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I could give him the benefit of the doubt if he had later said, "you know, I was wrong..."
But, he never did.
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HarukoHaruhara:
mishie posting false images, color me amazed! mishie lying!?! say it isn't so!!!
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I have a book called " what is your poison " this book has all the propaganda about alcohol and cigarettes from the 40s,50s and 60s and the message was how to improve your health by consuming this garbage.
The End
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Ok folks, lets be fair. Cigarettes used to be "in" very, very "in". My primary care doctor is a pulmonary specialist and he has old cigarette ads on the walls in his exam room that literally say "Doctors prefer Camels". Guy has a sense of humor. It's just the way things were back then. Reagan pushing cigarettes during the time frame reflected on the poster wasn't unusual. Lots of other things we can focus on without going after a dead president who used to do what everyone else did back then.
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I can see how Ronald Reagan is insulting. When he said the words "government is the problem" he meant it for a specific situation which was 30 years ago.
Today, right-wing America haters still use those words as if they are for ubiquity. They use them to whip up hate for federal workers including military veterans, teachers, post office workers and more. It is convenient for them that the federal government hires many people with disabilities, people who are minoriities, and young men and women who grow up in disadvantaged situations - in ophanages and so forth. They can target them and claim innocence.
Last year federal employees donated 5.7 million pounds of food for those who needed it while the right-wing defends the wealthy that don't want to pay their fair share of taxes. I ask who is the problem today?
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Gravity_Man:
When the government let's them mine every last natural wonder it's doing a great job the companies say, but raise the tax by one cent for digging up our environment and flogging off our resources and the government are a mob of c_nts!
I'm confused. The corporate f'wits are sending mixed signals. If you don't pay the prostitute, wouldn't that amount to rape. I never solicited my arse to begin with thank you very much directors and CEOs. The flora and fauna don't appear to have "Please F@(k Me" signs around their necks that I can see either.
I tried to read BATTLEFIELD EARTH though but couldn't. The Day The Earth Stood Still was alright. What does concern me is the legislation they introduced in the 1980's to shoot anyone with radiation sickness in case of nuclear war to stop the hospitals being overwhelmed. Nice people we have in governments around the world these days.
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Mishima [removed]
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Well, well, well.
I suppose all of this provides some kind of catharsis for people who feel helpless and angry.
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Gravity_Man:
I voted you up on every one of your posts.
- 9 months ago
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Mishima:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yhYrMb6pJQw
"Well, Well, Well" ... Hey I love that song too. And it is oddly appropriate to the thread here. "We sat and talked of Revolution ..." Yea man! That's the stuff!
This is funny; but you know, I would NEVER have taken you for a John Lennon fan. Really. But it just goes to show you, that you can't judge a book by its avatar! Music reaches across all boundaries. Assumptions bases on stereo types are always dangerous.
Welcome to the Revolution Mishima! I'll see you on the barricades ...
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Gordon_Shumway:
It had nothing to do with John Lennon who should have changed the spelling of his last name to Lenin, of course. He was a Marxist, an opportunist, a perfidious craven coward who betrayed the very hand that fed him.
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Mishima:
Rats! I thought we'd found a point of agreement. But I don't care whether you think John was a Marxist. Heck, I'm a long time "Marxist-Lennonist" myself!
HA! I saw that! You smiled, didn't you? Just admit it ... Have a nice day ...
And remember, "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - RIGHT ON !!!"
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Gordon_Shumway:
It gave me a smile
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Mishima:
And now we are all supposed to jump into the fray because the troll insulted one more liberal institution, John Lennon. (A few days ago it was Hendrix). He keeps looking for the pull-string.
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SIBob:
He keeps looking for the pull-string.
Always, it's the troll way! All the tiny little creature has is it's engorged sack of right-wing bile to spew endlessly.
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SIBob:
Maybe Paul is his favourite Beatle.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Paul was my favorite Beatle! But really they all were. This classic from Revolver is surely one of my all time favorite songs!
