Racebending: Casting Stones at Hollywood Casting Practices

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"Avatar: The Last Airbender," in addition to earning a Peabody, also saw immense commercial success, becoming a veritable animated blockbuster. An instant hit with audiences across the globe, it’s series finale alone drew more than 19 million viewers worldwide and, unsurprisingly, this success spurred Nickelodeon, the animation studio behind the series, to proceed with a live action adaptation. Critics and studio executives went so far as to proclaim it as the studio's answer to Star Wars.
In late December of 2008 the film version of Avatar the Last Airbender began production with four White leads. The casting language for the auditions choosing them read, Caucasian and any other ethnicity. Subsequent casting calls for secondary roles and for extras called for specific racial and cultural affiliations. In fact the casting director, Dee Dee Rickets, actually encouraged wearing cultural regalia saying, "If your from Korea were a Kimono, if your from Belgium wear some lederhosen." Wrongly attributing the national origin of both items of clothing. Rickets also went to northern Virginia and other locations specifically scouting in Asian American communities for actors in background roles. A similar effort was not taken in the search for the leads.
Also raising concerns for fans were comments made by one of the lead actors, Jackson Rathbone. Sokka, the character Rathbone plays is inspired by Inuit culture. In an interview with MTV Rathbone made culturally insensitive comments in regards to his casting and the controversy it was generating ""I think it's one of those things where I pull my hair up, shave the sides, and I definitely need a tan. It's one of those things where, hopefully, the audience will suspend disbelief a little bit."
The comments and casting decisions quickly grew into a controversy and that controversy spawned a media advocacy movement composed of a wide array of individuals including fans of the series, academics, and media professionals. I sat down with Marissa Lee one of the founders of this movement. Lee is one of the founders of the Racebending website and one of its administrators. We sat down to talk about what changed the initial widespread excitement about the film and series into a grassroots protest movement against the film and casting practices it highlights.
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SparkShark16
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The show was beautifully animated and presented, i really dont think there was a need for a live action movie... this is just nickelodeon and hollywood trying to milk more money out of it. my first comment however when i saw the first pictures and trailers was "why are katara and sokka white???" so i guess it is an issue that should be addressed. its a kids movie, so introducing them to worlds where white people are the main heroes, in my opinion, is influencing and almost subliminally manipulating their views and opinions.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36T6EYsv5zM
Racebending Segment of Avatar Panel at Anime Boston 2010 - 2 years ago
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ocanada
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If I had to warrant a guess we were just the victims of a sockpuppet campaign. Since Broken Truth and John Adams as well as a handful of others have just been removed.
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Hard to say. They had varying levels of comprehensibility and different angles of attack. If it's one person doing this all, he/she is good. But it's also possible that they're a bunch of people pissed off that someone could even suggest that racism exists anymore in America. We'll never know...
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BrokenTruth:
That can be said about various films like Starship Troopers, 21, Bulletproof Monk, Prince of Persia, but we can make an impact on future projects: Akira, The Weapon, Bleach, Deathnote.
We may not be able to make changes to this Shyamalan film, but the fans who care and groups like racebending.com are ensuring that the spotlight is being drawn to the Hollywood systemic racist practices. - 2 years ago
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KSirys
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Great Post!!! People are finally seeing what I've been seeing for years now!
Great Post!! - 2 years ago
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DamonAkbar
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Im kinda torn about this Im a martial artist huuuge fan of Avatar... Never missed an ep...Now the movie comes out! excited but dam they did the racial superiority
thing and thats f%cked up... but what do you do theres not gonig to be another
Avatar: The Last Airbender movie after this.... this it... So I boycott it and miss the experience... because right is right and what they did is wrong?That sucks man pisses me off:( im a really big fan
Its amazing how some people can be so selfish and self centered.
and really its now even that serious but its the little things in life that give you joy.... ya know? and this was one of those things.
Will it ever stop?
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DamonAkbar:
Apart from the special effect, I don't think you'll be missing much.
The fight choreographer#s last job was in Indiana Jones and no experience with Chinese martial arts.
