Shell to court: We're ready to drill Arctic Ocean
source: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/6420up_us_arctic_drilling.html
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Kathleen Sullivan, an attorney for Shell, said the company has spent at least $3.5 billion on Alaska operations in the past few years as it prepares for exploratory drilling set for July in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas.
"Shell has waited years to recover its investment," Sullivan told a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Portland. "We're ready to go."
"I'm sure Shell would like to win," replied Chief Judge Alex Kozinski.
But a coalition of environmentalists and Native Alaska groups who are challenging the drilling plans told the court the federal Minerals Management Service failed to consider the potential threat to wildlife and the risk for disaster before it approved the Shell project.
Christopher Winter, an attorney for the Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commission, said the Interior Department agency "simply ignored key aspects" about the possible effects of drilling operations on bowhead whales, including interruption of feeding patterns.
David Shilton, a Justice Department lawyer representing the minerals service, responded by saying studies have shown noise from drilling has only a "temporary and minor" effect on the whales, whose population is healthy and has been increasing.
Deirdre McDonnell, the attorney for the Native Village of Point Hope in Alaska, the lead petitioners in the case, argued that Shell had not made adequate plans to deal with an emergency, such as a major spill.
The Shell plan, for example, "doesn't say what happens if the drill ship is disabled or has sunk," McDonnell told the judges.
She also said government did not consider the cumulative impact of drilling in the Arctic Ocean.
Sullivan argued, however, the government must consider the facts at hand rather than "speculative" future impact and Shell has made extensive plans that include dealing with "the remote and infinitesimal likelihood of a spill."
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced last December the Minerals Management Service had conditionally approved plans by Shell to drill three exploratory wells in the Chukchi Sea, saying environmentally responsible exploration is a key component of reducing dependence on foreign oil.
Conditional approval for exploration in the Beaufort Sea came last October, as part of the development of oil leases sold under the Bush administration and upheld by the Obama administration in March.
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inyourstory
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there just seems to be no hope in stopping them, as oil becomes more and more valuable... :(
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elementalist
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reducing dependency on foreign oil, how about oil all together, Comes back to the bottom dollar, fuck the planet fill your pockets huh.... idiocracy
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CalgarC
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Calgar C to sHell "FUCK YOU"
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Sapience:
This isn't about stopping AMERICA, this is about stopping SHELL. When you understand that then maybe you won't look like a total fool here with your "green hatred." This is also about MORALITY GLOBALLY since Shell is a GLOBAL company. Save your BS holier than thou politically partisan sermons for someone who gives a damn. Oil drilling KILLS THIS PLANET, wildlife and marinelife, and is contributing to the tipping point of our climate balance and it is way past time to move on to the future which is totally possible. But of course not to those stuck in the same status quo ruts. You need real vision to understand that as well.
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Sapience:
But SHELL is the topic of THIS post. Your defense of these murderers actually makes me sick. Got it? YOU SICKEN ME.
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Sapience:
This isn't only about DRILLING in regards to Shell. This is about HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AND MURDER. Are you that dense? Or just that much of a moral coward? Which is it? BOTH? I don't have the patience anymore to talk to scumbags who defend these companies just because it is either CONVENIENT OR FINANCIALLY REWARDING FOR THEIR LIVES OR FILLS SOME SORT OF BS PARTISAN POLITICAL/IDEOLOGICAL AGENDA. YOU are part of the problem. So don't sit there pontificating to me. I will say it once again so you understand: DRILLING IN GENERAL KILLS THIS PLANET, SHELL (complicit in MURDER in Nigeria) which is the topic of this post in corrolation to OIL is now begging to spread their destruction to the ARCTIC ( also don't recall typing the word America at all anywhere here) one of the most pristine places on Earth and also the one area being hardest hit by the climate change burning their shit causes, all the while KNOWING what that shit causes in the midst of one of the most destructive environmental disasters once again involving OIL. If you can't see the moral and ethical side of this discussion besides being absolutely BLIND to the environmental and economic effects of continuing to burn this shit thus bringing this planet closer to a tipping point, you are HOPELESS... And I have no more time to WASTE on you.
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futuregen
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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/7/government_exempted_bp_from_environmental_r...
Excerpt:
"KIERAN SUCKLING: Well, first off, I think that the President should announce a complete moratorium on all new offshore oil drilling. This three-week time-out is really too little, too late. And it’s very important to do that now because the president, under the urging of Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar, has planned to open up new offshore oil drilling in Alaska, in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, and on the Atlantic coast. And that just needs to end. It’s not safe anywhere, anytime.
Secondly, the president should immediately revoke existing oil permits and especially in Alaska. Shell Oil, this July, has- is going to start doing offshore oil drilling in the Chukchi Sea of Alaska. And if you think it’s difficult to clean up oil in the relatively warm, calm Gulf of Mexico, imagine trying to do this with icebergs and sea ice, twenty hours of darkness in the Arctic oceans. It just cannot be done. If this spill had happened in Alaska, its magnitude would have been ten times worse than has happened in the Gulf.
Then, thirdly, the President should start an initiation of an investigation of Ken Salazar and his role in allowing this to happen. Salazar has been a major proponent of the offshore oil drilling industry. He passed legislation as a senator in 2006 to open up the Gulf of Mexico in the first place to offshore oil drilling. He gets campaign contributions by British Petroleum. And then he walks into this agency he is supposed to reform, and instead of reforming it, pushes it to do even more offshore oil drilling. So Ken Salazar is part of the problem here, not the solution. He should not be doing the investigation of MMS. He should be under investigation for helping to cause this crisis."
