It's Sunday.......Time to beat the Religion out of the Myth Believers.

Well said!

thanks Kenny - great post - good fun - you know I love this stuff!

I look forward to next Sunday.

you know uni...not every discussion on here is about winning or losing....and I am sorry you think you are being personally attacked merely because someone disagrees with you....I think calling people ignorant, gullible, naive and childish qualifies more as a personal attack....and not everyone is hurt by the truth...not sure why you would want to pass that off as a valid point. Some people actually embrace truth....but then truth is one of those tricky words.....

Cool, I'm sure there will be some Religion story this week!

Amen!

That used to be done quite a bit in the day!

been done ....

Well thank you for reading and helping out in the thread. Apparently we get several of these story's every week, so I'll be busy again next sunday I think! :)

I think this is one of the more viable discussions we have had on Current Kenny, and I think there is a lot to discuss.

When people try to claim that the problem is that all religion is bad, and therefore all religious people are deluded, I am bothered, not because I feel threatened, but because this is the very same thinking that led the aristocracy to despise the peasants, considering them too ignorant to vote or own land, and it is the same thinking that led to denying women the vote, thinking them too childish and stupid to participate in public governance, and, it is the same thinking that allowed us to enslave people of color, because all people of color were considered to be a certain way....based upon what....perhaps someone of influence or education writing something about how all people of color were this, all women were that, and all peasants were something else. It is all, always, bigotry.

Crainiometry was one example of this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

You know I think you are right, we should meet here every Sunday! Thanks my friend for your comments on the thread, they do help the discussion and if I have helped someone open their mind just a little bit, I've done my job.... :)

the moment they interfere in politics , back a candidate anything ... they should PERMANENTLY loose tax exemption . they are political entities . Not people , like corporations .( heh)

Absolutely spot on, this new wave of Evangelicals is nothing but a front for the Religious right. Take their tax exempt status away immediately.

Couldn't agree more!

Too complicated! ALL churches should lose their exemptions!!!

Could we say this about Rev. Wright and Rev. Barber, see the post about Rev. William Barber speaking out against North Carolina Amendment One. Both are doing exactly what you say should result in the loss of C(3) status.

Well you are correct, but I have this new agenda much like the religious right's agenda. As long as there are good people believing in the invisible man thats fine. Just as long as they keep it to themselves, but when they spout this kind of crap from the pulpit I will continue to attack them. The good people that believe really need to rain in their nuts by themselves whenever they are in church and someone like this fool spouts off. I haven't heard much of that from any of the true believers lately, they need to get busy and flush the turds in their church down the toilet. Thanks my friend for commenting, I think you know where I was coming from. :)

the problem with getting the people in the churches where this is happening to stop this crap coming from the pulpit is that "some" people actually believe it, and I agree with you again, the nuts do need to be reigned in. I think posting these videos is one way to put some pressure on their activities. When the KKK came to my town, people came out and stood up to them, when the despicable Westboro church came to my town, people came out and stood up to them, the religious and the non-religious, shoulder to shoulder, and I am all in favor of that.

Me too, well said and thanks for teaching me that I mis-spelled yet another word. "Reigned" I'll have to remember that. :)

the value of your input always trumps your spelling!

Well thank you, the great Mac god did give me spell check but I only use it on words that I think I don't know how to spell. Apparently I don't know a few more. :)

Thanks, and I did check her post out....:)

Wherever that field is, they sure do harvest a bunch of them! :)

I wholeheartedly agree.

We once had legalized slavery too; that doesn't make it right.
Keep your theocracy out of our Democracy!

Bravo!

Blah...blah...blah... blah.

Now if the religious would leave it at that, then we wouldn't have the religious nuts we have today and the ones throughout history! Please tell them to act like Jesus, so we can move along!

I'm sorry, did you say something??

I think Jesus would have shut down this church or at least kicked this pastor to the curb!

Naaaaaaw! Jesus is much better used a cudgel to browbeat people into submission.

Wow, somebody must have really hurt you at some point in your life. I'm not sure how you have come to the conclusion that anyone claiming to be a believer is not appalled at child abuse, nor is it clear how you manage to equivocate believers with endorsing child abuse.....the only thing I can figure is that someone with religious affiliations really hurt you at some point in your life. I am very sorry for that, but at least it is clear now who your anger is really directed at.

Did you even read the story you are commenting on? The story (Beat the Gay out of your Son) is about child abuse.

As for anger, I am not angry. You are the one lashing out in anger, making personal attacks.

Again, I wish you luck with your metaphysical confusion.

yes dear, I read stories before I comment on them.

not sure what part of my comments to you were either angry, lashing out or making personal attacks....merely disagree with your point of view, and your methodology for attempting to posit opinion as anything other than opinion.

metaphysical confusion....really.....disagreeing with uni is metaphysical confusion....and I am making personal attacks?

