Comedy | January 02, 2012 | 127 comments

Wake Up, Ron Paul would be the perfect Trojan Horse to destroy Social Security!

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With the eminent collapse of the European Union, and the World Wide Financial House of cards in 2012 the long desired Austerity cuts to our most prized Social Security System Ron Paul would like nothing more then to sign those measures into law! 30 years of unrealistic Tax Breaks for the wealthy have put our nation in debt, not Social Safety nets such as Medicare and Social Security. I can't think of a more perfect way of letting the Rich skate away with your money that have refused to pay in raises and job creation. Don't forget it was the Republicans that have put in place two Wars to suck the nation dry from the bottom up, stopping at just above the middle Class to pay for these Wars. And now a Republican is supposed to fix it? Sure, it's right out of the Republican play book!
A public weary of our Imperialistic Foreign policy's, is a given and a wonderful idea to pull out everywhere around the World. But to place a Perfect Trojan Horse in Ron Paul in the most powerful job would be an extremely bad idea. Mr. Paul is on record of his hatred of abortion, Medicare, Social Security, and several Departments within the Government. I'm not sure how much he alone could do as President to destroy these programs but it has been a Republican wet dream to destroy the FDR New Deal for decades. Just when the Government will be needed to shore up such programs, an anti-social agent would be in the White House. The outright majority of Americans want the Rich to pay a bigger share of Taxes because they alone have benefited from extremely low Tax rates for 3 decades. Don't fall for this charade that is Ron Paul! A Ron Paul Presidency would be a Progressive Nightmare, and when polled recently the most popular political word was Progressive by a landslide! Just as we Progressives are about to turn the corner the worst thing would be a Ron Paul Presidency!
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127 comments // Wake Up, Ron Paul would be the perfect Trojan Horse to destroy Social Security!

  • spoon
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      spoon  

    • Don't forget Ronald Reagan increased (regressive) Social Security wage taxes by 23%, and by almost 150% for self-employed Americans. (He increased it by 23% then doubled it for them.) This with the explanation that the SS pay-as-you-go system up to then would not sustain Baby Boomers in their retirement, so they would have to PRE-pay for theirs. That makes them the only generation to not only have paid to support the two generations before them, but also to pre-pay for their own. And yes Ron Paul would destroy rather than save Social Security (and Medicare), but so would Obama (just not as fast).

    • 5 months ago
  • Saladin
    • +1
      Saladin  

    • He's not a Trojan horse, his opinion on these issues is totally open.

      He would destroy every Federal Agency he could get his hands on, regardless of what it would actually do to the country at large.

      You want to see what a Ron Paul country looks like? Open a history book. His policies were all tried and all failed prior to 1932.

      I imagine his administration, if he were ever elected, would be incredibly similar to the Coolidge Presidency. You know, the guy who didn't do fucking anything and just let all the bubbles build themselves up.

    • 5 months ago
  • good_stuff
    • +2
      good_stuff  
    • Saladin:

      "You want to see what a Ron Paul country looks like? Open a history book. His policies were all tried and all failed prior to 1932"

      -You seem to be implying that our country was worthless before 1932. Sure, we weren't quite a super power back then, but are we really better off back then or today? Sometimes smaller is better... I just don't want to deal with complications between states.

    • 5 months ago
  • remanns
    • -1
      remanns  

    • - - -he could however,...PARDON,....EVERY SINGLE NON-VIOLENT drug offender in the LEGAL SYSTEM,....first thing every morning.
      The president COULD,....single-handedly,...END the effective enforceability of prohibition,...nation wide,...overnight. Yepper.

      And he has the ENTIRE justice department to help him make the lists and have the paperwork ready.

      Now THAT, is something I would love to see,....if you are going to allow that much POWER into the hands of the executive branch,....well,....might as well see someone BRANCH OUT !

    • 5 months ago
  • misfit20
    • -1
      misfit20  

    • The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

      -Thomas Jefferson

    • 5 months ago
  • Saladin
    • +2
      Saladin  
    • misfit20:

      I agree, time to tax the shit out of the non-working, non-productive upper classes and provide for people who actually do all the important work in this country.

      That is what you meant, right?

