Ron Paul Endorsed by David Duke, former KKK Grand Wizard
source: http://www.bilerico.com/2012/01/ron_paul_endorsed_by_former_kkk_leader.php
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"Everybody, all of us back in the 80?s and 90?s, felt Ron Paul was, you know, unusual in that he had actually been a Congressman, that he was one of us and now, of course, that he has this broad demographic-broad base of support," Mr. Black said on his broadcast yesterday.
Mr. Black is a former Klansman and member of the American Nazi Party who founded the "white nationalist" website Stormfront in 1995. He donated to Mr. Paul in 2007 and has been photographed with the candidate. Mr. Paul has vocal supporters in Stormfront's online forum.
http://www.bilerico.com/2012/01/ron_paul_endorsed_by_former_kkk_leader.php
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TheBigIssue
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If it said "Ron Paul supports David Duke" then I would have an issue!
- 4 months ago
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TheBigIssue
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Anonmaly
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Did you guys forget the president of the NAACP Austin supports (at least defended) Ron Paul....?
http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/12/24/ron-paul-no-racist-naacp-austin-pr...
Speaking out against the charges when they first surfaced during the last Republican primary in 2007, Linder said he has personally known Paul for 20 years and heard him speak out against police oppression in minority communities, racial biases in mandatory drug sentencing, and favorably about late civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
“Knowing Ron Paul’s intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that [....] so I think it’s very easy for folks who want to to take his position out of context and that’s what I’m hearing,”
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Anonmaly
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Radical_Centrist
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Anonmaly:
White guys on Current know far more about racism than a Black guy who heads up a major branch of the NAACP!
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Radical_Centrist
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Anonmaly
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Did you forget "Stormfront"? The other hate groups?
He doesn't even deny they support him, imagine that radical hate groups being anti race-war in the form of prohibition. Anti death-penalty (which disproportionately kills minorities), another stance these hate-groups are supporting by supporting Paul....
They are hate groups, no argument....
But trust me there are far worse things hate groups could do, and their support of him doesn't imply he supports their radical hateful ideologies....
(but really hate groups anti drug-war, and anti death penalty in supporting Paul..... That's a problem?)
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Anonmaly
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dadevil
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YOUR USING THE RACE CARD
& YOUR FULL OF SHIT F U
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maasanova
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NippersMastersVoice:
"ALL of this is IRREFUTABLE."
ALL OF THIS was written by a rapper who wrote a racist rap song about preffering White females over Black females and who bragged in the song about having sex with an underaged Britany Spears.
Why don't you cite your sources next time Sandy so we can see where your get your bs from!
And also throw in some SPLC spam while you're at it!
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maasanova
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Paratus
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Gee, Dr. Paul has a lot in commone with the Occupy movement. I seem to remember that OWS was blessed by the KKK.
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Paratus
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bizet3754
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IT'S NOT ABOUT RON PAUL, IT'S ABOUT YOU!! YOU!! "The notion that there is something less disqualifying about support for murder and oppression than support for regressive and racist policies cannot stand scrutiny. THE RIGHT TO NOT BE KILLED PRECEDES ALL OTHER RIGHTS. It is the foundation on which all other rights rest. What value can any rights have if they are not protected by a right to not be killed? Freedom of expression is no solace to a corpse. Likewise, what value do other rights have if those rights are not protected by rights of the accused? There is no value in freedom of assembly or religion if you can be thrown into a cage without a trial where you can invoke those rights. THE RIGHT TO PROTEST HAS NO MEANING IF THE EXECUTIVE CAN RESPOND TO THAT PROTEST BY KILLING YOU, without accountability, legal challenge, or review. Civil liberties are not merely right on principle. They are the necessary bedrock on which all conduct in a free society must rest." Freddie De Boer.
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VFORVENDETTA
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Really great post Jeff! Thanks much.
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VFORVENDETTA
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FoosMaster
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Regardless of whether or not Paul supports the KKK views, the KKK Does support All of Paul's policies. That says a LOT about Paul’s policies!!!
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FoosMaster
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maasanova
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A better question to ask would be, if the writer of this blog is so against David Duke and his views, what is he doing following a David Duke broadcast?
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maasanova
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freecrack
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maasanova:
the same thing you do as you follow aipac,hollywood,the adl,and what ever zionist boogeyman you can spin into your usual demonization.
the same thing i do as i see what those such as yourself are up to
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freecrack
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maasanova
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Who cares? What does this prove other than David Duke supports Ron Paul?
