Comedy | February 05, 2012 | 21 comments

Ron Paul, What Exactly Is An “Honest Rape?”

source: http://www.care2.com/causes/ron-paul-what-exactly-is-an-honest-rap.html

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Just in case there was any question, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) is no friend to women. The latest evidence came during an interview on CNN where he told Piers Morgan that only in cases of “honest rape” would he consider abortion acceptable, and even then in he would just advise the woman to go to the emergency room for “a shot of estrogen.”

“Honest rape”. So, where do we begin?

I guess I would start by asking Paul to follow-up on just what exactly constitutes an “honest” rape. What kind of evidence would we need to show a lack of consent? Does a woman need to have signs she resisted? How much resistance counts before a rape goes from being “fraudulent” to being “honest”? Can spousal rape ever be “honest”? What about other forms of familial rape? What exactly is the bright line here?

Assuming we get some clarity from Paul on the parameters of “honest” rape, I’ve got a few logistical questions also. I’m assuming part of the investigation into whether or not a rape was “honest” would include an exam to collect evidence to support or negate the claim– a rape kit. We will need to have this evidence processed and processed QUICKLY in order to make sure we get that shot of estrogen in time. In order for that to happen, I’m assuming Paul is going to make sure that local law enforcement is fully funded and staffed to process those rape kits. How will this expansion of law enforcement be funded? And what about those women who don’t live in close proximity to a hospital or clinic? Do we have law enforcement come to them with doctors?

About that shot of estrogen. What exactly is this shot of estrogen supposed to do? Paul is purportedly an ob/gyn, so he must know a shot of estrogen won’t do a thing to prevent fertilization and implantation. So what’s that shot for?

I’m not sure what is the most dangerous aspect to come from Paul’s statements here: that is platform is built on a criminal disdain of women or as a doctor he doesn’t know his ear from his elbow.

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21 comments // Ron Paul, What Exactly Is An “Honest Rape?”

  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  

    • The more these Republicans, Conservatives and Libertarians speak, the easier it is to see just how intellectually challenged they really are. For you Republicans, Conservatives and Libertarians, that means how dumb they really are.

    • 4 months ago
  • Anonmaly
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      Anonmaly  

    • Not just my last comment.... But I knew of a community that went 3 years looking for a serial-rapist that NEVER existed...

      Some girl claimed some guy kept coming through her bedroom window and raping here... Every guy in town got harassed for walking around any neighbourhood in a 5 mile radius for the whole time the community was fearing this fictitious rapist...

      I was a teenager at the time with no car, so I walked everywhere, even had an undercover pull a gun on me and rough me up using that bullshit as an excuse....

      Come to find out later... She made it up for ATTENTION!!! Nobody ever raped her. She admitted it.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • Anonmaly:

      So what are you saying. All rape claims are a lie. That would imply you don't think a woman can be raped. You know of a case were the woman lied, so they all lie. Says a lot about your mentality. What kind of an idiot would use terminology like "an honest rape". Are you saying he meant to say proven rape but was to damn stupid to know how to say it.

    • 4 months ago
  • Anonmaly
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      Anonmaly  

    • OMFG.....

      If I had a dollar for every time I found out later that some chick said it was "Rape" just to avoid social stigma, I mean personally owned up to the fact, she lied, to save face...........

      God-damn where you been?

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • Anonmaly:

      Some chick? Not to misogynistic are we? For you Republicans, Conservatives and Libertarians out there, a misogynist is someone who hates and mistreats women. If I had a dollar for every time some lowlife actually raped someone I'd have a hell of a lot more of those imaginary dollars than you. Sounds to me like you have been accused of it in the past.

    • 4 months ago
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  

    • Really, no source for the full interview? Just a hit piece and opinion? Typical of CNN, to pick and choose words after baiting questions. Ah well. It'd be nice if you could post a REAL source, and maybe we could understand what Paul really means here.

    • 4 months ago
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  

    • Where's the full interview? You guys are savvy at taking everything out of context.

      I believe he's merely talking about verifying very simply if someone is lying about rape before charging it to somewhere (ie, taxpayers). That doesn't mean don't provide care, it just means properly billing this so that some people don't take advantage of the system as a means of contraception (even though condoms are free). There are many dishonest 'rapes' that happen and it's pointless to fund it.

    • 4 months ago
  • The_Wanderer_Kansas
  • The_Wanderer_Kansas
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      The_Wanderer_Kansas  

    • I watched this the other night, his wording was wrong but his point was valid, "real rape" should have been used to differentiate between actual rape and "claimed rape". I hate this as much as anyone, but we must admit some women will claim rape when it was not for many varying reasons. Your outrage is warrented based on sound bite style reporting on this one phrase, but never forget context.

    • 4 months ago
  • Leen61
  • KB723
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      KB723  

    • Excellent Post unimatrix0, I was going to post this yesterday but was trying to stay out of the RP loop, here's the video... =)

    • 4 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  
    • KB723:

      KB, thanks for providing the video. I did not see this until now. This is about as cloudy of a take as a politician could possibly have on the issue of abortion. He hides his true stance beneath so many layers of conjecture it's almost indecipherable. The bottom line is it doesn't change the fact that he is anti-abortion.

    • 4 months ago
  • KB723
  • The_Wanderer_Kansas
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      The_Wanderer_Kansas  
    • Leen61:

      He is sketchy as hell, and hard to pin down on anything because he's spent his life speaking politicese. But he did mess up with his phrasing of "honest" admitedly, but the context is getting overlooked. You who know me know I do not support this man as far a training bra could catapult him... but we can't expect fair hearing if we don't provide it for those we don't support. I am all for fair hearing, and fair trial, and fair conviction... --wink wink nudge nudge--

    • 4 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  
    • The_Wanderer_Kansas:

      Yep. he is one slick pol when it comes to double-speak. That's why he's so good at raising money from so many different disparate groups. No trustworthiness whatsoever in a very dangerous way. We let him convict himself with his own words, The_Wanderer. :)

    • 4 months ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • KB723:

      I understand your desire to stay out of the RP loop. The Paultards are some of the nastiest, meanest bullies on the Internet. That is why I constantly give them a hard time. I can't stand the ignorant bullies, and the way they swarm to attack anyone who challenges their dear leader.

    • 4 months ago
  • KB723
  • HarukoHaruhara
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • Nice post, again I must remind the community Mr. Paul reminds of that whacky Uncle that shows up on Thanksgiving spouting the same crazy shit every year! Thank Goodness it's only on Thanksgiving we have to put up with him.

    • 4 months ago
  • ZiggyStrange
  • unimatrix0
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