Sorry to get a couple of commentators panty's in a bunch, but some Floridians actually like being called CRACKERS!
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- kennymotown
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I hate to break it to those who seem to be offended, but you guys are definitely in the wrong here. I live in Florida and I have for quite a while. The first time I ever heard someone refer to themselves as a "Florida Cracker" I winced. I still cringe at it, but those who call themselves "Crackers" do as a point of pride. There are many Business that use the term in their company name ie.. Florida Cracker Plumbing, Florida Cracker Air Boat Rides or Florida Cracker Trail Association or even The Florida Cracker Cattle Association. I can't make this stuff up... Google it. Not only is freehit right, but Cracker Country is actually the name of a local museum. Florida Crackers refer to the counties that are best known for Cattle Ranching as "The Cracker Counties". Anyhow, check out this link it will hopefully clear things up for you a little:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker
My friend bourneverde summed it up pretty well!
So when someone is uneducated about the word Cracker, and fain s their fake outrage, maybe they can read up on it the wikipedia page on the subject!
One commentator even called me "A fucking Hypocrite" his exact words, I let it go! But getting flagged for calling him a Cracker, kind of made me think you know maybe it's just best if I use the episode as a teaching event! So if your still out there and Cracker is so offensive to both of you maybe Saltine is the word I should have used! :)
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bailey78
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I'm a whole Wheat Cracker
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bailey78
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Ambill94
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Learned a little something here...thanks for the post Kenny...never saw the word used in this context before...
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Ambill94
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OlBlue
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Cool picture. Interesting topic.
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OlBlue
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circlesquared
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living in Fl myself I am surrounded by cracker this and cracker that...it's a sense of pride here relevant to history without negative connotation at all...seems now to be interchangeable with redneck, and many are proud of that too
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circlesquared
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jimstoner
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This is a group from Texas that celebrates the Austin contribution to music. However, if an African American were to use the term "honky" when talking about a white American it would mean something else entirely.
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jimstoner
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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OK, get out and look into this topic since the start of the Florida Campaign. Republican, Democrates, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox commentators HAVE ALL USED the terms, "cracker" "cracker country" and "cracker counties" in the last few weeks. The idea that a small group of people are blowing up over this ONE sound bite is an obvious grab for attention to spread thier rhetorical beliefs. I welcome the assistance of everyone involved in this discussion to please review your videos of the discussions about the GOP race in Florida and link and time stamp EVERYONE you see using this term... Just flood these fools with the true evidence.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA
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I'm pretty sure that's not what this guy meant by the word.
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA:
This guy most likely did not mean it in the Floridian way, but when the discussion is about a particular region in Florida then you are reaching to pull this sort of connotation into it.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
You keep spinning like that and you are going to give yourself a headache.
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JohnA
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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JohnA:
Sorry John. I understand your frustration. It is a double standard.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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bailey78
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JohnA:
Yep that is hate in it's purest form.
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bailey78
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fiberbundle
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um·brage ( m br j). n. 1. Offense; resentment: took umbrage at their rudeness. 2. a. Something that affords shade. b. Shadow or shade.
I take umbrage, sir. But you shall never know whether I mean "offense" or "shading myself" from the sun.
You must guess both my meaning and intent. You must commit to a rigid viewpoint and let loose a barrage of profanity and vulgarity on any who dare oppose you. (Don't hate the player, hate the game , I don't make the rules).
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fiberbundle
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HarukoHaruhara
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It's the same false outrage over the word, "Teabagger." I had plenty of right-wingers report me for using the term "Teabagger." They finally gave up after it got them nowhere. The Teabaggers gave themselves that name, then tried to claim they didn't when it was pointed out what it used to mean.
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HarukoHaruhara
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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HarukoHaruhara:
"what it used to mean" oh no no no, thats what it STILL means! Even in the political context!
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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HarukoHaruhara
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This is a cracker where I come from:
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HarukoHaruhara
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joeredford [removed]
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HarukoHaruhara:
Love the Christmas ones from England. We put one on each dinner plate on Christmas Eve.
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joeredford [removed]
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wolfess
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joeredford:
I am eating one right now :-)! They are soooo good ...
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wolfess
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unimatrix0
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It's always funny to hear or read some dumb ass trying to insinuate or argue that the terms "cracker" and "n****r" are morally equivalent.
One who offers such protest is almost invariably one who has racist tendencies.
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unimatrix0
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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There are TWO distinct sources for the term "cracker", one as clearly stated above would be from the sound of the whips of cattlemen in central Florida. In this instance it is neither a derrogatory or insulting term, and some take much pride in being a member of a nearly dead tradition.
