Ron Paul’s Devious Plan to Steal the Presidency
source: http://hillbuzz.org/ron-pauls-devious-plan-to-steal-the-presidency-63749
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Up until yesterday, I really hadn’t taken the Ron Paul campaign very seriously. Most non-Paul voters probably felt like I did, and laughed him off as that “kooky Uncle” who didn’t have a chance in hell to win the Republican nomination for President.
Well, I’ve changed my mind. Big time.
Yesterday I attended the Republican organizational convention for my Senate district here in Minnesota, and what I witnessed was an organized take-over of our nomination process by Ron Paul cultists. They came to this convention with the sole intent to take over as many of the delegate seats as they could, and sadly, they succeeded.
When I arrived at the convention and took my place with my fellow precinct delegates, I quickly noticed that something was awry. As soon as the man leading the convention(the Convention Chair) began to ask if there were any motions to bring to the floor, several Paulbots lept to their feet to make motions asking to “suspend” the rules so that people who were in attendance could add their names to the delegate nominations. Before the convention, delegates had been contacted to see if we were interested in running for the State Delegate positions, and we were given plenty of time to put our names in the hat to run for these positions.
The Paulbots, who did NOT submit their names prior to the convention, were now demanding that they should added to the list of nominees that very day. This is normally outside of the rules, but the Paulbots(there were at least 50 of them spread throughout the auditorium) through a suspension of the rules, demanded that they be added to the list of nominees. It was difficult to override their votes, as they had descended en masse to this event, and the unsuspecting non-Paul delegates were confused as to what was going on!
After some manipulative moves on the floor, and by using Roberts Rules of order AGAINST the Convention Chair, they were able to add all of their names to the delegate nominations.
I’ve never seen such unmitigated rudeness at a convention before. The Paulbots would leap to their feet screaming “Point of order!” every time they thought that the chair was being dismissive of them.
The entire process was chaotic and psychotic, and the non-Paul delegates were stunned. They didn’t understand what was happening, and I tried to explain to an elderly woman from my precinct that this entire coup was PLANNED, and that the Paulbots had every intention of flooding the State delegates with Paul supporters.
In an effort to combat this craziness, I threw my own name into the ring for State Delegate, using the same rules that the Paulbots had gotten “suspended”. The way I figured it, if I could get on the State delegate list, I would take away at least ONE Paulbot.
I don’t think our convention was an isolated incident. If you read this article from the The Daily Caller you’ll see that this is happening Nationwide.
Luap Nor has got a plan, folks. If the Republican nomination goes to a brokered convention, the Ron Paul cultists plan to flood the nominating floor with Paul delegates. This is their only way to win the Presidential nomination, and they are dead serious in their intent to steal the Presidency, whether you like it or not.
I even asked one of the Paul supporters( a neighbor of mine that I happen to like a lot) who he would vote for (as a delegate) if the nomination went to someone like Romney. He told me straight up that he would NOT vote for the nominee, no matter who it was. He also told me that if they(the Paulbots) didn’t win enough delegates to win, then Ron Paul would run as third party.
So the next time you hear Ron Paul tell the media that he has no intention of running third party, you need to be aware that he is lying.
This convention dragged on for 8 hours yesterday, because the Paulbots slowed down the procedure with motions, amendments and screams of “point of order!” They have every intention of voting as many Ron Paul supporters into delegate positions as they can, and I’m guessing that they are doing this across the country. These people are very well organized, and we should no longer ignore them as the crazy cultists they appear to be, because the fact is, they mean business.
Luap Nor will do anything to win the Presidency, even if it means strong-arming conventions to do so. He’s not some “kooky Uncle” that I once joked about.
In my opinion, he’s dangerous.
Have you witnessed this kind of behavior at your convention?
What do you think we can do to combat these strong arm tactics?
But I guess it’s okay to steal delegates, eh, Ron?
Here’s the video from Denver. Very similar to my experience yesterday in Minnesota.