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maasanova
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Radical_Centrist
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maasanova:
People seem to be a bit out of sorts over the fact that Duke has endorsed Dr. Paul, but have no problem with the FACT that Goldman-Sachs has bought & paid for Obama.
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maasanova:
a shared idealogy?
ya know how you claim it matters when you cite rabbis who support various israeli governmental parties when they say racist shit.
same standard no?
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maasanova:
It's an attempt at sweeping logical fallacy under the rug... A most extreme example of guilt by association.
These people are dumb as bricks.
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Radical_Centrist:
Hey, I can even go one further than that.
If you want to talk about the support of REAL RACISTS, Obama solicited the support of American Israel Public Affairs Committe (AIPAC), a racist organization established on the belief that an entire nation is for Jews only.
Hows that for racist supporters?
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maasanova
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDL64faF-c&feature=BFa&list=PLA159B3D240...
cuz goldman sachs has no agenda against any innocent people in particular in the interest of disproportinately offering power to others based on race.
goldman sachs just like every other business is one of greed.kind of a huge difference.dont think you are racist as you pose goldman sachs as the parallel to duke, as if "goldman" makes then a jewish organization?
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freecrack
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maasanova
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freecrack:
I've never claimed that a racist rabbi supported any Israeli official and nor do I care.
If some crazed rabbi and his followers want to believe that gentiles are destined to be slaves of Jews, that's his problem not mine.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
how's this for friggin idiocy? *Every candidate spoke to AIPAC at the AIPAC annual convention.* And you don't know jack about the organization itself, much less what Obama told them - the fact that Obama is not supporting Israel's garbage at the moment, and which every media in the world report is cause of difficulty in relations between the countries - not only refutes your argument, but shows that don't know anything about current events, either.
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regroce
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maasanova
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regroce:
Unlike "all of the other candidates," Ron Paul has never solicited the support of a racist organization that believes a nation is for only one group of people.
And furthermore, Ron Paul supports Israel and believes that they have a right to defend themselves WITHOUT US aid and involement.
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maasanova:
you literaly just a comment seperated from this one claimed about obama that which this article claims about paul.guilt by association in an attempt at demonization.
so zionism is now not jewish nationalism, but jews only?
wierd how the only zionist nation on earth is comprised of a over million non jews.making a fifth of their population not jewish.but by all means, pretend your narrow view of what zionism is serves as truth, while real world facts the rest of us choose to form our opinions on, prove the opposite to be true.keep spinning fellah
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freecrack
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regroce:
apparently according to this logic obama loves corn growers cuz he took the ethanol pledge there fore must hate potatoe farmers.i guess obama really is a secret muslims terrorist for dealing with opec too.
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maasanova:
actualy, obama has solicited the support of organizations that when spun can be shown racistly (as you demonstrate) while ron paul literaly is shaking hands with the people from stormfront.
or do you want to claim stormfront is less racist than aipc?
i mean we can keep going if you like, but you know as well as i do all you have is inuendo as streams of actual direct racism is surrounding paul.
but please lets play this game - 4 months ago
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freecrack:
Ron Paul hasn't solicited money nor endorsements from racist organizations such as AIPAC. Obama has; both from AIPAC and La Raza.
With my Obama analogy, I'm illustrating the difference between racists supporting a candidate vs a candidate soliciting racists for support. That's the difference pal.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
flip-flop alert!
Obama is antisemitic because he has support from folks who disagree with actions by the Israeli government!!!
(but those same a-Paul-stles think its okay for their hero to support a country that excludes and restricts others who live there in the same borders) - 4 months ago
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regroce
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freecrack:
he doesn't eat french fries, either ... that muslim...
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maasanova:
BULLSHIT ALERT!!! No PAC can contribute to ANY campaign.....
XENOPHOBE ALERT!!!
