Global Warming or Global Governance?
source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3069943905833454241
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If you were to ask ten people on the street if mankind was causing global warming, at least eight out of ten would say yes. After all, Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth provides incontrovertible evidence that this is the case. Yet, contrary to what is heard in the media, there is overwhelming evidence that the warming we are experiencing is natural, with maybe a small amount contributed by man’s activities. Nor is there any scientific consensus. The debate is still raging within the scientific community. Sovereignty International has put together interviews of climate scientists and biologists from numerous sources who explain, step by step, why Al Gore and the global warming alarmists are incorrect. In some cases, blatantly so. It also provides evidence that the global warming agenda is being funded with tens of billions of dollars as a mechanism to create global governance. Hear from congressmen, experts and even well-known news broadcasters how global governance puts global institutions that are not accountable to the American people in control of every aspect of our economy. The U.S. government is very close to making this a reality. Very close. Every American, every citizen of the world, needs to hear the other side of the global warming story.
http://www.globalwarmingglobalgovernance.com
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larrysnotes
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You know ENRON came up with cap and trade to TAX the rich and give to the poor in the form of greenpower. ENRON was to build the green projects for the poor. ENRON would have made big on this in the 90s. But its all gone now. Or is it ? ENRON wind is now G.E. wind, Im sure you know that G.E. makes futuregen turbines for coalplants. So now you know who foots the bill on cap and trade and who gets the money. Was ENRON now its G.E.
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larrysnotes
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BoyGenius68
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NEWS FLASH... The earth has been warming and cooling since the birth of the planet as we know it. Man made? I will leave you all with this, lets agree on taking care or this beautiful planet that we all live on... lets constantly strive to create new innovative ways to harness the energy sources without releasing minimal to zero pollutants into the oceans, streams and the air... but lets also make a reasonable transition to that point without crippling our economy & taxing us to death. We need to transition at a sensible rate. Doe's that make sense to you all?
Let's be civil and debate the issue from the right, the center and the left. Lets unite and show the world that we can live together ,respect and learn from each others opinions and (Educated) analysis's.
Stop being lazy and for Gods sake listen, read & watch many perspectives on the issues at hand before forming your own hypothesis.
Put aside your ideology & seek the REAL TRUTH. You may have to inconvenience yourself to find it, but it will be as close to the truth as possible. I myself prefer to listen to the climatologists and geologists not Al Gore's conveniently selected panel's. The truth will set you free my friend.
P.S, Always follow the money trail! You may just be surprised what you will find...
"BG68"
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BoyGenius68
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MinneapolisMafia
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BoyGenius68:
Well I hope "Janforgore" reads that one..... well said.
"follow the money" - 2 years ago
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MinneapolisMafia
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larrysnotes
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BoyGenius68:
If they look at the G.E. books they will find it.
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larrysnotes
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Scrump
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Okay guys, Your SUV's are Responsible for the Ice Caps on Mars Melting.. don't pay attention to the sun..
I don't Care How many Billions George Soros spends on lies and Junk Science, for you guys to gobble up.. The Truth Will Still Rise.
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We Are Change Chicago protests Al Gore
With the help from We Are Change Ohio, We Are Change Chicago protests Al Gore in front of the Chicago Theater and ABC7 Studios on April 1st, 2009.
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Cacaoatl
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Scrump:
So? So they don't like Al Gore. SO WHAT? Global warming science isn't based on Al Gore's opinion it is based on nearly 70 years of research.
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Cacaoatl
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larrysnotes
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Scrump:
It changed all on its own 12 times in 15,000 years.
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Stradius
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Scrump... I'm glad you tagged this with the "Bullshit" category because I think it sums up the "facts" you're spewing.
Here to all: If you don't "believe" that the Earth is changing don't worry about it.... just ignore it. Have babies, watch them grow up, work at the factory (if you can find a job), grow old, (hope you can retire).
Why are you wasting all your passion and energy fighting against activities that are in the best long-term interest of your children? Why not instead spend less time in front of Fox News and more time outside playing in the park with your kids.
If I decide to participate in recycling my cans and plastic is that going to tip the scale of your lifecycle for the worst?
Cheers.
Stradius - 2 years ago
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larrysnotes
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Nice and fun ! Fight the war !
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Cacaoatl
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Scrump:
They can sue all they like but it doesn't mean anything. He would have to prove that Al Gore and 96% of climatologists are knowingly passing along false information, that Al Gore and 96% of climatologists made some sort of financial gain by passing on false information, and that they were somehow defamed or damaged by Al Gore and 96% of climatologists.. The problem is that Al Gore did not invent the theory of global warming, in fact, it is older than he is. It's older than anyone on this thread:
http://www.globalwarmingarchive.com/viewer.aspx?img=33333491&search=Fourier
http://www.globalwarmingarchive.com/viewer.aspx?img=19705748&search=Callenda...
http://www.globalwarmingarchive.com/viewer.aspx?img=39834257&search=Earth
http://www.globalwarmingarchive.com/viewer.aspx?img=14062557&search=greenhou... - 2 years ago
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Cacaoatl
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JanforGore
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BS. Targeting Al Gore alone is proof of what this is.