Both PAtel and Ringer have knowledge of TaeKWonDo, so it won't equal anything from Hong Kong Cinema. - 2 years ago
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DamonAkbar:
It's not the Avatar you know anymore. Shyamalan is even changing the names. Its now Ong and Eroh. I'm not kidding. He's eliminated all comedic aspects, early reviews say that the only comedic insert is a strange foot massage scene that doesn't go over well and you have to deal with the racial dynamic changes. It's up to you how you decide to spend your money, and I wouldn't want to influence you but I know as a fan of the original I'm not going to attend.
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BrokenTruth:
The Passion of the Christ forwent the old Hollywood yarn that if you use the actual language or cast actual actors from the region in the Christ Story that no one would see it. It was a movie that proved audiances wanted cultural authenticity and that it lent credence to the actors efforts. I loved it for hearing Aramaic, Hewbrew, Latin, and Greek as it would have been heard in the context of the story. It was an amazing artistic achievement in that it didn't comprimise the story for the sake of dumbing it down for a western audiance. It didn't condescend to believers for a buck and while its hardly a perfect film it's not one that would rebuke our efforts.
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No offense but Jewish people were not the target demographic of a picture called the Passion of the Christ. It was mainly catering to Christian groups. In this case the demographic and target mistep is that more children of color are expected to be born this year than children who are not of color and this is intended to be a trilogy of films catering to the youth demographic over as long as a decade. By alienating people of color and playing to old colorist stereotypes they are not only alienating the fans of the original series while diminishing its ability to apeal to markets outside of the U.S. as the animation did but alsoa wide swathe of the ethnic makeup of the country is becoming offended by the practices it highlights are are likely to treat this film with great disdain. While I don't like to simply boil things down to demographics or ethnic politics it's shooting themselves in the foot and limiting the appeal of the film. It is quite possible that this could be a very different tone of protests that will mainly be reflected in wallets and not picket signs.
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The Passion was independently produced not a hundred million dollar pluss summer effects movie. Nor did the Passion have Super Bowl comercials or a marketing budget in the high millions. Airbender needs to make around 150 million dollars in America alone for the studio to approve a sequel. Likely it will need to produce far more than that mark for Paramount to choose to move forward. The Passion only needed to make 30 million to cover everything and make a profit. It also didn't need to justify a sequel let alone two.
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Its sad to see that hardworking talented Asian actors who are starving for work can only have a chance to play the background in a potential blockbuster movie where the main character is Asian. Even worse is the fact that the practice of using whites to fake ethnic roles is a practice as old as Hollywood itself. This is really no different from the old black and white silent films where white actors got dressed in blackface to degrade and dehumanize black people through acting. Hollywood is still one of the most racist industries to work in. Ask any non-white actor and they will tell you. The other Avatar movie is just as bad. It is a white man to the rescue of the poor dumb savages who couldn't defend themselves. Interesting how all the blue people from the other Avatar were mostly black actors but the human hero was a white guy. Its an old Hollywood story-telling formula that still works today.
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JohnAdams:
There is a blog response against this mess. The mess is racism in hollywood casting for Avatar, and the blog is called Racebending. Check it out.
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Strange... this person, JohnAdams keeps on commenting, despite being removed. For the past 2 days, I've been seeing his comments, suppossedly made 1 Hour ago or 2 or 3. For the past few days, his comments keep popping up from a supposedly "removed" member.
What's going on??
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Ditto! What is going on? This guy does nothing to further the discussion. He just rants and raves nonsense. If he's gone, let him be gone and be done with it. He serves no real good service.
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It's just getting stranger and stranger. It seems like this person is still commenting, but is removed. His profile does not exist, and the link goes to nothing...
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JohnAdams:
Even better, you're more like Uncle Ruckus then. You are one truely vexing oxymoron.
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"I am sad that people want it to be dominated by Asians when the race of the characters were never specific. If people need to connect to those who are similar in race...then they are the real racist"
It would seem that Mr.Adams suffers from Yellow Peril, and perhaps even fears Asians lol.
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JohnAdams:
Why am I not surprised that when it comes to white actors in white roles, JohnAdams considers those to be "race specific." When it comes to non-white roles, they're not race specific. One wonders if JohnAdams has even seen Avatar...
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It's sad that people are defending the casting by saying that Paramount just chose the most talented actors--implying that the best actors are always the white ones. I'm sure that Ringer, Peltz, and Rathbone are very talented, but they should never have been considered for these roles. If Hollywood really did cast the most talented actors for every role, regardless of the character's intended race, we would see a black Harry Potter or a Latino Legolas for every white Sokka. But we don't see that. This movie was an amazing chance to give leading, heroic roles to underrepresented races, and give little Asian-American and Native American kids heroes who look like them to look up to. Paramount squandered that chance.