And La Raza is a US organization that represents US citizens of Hispanic descent. Problem w/ that? Are you one of those pimply whiteys that freaks out about how many Hispanic people we have in our country? Are you dumb enough not to know that Hispanic families in the US have held US citizenship for much longer than most white American families? Since they were here before their property first became claimed by the US? And were already citizens of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Utah and Colorado when the US got all that territory? - 4 months ago
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maasanova:
it proves the positions of those who are the demonstrative and prejudicial, who have reached a conclusion before any evidence existed one way or the other.
you know, how all your positions function.
ya know how helen thomas was the victim of a grand scheme rather than simply let go as everyone is when they say shit that their employers dont want them to say publicaly.
ya know how jews being involved in hollywood means a conspiracy must be afoot, rather than all industries have groups who succeed in them more than others.like how the auto industry is a christian dominated enterprise, but means nothing more than that.and aipac supports israel, and in classic guilt by association (coming to a conclusion before the facts) catagorizing them as racist in nature as result.whilst being unable to actualy cite how aipac is racist at all, or even how israel is for that matter.
you know full well how this line of spin works, as almost every effort from you on current is based in the same exact methodology.
ya know 4 israelis dancing must mean they did 9/11 right?
wanna keep going and go through all your positions and see how many of them are based in your prejudices rather than any facts? - 4 months ago
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maasanova:
yeah, i shot down your premise that israel is racist in policy and that aipac is racist as well via association so i really cant speak to anything you query based on them being racist until you can counter the info i offered.
being as a comment seperated is enough room for you to forget what you have just stated ill reiterate for ya.
aipac has no racist policies.and israel has no racist policies either despite being a jewish nationalist state as over a 5th of their population are not jewish, and availed of all the jewish citizens are.
the difference is paul is swimming in racism while the racism you try to sell is conjecture at best.hey if i were you i too would want to get rid of all actual racism so i could continue to sell those i deem racist as such.this really makes it hard for you to show racism, when this overt shit shows what it actualy is.
maybe just kick back.we all know we have the memory span of pro-wrestling fans, and in 2 weeks you will be able to resume your usual shit without having the real examples showing how wrong you are.
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freecrack
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regroce:
freedom fries only
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regroce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiARh785S7M&feature=BFa&list=PL91136398EB...
not entirely on topic but of the same cognative disfunction - 4 months ago
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maasanova
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freecrack:
AIPAC's mission statement is in itself racist as it works to protect the "Jewish state" even though Israel has Christians, Muslims, Bedoins and others who don't identify as Jews living there.
"AIPAC’s staff and citizen activists educate decision makers about the bonds that unite the United States and Israel and how it is in America’s best interest to help ensure that the JEWISH STATE is safe, strong and secure."
Obama solicits support from this organization who is so instrumental in sending Americans off to kill Arab Muslim and Christians on behalf of "protecting the Jewish state."
I don't even think the denial of the idea of a racist Israel comment is worthy of being addressed at this point.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
its just an adjective.the jewish state.not a state for only jews, but the state that is the jewish state, which in practice is not racist.making their mission statement to protect a state that while being described as jewish, is in practice a polyglot.
aipac is not only not racist, but literaly in action is deticated to protecting a state that is not racist in its policies despite the adjective used to describe said state.man you are really in love with what could be based on what is said rather than what actualy is as it is done.
when was it again that we sent a single solitary soldier to protect the jewish state again?cuz i missed that.it wasnt in 48, or 67,or the intefadas, or the yom kippur war, or ever in the last 63 yrs.so if you could cite the instance in which america has ever sent american soldiers to protect israel we would all love to see that.
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freecrack
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maasanova
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freecrack:
Acknowledging Israel as a Jewish state is as outrageous as calling America a "White Christian Nation," or South Africa a "White South Africa."
The point is that Ron Paul doesn't solicit the support of organizations that fight to secure America as a "WHITE CHRISTIAN NATION," yet he is accused of doing so.
Meanwhile, all of these other politicians openly solicit funds and support from these organizations that fight to secure Israel as a "JEWISH STATE," yet somehow this isn't considered racist.
Logic.Doesn't.Follow.
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maasanova
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freecrack:
It was Cenk Uygur not I who first brought up the FACT that Obama is bought & paid for by Goldman-Sachs. I could care less if the names were derived from Orthodox Christian Martins.
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Radical_Centrist:
i thought we cleared this up when you posted an israel thread from a nazi website and claimed you werent racist cuz it wasnt your creation.you were still the one distributing it and endorsing it.
cenk uygur didnt draw a paralled between goldman sach's functioning idealogicaly as a grand dragon of the kul kuux klan does.that was all you fellah.no one but you made goldman sach's on par with the klan.