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MSII:
Bile it is.
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Gordon_Shumway:
An irony.
The Beatles did all kinds of drugs and promoted drug use ... and the only Beatle to die from drugs was George, who died a fairly young man still of lung and throat cancer due to his lifelong smoking. :(
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Mishima:
"...an opportunist, a perfidious craven coward who betrayed the very hand that fed him."
Spoken like a true plantation Boss.
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Mishima:
HA! You forgot to call him a dirty Hippie.
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jackhole:
Of course I meant John Lennon ---just in case twittering twitts misunderstand.
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Gordon_Shumway:
Paul is my fave Beatle, too, Gordon. :) We can't let trolls ruin that.
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Gordon_Shumway:
Yes, that Marx and his brothers were great. I still watch them occasionally.
But I will not listen to Lennon, of course. He was a hypocrite, a degenerate, a drug-pusher and a Communist.
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jackhole:
He was not a "dirty hippie"; he was a PRETEND hippie.
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Leen61:
Indeed we can not Leen61. There's been a lifetime of joy there.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Yes, so true. And the youngest Beatle at that. And he knew it and spoke out against tobacco during his illness. My parents were both smokers and both died of smoking related illnesses. Only good thing to come of that is I never wanted to smoke and NEVER have. Not once.
Something NOT to be missed is what great exemplars the tobacco companies are for the Darwinian model of modern, unregulated capitalism. If it can be marketed, sold, and profited from, well then, by all means do it.
The documentary Current has aired about tobacco companies marketing to children in Indonesia is right on point. I've been to Indonesia a couple of times, and they're telling it just like it is.
But you can easily find yourself seated next to the executives of Big Tobacco should you attend many an upscale church or synagogue. They are sedulous in thanking the Lord for the many blessings he has bestowed upon them through the agency of tobacco profits. They give to all the right charities (and of course all the right politicians). Model citizens to a fault.
Well, there I go again ...
"I'm so tired, I'm feeling so upset
Although I'm so tired, I'll have another cigarette
and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, - He was such a stupid get."
- John Lennon / Paul McCartney - 9 months ago
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Mishima:
"Judge not, the ye be not judged." - Jesus, Matthew 7:01
I'm just sayin' ...
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Gordon_Shumway:
Left-wingers try to invoke Jesus. It is an abomination to see them doing that. A travesty, an outrage.
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HarukoHaruhara:
I wouldn't say the Beatles alone promoted drug use, HH. It was the 60's and all the bands around at that time were doing them. Also at that time, some bands saw them as mind expanding drugs.
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Mishima:
Yes of course you people can't abide any god but your own. Your god is the true abomination, well that and the right-wing-corporate-FASCIST-party + crony fellow-travelers.
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Gordon_Shumway:
I'm so sorry, that's terrible.
Yeah, George blamed cigarettes for his illness shortly before his death.
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Gordon_Shumway:
Actually, that is kind of the whole point of this post...
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Leen61:
... kind of like all these famous people were promoting cigarettes in the 50s! ☺
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Mishima:
"Left-wingers try to invoke Jesus. It is an abomination to see them doing that. A travesty, an outrage."
It's funny because regardless of whether or not you view Gordon_Shumway's use of a biblical quote or attempt at invoking Jesus, as an abomination or not, that doesn't make the quote less applicable, but it does show an enormous irony that you are making a judgement about a "Left-wingers" proper use of a biblical quote about being judgmental.
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Mishima:
Oh, my ... I'm laughing and crying at the same time. I forgot that Republicans think they OWN Jesus now. If you don't mind my asking, how much did you have to pay for him? I imagine he was not cheap!
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Gordon_Shumway:
they couldn't afford him http://youtu.be/Rn2yDOykshg
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HarukoHaruhara:
Yeah, kind of like that, HH, until they found out that could only go so far and sadly some people died not knowing when to quit.....like Jim Morrison.
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Leen61:
The Beatles promoted drug use. What do you think "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was about?
