Francis Coppola says Cinema is Collapsing? So What Are You Gonna Do About It?

You're not the only one.

It is fun when that happens.

You are right 24, the persistent and crazy do break through...'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind', 'I (heart) Huckabees', 'The Royal Tannebaums', etc. The movies are there you just have to ignore current public opinion most of the time and find what makes film relevant to YOU. Too many Americans seem to care more about what everyone else is seeing then what they actually want to see.

"...sitting on their armchairs, complaining about how these kids today are ruining the world they created. Whine whine bitch bitch moan moan. "

hehe good analogie, very true!

Is that list at the bottom what you consider to be good films? I’m not gonna comment on those because that’s highly subjective and we could go on and on…
I do get your point, though. There have been good films recently even among the shit, as always. He’s just whining ‘cause he realizad his last good film was forever ago…

Good point Kamilo and we see this same syndrome in other arts as well. Seems at a certain age people decide to blast away at everything that came after them. I'm planning on going the opposite direction!

Cloudy with a chance of meatballs has Mr. T in it.

Just so you're informed.

wow J, one black person? i see the change already happening! Praise Jesus!!

If you're going to count by race...get it right.

get it right? is he a leading actor in the film? is his name on the poster or commercials when they talk about the film?

Then there's the boss of Bruce Willis in Surrogates. He has a big part of that film. He's not Bruce Willis or his wife, but he's about fourth billing.

That makes two.

Then there is Eve in Whip It.

That's three.

I can keep going.

Fame has more minorities than the other films....but they are not well known. And they do make up the majority of the film.

I've seen every single film except that Paranormal crap. I would know where the minorities are.

Make sense in what you're talking about before you post next time JJ, now you're getting on my nerves with your BS comments. My original comment was about leading roles, you know what a leading role is, right? Cause if you do, everyone you mentioned does not have a leading role, they have a supporting role.

Get your facts straight before you comment, because it's becoming more and more apparent that you're just clueless!

By the way, the only one you got right is Fame...

I read what you posted.
I was just helping you out. No need for you to look greedy...wanting all the main parts just for greed reason, not because one got it on talent. Sounds like you want the now failed affirmative action to show up in movies.

How many white people are on telmondo? Japanese? Black? Jewish?
What about bet? How many white people? Japanese? Indian?

This idea that it is only fair is a farce. They want to crack the Hollywood market not for fairness but to make the big bucks. It has nothing to do with fairness.

I don't watch Heroes because they have Japanese characters. I watch it because I enjoy the show as a whole. I will never feel connected to someone because they are the same race as me. And every time I hear someone say that they need that validation in life I almost have to giggle at the thought.

If you have to be prejudice and only like characters that share your racial profile....that's pretty sad.

I have never done that and I will never do that.

My favorite character in the X-Men is Cyclops and he (if I must mention) is white. I am half Irish and he isn't even close to being that either. So only in racial terms would we be similar but not ethnically.

There are Japanese X-Men but I don't like them that much and it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with personality and morals.

My other favorite X-Character is Multiple Man and he's also white.

I write tons of stories and how do I handle race? I don't. I never mention the race of my characters because it's not important...EVER to the story. But recently I decided I would do that just to give the characters more of a real life feel because it'll be necessary for many reasons outside of the over used and never good (now) Affirmative Action.

'How many white people are on telmondo? Japanese? Black? Jewish?

What about bet? How many white people? Japanese? Indian?'

Hmmm...I suppose those outlets exist is because they weren't seeing themselves anywhere else. Down the road when whites get fewer and fewer roles I'm sure they'll be complaining that 'it's not fair!'.

And when they do I'll say something to that too.

Except that if white people created a station for just whites---well...that wouldn't go to well with people who jump on the racist bandwagon---cause they'd scream KKK.

It's not the same no matter how people pretend equality should exist. ha.

that's like saying women want equality. Don't see them fighting for women to get higher prison terms like men do for certain crimes like sleeping with a student. Nope. They let women get off easily (double meaning) because that's ok not to be equal there.

This idea that people want equality makes me laugh because they don't fight for it in everything, just the positives. They want more. Greed is what they have more of....not reasonableness.

I don't care for Affirmative action in Movies, what I care for is CREATIVITY in movies and MORE roles for people of DIFFERENT RACE.

How many more times is Hollywood going to do a remake of something great and classic that came from the Asian Market (Dragon Ball Z, Speed Racer, Street Fighter and many more) and put the Leading actors as white folks saving the world?

The topic of this forum is about Cinema collapsing, why in my view? because not everyone wants to see white folks saving something and everything... Put some flavor and spice in there and I promise you it will do great. Keep it the way it is and it will fail eventually.