    • 5 months ago
  • faye59
  • warman1138
  • littlwarrior
    • +4
      littlwarrior  

    • who honestly thinks that Ron Paul can win this thing? I actually would kind of like him to, I don't agree with him on all points but he is defiantly the best of the republican candidates. I mean really our other options are just not even worth mentioning, lets be real here. That being said I would much rather just have Obama for the next four years and the republican party is obviously feeling the same because look at the contenders, then look at who the real powerhouses are in the Republican party. Republicans have put forth a bunch of nobody's and nothings so that when they come out with contenders for the next election they can say things like "Wow our party is much stronger this time around." and "O look how strong our contenders are this elections, look how much we have changed over the last four years." Blah Blah Blah. Just support Obama, vote for Obama, and forget these assholes.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
    • +6
      joeredford [removed]  
    • littlwarrior:

      Fist of all...welcome back.
      Ron Paul on gay marriage:

      " Same sex marriage at the federal level would be an act of social engineering hostile to liberty."

      " We must protect a state's right not to be forced to accept same sex marriage."

      " I think Don't Ask, Don't Tell is a decent policy."

      " There should be no affirmative action for any group including homosexuals."

      He is no friend of ours.

    • 5 months ago
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • joeredford:

      Why thank you, and yes I know he is no friend of ours, but neither is he an enemy he supports states rights to legislate both for an against gay marriage. Will I vote for him? No mot definatly not, however if he wins the primary Obama is a shoe in, and if by some miraculous and cruel twist of fate he does win we will all be better off than if it were one of his opponents. Imagine how we would be if it were Rick Perry or Michelle Bachman, or Rick Santorum?

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
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    • littlwarrior:

      Paul, Perry, Santorum or Bachmann ( hell-any republican) wins and I'm off to Costa Rico. You are welcome to visit anytime.
      My problem with turning gay marriage over to the states is that I can think of at least 28 of them that would never approve gay marriage. Of course I'm not really worried about it as Paul has as much chance of being elected as I have of turning straight overnight.
      And , now I have to boycott Kelly Clarkson.

    • 5 months ago
  • ThresholdBroken
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • joeredford:

      Well if Ron Paul gets elected I will just move to Mass. or Oregon, or Montana. I will be fine in those states and under Ron Paul he would strive for a government that recognized any contract meaning that my marriage would be recognized federally. We will just have to leave the shitty states in mass. Then we can set up rescue programs for poor children who need to come out of those states. Or we can just all vote for Obama and wait it out for the Y generation to take over, we the y generation are much less bigoted than our parents you will find.

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
    • littlwarrior:

      Can't wait for the Y generation... I'm getting too old to wait for much of anything. LOL.But I'm happy for your generation to take over. You will have all the rights and advantages that I could only have dreamed about. I'll be ecstatic going to my grave knowing that your generation and future generations won't have to face the discrimination and personal difficulties we did. It's been a long fight but worth every minute of it ,knowing it means an end to the bigotry and hate.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • joeredford
    • +2
      joeredford [removed]  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      Yes, I most certainly do want federal regulation of marriage. Paul is moron. Why the hell should I not be allowed to get married in Texas or Utah, but I can in New York or Massachusettes. I am a citizen of the United States and should have the same rights as any other citizen. No state should have any right to tell me I cannot be married wherever or whenever I chose. State's Right's is nothing but a code phrase for government sanctioned discrimination. Mr. Paul may take his idiotic ill thought out opinions and shove them where the moon don't glow and the sun don't shine.
      I understand full well the ramifications of Paul's statements , it is you who haven't investigated the cause and effect of his fatastical and radically right wing bloviations. Putting up quotes I don't undestand? I understand them all too well, that is the problem. Paul does not represent me or any of my interests, nor those of any gay person I know.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
  • rhythmstick
    • +4
      rhythmstick  

    • Please wake up. the American Dream is dying in your face.You work hard you support your elders and they don't give a shit. I have mine go get yours. Congress in washinton knows that you won't get yours even though you are paying for those that came before you. Congressional folks have TRI care. It is different from medicaid and medicare. They do not pay a dime for there heathcare. Yet they dictate how much you are worth. Let them eat cake is there motto. As far as social security goes try eliminating it from your paycheck. It ain't going to happen. You will pay and pay for the sins of george bush, his father and ronald reagun. And yet the American people keep voting for people that want to screw them at every turn. You seem to think you have the power of the vote. L.M.A.O. The world as your parents knew it does not exsist any more. Education is imperative. Education is the only way that we can save the worild as we once new it.

