the front page in the last week than Obama. (hooray!)

      And why? Because someone wants to label Paul a racist? Aren't you working against your goal by putting his name on the front page? There's enough of us to support him that these threads goals get destroyed rather quickly.

      This is the one case where libtards could learn from the fuckin neo-cons... If you don't want someone to gain attention, DONT talk about them... At all.

      But by all means, I love these posts. Your mistakes are being used against you....

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
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    • Buddha2112:

      What's really funny is that no matter how much attention Ron Paul receives on Current, the overwhelming majority of users here probably won't support him in the Republican primaries. Why, you ask? Because we're not registered Republicans, and have no desire to affiliate ourselves with that party in any way, shape or form. And while a few states have open primaries where independents can vote for whoever they like, most don't. So it really comes across as comical when I read people like you defend your guy so adamantly. Good luck.

    • 5 months ago
  • jim_b
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    • Vic_Romano:

      Defending Ron Paul now is nowhere near as bad as it was when nearly the entire website was defending Barack Obama and claiming that he was going to change the world and all of that nonsense.

      Now that was comical. Perhaps if I get really bored later I'll go and bump some old posts from 2008 so you guys can see and hear how ridiculous you sound in hindsight.

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
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    • maasanova:

      I wasn't here in 2008, and I supported Dennis Kucinich before the media fucked his campaign. I ultimately ended up voting for Obama in the general election, but had no messianic delusions about him. He was a very moderate candidate if you actually paid attention to his messages--regardless of what the pundits were saying about him.

      In hindsight, though, I thought he would be a greater advocate for civil liberties than he has proven to be. And if he signs this indefinite detention bill into law, that will be the last reason I need to vote for a third party candidate.

    • 5 months ago
  • maasanova
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  • Vic_Romano
  • MotherForTruth
  • jeffreyak
  • Gravity_Man
  • Buddha2112
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    • Gravity_Man:

      So let me get this straight... because he was a doctor, delivered lots of babies, and helped maintain women's health, sometime at no cost... He must be a pedophile?

      Your acute choice of words in describing little girls makes me think you might the one with tendencies... You sure you're not a Neo-con?

    • 5 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • Buddha2112:

      Got his rocks off serving streetwalkers free medical checkups... in addition to getting his hands all over young girls in their developing years.

      I know a little about "doctors" buddy. Slime away.

    • 5 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • Buddha2112:

      When a doctor "gives" healthcare at no cost to women he's making it somewhere else. Like a doctor I had in 2006 when I told him if he would just take a little extra time to help me with my medical issues I would be back to work, so he stood there said to my face MR. RILEY I DON'T HAVE TIME TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS.

      But I started checking his bills he sent me and he was htting Medicare up for $200 a visit PLUS sending me a bill for another $100. He was taking my money & Medicare monies to help other patients, and leaving me disabled.

      You live in a world of Oz buddy. Doctors are sheisters. They love standing on pedestals being worshipped by dunces such as yourself calling them heroes.

      I know from experience what they really are. This doctor left me disabled when my 3 children and wife needed me returned to the workforce. You come on over to Roanoke Virginia and try living in Communist Land a while and they'll give ya the Van Damme treatment as his friend said in the movie => HE'S GONNA KILL YOUR ASS LIONHEART.

      We'll see how long you last then.

    • 5 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Anonmaly
  • 11dim
  • Anonmaly
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      Anonmaly  
    • Love how this, and other articles use racism as a tool....

      (yes mr. (whichever ethnicity) bad things have also happened to your ancestors, and of course I must be programmed by a racist society, and therefore almost everything I do is based on "racism"...... yeah bullshit.....)

      Play on the the guilt of past racial atrocities, to hide you own racist undertones to try to discredit a decent human being.

      Politically brilliant, you shock a person so much, they often forget they weren't racist to begin with and instantly enter apology mode.... It's great too, "the ends justify the means" and even the authors, and supporters of the ideology don't have to be racist, it's not about race, it's about shocking people into feeling sympathetic to a fabricated argument....

      There is only 1 race? green, MONEY....... Racism is secondary to the inequality caused by GREED, feminism, all these other retarded isms are just a way to divide the lower classes and disguise the fact the love of; money & power knows no pigmentation, gender, or other differences....