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Am I the only one pleased that JohnAdams is gone? Somehow I just don't think so.
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George_Luo
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Paramount is scared of breaking the status quo in favor of profits. They underestimate the American consumer. Boycott the movie! Send them a message that, certainly in the 21st century, such whitewashing should never have occurred.
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George_Luo:
Yes!!
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I fully support Racebending and its actions, There are enough skilled Asian actors in hollywood to cast Avatar, but hollywood just wants to use white people because they don't think that Asian leads can carry the movie.
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JohnAdams:
Hey bucko, do you have anything better to do than to troll the comments section of this article?
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JohnAdams:
Minorities can't act? You're so white, I can tell. It oozes out of every word you put on the page.
Minorities can act, and the hundreds of countries with film industries can attest to that. Maybe it's not that they can't act, but that you don't want to look at anything that's not white.
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I think the US is a multicultural country. If a character in a book or in a cartoon is originally non-white, the character should remain non-white in a feature film or a live-action TV series. I suppose moviemakers and book publishers might assume that putting a non-white person on a cover of a book or using white actors ofr a film will make more people see it. But I think when they do that they show they don't believe in the American people, and they reinforce the sense of a vacuum and make little non-white kids think there are no books out there for them. Non-whites can save the world as well as whites. Non whites can be heroic or appear in non-stereotypical roles. The trouble is that racebending is done so often that it does make minorities suspicious. When they turned Ursula LeGuin's Earthsea novel into a film for scifi channel, they made the hero and his people white. Very strange. Honestly, in 30 years, the USA will be more multicultural than it is now. Filmmakers and Hollywood should get on board.
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Because the interest has been so high I'm taking advantage of the comment functionality by adding some additional elements from the interview that didn't make their way into the profile. And I'm reposting a link to the first brief profile of MANA's media advocacy campaign in response to the casting of The Weapon which resulted in our first introduction to the Racebending movement.
http://current.com/entertainment/movies/91666905_racially-charged-casting-in-com...
CG I have a final question about the casting. In terms of the background characters. The stunt double for the lead, Aang is actually an Asian woman.
ML: Yup, Yeah.
GC: Well I have to ask, what goes through your head when you see that the reason the lead was chosen was for a proficiency in martial arts but they have to replace him not just with an Asian man but an Asian woman in the scenes that involve extensive martial arts or stunts?
ML: Well the face value answer is that no insurance company is going to sell a policy to a film production where the lead actor is doing very dangerous stunts and the whole production could be over if he got hurt. As for why they employ a female stunt double the actor is young so they needed to employ someone who is petite and who had a lot of stunt experience. As to why she is Asian, it's always possible that could just be who they found.
If you break it down to the message that sends to the Asian American community its that the people in your community aren’t good enough to play the main character but we’ll gladly let you play in the background roles, or you know, to help make the production.
There was this article in the Pennsylvania paper where its being filmed about how they were importing these trees from Asia to make the sets look more Asian and that many of the props were being created with Inuit designs and craftsmanship. But there is still this glass ceiling for the main roles.
GC: Is there a political dimension to the group? I ask because Current and the otaku group first became aware of the casting of the film when Jeff Yang and Derik Kirk Kim wrote about it in the context of the inauguration of Barack Obama which happened right around the week of the casting announcement and because President Obama has Asians among his immediate family members with two Chinese in-laws and his half sister who is half Indonesian and of course he himself grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia, some APA groups even jokingly referred to him as the first Asian president around this time. I wonder if you have thought about this in a political dimension or against the backdrop of greater inclusivity in government and if you thought that should be applied to Hollywood as well?
ML: As a citizen of the United States I think its awesome. On the presidential flickr feed you see this little Asian American girl and to realize that's the presidents niece and she's toddling around in the White House as an Asian American citizen that means so much to me. I don't know if Racebending.com is necessarily the arena to discuss these issues of representation in politics but for right now at least we want to keep our focus on this very specific casting practice and media representation. I think its just another sign that our country is becoming more and more diverse and that Hollywood is getting behind the times.