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RonPaulKicksAss
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It's not the Ron Paul supporters problem that not enough people showed up for the other candidates. Write an article about the people supporting your candidate. Where are they? They obviously don't care enough. By the way, we are fighting wars for the Project for the New American Century and the Foreign Policy Initiative, the think-tank which promotes: diplomatic, economic, and military engagement IN THE WORLD! Iraq was ALL lies, so is Iran, and so is KONY! They are trying to sell you a war...are you buying it? VOTE FOR RON PAUL. Today is the money bomb, DONATE! ronpaul2012.com
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RonPaulKicksAss
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Crauly_Fingers
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RonPaulKicksAss:
Easy Ron,I posted it because I'm a supporter, A bit of sarcasm/reverse psychology.Jump on board here, Liberalism needs your support....welcome!
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Crauly_Fingers
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JohnA [removed]
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It's a revolution, it's not always going to be pretty. Going along with the rules made by our politicians means we will continue to get candidates that agree with them. It is time, way past time, for the people to be heard, and if this is what it takes, oh well. VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
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JohnA [removed]
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Joeydee44
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RP, the 4% GOP solution. Even if he were to pull it off, I don't know how manipulating Roberts Rules at a primary or convention translates into manipulating the electoral college in the presidential election.
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Joeydee44
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savroD
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RP says Social Security is unconstitutional.
Section 8 of the Constitution says "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
It says "general Welfare". How can one possibly argue Social Security is not providing for the general welfare of everyone. Lies or he's just NUTS, but probably both! - 1 year ago
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savroD
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Crauly_Fingers
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savroD:
Sav, did you slept through history class?
Pre-Socialism definition of welfare in 1787, means health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.
Welfare in today's context also means organized efforts on the part of public or private organizations to benefit the poor, or simply public assistance. This is not the meaning of the word as used in the Constitution.
The framers addressed the misinterpretation of the “general welfare clause. James Madison said, in a letter to James Robertson, “With respect to the two words ‘general welfare’, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.” James Madison also said, “If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” James Madison laid out what he saw as constitutional limits on federal power in Federalist Paper Number 45 where he explained, “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined . . . to be exercised principally on external objects, such as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce."Thomas Jefferson explained in a letter to Albert Gallatin, “Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated (in Article I Section 8).”
Being valid and informed is not the definition of "nuts"
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Crauly_Fingers
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Crauly_Fingers:
Jefferson also believed that the Supreme Court was not authorized to judge the Constitutionality of legislation, but Marshall did. Who now, is justified to decide who was right when, without judicial review from altering it down the road?
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Crauly_Fingers
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
The Constitution does not provide for judiciary review because it's a clear and specific, self explanatory outline for governance, so it was never intended to be interpreted.Judiciary review over legislation is a reversal of powers..this is very important to understand.The Constitution however does provide for amendments which is done through Congressional approval,legislation, and then would be cemented within the Constitution which was never done with Social Security.Marshall dropped the ball.
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Crauly_Fingers
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Matt_Schmidt
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savroD:
It is unconstitutional to force me to give the money I've earned to anyone else for any reason. If you want to save money for your older years, get a savings account .
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Matt_Schmidt
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Crauly_Fingers
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Matt_Schmidt:
Agreed, at least make it optional, choice is freedom,coercion is not.
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Crauly_Fingers
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remanns
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Well,.....if its a "take over",.....all I can say IS " . . . .and It couldn't happen to a nicer, sweeter, and more egalitarian and selfless bunch o' folks. "
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remanns
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MrMetalloidMan
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I'm going to give Paul the benefit of the doubt, and hope that it wasn't Paul himself who planned that.
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MrMetalloidMan
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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MrMetalloidMan:
ohhh, u silly wrabbit!
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Matt_Schmidt
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MrMetalloidMan:
He is helping plan it, but good for him. He hasn't been given a fair shake by the media. THe only things most people see about RP is from the media and the little bit they show are small moments meant to make him look look crazy. Too bad the people who support him are more invloved to let this neglection mean defeat. If Victorious you can thank these Ron Paul supporters later for putting the American people back in charge , saving the election and our country.