Also, I watch smallville, Californication and Dexter, and guess what? the leading actors are white and I don't relate to them in any way shape or form (except for the guy in Californication).... but I do watch the shows because they are good and have something different.

Remember JJ, not everything has to be about equal rights, it has to do about change and right now, it's about time the white folks in Hollywood see that and put some different faces for us to see.

In those markets in Japan and India they use Japanese and Indian actors....how many white actors do they use? How much diversity and creativity do they have over there?

According to what I hear Japan has great movies (and I've seen a few) but all they use are Japanese actors. How does that fit your criteria of it being more creative to do so? Or how about Bollywood? Singing and dancing but only if your Indian.

What the hell does flavor and spice mean? It looks like it means any minority but white has flavor and spice....but that so not what you're trying to state...is it?

That's how it reads, though.

I relate to Clark and Chloe's relationship because it's similar between mine and my friends and I'm a mutt and she's Latino.

I don't think the failure of the movie industry rests on color. It rests on writers and producers giving us better stuff.

Ever seen a Tyler Perry movie? 95% of all people who see those movies are black. That's the kind of people his films attract but that's not what kind of ship he runs on his set. He has all kinds of people working for him and all kinds of people in the film that are not black.

But mainly only black people see his films.

I love most of them and laugh because Madea is so funny. I am not black...but I still find it funny and I still can relate.

And that is a perfect example of a mixed races being in a film but not attracting that kind of audience. Based on reputation only a certain race goes to it.

I find that sad and at the same time understandable.

I watch Japanese films and I enjoy them, but they all look the same. Few actually look different enough and this has more to do with the same hair cuts than it does with features.

I'm not against more races in films. I'm against thinking that's why it's a failing industry.

I really dislike when people feel scorn so they say, "I'm going tell my people to protest you." and turn it into a race thing...like the Hispanic community did during the election.

What the hell is that suppose to accomplish? Oh... segregation only when it means they have power.

Don't ask for togetherness when what is promoted is the exact opposite.

AGAIN JJ, you're all over the place and not focusing on the topic here. We are not in Japan, China or India. Who is talking about those countries?

Stop trying to comment just for the sake of it, make some sense in what you write. Half the time I ignore it because it doesn't relate to what I care for, but you're beginning to tickle my funny bone with the stuff that you comment on.

We are talking about Cinema in the US... not China or any other country. We are talking about here! and i'm talking about a FACT that's promoted every day on TV and on the Theaters. Where 95% of the Leading Actors are white and are always saving something. I don't care for Telemundo, Japan net or BET...

What I care for is a CHANGE in what's out there, so that cinema can stay alive. I go to see movies once or twice a week, just to get out and enjoy what's there. But half the time the theaters are empty, why? because it's the same ol' BULLSHIT! A white folk saving someone or a white folk saving the world or how about transformers? where a white kid is saving the UNIVERSE from destruction.... It's always the same...

And when I mean add some flavor and spice to the movies, I mean add some Latino and Black LEADING ACTORS to the movie... Let the Black or Latino save the day for once and you'll see ticket prices go up.

I know what you mean. White = boring.

Lame.

You know what else is lame? You ignoring great points because you can't counter them. This "focus" bs you made up is only stated because you got slammed.

You're stating that different races make for better creativity. Japan and India totally spit in the face of that logic.

More races does not = more creativity and it sure the hell does not = more spice.

I saw Under the Same Moon and unless spice is suppose to lull me to sleep....that had none.

It felt like propaganda for the border soul.

I watch movies and tv for the story not for who has what color skin. What you have not given me is a reason to think that race equates to better stories and creativity. What you have showed me is that people who are black and Latino only want to see black and Latino people.

JJ, you get slammed every day because of the pointless comments you make. You comment just for the sake of commenting, even though half the time NO ONE can or has agreed with you.

Don't you get the issue of the topic? The FACT that Cinema is dying for a reason? So i brought up a reason on why I, again, I thought it would change.

Does White = Boring? Some time, but all the time? nah..

Does JJ = clueless and fact less comments? YES!
all the time? nah, 80%? YES!

Why? cause you comment for the sake of commenting.

So, you want to know why more race equals better film? Lets see, no more Matt Damon in every other movie, no more Kevin Bacon in every other movie, no more George Clooney in every other movie. Get the picture?

Also, I don't care for India or Asia only wanting their race in movies because they are not known as the Land of the FREE and the place for the American DREAM. We are here JJ, not down there, stop trying to incorporate everything else just to make a point on something for the sake of winning an argument.