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JanforGore
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larrysnotes
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JanforGore:
Go cry in a corner.
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MinneapolisMafia
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people are starting to wake up to the lies.
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MinneapolisMafia
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BoyGenius68
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It's refreshing to see that opposing views can actually be posted on Current. Maybe there is hope for open dialogue rooted in truth & reason without total censorship of ideas.
Thank You.
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BoyGenius68:
Even better !
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larrysnotes
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"Let's see 96% of climatologists (scientists who actually study climate) believe that the current form of global warming is caused by human action. Who should I believe actual scientists who actually study the climate or conspiracy theorist kooks and chemists? Chemists don't study climate, a chemist's opinion on climate is about as valid as electrical engineer's opinion on evolutionary biology."
what he's trying to say is you sound like a dope on a rope son.
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i don't know, he might, but he'd probably just avoid all doctors as we know they're all part of the NWO.
the BASTARDS!
that and flouride, gotta watch out for flouride.
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jh64487
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Cacaoatl
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Rocket scientists don't study climate. They study rockets. Climatologists study climate. Would you go to a dermatologist if you were worried about a heart condition? Would you hire a plumber to fix your electrical problems?
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Cacaoatl
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larrysnotes
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Cacaoatl:
Nice !
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Top Rocket Scientist: No Evidence CO2 Causes Global Warming
http://www.infowars.com/top-rocket-scientist-no-evidence-co2-causes-global-warmi...&
UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
http://www.infowars.com/un-blowback-more-than-650-international-scientists-disse... - 2 years ago
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Let's see 96% of climatologists (scientists who actually study climate) believe that the current form of global warming is caused by human action. Who should I believe actual scientists who actually study the climate or conspiracy theorist kooks and chemists? Chemists don't study climate, a chemist's opinion on climate is about as valid as electrical engineer's opinion on evolutionary biology.
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Cacaoatl
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NASA Astronaut Harrison Schmitt on Alex Jones Tv: Man-Made Global Warming Hoax!
(July 31, 2009)Alex welcomes to the show former NASA astronaut Harrison Schmitt, the first and only civilian to walk on the Moon. Schmitt served as a Republican to the United States Senate representing New Mexico and was the ranking Republican member of the Science, Technology, and Space Subcommittee. Schmitt is an outspoken critic of the man-made global warming theory.
pt 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee3oLSonbA4
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Stradius
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Scrump:
Why do some people feel that crazy fanatical talk-show hosts should be the source of their facts?
I think I'd welcome debate but the facts in data recorded all over the world say: Something is changing the world.
This scientist sounds like a quack to me. He spent 5 minutes mocking the hockey stick "formula"? WTF?
There's no formula, the shape of the graph is the shape of the data. Temperatures rise, CO2 levels rise. It's recorded in the ice at the core of Antarctica.
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Stradius
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Bloody awful quality.
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Stradius
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It's really not about global warming... it's going to be about global extremes. Watch the pendulum between summer and winter get wilder and wilder.
In any case... the argument should not be about who is right and wrong about climate change. The question is: Should we start being responsible to the long-term of our species and planet and our future generations or should we be irresponsible and destroy the future?
We DO have an impact on our environment (good or bad). On the 3 days when all air traffic was grounded after the 9/11 attack our national average temperature spiked 3 degrees higher than normal and when all the planes started leaving their contrails across our local skies it dropped back down to averages again... real data speaks real truth.
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Stradius:
ok, stradius, that may be, but correlation does not always equal causation... and there is far more data to suggest that the climate is warming check out the youtube channel greenman3610 for some data on global warming. Now, i must also say that Al Gore does exaggerate a lot in his movie and what he says should be taken with a grain of salt.... he is not a scientist, he is a politician, and noble though his intentions may be... he does distort the truth...
also i wanna point out to the poster of this video: you said scientists and biologists talk on camera...
firstly, biologists ARE scientists
secondly, biology is NOT climatology... and so a biologist's opinion on climate change is about as worthless as a physicist's opinion on evolution - 2 years ago
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Stradius
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Stradius:
...correlation does not always equal causation...
Not sure what you mean here. I'll say it again -- clear proof that Humans affect the climate.
After 9/11 the government grounded ALL air traffic over the United States of America. During that 3 day period ALL average temperatures across the country rose 3 degrees. After the air traffic was allowed to fly the average temperature across the entire country went down 3 degrees.
Here's a reference: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/contrail.html
The earth is AT THIS MOMENT under the effects of Global Dimming (our pollution in the atmosphere is shading us from the sun). Proof of this Climate Change is in the average temperatures over our country during the no-fly period. The USA would be 3 degrees hotter already if we didn't have jet contrails shading the sky.