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freecrack
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maasanova:
acknowledging israel as a jewish state is as outrageous as calling all the middle eastern nations arab nationalist, which we do and they are, and it has no racist issues in and of itself.
or is that different some how?
everyone can choose a descriptive adjective to accompany them except the jews?once again you can try to spin words all you want into selling it any way you like, but when its application exists to evaluate ya really cant hold your position when in practice it proves other wise.if israel didnt allow muslim and druz citizens you would have a case.if they didnt make up a massive portion of israel you would have proved your notion that the policy of jewish nationalism as strict as you define it is racist in its application.but while all peoples of all races and religions are citizens of israel availed of all the same rights, the strict interpretation of "jewish nation" is false.
the logic follows as these politicians dont function as obtusely as you do, and actualy accept the full range of what "jewish state" means in practice, as opposed to only viewing it as a topical statement.maybe you should try that.it will help you make sense out of that which doesnt to you thus far.
or maybe our policiticians are just whores in suits and will kiss the ass of any group that will feed them.hmmmm how outside the box
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freecrack:
As I recall the information was 100% correct even if the source was unsavory to say the least. My Grandfather often says "Even a BROKEN clock is right twice a day." When the Federal Reserve starts buying US Treasury Bonds from the Klan at "HIGHLY" inflated prices I will share your outrage at them till then I will ignore them as everyone should. The Klan is a dieing organization of inbred idiots, Goldman-Sachs is a monster of a whole other sort!
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Radical_Centrist:
wow you are honestly still going to support nazi propaganda.wow.
you are too smart to not know how propaganda works.like crying about the americans fire bombing dresdin as a war crime, whilst leaving out the part is was within the context of war.just as the list you posted was the same kind of half truths spun to a bigoted end.but hey, you not only want to enjoy, but also distribute nazi propaganda, that is your issue i suppose.so what you are saying is you are more bothered by goldman-sachs who fucked people the same way all greedy businesses do, more than the klan who literaly kill people?
you still havent adressed how they could even come close to being compared to one another reasonably, as well as ending your comment with a declaration that goldman-sachs is something of a whole other sort than the klan.right after you used goldman-sachs as a parallel to the klan.
maybe just avoid racist inuendo and you wont trip up over yourself pretending to not be spreading bigotry as you are doing it
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freecrack:
I indeed understand how propaganda works. I also understand just because a person is wrong MOST of the time does not mean they are wrong all of the time. I agreed with you at the time the site was dubious and posted other sources to corroborate it.
I am not trying to compare the Klan to Goldman-Sachs. I mean they are BOTH horrible organizations for DIFFERENT reasons. Unlike Keith I do not believe a Leopard changes his spots and I think David Duke is still a racist, but that is neither here nor there for the sake of our conversation.
I am getting sick and tired of Corporations buying our Politicians for penny’s on the Dollar. Goldman-Sachs invested 1 Million in Obama and got a return of 13 BILLION! That is a return that would give Bernie Madoff a hard on.
The economic Vulcher's who circle this country are far more dangerous than the Klan has ever been or will be!
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Radical_Centrist:
apparently you arent clear on how propaganda works as you seem to think it is simply a matter of lying, when it is parsing of truth.
fact:we (america) fire bombed dresdin.we bombed the shit out of a major city, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in a sea of chemical fire.
fact:the united states of america is not a criminal state based on this action, as it was an undertaking within the context of a war, the terms of which were unilateral.now if we ignore the part about it being ww2, and what we were doing was standard fare for that conflict, it would read in a way that served to demonize and villify america disproportionately.
much in the same way your listing of palestinian villages destroyed by israel, similarly ignored (omitted) the conflicts in which they were destroyed, who started those conflicts,and the terms of those conflicts.which was and still is a land war.making destruction of villages par for the course.
propaganda as opposed to comprehensive facts.none of what you posted was false, but it was all one sided propaganda specificaly designed to not inform but demonize.i refuse to believe you are stupid and unaware of this, as you know full well what you are doing, as shown by your standard default of claiming "hey i didnt make it up, just shared it".one of the most classic methods of proliferating hate speech cowardly.
tell all those who were killed by church bombings and lynchings how dangerous greedy corperations are compared to the klan.
you get the option of not being swindled by goldman sachs.you do not get the option of not being killed by the klan.your attempts at rationalizing your sick inuendo is disgusting
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freecrack:
"acknowledging israel as a jewish state is as outrageous as calling all the middle eastern nations arab nationalist, which we do and they are, and it has no racist issues in and of itself.
or is that different some how? "
__Umm...it may or may not be no more outrageous for instance to call Egypt a Muslim state since several million Arabs who love there identify as Christians, but the difference would be that we don't have an powerful Arab lobby in Washington that demands our leaders acknowledge their nations as such or they will withold campaing contributions
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maasanova:
so now it isnt the words used to describe the policy that makes it racist, as we have established literalism is a narrow view on the part of the observer not representative of the actual policy.