They celebrated drugs and this encouraged many young people to take drugs.
Lennon was a hypocrite, someone who turned against the system after he squeezed all that he could from it. Too bad America was so generous: Comrade Lennon should have been thrown out of our country when he was in the United States, advocating drug use, anti-capitalism, sexual degeneracy and revolution.
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Varex_Sythe:
The Left tries to associate itself with Jesus Christ. It is inane.
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Mishima:
I usually don't waste my time on something like you, but I have the facts. "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was about a picture Lennon's son Julian drew of a classmate he had, a girl. He drew her and told his dad "that's Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds." Have a nice day and do some actual research for change.
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Gordon_Shumway:
Truth!
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Leen61:
it's what Faux Noise told him was "the truth"....
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Mishima:
There is no attempt from the Left to associate itself with Jesus, at least there is no more of an attempt to associate itself with Jesus than there is from the Right.
However, from this specific line of responses in this conversation, there has been no attempt to self associate with Jesus from the Left. There has been a quote from the Bible which was used to point out a cute little irony, but that is not an attempt to associate one's self with Jesus any more than quoting Mark Twain is an attempt to associate one's self with white, cigar smoking American authors of the 19th, and early 20th, century.
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Leen61:
Actually, Lennon wrote one of the most powerful anti-drug songs ever.
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MSII:
Probably.
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HarukoHaruhara:
That's correct, HH. He wrote that while he was kicking his heroine habit for good.
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Leen61:
Not true, of course.
Let's look at what the biographer of Comrade-Hater-Hypocrite-Degenerate Lennon wrote, shall we?
{About John's claims on the song's origins, Lennon biographer Philip Norman sarcastically notes: "It is a plausible enough explanation if one accepts that John never took acid or encouraged its use, that he was completely word blind, and that he took an ongoing and responsive interest in Julian's schoolwork." All of these points could not be farther from the truth: Lennon dropped acid many times and talked his friends into it, read voraciously and was always obsessed with wordplay and puns ("incredibly high," "head in the clouds," etc.) and was often barely present as a father to Julian while the youngster was growing up. So Norman's point is precisely that Lennon's explanation is not entirely persuasive, and that the song was indeed probably drug-inspired, at least in part. Lennon also claimed that he had no intention of spelling out "LSD" with the title, but that is a little hard to believe considering how smart and witty he was.}
Note in that first sentence the word SARCASTICALLY.
It is quite obvious.
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Varex_Sythe:
"There is no attempt from the Left to associate itself with Jesus"
There is, of course. Why do you write something like that? The Left-wingers are incessantly asserting that Jesus was a socialist or even a commie.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Lennon was a drug-pusher. Let's look at part of what I already posted, something written by this degenerate's biographer:
"{Lennon dropped acid many times and talked his friends into it, read voraciously and was always obsessed with wordplay and puns ("incredibly high," "head in the clouds," etc.) and was often barely present as a father to Julian while the youngster was growing up. So Norman's point is precisely that Lennon's explanation is not entirely persuasive, and that the song was indeed probably drug-inspired}
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I remember those Christmass cartons!!! God I'm old.
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gump:
But you are still looking down at flowers Thats a plus :)
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gump:
These guys were shameless!
http://gogd.tjs-labs.com/pictures/camel-whc-12-01-1952-999-M5.jpg
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hay where is the ronny raygun fan? soooo quiet......
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hombre76:
The creature has risen from it's crypt just like those old B-movie vampire flicks, no matter how it's killed, always comes back in the next sequel. Can't keep a good troll down!
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MSII:
I don't know if the troll is a he or she? Maybe a she/he. (LOL)
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cw9000:
Transvestite? She-male? We all have heard how one of it's heroes j.edgar was about the women's clothes... I don't know, just sayin...
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MSII:
Please avoid using phrases like "she-male." They're very offensive to trans* people.