It's just not that simple. The question that organized religion is nuts has to be self evident to anyone with a thinking brain. The question of god is a waste of breath; however, the question of if man invented the god others want us to believe in is scientific with an obvious demonstrable answer!

Voted way up. I think you just nailed it with...'anyone with a thinking brain'. Religion requires stupidity, squared.

I don't get it.
Does it make us feel somehow superior to bash the billions of people who believe in God?
This is stereotyping at it's worst!
I hope we don't have to endure this bullshit every Sunday.
It just feeds into the conservative stereotype that all liberals are godless.
This is not helping anything at all.

It's to the point of being offensive. To align all those who have faith with people who do these things is also the height of ignorance and intolerance. And these are the same people who always speak of a "new consciousness" coming. But that consciousness also includes tolerance and understanding which seems in short supply here of late.

Who cares what conservatives think. They are irrelevent old white men who are dying off. And, you can take that stereotype to the bank!

It's the religious, god believers, and agnostics in the middle who make it safe for the crazy extremists!

Yet. we all have to 'endure' undying respect for religion, in all its forms.... every day of the year! Organized religion isn't only delusional, it's continues to harm the human race like nothing else in history - it SHOULD be ridiculed; endlessly.

Nonsense. Religion deserves no tolerance.

Well said!

She forgets a lot of religions history I presume! Bad enough the religious nuts we have today denying global warming you would think she would figure that out at least!

You misread my comment. To suggest that ALL people of faith are the same based on showing videos like this that show those who go way beyond the pale of what Christianity truly is, is ignorant and intolerant. That was my comment.

Who is "she?" I am well aware of the RW religious extremist Elmer Gantry types. My comment was more in line with those who continue to castigate an entire group of people and faith in general (which doesn't always mean the person sits in a church) based on a fringe who uses religion and Christ for their own ends. As many times as I have commented here about my faith and how I came to where I am now, you should know that.

I know that Jan, and you should know what this weekly thread is all about. I am not condemning all though's that believe, but trying to wake up those that believe to the fact many of the things Jesus stood for or pontificated about are constantly being trounced upon by nuts like this guy. I would think you would want to get these types out of politics as well cause many of the religious right flavor are screwing it up for the rest of us. Peace :)

"It's Sunday.......Time to beat the Religion out of the Myth Believers."

I think many who love Christ feel that way. Perhaps a more appropriate title explaining that intention might clear up some misunderstandings. That looks pretty generalized to me.

The incident was about beating the Gay out of your kid,
I think it was an appropriate title for the action of this Pastor!

If it spreads intolerance it will reap what it has sowed ... OK so intolerance should not be tolerated ... ?

More importantly who keeps the rabble at bay with such mystic delusions? Religion is the only thing stopping the rest of us from killing the 1%!

Now thats funny! Lol...

You're absolutely correct, and for that someone voted your comment down before I could vote it up......

It's a double standard, always has been always will be.

Ah but they go to the same church.... I think it's the; "Deny the Assemblance of Reality".

It's funny, I share the same distain for fundamentalist faiths as any atheist or new ager.
Perhaps because I was not abused by religion as a child I can see the obvious difference between good faith and bad faith.
I'm glad I've remained open-minded enough to base my judgments on the scientific method which doesn't rule anything out until thoroughly disproven.
So far science hasn't disproven that God exists nor is that the goal of science.
Just ask Einstein. ;)

GREAT POINT!

Good Chance! Lol.

I agree, it belongs here!

and I think this belongs here:

"In logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually an improper argumentation in reasoning often resulting in a misconception or presumption. Literally, a fallacy is "an error in reasoning that renders an argument logically invalid." By accident or design, fallacies may exploit emotional triggers in the listener or participant (appeal to emotion), or take advantage of social relationships between people (e.g. argument from authority). Fallacious arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure any logical argument.

Though an argument is not "logically valid," it is not necessarily the case that the conclusion is incorrect. It simply means that the conclusion cannot logically be arrived at using that argument."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Awesome post unimatrix0. Thanks for the glimmer of sanity.

True, but it is getting worse!

Clearly, something has poisoned you....so sorry.

Your silly personal attack says nothing about me, but says a great deal about you. And of course, such an attack only proves my original point.

Clearly you are uncomfortable when your religious superstition is questioned. I only hope you find the courage and wisdom to escape your metaphysical confusion.

maybe not....but your vehement hatred for all things religious, and your illogical attacks on any and all belief systems speak volumes about you.....

I am not uncomfortable, confused or threatened, but I am feeling very sad for you.

Don't waste your breath. You rock their entire world when you criticize their delusions.

Vehement hatred is absolutely required when discussing religion with superstitious bipeds.

really....you really believe that and then want someone, anyone, to take one thing you have to say seriously?

Sounds "par for the course", yes I agree! Always the same with these people "me thinks they protest too much!"

Sounds about right!

I just have to say that the steeple on that chapel is most unusually phallic...