The second comes from the french speaking history of New Orleans. Cracker is a bastardized coliquialism (sp?) for the word "craquois" which is a brass spitoon on the floor near foot level. Because the wealthy slave owners in that place at that time almost all chewed tobacco and therefor used spitoons it was a commonplace thing for the slaves to derogatorily refer to the wealthy whites as craquois...pretty on the outside, nasty and grimy on the inside and to be looked down at. As the language in the area shifted from french/english/spanish into it's own native dialect known as cajun craquois became cracker.
The history of language and words is still part of our history and should be respected and understood.
-edit The Florida Cracker's were mostly of Spanish and other LATIN european heritage, which brings up the horrible misnomer "latino" in our modern world...
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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rerushg
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Newt. Moon. Cheese. Crackers...... you've set me up for a killer one-liner, kenny, but I just can't put it together....
Good post. We've clearly entered the season of "much a-bunch about nothing". Nine months until Obama 2 is born.
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rerushg
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OlBlue
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rerushg:
I tried to resist my feeble attempt but couldn't. Sorry, I too am on hold.
Newt is sending us to live on the moon because he heard it was made of cheese but everyone must bring their own crackers. - 4 months ago
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OlBlue
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kennymotown
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rerushg:
Yes indeed!
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kennymotown
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cherry5000
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good post kenny, I did not know that word "cracker" is used so loosely among the people of florida. I apologize to everyone that I didn't mean to say the word p*****wood.
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cherry5000
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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cherry5000:
Peckerwood was originally used in a derogatory sense by once againafrican slaves in southern states to describe ignorant members of the poor white rural communities. It is a word created thru symbolism, the african slaves saw blackbirds(crows) as an anthropomorphized representation of themselves and the common redcrowned( or readheaded) woodpecker as a symbol for the working class white population (who were mostly Irish and Scottish imigrants hence the "redheaded" twist). As this term evolved it became more closely related to the mentality ignorant whites who saw themselves as inherantly superior to the blacks...
Now this word has taken on two other modern twists, both related to white inmates in our prisons.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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cherry5000
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
thanks for that information. I used to hear that word growing up, to me personally, it is offensive. I get angry when I hear black people call each other the "N" word.
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cherry5000
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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cherry5000:
I agree with your possition on the use of that word, sadly it's only because of the negative conotations now associated with a word that once only indicated skin color. Much like the F word this one has taken on a new life in the last century.
The F word has over 20 suspected origins, ranging from germanic languages, to indo-european dialects, and even perhaps one of our very first anacronyms (Fornication Under Consent of the King, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge) although we now know this word was in use long before you had to have the King's Consent to fornicate in Old England.
Personally my favorite theory is transfer of the futharik (ancient norse) word fokka (parent to many terms in modern dutch, norwegian and swedish) which meant "to push, to thrust, or to strike" into Ireland during the days of Viking raids and colonization. Here it is suspected to have become closer to the word we use now in written and spoken form with a definition of "plough, the pushing of dirt"... and young men were believed to have said "I am going to f*** in the fields" as a euphemistic term for meeting with a young lady on the sly, much akin to the modern british "Bird watching" and "Walking the dog"... you can look into those two yourself lol
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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cmc101
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good job
kennymotown - 4 months ago
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cmc101
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kennymotown
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I wonder if they make a Crow Crackers?
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kennymotown
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Anonmaly
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Shut up Cracker.....
(always thought you were in well, Mowtown... I just use the word as a substitute, now what might I be substituting...../?)
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Anonmaly
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kennymotown
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Anonmaly:
I like crackers, and my favorite is Graham Crackers! :)
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kennymotown
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kennymotown
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Anonmaly:
I like crackers, especially Graham crackers! :)
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kennymotown
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kennymotown
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This post:
http://current.com/community/93643235_msnbc-analyist-north-florida-is-cracker-co...Was the Post that got the ball rolling and the subsequent flagging ball a rolling!
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kennymotown
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JohnA
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kennymotown:
Thanks for the advertisement. And you're still a hypocrite if you are going to try to tell me Martin meant that as anything but derogatory to white people.
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA:
Why the heck are to so stuck on this WHITE MAN BEING RACIST AGAINST WHITES? You make absolutely no sense.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
I don't like racism no matter who says it. Attorney General Eric Holder said Americans were cowards for not talking about race. I am not a coward.
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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JohnA:
See that statement I so agree with, and I am no coward either especially when it comes to racism and seeking equal treatment for all people. I just really think your wrong on this particular topic.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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freehit
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Probably thinks a "cow poke" refers to sex with cattle too.
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freehit
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kennymotown
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freehit:
Damn, your on a roll!
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kennymotown
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JohnA
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Since neither one of us are cowards, we can agree to not agree, on this issue.
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JohnA