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Thanks so much for running this article. It's about time that our media reflected America's diversity.
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Thank you for bringing attention to media representation and its impact on not only performers, but the consumers of media - from American children to the world abroad.
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great article
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awesome article!
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I won't be giving my money to watch this film.
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Miranda18:
Same here!
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Like Hollywood hasn't done this for every other movie ever made?
"We're casting the part of George Washington.... get me some of those Slumdog Millionaire kids. Wait, what color were they again?"
I love the director's wrongful attributed cultures comment hahahah
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EmperorThan:
Don't you love how obviously ignorant and pretentious the director has to be? Sounds like the right kind of personality to lift this movement to the spotlight.
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I am boycotting this movie... as if you could not figure that out already...
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Thanks for bringing attention to this topic! We need to make every single movie reviewer at every major newspaper aware of this topic and the controversy surrounding the casting of this movie!!! For a movie reviewer to review this movie and not mention this topic... it will be a tragedy and poor journalism!!!
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mazuzu:
movie reviewers are not journalists...
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Thanks for a well-rounded article, and for giving voice and coverage to the movement. I urge everyone to read the linked interview with Marissa to better understand the reasoning behind our protest.
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great article stop the racist practices in hollywood join the movement!
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Justin_Ng:
Voted up!!
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I've never watched this show but I am so tired of hollywood underestimating the american people and their desire and follow through to watch movies that actually have actors of the race or ethnicity the character is suppose to be.
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imunbalanced:
Voted up!!
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I dont care about the race of whoever portrays characters on the screen, as long as they do it respectfully and well.
I thought we were past this, especially since Tropic Thunder
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0942385/ - 2 years ago
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parisinla:
The entire existence of "Racebending.com" is tell the folks who may not see it, that it is offensive and egregious. This was a huge opportunity to cast actors of color in a movie that was based on roles that revolved around their culture. It is cultural insensitivity to not let them represent it and to say that someone else can represent it better is in no way, respectful. It's actually downright oppressive.
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James_Lew:
while that may be true in some cases, there is no evidence of that in Avatar.
Casting is done on two principles, performance + Equity/equitabilty. and many times budget comes into play.
I think its disrespectfull to the craft of the artist who portray the rolls (regardless of race) to tell them that they arent good enough to play that roll becasue they arent of a certain race. And frankly thats a racist attitude. No one demands blind actors play blind rolls or gay actors play in gay rolls race should be no different.
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parisinla:
Even if you don't think that the actors must be Asian, don't you think it's still racist that all the protagonists are white? Yes, other races should be allowed to participate in Asian culture, but to the extent that Caucasians hog the spotlight as the main heroes and not even one Asian has a major heroic role, in a movie based on a story set in an Asian world full of Asian clothing, buildings, and food, where the written language is Chinese? It's pretty much saying, "We're willing to pay tribute to the culture(s), just not the actual people behind the culture(s)."
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It's also strange that, in a casting selection where acting ability was supposedly the primary concern, Paramount rejected their own Brandon Soo Hoo, who had both martial arts skills and acting experience from working with the studio previously, in favor of newcomer Noah Ringer, who had to be sent to acting school.
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Thank you Current.com for taking an interest in this movement, that which I'm proud to be a part of!
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I'm so glad to see this site taking an interest in this movement! I hope to see more about this issue on this site.
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Avatar is an amazing series with surprising depth, but I'm disappointed, I feel it will be sadly misrepresented in this film.
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This issue could definitely use more coverage. Thanks for writing about it.
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This is a well done article and many thanks to both parties for being awesome! =Db
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excellent article. Thanks for putting this up.
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Great article. Thanks for posting.
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This isn't just an issue of what race can pass for what, it's just the fact that most Asian American actors are snubbed because they simply "don't sell." If anyone recalls the movie Extraordinary Measures with Harrison Ford and Brendan Fraser, well, that movie is based on the true story of Dr. Yuan-Song Chen. And we all know that Ford can't play an Asian dude, so the character was rewritten.
A lot of people don't realize that this stuff HAPPENS ALL THE TIME in Hollywood. Have you ever noticed that many of the parts Asians are offered are either geeky asexual roles or kung fu fighters for men, and hot chicks (who may or may not kick ass) for women? Other than Harold and Kumar, have we ever seen an Asian American *actually* play an Asian American?