and its not a matter of how the policy plays out in actual real world terms that defines it as racist or not.
but how much support and funding it gets and from whom huh?so jewish nationalism wouldnt be racist if it werent for aipac.but because aipac is an influencial lobby, it is racist.
i guess then the klan isnt racist, as they dont have a grand power base in government.i guess they use nigger in that not racist way as a term of endearment.care to explain this one now?how the nature of a policy is determined by how powerfull those who lobby for it are as opposed to content or the policy and that policy being put into action.
the best part is your case actualy further screws you cuz you just took away the ability to even claim that zionism is racism if only were allowed to function freely as it would like.being as you have it being such a juggernaut of an entity you cant even play "if".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMtNXli6rbA
I've taken a hard look at David Duke in the past 10 years. He's changed a lot of his ideas. Some of you can't handle that because you, yourselves, refuse to change.David Duke is not the White Supremist that he once was nor is the racist today that some of you still think he is, nor is he the racist that some of you are.
I will still vote for Ron Paul.
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keithponder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lesn3UoBReY&feature=BFa&list=PLA159B3D240...
same racist narrative just using different words to mask what he means.sorry you fell for it - 4 months ago
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keithponder:
Oh! Yes! David Duke is NOT the racist he once was! instead, he's just a scum who hit up people for donations under false claims he needed legal representation in Europe, and spent that money at casinos instead, and then got arrested and convicted for theft/fraud the next time he made back in the ol' US of A.
Yeah. that makes him so much better now. If he's only a scam artist with a criminal record, I feel oh so much more welcoming of his endorsement of Ron Paul.
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keithponder:
Nice KeithPonder...glad you had the intellectual courage to look into the facts and that you don't "fear the smear."
Only by listening to all points of view is how we will get past the issues of race.
By the way, I don't support David Duke or even agree with his views on race, but I am familiar with them just like many others.
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regroce:
try talking opposing shit on his youtube channel.you get blocked so fast.
but it cant be because he is a racist who cant validate his vile crap or nothing lol
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keithponder:
What a total crock of shit. A racist is always a racist. Only mentally defective humans are capable of rationalizing hate. But then you know that don't you. After all, you support Ron Paul.
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maasanova:
Why don't you take your hate down the road Maasanova! Ron Paul is a racist and so are you if you support him.
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JustZ:
I was on Current long before you so I could just as easily ask you to do the same thing.
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freecrack:
Great vid post!
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maasanova:
"Nice KeithPonder...glad you had the intellectual courage to look into the facts and that you don't "fear the smear."
ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha "intellectual courage" ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha you're talking to somebody else about intellectual courage? ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, "to look into the facts" ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, Oh stop! ha,ha,ha,ha,ha your killing me! ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, please stop ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, I can't take anymore! ha,ha,ha,ha,ha........
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VFORVENDETTA:
why thank you kind sir
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freecrack:
Your MOST welcome.
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freecrack:
I see you're still smoking all of that freecrack.
a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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keithponder:
hey im not the black guy so in love with my own ideas that i wouldnt question them when they share a political strain with a klansman.
when some candidate makes a run for president and has what could be viewed as antisemitic policies, as a functioning thinker i wont discount him based on the name calling lavished by his opponents.but when that candidate gets an endorsement from mel gibson, i will definitely take notice that it is no longer the accusation coming from the out side in, but proving itself from the inside out.even if i dont personaly see it.then as a jew who would rather not be subject to any policies that seem viable to mel gibson, will not vote for that candidate.
if you want to pretend that david dukes political end game, and his subsiquent endorsement of a candidate isnt rooted in racial supremecy that would have you being hung from a tree that is your perogative.but dont think for a second im the one functioning without the basic logic and reason a healthy mind would have.especialy when you are advocating for your own demise
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freecrack:
A bigot can't hide. The mere fact of you making a comment about me hanging from a tree is as flagrant as anything that I've ever heard in my entire life. Go to hell and stay. You've got the gaull to print something as insensitive as that and address it to me show your cowardness.You've given me a real quick reminder as to why I left Current last year. Your comment is as chicken shit a comment that I've ever read in my entire life and it's simply because I disagree with you.
Do you hear me calling you a White guy ? Why aren't you calling out all of the others that disagree with you by their race. You're more of a racist than David Duke is right now, in fact you always have been.Of all people on this site, you really don't belong in this debate.