Or should I bring up the comment you mentioned the other day? on how WE " The Latinos of South America" speak spanish because we derived from the Spaniards????? I thought of 30 words to call you when you wrote that, i didn't, but I corrected your clueless comment and left it alone.

So, to end this little back and forth, do i, again, do I want to see more Latinos and Black in movies, yes! why? because it will add more to Cinema.

Does it have to relate to me? no, does it have to relate to my family or ancestors? no, but I would like to see someone other than Nicolas Cage or Bruce Willis in a movie saving the world from something. Why? not because they relate to me, but because it's getting BORING!!!!!!

Get your facts straight before you post next time.

You're fake.

Why? Because you don't stick to the topic. You have to make it personal. Not only personal but so personal that you're suggesting that you are right and anyone disagreeing with you is wrong.

FAKE because you pretend to be about equality and all this other BS and you can't even reasonably disagree with someone without dredging up all kinds of things.

First people tell me I don't know everything.

Then when they find out I don't know everything they go HAHA you don't know everything.

I never claimed, like you do, to know everything. Yes I don't know about Mexico. Do you know everything about Cinema? Apparently not since you made a very stupid comment about who is in every other film.

I'm fake? ok... do I know it all? no, do I claim to know it all? no. Do I know Cinema the way you claim to know it? no, Am I about equality, yes!

So lets stick to do this from now on, no more connecting. I'm moving on and I'm not going to call you names because I do have some respect for you JJ. But going forward, every single time you post some unfounded, clueless, lame, nonfactual comment, I'm going to call you on it and keep a score on it just for future reference. Why? just to show you that commenting for the sake of commenting, is just boring and other words I can think of, but i'll leave that one alone.

Thanks for the comments JJ!

And you post BS.

What do you think of Tyler Perry movies, then? Are they good for the black community?

It's not very telling about the adjusted grosses. White people are not the only ones that see movies.

That is the intent of Current. Debate is good. Sucking up a bunch of information without any discussion represents the nature of the old media.
As for the wisdom portion of your comment, while valid, one can't legislate wisdom.
It's the individual's responsibility to glean wisdom from the massive input of information available.
It is also the responsibility of the parent(s) and teachers in our society, which, BTW, is a sound argument for not privatizing education because, once we do things will begin to seriously deteriorate.
Once corporations take over education, they will not care whom they hire but how much they cost.

The debating and discussing articles is what I find relevant on current. People post articles that they find interesting or upsetting and hope that others will as well. And current tells you to make the articles your own when you post them, not just copy and paste the entire thing. Idea is to make them required reading or viewing.

remakes are not a sign of the times,..(7) basic plot shave been repeated throughout history of literature.

1 - [wo]man vs. nature

2 - [wo]man vs. man

3 - [wo]man vs. the environment

4 - [wo]man vs. machines/technology

5 - [wo]man vs. the supernatural

6 - [wo]man vs. self

7 - [wo]man vs. god/religion

The repetitive use of certain universal subjects is not a remake. A remake is just that, literally: when somebody decides to redo an entire film, not just the basic plot, but the ENTIRE film. Take Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, for example. It was a perfectly good adaptation when it was first made back in the 70’s, and then on a sudden (moronic) whim, Burton decided to make his own (much) crappier version. That’s what a remake is.

Now, remaking films has been around forever, and it isn’t always bad. However, nowadays (read: for decades) it seems to be the only thing Hollywood is making! Besides adaptations of (lame) best-sellers and untrascendental crap. It has been like that for a while, actually… that’s why I find it ridiculous that Coppola is just catching on NOW. Especially with his record…

You need to see (500) Days of Summer.

Ooh...don't get me started on people that steal movies. ha..I think it's worse than stealing music. Music is justifiable for many reason since the musician most likely doesn't see much profit from album sells...even with Itunes.

Movies are a totally different thing, though. Many people profit from the sell of a movie.

I would let you borrow it when I buy it. ha.ha.

I can't stop people from doing what they want to do. I can just share my opinion...that's all.

But it is a good movie. I believe you'll like it, because it's not a love story -- as the tagline states.

Supply and demand. I agree with you if they need more people to see there movies they need to decrease the prices.

That's not how it works.

The studios take a high % of profits from ticket sales (if I am not mistaken) and the movie theater gets the rest. They don't get more of the percentage until 3 weeks later. That is why they LOVE films like Star Trek that just keep on giving so that they can get more money.

That is why there is those prices at the concession stand.

Want them lowered the studios have to give up some of that first week percentage to allow theaters to make money.