Think about it. In terms of this movie, we should be seeing more Asian talent because in this day, there's a lot of it. The fact that they were snubbed for more "marketable" options is just getting ridiculous.
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Great article, and well-researched interview with Marissa Lee!
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I think this was a poor decision in casting but this is to be expected from Hollywood, I am more upset by how dark all the trailers look. The good nature and humor of the original cartoon was integral to the theme.
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If you have to be a native american to play a native american the same standard should apply for other cultures
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feefer2010:
But you DONT have too.. Daniel Day Lewis played native american in last of the mohicans.
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parisinla:
Yes, and that is wrong.
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Oscars have been given to a Caucasian Woman playing an Asian Woman, Luise Rainer the Good Earth 1937. An Oscar went to a Caucasian Woman who played an Asian Male, Linda Hunt, The Year of Living Dangerously 1983. There has never been an Asian woman nominated for a best actress or best supporting actress category. Just some food for thought if you thought yellowface was something that's in Hollywood's distant past or that because it received industry accolades it's a practice that wasn't exclusionary. It is a given in todays society that blackface was a terrible and even racist tactic used by Hollywood to exclude and even insult black actors. But blackface did earn Hollywood accolades. Seven films with blackface were given academy award nominations. Eight if you include Robert Downey jr. in Tropic Thunder where he was nominated for best supporting actor in 2008.
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Didn't Bruce Lee (among many others obviously) have to deal with this same shit 40 years ago. Goddamn, at least have some respect for the creator's character renditions if you feel pissing off a whole race of people is not enough.
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Who cares what color the characters are? All I care about is if its a good movie.
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Good reason to show my favorite moment from the series. For those who haven't seen the series, you can see a little of why it received a peabody. This is Mako only the second APA actor to receive an Oscar nomination and the founder of the East West Players. He is the voice actor behind this Character, Iroh.
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first time i agree with you i loved this series.
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Interesting article and topic! Thanks for posting!
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Ok I watched this show over the last few months. I have no clue how anyone could think that Aang or Zuko are white. Seriously, how? The names aren't particularly white, nor are their clothes. Heck, Zuko has an Asian inspired accent for crying out loud.
And if you think that the filmmakers didn't realize they are supposed to be Asian, think again. The casting call for extras asked explicitly for Asians to come in their cultural garments, like kimonos and such.
This is cultural insensitivity. Once you realize how often people of colour are ignored in favour of WHITE actors, you start to get sick of it. For fucks sake, at least let people of colour act out the roles of people of colour in their own damned stories!!!
And don't give me that bs about how they must have Bern the best actors for the role. Dev patel was castes as zuko only once Jesse McCartney dropped out. Dev is more Sokka than Zuko, but that's an aside. A white, crappy actor was chosen first, then, a GOOD actor who starred in an Oscar winning movie was selected after the crappy actor dropped out. Uh, yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with color. I mean, Dev Patel being a better actor than Jesse McCartney? Pshh, what am I thinking?
Oh and, just another Hollywood movie off the top of my head... 21. The entire friking cast was white except extras (apparently, like avatar the last airbender, people of colour's acting only is tolerable when they're in the background...?). But the people that the story was based on - ALL Asian.
Apparently, Hollywood thinks white is more palateable. Even when given evidence to the contrary. And it's when we don't step up and call out the racism that this trend continues. If you want to see true acting skills, you have to let diversity in.
If you still think that the actors chosen were the best, keep in mind that the dude playing Sokka is the guy who had no actual lines in Twilight and a permenantly constipated look grafted on to his face. Perhaps they were chosen as"the best" because they ignored all the awesome actors of colour that were there. Like Hollywood always does.
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"The Last Samuri with Tom Cruise?..Come on, Tom Cruise is the Last Samuri? Whats next? The Last Nigga on Earth featuring Tom Hanks.."
-Paul Mooney
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Ricky84:
Perfect!
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Ricky84:
Paul Mooney is so awesome!
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Ricky84:
Too funny. We could start a list of possible movie names and actors to play the part.
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JohnAdams:
if your a racist bigot all the time, why are you on current?
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JohnAdams:
He based on Sam Jackson, after Sam had already been cast to play the S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. Also, Marvel movies have been using traditional Marvel Universe stories as source materials, not the Ultimate Universe.