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Matt_Schmidt
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mrpuma2u
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I am worried about a lot of things, but Ron Paul stealing the Presidential Nomination is not one of them. I think this scenario grossly underestimates the power/influence of the rethuglican backroom power brokers.
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mrpuma2u
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nanac
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That is the only way that Ron Paul will ever become president, he will most certainly have to steal the presidency. His supporters are described as overly aggressive, and are known to use strong-arm tactics to accomplish their goals.
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nanac
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Paratus
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If he runs as a third party candidate he will hand the election to Obummer, my opinion. We hear this every cycle about some candidate, Nader, Brown etc. It isn't devious or new.
As for crazy cultists and dangerous people, we have the Kings followers and the King himself. Whatever danger Paul could possibly bring to the table pales in comparison to the danger of having King Barry for another term. - 1 year ago
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Paratus
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Paratus:
Oh, would that threaten you bot job?
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Matt_Schmidt
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Paratus:
Did you just copy this from Fox News or what?
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Matt_Schmidt
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Hotpckts
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Oh, it has been brought. Keep shouting "paulbots" as if that's some kind of insult lol
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DemGloriousBums:
It's dismissive and uncreative. But I guess that's enough for certain people with a very low capacity for intelligent debate
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Hotpckts:
Amusing pic. I'm missing the metaphor for Boehner handing off the spark of life to Obama, though. Or, does Fox believe that Obama rises or falls based on Boehner's actions?
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
It's an old pic, but I'm sure they are just pointing fingers at each other.
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Hotpckts
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DemGloriousBums:
Looks like you just proved my point. lol
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unimatrix0
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Hey, that is just like Hitler's SA in the 1930's. I knew Paul was a fan and admirer of Hitler, so it should come as no surprise that he and his followers would try to emulate Hitler's rise to power.
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unimatrix0
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s_peak
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unimatrix0:
Nice try... Except that hitler didn't oppose the patriot act. Hitler's version of the patriot act was called the Enabling Act... Ron Paul is not at all like hitler, imo... but every one of our presidents just wants money and power... It's unfortunate that every election seems to come down to a "lesser of two evils" scenario... and even worse that the voting process has been been exposed as a fraud since Bush 2 was elected...
If you ask me, all this arguing is pointless. All of this shit just gives us the illusion of choice, anyway... the added benefit of this illusion is that it keeps us all fighting amongst ourselves while we are robbed blind.
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s_peak
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OpenlyGaytor [removed]
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Ron Paul? Yuck. I tried to eat him but he tatsted like old shoe leather. Yuck.
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gypsysailor
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He will be the Ralph nadar of the Gop.
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gypsysailor
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Leen61
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Ron Paul may THINK he has some f**ked up plan, but his crazy laugh always gives it away!
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Leen61
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wolfess
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I don't know -- Ronnie P has run for president too many times for me not to take this seriously. I think he decided after he dropped out the last time that he was going to make a plan and stick to it this time; and the fact that he just keeps on plodding ... no sane person takes him seriously and yet he's still out there, and THAT makes me think he has a plan.
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wolfess
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wolfess:
He may have a plan but it probably is as insane as his platform.
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CIutchCargo
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wolfess
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CIutchCargo:
I hope so -- I don't think I can take much more of this current 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' playing out every day in America :-)!
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wolfess
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freehit
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wolfess:
Are you thinking of the story of the tortose and the hare?
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freehit
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faye59
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Unless he has perfected a way to make zombies out of us all or some miracle drug to control our minds, Pappy Paul will be back on the plantation come June.LOL
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faye59
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faye59:
The government has obvioulsly already made a zombie out of you.
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TopGear [removed]
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He hasn't a snowballs chance in hell. Let the cultists make asses of themselves.
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TopGear [removed]