    • 5 months ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • rerushg
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      rerushg  

    • Well, Kenny, I just can't quite bring myself to cut RP's legs off quite yet. It's not really our job anyway, the GOP will take care of that one way or the other even if it takes a cut brake line and jammed accelerator pedal.
      Anyway, the certified kiss-of-death for any candidate is for us Progressives to actually like 'em. Works every damn time.

    • 5 months ago
  • ThresholdBroken
  • kennymotown
  • ZiggyStrange
  • kennymotown
  • BoichikSuperJew
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      BoichikSuperJew [removed]  

    • For him to be a "Trojan Horse", he would have to disguise himself to be a benign "gift" to America but anyone who bothers to see through his subterfuge already knows that he is hellbent to not only destroy Social Security, but all aspects of a civil society.

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • faye59
  • Kilnsapper
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      Kilnsapper  

    • MSNBC tried to slander Dr. Paul and got called out on it. If your retirement is based on Social Security, you might as well have zero retirement. It will not be there. The truth sometimes can be very painful, and yet....it is where we are. We must see what is in front of us. Vote Ron Paul. There is no difference in any other Republican candidate and Obama. Voting records speak truth.

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • Kilnsapper
  • kennymotown
  • SFirman
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      SFirman  
    • Kilnsapper:

      Ron Paul wants young people to get out of SS and be on their own. He voted for putting SS in personal retirement accounts which Bush tried to pass.. Thank goodness Democrats voted it down. Just what we needed SS in the stock market to lose.
      Paul believes SS and Medicare are unconstitutional, compared it to slavery. President Obama wants to save our safety nets. You say "Vote Ron Paul" Not me. Obama has my vote.

    • 5 months ago
  • faye59
  • joeredford
    • +6
      joeredford [removed]  
    • Kilnsapper:

      Dismantling the federal government and giving states the right to determine who has civil rights and who doesn't is just about the dumbest political idea I have ever heard, and I have been around a long time.
      I use Ron Paul flyers as toilet paper.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
  • Dagum
    • +6
      Dagum  

    • It's all moot. The whole system is about done. What you are voting for in the 2012 Election is who will manage the coming collapse, the outcome of which will be quite significant.

      The difference between managers of the collapse is an involuntary vacation in a FEMA camp.

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • KB723
  • kennymotown
  • KB723
  • USWGO_production_committee
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      USWGO_production_committee  
    • Dagum:

      FEMA Camp! You mean Concentration Camp! Or an internment camp where Japanese and Germans were forcefully thrown into and forced military labor camps of U.S. citizens. Look at your history!!!! Internment camps were real in America and were very close to concentration camps except that those places didn't commit genocide.

    • 5 months ago
  • Kilnsapper
  • KB723
  • Dagum
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      Dagum  
    • kennymotown:

      The labels no longer have meaning. The political system has become so co-opted and corrupted that the (R) and (D) are empty shells and vessels that are no longer relevant. They are a dog and pony show for the masses while the same agenda continues to be implemented at an increasingly faster and more frightening speed.

      The coming collapse is not some nearly unpredictable accident. It's not even a probable occurrence that a prudent economist would be able to predict with a little research. No, the coming collapse is a guaranteed happenstance being brought about as part of a deliberate design.

      I don't know who the ideal manager for the collapse will be. But what I do know is that it is not the man who believes the executive branch has the authority and power to indefinitely detain U.S. Citizens without trial.

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • Dagum
  • SFirman
  • SFirman
    • +4
      SFirman  
    • Dagum:

      Part of the bill was to fund troops coming home from Iraq. You do remember Obama brought them out of Iraq. If he had vetoed the bill you would have complained he wasn't taking care of the troops. You can't have it both ways. He will never please everyone. NOT possible.

    • 5 months ago
  • faye59
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
    • +7
      joeredford [removed]  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      Yeah, right. One party wants you to keep your money and create a decent life for you and your family, the other wants to give it all to the 1%. No difference at all? The modern republican party, including Ron Paul ,is the most dangerous thing to happen to America since Joe McCarthy. But if you like having your rights stripped from you, by all means vote for one of those fascist bastards and see what happens to you.

    • 5 months ago
  • SFirman
    • +1
      SFirman  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      If you are refering to Libya, it was not an illegal war. We were part of the UN. The War Powers Act made it legal. We did not use drones, put troops on the ground, no American was killed. He did not assassinate a US citizen. Any one that moves to Yemen, joins a terriorist group against our country is no longer a citizen in my eyes.
      Yes we used drones in Afghanistan, A war GW started. Obama brought the troops home from Iraq, another war GW started.
      I don't like war, but we have been in them ever since I can remember. Long before Obama, and yes innocent people are always killed, like all the Americans killed on 911.