In fact, the Global Dimming discovery says sadly that things are actually WORSE than we know.
Bottom line: We're living in a fishbowl and we're either going to have to become responsible about taking care of our own fish-tank or we're going to die in it.
Also, regarding Al Gore's show. I found it interesting and entertaining but it wasn't the best one to watch. Check out Leonardo DiCaprio's movie "11th Hour". It puts everything down into real-world terms you can sink your teeth into. AND, it's not just about gloom-and-doom, it talks about a few changes to our society that will make the changes we need to get this thing under OUR control instead of wondering who's responsible.
Cheers.
Stradius - 2 years ago
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ProjectBat
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This is current. Al Gore helped found this network. Your view has no shot, no matter how legitimate it might be.
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ProjectBat:
ProjectBat is correct. Most Current.com users have already drank the Kool aid, so you'll never get anything across to them.
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ProjectBat:
I'll listen to what you have to say. But, mack, you gotta show me the facts from better sources than Fox News.
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larrysnotes
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ProjectBat:
Read more watch less.
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i love the tags in this. infowars, al gore is a liar, bullshit.
i believe 35,000 scientists over george soros and al gore any day.
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World’s Largest Science Group Rejecting Man-made Climate Fears
An outpouring of skeptical scientists who are members of the American Chemical Society (ACS) are revolting against the group’s editor-in-chief — with some demanding he be removed — after an editorial appeared claiming “the science of anthropogenic climate change is becoming increasingly well established.”
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Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the principal gas that trees and other plants need to survive, just like oxygen (O2) is the principal gas that humans and other animals require. Trees absorb CO2 and release O2 -- animals inhale O2 and exhale CO2. See how nice this all works! Earth's first, primitive forests made their prolific debut 300 million years ago during the Carboniferous Period. Before then, the atmosphere held far more CO2 but concentrations declined throughout the Carboniferous Period as plants flourished. During the Carboniferous Period the atmosphere became greatly depleted of CO2 (declining from about 2500 ppm to 350 ppm) so that by the end of the Carboniferous the CO2-impoverished atmosphere was less favorable to plant life and plant growth slowed dramatically.
Today, CO2 concentrations are barely at 380 ppm -- still CO2-impoverished. Many scientists strongly believe that we should be trying to produce more CO2, not less. And for good reason.
"Carbon is the building block for all life on earth. It provides all of the food and most the energy for the human race. Carbon dioxide is a tiny part of the atmosphere, yet it sustains all life on earth. It is NOT a pollutant. To be anti-carbon is to be anti-life and anti-human". - Viv Forbes, Pasture Manager, Soil Scientist and Geologist
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The Great Global Warming Swindle (1hr:15m)
"An absolutely phenomenal documentary." Glenn Beck, Syndicated talk show host
Everything you've ever been told about Global Warming is probably untrue. From Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth to news reports from the popular media outlets and even public classrooms which, in chicken little fashion, are screaming - the sky is falling. But is it really?
This documentary, which contraditcs these claims and has been described by some as the most explosive film of the year and the definitive answer to Al Gore features interviews from some of the Worlds leading scientists, climatologists and former environmentalist like: * Dr. John Christy, Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama * Dr. Philip Stott, Emeritus Professor of Biogeography, University of London * Dr. Paul Reiter, IPCC & Pasteur Instititue, Paris * Dr. Roy Spencer, Principle Research Scientist University of Alabama * Dr. Patrick Michaels, Department of Environmental Science, University of Virginia * Dr. Syun-lchi Akasofu, Director, International Arctic Research Center * Dr. Fredrick Singer, First Director, U.S. National Weather Satellite Service * Dr. Richard Lindzen, IPCC & Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) * Dr. Tim Ball, Former Professor of Climatology, University of Winnepeg * Dr. Niz Shaviv, Professor of Physics, Hebrew University of Jerusalem * Dr. Ian Clark, Professor Department of Earth Sciences, Univertisy of Ottawa * Dr. Patrick Moore, co-founder of Green Peace * Dr. Paul Driessen, author of Eco-Imperalism: Green Power Black Death
The Great Global Warming Swindle blows the whistle on what may be the biggest swindle in modern history. Proponets of man made global warming warn that climate change is the greatest threat ever to mankind, and, if we do not change our ways and reduce CO2 emissions - polar ice caps will melt, coastal areas will flood and hurricane like Katrina will become common.
With nearly Gestapo like tactics we are commanded not to question the edicts of the ICCP (oops, sorry, the IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change). There is absolutely no room for doubt because there is a "scientific consensus." Anyone who questions the data or conclusion is an enemy of the state and humanity.
Well, this is exactly what this well documented film does! Our challenge - watch this film and make up your own mind.
"The Great Global Warming Swindle should be seen by everyone interested in the global enviroment, especially those who have seen the Al Gore movie." Professor William M. Gray, meterologist
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