      Dealt with racists my whole life, from both sides, and just people who honestly hate everyone... You'll find they love one thing (more than their overall feeling of inadequacy) MONEY, POWER, & CONTROL......

      Be a tool, but actions speak louder than words... And Obama in his drone strike murder campaign against innocent people says it ALL....

    • 5 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
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      Vic_Romano  
    • Anonmaly:

      As I posted below, just because I'm completely dissatisfied with the current administration doesn't mean that I'm going to support a candidate who, for all intents and purposes, represents such a huge leap backwards in so many ways.

    • 5 months ago
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    • http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2011/09/30/krs-one-to-r...

      I guess the author of this pathetic hit piece didn't do his research because if he did he would have been aware of blacks being in support of the old racist white bigot.

      KRS-One to Rock the Ron Paul Revolution Tour

      KRS-One isn't one to shy away from his, um, unique political views—the only thing crazier than 9/11 being an inside job is rapping with R.E.M.—so it's not too surprising that the influential emcee is making the rounds in support of the dopest of Republican Presidential candidates... Ron Paul.

      You thought I was going to say Herman Cain, didn't you? Racist.

      KRS-One is headlining The Ron Paul R3volution Tour—which is a shameful title since any man born in 1935 (!) should never have to revert to the same EXTREME rules that only seem to apply to Fast & Furious sequels—which will swing by the Mt. Tabor Theater on October 16th. In politically volatile times like now, it's important to remember the famous words Gill Scott-Heron said: tH3 R3volution W1LL n0t B t3l3v1s3d, V0t3 r0n P4ul!

    • 5 months ago
  • ithink
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      ithink  
    • At what point did the link go from Paul to Obama i must have missed it [nope read it again it is about ron paul].Isn,t it amazing no matter what an article or discussion is about someone has to insert an anti obama comment.Of course on the positive side it causes the people who aren,t into politics that much but are starting to think about the coming elections will start checking Obama out and learn the truth and that is a good thing.

    • 5 months ago
  • jeffreyak
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • MotherForTruth:

      If you don't like gossip, you should share Misti's criticism of Paul. Did you hear all of the gossiping that was put in Ron Paul's newsletter about MLK? Judge Paul on his action of producing these newsletters in his name.

    • 5 months ago
  • artemis6
  • MotherForTruth
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      Paratus  
    • This is REALLY tiring. No wonder people are disgusted with the election process. Nothing Paul said, at least in the so-called "proof" offered at the link or in this opening post, depicts racism. Actually when the left trots out this card I yawn and my eyes glaze over. It is the Boy who Cried Wolf all over and over again.
      Ron Paul is the only real difference in this race and that includes the present Incompetent in Chief we have. No one will believe unproven allegations against Paul regarding mistresses as Cain was destroyed (that gambit was about as low as things can get) so I guess racism will have to do. The Democrat/liberal tactics in elections are so disgusting it sets a new low in behavior.

    • 5 months ago
  • wally60
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  • Judgian12365
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    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      Again,President Obama, in his book, is describing the racist attitudes of people where he lived when he was growing up. Given that he was three years old when the Civil Rights act passed, Barach would have been growing up in an America only very slightly after desegregation.
      That people, both white and black, around him where he lived growing up maintained racist attitudes towards one another, therefore, is no great surprise.
      Nowhere in there did i see or hear President Obama speak of himself as harboring any hatred for any person, white or black.
      having read the President's book, i can save you a lot of time by telling you right here and now that no such passage exists.
      When the President told Keith Olberman of MSNBC that he didn't know of Reverend Jeremiah Wrights videotaped comments before he saw the videos, he may very well have been telling the truth, and was definitely truthful in stating that he had not been in attendance at the church at the time that the videos themselves were made.
      There is nothing in the brief passage from President Obama's book in whih he mentions Reverend Wright that the comments he writes that Wright was making in church about Sharpsville, (Pennsylvania?) and Hiroshima, Japan are the same as, or even similar in any way to, the comment Reverend Wright makes on the video regarding the Sharpsville Massacre of March 21, 1960 (the year before Barack Obama was born in Hawaii),
      or the vidoetaped comments of Wright's likening America's Harry Truman's post-Second-World-War peacetime thermonuclear annihilation of the city of Hiroshima, (instantaneously vaporizing a hundred thousand innocent Japanese civilians on August 9, 1945, several months after the Japanese government's ultimately unsuccessful attempts to communicate their desire for a full and unconditional surrender to the United States)
      to Osama Bin Laden's 19 Al-Quaieda hijackers' airplane bombings of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan, New York City on September 11, 2001, (murdering three thousand American citizens).