The klansmen are the problem anymore. It's those of you that don't wear sheets and claim that you don't hate, but you feel entitled by way of the dominant skin color in society so you go around telling everyone else what's best for them.
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keithponder:
primarily im calling you out as a black guy in order to make my jewish parallel with mel gibson, as opposed to leaving it simply as a matter of "this is me and that is you".the entire basis of this is in race, making your race and my race rather meaningfull.being that the policies in question are based on them.
you can yell at me all day if you like and call me insensative, but im just saying what the bigots wont say despite believing.if paul was recieving endorsements from a guy whos life was dedicated to an organization that hung jews from trees as policy, then i would expect that to be used as an example of the worst possible scenerio of these policies being endorsed.
im sorry you cant handle the reality of this, but pretending it isnt the case is a luxury.enjoy it all you want, but there have to be others who do not avail ourselves of it as that is "good men doing nothing".
wanna tell me again how racist i am as you are deciding who does and doesnt belong in this debate?
i hope you never have to learn first hand how david duke and those who support his policies feel about the level of respect for race you demand.
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freecrack
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keithponder:
Hey Keithponder I always say that the BIGGEST racist in the room is always the one screaming about how everyone else is a racist, and it just seems to be proven true time and time again.
- 4 months ago
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maasanova
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WOW you people are dumb who are saying this is goodbye for Ron Paul....http://www.infowars.com/paul-haters-caught-planning-to-dress-up-as-kkk-pose-as-p...
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OneLovEvolution:
first of all - infowars isn't exactly a reputable source I'd use as backup.
second of all - even if that story you post is true, how does that refute the fact that Grand Wizard Duke endorsed Paul? How does that refute the fact that the Council of Conservative Citizens (KKK w/o the sheets) is campaigning for him?
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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regroce:
What about Jeremy Wright,Obama's pastor? Anti-American and anti-white, Obama and family attended that church for 20 years, did we forget about it? Did we forget Wright, the pastor( on video, mind you ) saying god d**** America?
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regroce
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bizet3754:
No, we didn't forget Wright. And we didn't forget that Obama renounced Wright, either, after making that comment.
And, btw, there's a big big big difference between a man attending a church whose pastor said "God damn America" and a man who accepts endorsements from multiple racists who say "let's kill black people."
That difference is even further extended when the first man renounces that pastor, and the second man gladly welcomes the endorsements of those multiple racists.
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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Yuck! It's like when Farrakhan endorsed Obama. It looks slimy.
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regroce
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Truthitswhatsfordinner:
Of course, Obama rejected that endorsement.
When did Paul reject this one from KKK Grand Wizard David Duke?
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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regroce:
"When did Paul reject this one from KKK Grand Wizard David Duke?"
He didn't. And he won't. Just like Paul was totally mute when his minions wrote their hate filled diatribes on the newsletter with Paul's name on it.
You people who buy Paul's garbage... are dumber than a bag of hammers.
- 4 months ago
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JustZ
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regroce:
Absolutely Obama did the right thing in that case. I don't follow Paul or know if he did or not. I was trying to make the point that these types of individuals put the politicians in these uncomfortable politicians. It reminds me of when MIchael Moore started Satan Worshipers for Dole, sent the Dole campaign a check, and the campaign cashed it!
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Radical_Centrist
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I find this "FAR" more troubling than an endorsement from a washed up political has-been! http://youtu.be/OaIzrZg5cV8
- 4 months ago
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Radical_Centrist
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Freedom is a VERY popular idea and Dr. Paul has no control; over how you use yours. Whether you are a racist, drug user, prostitute, etc as long as you do not harm others Dr. Paul FULLY supports your right to do you! The fact that MANY racists support him no more makes him a racist than the fact that MANY prostitutes & drug users supporting him makes him a hooker or pot head..
The Powers that be would LOVE for us to have to choose between one of the Goldman Sachs Twins Obama or Romney, so they will pull EVERY dirty trick in the book between now an convention time to see to it that this is the case.
- 4 months ago
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist:
Then why doesn't he refute or distance himself from those endorsements?
One rather common political tactic, made well known by Michael Moore back in '96, is to make your opponent look bad by sending him donations from a made-up questionable group. (He did "Satanists for Dole") - All candidates publicly refuse those endorsements/contributions.