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JohnAdams:
one. a british comedy has a pass with race because britain a really low black community
two. chris rock is not hollywood he is chris rock and there for re-does alot of movies with a black cast he is chris rock
three. you are uncomfortably ignorant
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JohnAdams:
Its called a Black comedy in Britain, right? So why not cast a Black cast?
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Paramount isn't just racist against Asians, it is also racist against whites. I mean a black Nick Fury? Come on!
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existentialist:
It's not so much a question of racism as it is cultural insensitivity and the demographics of Hollywood. If Asians and Native American actors aren't even allowed to portray historical or mythical figures of their own race than it closes avenues for more traditional roles and advances a belief among the community that acting isn't a career that can be realistically pursued. It follows an overtly racist practice of Yellowface and Brownface which for some reason were considered more culturally acceptable than Blackface and continued into the late 1980's and even today in comedic roles. The net message of these casting practices has been exclusionary and it simply doesn't mesch with the demographics of either Hollywood or America.
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ocanada:
Without researching internal casting practices beyond this article, I can only form conclusions based on actual movies. From the movies, casting doesn't seem overtly racist. In most cases, I would like to believe they cast the most talented actor regardless of race. As for why the studio preferred Caucasian people for the roles, may hint at racism, but I think it is more of the Asian Indian director's visionary choice. Shyamalan was already set on casting Nicole Peltz before auditions. To me this whole things seems like another case of finding racism were it isn't.
You could be right and all studios and directors in Hollywood are racist, but it just seems far-fetched to me. It is hard to believe that as an non-Caucasian person himself, Shyamalan would be intentionally racist in his casting.
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existentialist:
If Nikola Peltz was chosen before the auditions than the dynamic was set as Caucasian before a single person had auditioned for the movie and that does mean that the auditions weren't held in good faith and that people of color were not given fair consideration.
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ocanada:
I agree, but just because a directors vision is to cast white people as part of the films aesthetic, does not mean racism. A directors number one goal is to have a film meet his vision, not to be PC. The same is true for any artist. If the creator's of the original cartoon are happy with it, which they seem to be, I don't see why there is such an uproar.
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existentialist:
That would be my take. +^d
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The creators are barred from responding by contract. However the director Giancarlo Volpe did comment and is vehemently opposed to the films casting. In response to the criticisms of the casting the creators posted an original piece of art with Aang and Momo reflecting his enthicity.
The series creators did explicitly state the ethnic origins of their characters. It's part of the series bible, and the treatments and promotions Nickelodeon created for the show. They had even hired cultural consultants to ensure that the content for the show wasn't inadvertently offensive.
Even Roger Ebert took offense to the casting in his answerman segment.
"My Answer: Wrong. The original series Avatar: The Last Airbender was highly regarded and popular for three seasons on Nickelodeon. Its fans take it for granted that its heroes are Asian. Why would Paramount and Shyamalan go out of their way to offend these fans? There are many young Asian actors capable of playing the parts." - 2 years ago
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ocanada:
Seeing a white kid taking part in Asian culture and adhering to Eastern philosophy more likely would make a white kid think hey I can be a part of and study Eastern traditions too. If it was an all Asian cast white kids may feel alienated and think that those cultures are not for them, but rather remnants of an inferior culture. Overall won't the movie encourage diversity?
Sometimes, it seems that no matter what a movie does it will be portrayed as racist. Take Disney's princess and the frog, Tiana character was originally supposed to be a slave, which would have been historically and culturally accurate, but people cried racism and she was changed to a waitress.
Some people are just too sensitive to race issues. The only thing it results in is studios going out of their way to ensure their movies are not offensive, often times at the cost of the story. Just take the movie for what it is and avoid race politics is my advice.
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existentialist:
As it stands with whites recieving 69 percent of all roles and Asians one percent that is moot. Because its people of color feeling excluded more than 69 percent of the time. White children aren't suffering for heroes on television or cinema. Let alone examples aimed towards children, They have the Karate Kid, Three Ninjas, Forbiden kindgom, etc. There are dozens of films where a white lead takes part in an Asian cultural setting while relegating the characters of Asian persuasion to the background. This would have been the first wide release film for Paramount of 2010 to feature an Asian lead and very likely the only one. Now there are none. If the dynamic were reversed you would also reserve the right to point out the factual nature of that dynamic.
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