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
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    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      "he is talking about whites as a whole. "
      President Obama writes in his book, and i quote: "I was learning that black people could be mean and then some."
      The rest of the passages the video quotes from the book are what another black man is telling young Barack ABOUT white people.
      It is therefore not President Obama's point of view at al, but rather someone else's.
      So how, exactly, does this sin some bizarre way prove the President is racist?

      "I'm sure he was never there or ever heard Racist Reverand's racist comments in twenty years."
      He never said any such thing.
      What he told Keith Olberman was that he was not present when the videos were being made, which was true, and that he had not heard the specific comments that reverend Wright makes on the said tapes until he saw the tapes themselves himself, which may very well have been true as well.
      Once more again, i fail to see how it is that any of this at all proves in any way whatsoever that the Democratically-majority elected President of the United States is, has ever been, or ever will be a racist.

    • 5 months ago
  • Judgian12365
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    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      "Why are you a blind worshiper of Obama"
      "worship" is a word with far too many theistic religious cult implications for my tastes, but i will say that, at this point, at least as far as the 2012 election goes, one would pretty much NEED to be blind in order to NOT be a supporter of President Obama.

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • Judgian12365
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      Judgian12365  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      " I don't believe he never heard Wright make a racist comment in thirty years."
      He never said that.

      Yes, Ron Paul is a racist, as well as a sexist, a misogynist, and a homophobe.
      But his blind ignorant bigotry matters less to me than the fact that he is a reactionary regressive anti-government ideologue and zealot

    • 5 months ago
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    • Judgian12365:

      Yeah worship may have been a bit lite, Yikes I'm sorry you couldn't see what I was doing and I'll stop messing with you so you don't have to waste any more time with those long post. I did get some comedy out of it. :)
      Have a good night

    • 5 months ago
  • Judgian12365
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    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      President Obama stating that his grandmother's racism was "typical" of the environment in which she was raise is not a racist thing for him to say. Given that Obama's grandmother was raised in the Jim Crow era prior to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, prior to racial desegregation and reintegration in America, the racist attitudes that Obama describes his grandmother as having had when Barack was a young child WERE, in fact, typical of the Pre-desegregation Jim Crow era in which his grandmother grew up.
      So stating that his grandmother's racism was "typical" of her environment is not racist, but a fact.

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • BobbytBenchley
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    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      President Obama was not referring to his grandmother as being typical of all white people.
      He was characterizing his grandmother's attitudes as typical of white people of her generation.
      His statement, as i have already pointed out, was a historically, geographically, and sociologically accurate representation.

      If you were to categorize the attitudes of a black person toward white people in South Africa under apartheid, or in America under Jim Crow, as being "typical" of the attitudes of black people being oppressed toward their oppressors, i would have to say that no, that statement would not be racist, as it more likely than not would be at least based upon accurate information, in that oppressed peoples throughout history do, indeed, tend to have very much the same, or at the very least strikingly similar, attitudes toward their oppressors, regardless of who, where, or when they might happen to be.

      So i do suppose that it would depend greatly upon what it was that you were saying that the "black guy" in question was typical OF, as to whether your statement might be racist or not.

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
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      Judgian12365  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      "Do you think ALL white people were the same"
      A "typical" white person does not need to be the embodiment or personification of every single white person.
      A "typical" white person need only share the key, telltale signature, and/or distinctive distinguishing characteristics of the majority of the "white" racial and/or ethnic sociological demographic.
      That's what "typical" means.

      "He should of said Some white people"
      He never said all white people.

    • 5 months ago
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