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JessMag:
Thats nice of you Jess. See what I would say is a violation of Current guidelines, An obvious attack on another poster here and instead of doing something about you join in and make a joke about it.
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You "claim" rabidly to be "anti-censorship" (except when it's the enemy right?) and preach hate at every turn, proudly so, such hypocrisy even from a right-winger it's epic, congratulations Faux Noise would be proud! Bet nobody flags like you! Do they hand out a special badge for that? Flag me some more
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It takes a real degenerate to spend the last four or five years of his life crapping and pissing his own pants because of the brain damage likely caused by decades of using a toxic, addictive substance ... which he also promoted to others.
That is the ultimate definition of a "degenerate."
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HarukoHaruhara:
It really is .
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HarukoHaruhara:
Poetic justice if you ask me.
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HarukoHaruhara:
a song just because. http://youtu.be/DFMQJfK28ZQ
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AntiTobaccoAntiDefamation:
LOL!
You flagged something?
Good luck with that :) - 9 months ago
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could give him the benefit of the doubt if he had later said, "you know, I was wrong..."
By that time the Alzheimer's had taken so much of his brain he forgot he was wrong. - 9 months ago
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wolfess:
The sad part is that even when his brain was supposed to be functioning it was no better.
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wolfess:
Doubt it ever occurred to such a creature, "wrong"? Nah "I got mine, FUCK them!" (the right-wingers holy mantra)
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SIBob:
You are so right ... I've seen some of his movies -- his intelligence ranks right up there with Duh-bya's.
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wolfess:
I remember he had to have the 3 x 5 index cards in front of him at all times, lest he come up with something totally spontaneous.
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And don't forget: he was also a UNION (lord help us all) PREZ, and a wife/child-abandoner. And never was more than a B-list actor. Also called his new wife "Mommy."
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Hardytoo:
Well said!
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MSII:
I forgot to add: sin of all sins - he was first a Dem. Puff puff- Ahhh ...now I need a relaxing (pretend) smoke.
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Hardytoo:
Yes along with everything else a turn-coat he was! Treacherous from the get-go!
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Hardytoo:
You’re absolutely right.
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And with friends who send you SMOKES for Christmas, who needs health care?
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Gordon_Shumway:
The perfect President! A soothing actor with great interpersonal skills, and no scruples at all. A perfect glove puppet. No wonder the Rightwing hired him to be the President.
But wait. This is a little like executing the messinger for delivering the message. Reagan was a half-bright tool. Fine to get down on him, but let's not forget the tool he was. He wasn't the enemy, he was a talented lickspittle. Ever see "Bedtime for Bonzo?" Or, "The Knute Rockne Story?" "Death Valley Days?" He was an actor, hired for the role of President, but others pulled the strings. The Kochs of their day, it was. Same as today. Bush was the failsafe, as was Cheney for Duh-byuh, as will be Ryan for Romney. Except Ryan's a whacko. The others were evil. This new guy isn't just evil, he's unhinged.
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"Death Valley Days!" NEVER missed it as a kid. Reagan was a heck of a pitchman I guess. You know, I still use 20 Mule Team Borax to this day and I STILL think of Reagan and "Death Valley Days" whenever I buy a box.
Hey look! Do you think that's a Chesterfield in the Gipper's right hand? Gotta keep the image that a REAL MAN is always holdin' a smoke in the ladies' minds.
But to your point, I think there is something in what you say. Reagan was in many ways the amiable "pitch man" for the 80's Republican Right; more so than the actual leader of it. Some argue that he was, in some ways, a moderating influence on the extremists who had him elected. HA! Well if true, we couldn't have that! (I'm personally agnostic on the issue.)
But you DO have all those nettlesome "coincidences" around the *Hinkley - Bush* family relationship and the assassination attempt on Reagan. When has an attempted Presidential assassin EVER been found NOT guilty (by reason of insanity); and then gotten unsupervised releases for family visits?