But Paul isn't. In fact, he does nothing but repeat their same taglines, too (ie., the civil rights act was bad, slaves shouldn't have been freed in the civil war...)
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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regroce:
Dr. Paul disagrees with the same parts of the Civil Rights bill that I disagree with. I mean if the Federal Gov has the authority to “FORCE” me to sell you something then what stops them from being able to “FORCE” you to buy something from me?
The point that Dr. Paul try’s to make on Slavery is simply this, Slavery ended in every other Country in the Western World WITHOUT a War. This would have most assuredly been the case here as well.
Lincoln’s war of aggression against the South had very little to do with Slavery and EVERYTHING to do with FORCING a Central Federal Government down our throats. Lincoln said time and again the war was about preserving the Union “NOT” freeing Slaves!
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Radical_Centrist:
But the Civil Rights bill does *NOT* force you or anyone or any business to sell anyone or anything. In fact, the Civil Rights *created* an out for businesses - ever see the ones that say "private institution" or "private club"? The only businesses that had to make such accommodations were ones that had contract w/ the government.
And you say the civil war had nothing to do w/ slavery?
Which state first seceded from the union? South Carolina.
In its declaration of secession, what was the one point that state made explaining its decision? It found its rights to slavery were not being protected, that other states were entering without slavery, and that other states were not returning its escaped slaves.
Slavery, then, was the sole basis for its secession. And secession was the sole basis for civil war. Ergo....thus...1+1=2....slavery was the cause of the civil war.
and if you find that the US would have eventually ended slavery, how can we make that assumption when states were seceding and attacking the US military over that one single reason? (And don't forget - it was the confederacy that first attacked, also here in South Carolina.)
Quit making all the misdirectional arguments; it's not changing the facts that Ron Paul is racist scum.
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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regroce:
No need to continue this discussion because your last paragraph tells me your mind is made up. I was unaware that Woolworths and "all" of the other Mom & Pop eateries in the South had Contracts with the Federal Government.
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist:
And if you think he's so much *for* freedom, then why does his platform openly include *restrictions* on freedom? His own issues page openly says it will take away women's rights and take away labor rights to representation: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/
And don't forget that he's consistently authored bills to take away other rights - (anti-EPA regulations on property, anti-abortion, etc.)
And not only has he authored bills that only serve wealth and business, but he lies to the public when he describes them. He claimed one bill was to allow senior citizens to avoid income taxes on social security income; read the whole bill, though, and it wanted to eliminate all taxes on all unearned income (stocks/interest/dividends). He wrote another bill that he claimed would block illegal aliens from collecting social security; not only does no illegal alien get that to begin with, but when you read the full bill in depth, it wanted to allow companies to hire illegal aliens with no penalty. He wrote another that said it was to protect social security; read it all, and you see it wanted to send the billions we have in Social Security bonds to Wall Street.
Something else, too - he's never said he'd legalize dope. Everytime he's asked about it, he falls back on that "states' rights" mantra. He alludes to it as an example, hoping to score votes from folks who don't ordinarily vote, but he'd never do it.
Your consistent defense of him means you fall into one of three categories:
You're a young voter paying taxes for the first time who never really looked into the guy very much and don't know enough to realize he's one of the guys who voted to lower wealth tax and increase everybody else's back in the '80s
You're a racist, or
You're a "Toke up for Ron Paul" discipleIf you're one of the last two, I don't have anything else to say to you. You don't amount to squat, and won't have any play in this election, either.
If you're in the first group, though - you've got a lot to learn.
- 4 months ago
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Radical_Centrist:
and *your* last reply tells me you're too uninformed to know anything about "Mom & Pop eateries in the South" - especially since there are still some in my southern state that do exactly what I said: post their "private institution" signs, and then serve who they want.
Your sobbing mention of Woolworth's - one primary chapter in the history of racism in the United States - tells me that you're a racist, too, and likely affiliate with racial organizations. (That's the one of the first examples the CCC gives to its sheeple, after all.)
I have two words for you - and I'll refrain from using them.
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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Radical_Centrist:
"The fact that MANY racists support him no more makes him a racist than the fact that MANY prostitutes & drug users supporting him makes him a hooker or pot head"....
Then by your logic, if you're caught throwing gasoline on a flame, you'll claim it wasnt' you who started the fire. The fact is; even if that's so... you certainly kept the fire going until more gasoline arrived.
While you're at it, go look up Centrist... because you're not one.
- 4 months ago
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Radical_Centrist:
So... is your definition of radical centrist = rationalizing hate?
