The politics of 'Avatar:' Conservatives attack film's political message

Wrong. All of the are conservative warmonger fight stories.

You forgot "Revenge of the Sith". Oh, and let's not forget "V for Vendetta", even though that was actually more of a slam on Maggie Thatcher than on Ronald Reagan.

There is no way this film will stand the test of time.

Apparently conservative movie critic John Nolte does.

As they say, "Those who can be creative, do. Those that can't, just criticize because they're jealous"

Live free or die hard was awesome! AWESOME!!!! AAAWWWWEEESSSSOOOMMMEEEE!!!!!!11!!!!!!!

Nice Hicks homage

If you wanna send a message, use a telegram.

And because they're fiscal conservatives, they're all sharing one stick.

Maybe that's why they get stuck on the same idea all the time.
I hadn't thought of that before...

Ain't gonna happen. It's the only pleasure they have in life.

Native Americans got to build Casinos.
I think the Na'Di will build Strip Clubs!

But what do they build the clubs with when it showed all those dozers and miners flattening everything in sight?

With so many rave reviews, and such a high-grossing release, you oughta question just how lame it'll be. ;)

Make an effort to go see it in IMAX. It's very worth it. Even if you find the story lame, at least you'll get the most out of the eye-candy.

Make sure you do yourself the favor of seeing it in 3D. Not liking 3D, I was suprised to KNOW that I made the right choice in seeing it in 3D.
And yes, it is like a children's fantasy book - but I saw people telling their friends it was the best movie they ever saw. - So, it is, at least worth the ride.

This new 3D movie fad (which is a very old thing BTW!) Might actually be helping the movie industry a little! I am not overly sure this type of movie is really my style ,but if it does well that wouldn't be too shocking it WAS put together my that dude who did Titanic! I never cared too much for that movie,but it was a huge success & It wasn't too bad of a film really,I just wasn't too into it!

That should give you an idea of what these people are really like.

That's exactly what I was thinking. These are the kind of people who cheer for the villains. Creepy.

Good point. Everyone should be on the same side, but they are not.

Neo Conservatives spawned by the Reagan era do not consider greed to be a bad thing. Greed is natural and productive for society according to Ayn Rand.
That's how people are able to justify denying healthcare and other social services to the working poor.

It is a flawed economic idea. Milton Freedman had it wrong.
Their idea is whatever heats the economy up is good. It also champions survival of the fittest - which doesn't necessarily favor the best nor ethics and morality.
It is flawed because money does not work in the way that is presumed by their dogma. They have it that money has value and might makes right.
However, the value of money is as an exchange or translator for production. An economy is strongest when all tiers of society are capable and engaged in healthy production.

If a group were to take some large piece of cash from the system, the system would go broke to the degree that production would slow, goods and services would slow, people would go out of work - all lowering the value of the money itself. (along with the very money that was taken).
As production slides further, the value of money goes down further. It becomes a logarithmic slide.

So the value of money and the wealth of the wealthy must include all those lowly ones that fill out the economic money-base. It is the way money works.

I told a billionaire that if he made all the money - and put it in a room somewhere, every dollar would reduce in value to ZERO.

You see? wealth must be made out of the common exchange. Money has no value without all the people having some, being productive and having a good life.
When the overall economy is healthy, the wealthy are having a better life.

If some had their dream of going all the way to "supply side", they'd have the flea-eaten fur on their robes, few trashy bobbles while guarding their little stone rookery and it's few serfs.

balance - means balance. That's where each and every one feels good. Economic health.
Out of balance, no one feels good - first including all those people who wanted everything for themselves alone.

You didn't like Terminator1 & 2?

It's not great. It's a technological landmark achievement maybe, but hardly great. The story is as old as Methuselah. It's typical Hollywood fairytale, happily ever after bullshit tripe.

I'm sorry, but this movie is ten steps backwards from Titanic.

They tell newbie screenwriters you have to make a great story to sell your script. Obviously that is total bullshit, All you have to do to sell a script is glorify war. That way producers get the freebie Defense Department props, sets, aircraft - you name it. This is the corporate social welfare state of America. The way to success is by pawning off the government.

I agree, lattipau. This is just one of those movies in which I enjoyed watching, regardless of any whiny bastards. It was a good movie, not perfect, but good.

Marines blowing nature all to hell is a kids fantasy? What kind of kids are we talking here? The devil's daughters?

i think this was a beautiful film. critics of the way it was done...pleas show me where you made something more impressive and i will listen. i get that not everyone may like this style but to criticize the message within it in our day and age is so sad. it shows a stubborn idiocy that scarrs the world's top leaders. the whole "there is nothing wrong with capitalism!" argument does not cover the high cost of many of it's practices. i cried during this movie because i knew, I KNEW, that people would criticize it without seeing how sad and real it's message is. forget the style, it is important to remind generations of people of the connections we all have to eachother and to the world around us. if this is one more movie that can do that and also be absolutly beautiful to watch... wonderful

Yes it's beautiful if you can accept death and destruction as beautiful. This is what is so wrong with our culture. We glorify and beautify war, evil, death, destruction and human suffering as if to say there is some greater good that these things happen for. That is a load of crap.

Now, aside from that, yes it's beatiful and a lovely fantasy. I do see the value and craft and the wondrful technology. I admire those things. They are wonderful in themselves.

But why must death, war, killing and destruction be necessary to make a beautiful film? That part completely escapes me. So does the fact that the story line is totally age old traditional hollywood fairy tale material. Not at all original. Are you even capable of separateing the evil from the supurb craft that envelopes it with such adoration?

The objective of the military in recruiting is to glorify war and make it look like some great and wonderous thing. Then when the troops come home suffering from the reality of PTSD with more of them committing suicide since Vietnam than were killed in Vietnam, they finally see how inglorious, base and useless war is. by then it's too late.

It's important to see war for what it is. This film subverts that and does a great diservice to humanity for these reasons.

Jon Raymond, im under the impression that you have not seen Avatar. If you had, you would see that the movie parallels with your values. There is violence and war, but not to glorify it. It is about the tragedy of war. There are costs and casualties. Avatar is about getting back to nature.

Ha fern gully! Such a classic!

I used to like that movie during my Captain Planet years.

Avatar is basically: Dances With Wolves in Space; Pocahontas in Space; Ferngully in Space but with no fairies; Dances with Smurfs in Space...That's basically it.