Now, compare that to Charles Manson disciple Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme or Patty Hearst wannabe, Sarah Jane Moore. These were two pretty sad cases of obviously troubled (perhaps crazy) young ladies being manipulated into assassination attempts.
Fromme attempted to point a gun in Gerald Ford's direction; but never actually fired. GUILTY! Life in prison. No parole. No family visits for Fromme. No mercy. No hope.
Sarah Jane Moore did fire at President Ford, but missed badly. Same deal as Fromme.
Yes, the Hinkley deal was pretty unique. If we didn't know for a fact that John Hinkley, Jr. shot Reagan to impress Jodie Foster, the whole affair could bring some pretty dark ideas into one's head.
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Gordon_Shumway:
It's part of the plan, if they can kill off as many people as possible their time on entitlements will be greatly shortened.
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corderodedios:
He wasn't that good of an actor.
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You have to wonder when a guy like Scooter Libby writes that the connections amongst the faithful are like the roots of the Aspen, intertwined underground and pulsing together to bloom in unison, to paraphrase. If you said something like that, you'd be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" nut.
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Well what do you expect from a complete traitor who stalled the release of the Iranian hostages till after the election to help him win? of course that deal was too lucrative to end and we had to keep that deal going so the Contras could keep arming their death squads. Then of course he illegally remained in office while becoming increasingly debilitated by his Alzheimer. Hope he dies a traitors death for at least his next 5 lives.
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hombre76:
Couldn't agree more strongly!
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hombre76:
I couldn't agree with you more.
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This is under comedy, but Reagan was one of the worst purveyors of evil this planet has known.
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Leen61:
Agree 100% his evil still taints this country and the world years after his passing (if there's any justice to HELL ETERNAL)!
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MSII:
The ways he wrecked this country are too numerous to count. I agree about your take on where he's taking up residence right now.
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Leen61:
What makes this comedic is that there are 'some' who still think this waste of space was the greatest piss, uh, prez we've ever had; hahahahahahahaha :-)!
Pwr 2 the intelligent Progressive peons!
GUILLOTINE the moronic reagan mccarthyist CORPOFASCISTS! - 9 months ago
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His topping of the "Greatest President" list the last few years is a joke alright, a very sick one. But the right wing is great at revisionist history, that's for sure. And there are a lot of dense people.
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wolfess:
it's part of their religious mania in their holy-saint-reagan-the-mad!
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Leen61:
You hit the nail on the head Sis -- the dense need to believe in an idol that is as dense as they are :-); and that dovetails perfectly with what MSII said -- they'd rather worship someone insane than face the fact that no one in the cheap labor conservative party is of normal intelligence!
Pwr 2 the intelligent Progressive peons!
GUILLOTINE the moronic reagan mccarthyist CORPOFASCISTS! - 9 months ago
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wolfess
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Leen61
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wolfess:
That's correct, Sis!
Pwr 2 the intelligent Progressive peons!
GUILLOTINE the moronic reagan mccarthyist CORPOFASCISTS - 9 months ago
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Leen61
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Leen61:
And they wanted to put him on Mount Rushmore. (If they ever do something like that it had better be on some private preserve, like where Cheney shot the guy in the face, because that target will certainly be irresistible. What a place to "occupy".)
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Leen61:
One of the greatest pieces of right-wing revisionism is calling Hitler's fascism socialism. (They figure that because the word is in the description, "national socialists", that it must be true.) That way the radical Republicans get to distance themselves from it, (when in fact they are close as can be).
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SIBob
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Leen61:
He was popular, not great. That was what made Ronnie Raygun so dangerous, he could talk that nasty agenda and make it sound like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It was in his administration that Rove and Rumsfeld got their start.
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SIBob:
Well said! They are the very masters of propaganda deceit!
- 9 months ago
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SIBob:
I'm so totally with you on this one, Bob!
- 9 months ago
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Leen61
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SIBob:
That's correct, Bob. The Republicans deal in fascism but they always say it's the Left. Many of their "ideas" resemble Hitler's.
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Leen61