    • 5 months ago
  • Anonmaly
    • -4
      Anonmaly  

    • Really....

      And Obama hasn't been the the "Trojan horse" for an absolute police state?

      What's fuct up, Ron Paul has been pretty clear (if you'd actually pay attention to him) there are things he'd like to do, and there are things he CAN do....

      "Destroying" social security would fall into that "like to do" category.

      Further it's kinda misleading to illustrate HALF of his position, it's not as if he'd even like to gut social security and leave Americans with no viable substitute.

      But much like on the "right" the "left" only seems to like the whole truth when it's convenient.

      And fuck money, it's not actual food, shelter, or anything else important.... I'm going to laugh when the marvels of modern technological advancements lead a fat lazy populace to it's doom.... Learn to do for yourselves, why covet what others use to oppress you, kinda stupid & hypocritical if you ask most philosophers...

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • JRBarilla
  • SFirman
  • 20thsieclefox
    • -4
      20thsieclefox  
    • Anonmaly:

      agreed, also that reminds me of this:

      Only after the last tree has been cut down
      Only after the last river has been poisoned
      Only after the last fish has been caught
      Only then will you find
      That money can not be eaten

    • 5 months ago
  • dugdog47
    • 0
      dugdog47  

    • So, if we elect Ron Paul, we get no medicaid or social security, if we elect one of the gop whackjobs we get a corporate ran country, and if we re-elect Obama it will be a fascist police state. Which is the lesser of three evils?

    • 5 months ago
  • ZiggyStrange
    • +9
      ZiggyStrange  
    • dugdog47:

      Hi Dugdog if we elect Obama there is no police state. Just right wing shills saying things that are not true. Obama will not use1021 against American citizens. If he does we get rid of him. The others including Ron Paul, and especially Ron Paul will turn this country into 50 feudal states. The ideology of greed only pays off for the wealthy.

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • dugdog47
    • -3
      dugdog47  
    • ZiggyStrange:

      Hello Ziggy, nice to see you here! I hope you are right about Obama, but he has apparently just shredded the bill of rights. His"promise" to not use his new power on American citizens hopefully will go better than his campaign promises.

    • 5 months ago
  • JRBarilla
    • -3
      JRBarilla  
    • ZiggyStrange:

      Obama has already assassinated American citizens without trial. Good Lord, you partisan hacks on both sides of the spectrum are completely and utterly blinded by the same old BS talking points from the elites in both parties. Wake the F up.

    • 5 months ago
  • dugdog47
  • ZiggyStrange
    • +7
      ZiggyStrange  
    • JRBarilla:

      Who will you be supporting?
      Give me a candidate that "can be elected" that is not bought and paid for?
      Try to keep it civil, I did not come in here throwing aspersions. But I can be just as big an asshole as "anyone" here including you. OK?

    • 5 months ago
  • USWGO_production_committee
  • dugdog47
  • KB723
  • SFirman
  • faye59
  • faye59
    • +7
      faye59  
    • ZiggyStrange:

      Ron Paul is a figment of his own imagination. If it were up to him we'd still be separate and unequal. He's out-dated in his thoughts and he might as well dust off his old confederate uniform and put it on. He will never win the presidency.

    • 5 months ago
  • faye59
  • faye59
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • ZiggyStrange
  • faye59
  • ZiggyStrange
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
  • joeredford
  • faye59
    • +1
      faye59  
    • joeredford:

      Its sad when the young are led astray, especially by someone who has no clue about what they really need. Taking advantage of the poor and elderly has become a team sport and it has got to stop.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
    • +1
      joeredford [removed]  
    • faye59:

      Since this generation was so much more open and tolerant than others, I had hopes of a different kind of future. But so many are so politically naive, they easily fall prey to the most cynical elements of our society. Paul is exploiting the young to implement his twisted world vision and they are falling for it.

    • 5 months ago
  • alexandrek
  • kennymotown
  • ASaltyDog
  • kennymotown
  • JRBarilla
  • kennymotown
  • alexandrek
  • JRBarilla
  • alexandrek
  • kennymotown
  • faye59
    • +6
      faye59  
    • JRBarilla:

      Rot and balderdash. All that will get you are people without a safety net and wall street control of everyone's retirement fund. I don't trust that scenario, but you may if that is your choice.

    • 5 months ago
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