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Gravity_Man:
No, you were right on time. It has failed and they knew it would. It's called C Y A.
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artemis6
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Good timing , Shell .
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Kurta
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Oh this is a great idea. This country never seems no learn from it's mistakes. It's pretty arrogant of Shell to bring this up in the middle of the Gulf crisis. It's also pretty shitty that they're trying to sleaze on in, under the radar.
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HsIV
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i hope there is a god so these people have someone to answer to. its like a tenet kicking wholes in the wall of an apartment.
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HsIV:
Right on! Sometimes I wish there was a hell, just for people like this.
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dragon1984
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there goes the polar bears....
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DeliaTheArtist
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No doubt they've been ready for a long time ... thanks for nada on this one Obama.
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Jahvega
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when will enough be enough! :( It simple to get off oil and provide new jobs! Who will lose? Gas stations have other items to sell. Oil will still have other uses, less damaging to the environment then cars. Cars will run on other sources so car companies stays. In fact I can not think of a reason why getting off gas vehicles would be bad? Who would hurt?
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Thats just great lets just open up the whole world to drilling hell we ain't killing it fast enough as it is are we? I say ban all off shore drilling till each an every rig has passed a through inspection.Then only if they have a damn good safety record.
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bailey78
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pjacobs51
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Trying to slip one by while everyones looking at the gulf?
WTF???
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JanforGore
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No more blood for oil.
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Kaelos
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How about we clean the mess in the ocean before we start drilling again...
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JanforGore
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Kaelos:
How about we clean the mess in the ocean and stop drilling altogether?
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JanforGore:
i hear what you are saying but what do you plan to do to change the way things are done? you can just say that like "i dream of genie", but you have to replace it what about planes, trucks, ext. whom will pay to convert all the moter's of the planet to bio-deasal or what have you? we must not be knee jerk even if we are totally correct.
trust me i agree i haven't owned a car since 2002 and haven't had my DL since 2004 (no dui's just don't like the pollution and the half ass i care hybrid stuff)
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HsIV:
Diesel trucks, cars can be run on 100% biodiesel with no conversion. I have a diesel VW that I run on 100% (99.9%) biodiesel in the summer. The fuel lines have not clogged. It runs fine. The only complication has been military, redneck republican interference as they don't want the public to know that you don't have to purchase their oil. (They have done all kinds of things to my cars, it has been horrible) This is soy biodiesel You can also run a diesel on grease, that when you need to add a heater and filter.
All cars can presently be run on up to 50% ethanol without any additions. I run my Prius on E-85 year round. David Blume offers an alcohol fuel conversion kit you can add to any car (i think it's about $300.00) that automatically makes the proper adjustments to run on 100% alcohol.
The present problem is finding the fuel. I live in the midwest so E-85 is available but it is GMO corn. I have to travel out of state to get soy biodiesel as the rednecks around here won't sell me any. The soy biodeisel is also GMO. We need sustainable non-GMO fuels to be widely available to the public. That's why people make their own alcohol or use grease.
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GoodGodGuy
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Wait! Have they paid the 310 billion for the cleanup yet?
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JanforGore
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Stop Shell.
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futuregen
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To get back on topic: Holy F***ing s**t:
http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil-Spills/The-Cover-up-BP-s-Crude-Politics-and-...
'There is another major threat looming for inland towns and cities. With hurricane season in effect, there is a potential for ocean oil to be picked up by hurricane-driven rains and dropped into fresh water lakes and rivers, far from the ocean, thus adding to the pollution of water supplies and eco-systems."
"There is other satellite imagery being withheld by the Obama administration that shows what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest."
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futuregen
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http://www.nlightsweb.com/lib/lyrics/ashes.htm#ON
Another great album.
ON THE FRONTIER
We all are standing unafraid on the frontier
We all are shadows in the shade on the frontier
When the dawn is come we will stand strong
Where we belongThe day belongs to each of us our time is getting near
The way is wrong for each of us our time is getting near
The seeds of yesterday are breaking through
To youWe're on the frontier now
We're on the frontier now
We're on the frontier now
We're on the frontier nowWe're on the frontier now
So come on leave the dark behind and join the day now
It's peaceful revolution time to join the day now
Morning breaks the light will shine and find the blindWe all are standing unafraid on the frontier
We all are shadows in the shade on the frontier - 3 years ago
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futuregen
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HowdyDo also posted this story with links to more petitions.
http://current.com/news/92419689_shell-oil-to-court-were-ready-to-drill-arctic-o...
You asked on another post about political music. Neil Young wrote 'Living with war' during the Bush years. Really good.
http://www.jtmp.org/NeilYoung.htm
http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html
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Also, this album is really good. I was a host family that year for Up With People, World in Motion tour.http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/world-in-motion/id296752448
Believe, we are refugees, What's happening to you, we've got the power. ( I'm sure you'd like those. Il Faut Tout Leur Dire is a pro peace song. Chanter is 'sing'. Whose Next is and HIV Aides song.
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'Muse', a british libertarian band is very popular. They sound a bit like Queen. Also Rage against the machine, Thievery corporation, green day:) - 3 years ago
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JanforGore
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejym4mKelhM
Will Shell be gas flaring in the Arctic as well? Will there also be human rights abuses as in Nigeria? How this administration could ever allow this is sickening.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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Drilling in the pristine Arctic simply cannot be allowed.
You can take action:
http://action.earthjustice.org/campaign/arctic_0510?qp_source=actioncenter
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