Here's one you should be able to answer:
If you have/had a daughter... would you let her marry a black man? I'm guessing no. - 4 months ago
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JustZ
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regroce:
You should have used those two words. The guy is out to lunch.
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regroce:
Absolutely great post, and absolutely correct.
One must always remember, that when a libertarian start saying things like "personal liberty" it is a code word absolute unbridled-and unregulated untaxed-greed, the legal right to fuck over any and all other human beings for their own self-interest, if that is not classic sociopathic thinking, I don't know what is, and it all goes back to a single primary source, their mentally disturbed patriarch Ayn Rand.
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VFORVENDETTA:
Yep. They use words like "freedom" and "liberty" to elicit an emotional response from listeners, but they fail to embrace the equally important concept of social responsibility. Ayn Rand fostered that behavior with her "selfishness is virtuous" philosophy. Libertarians then attempt to justify their ideology by rewriting history to fit their worldview.
(Example) http://current.com/community/93622653_ron-pauls-false-founding-narrative.htm
- 4 months ago
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JustZ:
My Daughter just turned 15 , so I am hoping a wedding is a long way off. That being said she is free to marry whom she pleases. Now if I get my way she will marry a fine young Scotsman and if he happens to be Black it works for me! Whit's fur ye'll no go by ye! http://youtu.be/mkaV_5wSsKE
- 4 months ago
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Radical_Centrist
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WOW that should help
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trut
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Rumpelstiltskin used to be a good guy. Now he's a bad guy and a good guy.
Once Upon a Time .....classic. - 4 months ago
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gypsysailor
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Say goodnight Ron. Goodnight.
- 4 months ago
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typical Paul supporter
- 4 months ago
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unimatrix0:
well, that and screwing your brother.
- 4 months ago
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JustZ
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So if I'm a lesbian and i like Ron Paul that makes Ron Paul a lesbian? Oh wait that would be retarded nice try though...
- 4 months ago
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BCDel89
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BCDel89:
No, if you are really hot lesbian Ron Paul may want to do you, or even his son. Then you might could say Ron Paul is a closet lesbian. But, if you were a really hot looking Tranny and Ron hooked up with you and in the heat of passion you wound up head to head as it were, would that make him a Koch Succor?
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gypsysailor
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BCDel89:
then why doesn't he refute those endorsements or distance himself from them?
Add in all the other blatantly racist stuff the guy's got on his record for about 30 years, and I can't believe anyone with any concept of civility could support the freak.
- 4 months ago
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regroce
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BCDel89:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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JustZ
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BCDel89:
If your a lesbian and a supporter of Ron Paul, you should be drummed out of gaydom.
- 4 months ago
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While a lot has been made of GOP presidential candidate, Ron Paul’s racist newsletters and connections to racist groups and leaders, it seems as if the media has been ignoring his conspiracy theories.
A video from 1998, put out by the John Birch Society, the group that created the “New World Order” conspiracy theory features Ron Paul warning of a United Nations conspiracy to take away the guns and property of Americans.
website and link to NWO video:
http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-new-world-order-conspirac...
- 4 months ago
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This is Ron Paul posing with the owners of Stormfront.
http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/plugins/simple-sopa-blackout/blackout.php
- 4 months ago
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Milieu:
Should we post every picture every politician ever had with anyone? I've had pictures taken with people I do not like and with people i disagree with. It does NOT mean guilt by association.
Did you know Hitler was a vegetarian.Therefore, vegetarianism is wrong... Right?
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Buddha2112:
"I've had pictures taken with people I do not like and with people i disagree with. It does NOT mean guilt by association."
You do favors for people you don't like? Maybe that's your problem.
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JustZ
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Lol. The other guys name is Mr Black.
This isn't really that surprising. The KKK and some of the extreme nazi's push for anarchy, while moderate groups (if you can call it moderate... less extreme maybe) push for limited government... Limited government is one step closer, and it allows people to do as they wish in their state, if so decided by the state.
This message appeals to a very large crowd... and sadly, to this one too.
Is it dangerous? You bet. Is it bad? No way. Just make sure you do your best to fight these fuckers every step of the way.
Again though, as JohnA points out, you can't pick who endorses you. As far as I'm concerned... This is a whole lot of fuss over a very small, insignificant crowd.
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Buddha2112:
why do you continue to make excuses for and minimize Ron Paul's obvious affiliation with racists and white supremacists?
- 4 months ago
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unimatrix0