BP is KILLING THE PLANET: I don't care who wins the World Cup

ok
at the risk of opening a vindictive spew of anti-obama, please explain to me wtf is the expectation?
when the ex-valdez spewed, bush 1 didn't even go to the site.
i don't give a fart if obama's there but there'd better be some oversight; some ball-busters looking over everything BP does. maybe that's where he lacks. trying to be bi-partisan and getting everyone to play nicely together.

enlighten me

vindictive spew? from me? no way.

but just for fun...

Rham Emmanuel when asked about Tony Hayward's sailing day:

“Well, to quote Tony Hayward, he’s got his life back, as he would say,” Emanuel said with a smile. “And I think we can all conclude that Tony Hayward is not going to have a second career in PR consulting. This has just been part of a long line of PR gaffes and mistakes.”

This comment was made while Obama was out golfing...

How about Obama just get out of the way and let the gulf coast governors do what they have to do to stop the oil? It took the O weeks to respond to their requests to build berms and other actions and even then denied much of the request due to "environmental concerns"

How about the O allowing all those foreign nations to help and clean this shit up?

How about having a panel of actual EXPERTS advise the president, and not just professors and other hothouse flowers?

There are dozen things they could have done differently, I'm too tired of this argument to repeat myself over and over. I've done it before.

I love how you go all the way back to Exxon Valdez to poke a Bush eye...funny that. This is happening now...maybe take a moment to think that after Katrina the Bush 43 administration suspended the Jones Act to let foreign ships enter to help within days.

the facts are the facts: Obama is the great ditherer and golfer, hypocrite extraordinaire

well cr, i didn't necessarily mean the spew would come from you.
yes bush did suspend the jones act but what happened after that and the state of the state is another topic.
and bush 1 gets a poke in the eye because it's a fact.

i think the bottomline is that the anti-obama factions realize that they were just too stupid to run a candidate that could actually stand up to the dems.

now it's just a bunch of whining, pissing, moaning and anti-every-decision-made-by-this-administration (i buy hyphens by the truckload), aka foxnews.

where are the internment camps when you really need them?????

and just in case you want something from more recent memory re BP and the US administration.....

http://www.asq.org/qualitynews/qnt/execute/displaySetup?newsID=9012&WT.mc_id...

I don't think it was possible for the republicans to run ANY candidate to win in 2008, the public sentiment was too negative. i also think that a major part of the vote for obama was really just a vote AGAINST the GOP and there was an unhealthy suspension of common sense to think about what Obama really offered. The press did not do its job, only a very few really tried to get people to think about Obama's inexperience and "vote present" mentality.

and now we have what you all gave us. I think it's clear by now that, as little as I like McCain, he would have been much better. Hillary was probably the best option. Although I would have been happier with Huckabee or perhaps Romney. But that's just now how it shook out.

you're wrong about the "anti-every decision" bullshit. I heard Newt Gingrich praise obama for firing McChrystal. And O'Reilly has praised him for extracting the promise of $20 billion fund, so grow up and actually watch Fox and learn, or stop making blanket statements without any knowledge.

meanwhile, obama is the worst fuck up for a president we've had since carter, I saw worse than Carter. and you can't change the fact that Americans are starting to agree with me.

the dems right now are where the GOP was in 2006. in big trouble

curtis curtis curtis, just when i think we're having a discussion you pull the "so grow up and actually watch Fox and learn".
you hang me out to dry for "anti-every decision" and then come back with "obama is the worst fuck up for a president we've had since carter" and "Americans are starting to agree with me."
why? because someone did a poll?
ugh, please. i just ate lunch and you're making me sick.
or is it discourse is fine as long as it's your discourse.
THAT is the fox way

Amen. Curtis, congratulate yourself. You just got a liberal, a SUPER liberal, to agree with you. Barry needs to get crackin' on this.

I loved Hillary.

Oh You OMM

e.g. brazil v. portugal

It's called having an opinion.

+^d

Tell him yourself.

I have actually. Wrote him a email two weeks ago. Didn't seem to notice.

Had to look it up. 29 days ago to be precise. Want to see the text?

"Mr. President, I did not vote for you and I do not agree with some of your policies. But we must put that aside. Our Gulf Coast is dire peril. I implore you, we must use all of our resources now to end this catastropy. Bring in the military, bring in NASA, recruit other countries, the oil spill in the gulf must be stopped, whatever it takes. We can have all the congressional hearings and finger pointing sessions we want afterward. We can lay all the blame we want later. We can tax and fine and levy and censure however we think is appropriate later. All that can be sorted out in due time. All that is secondary. Job one is to get this fixed, now. I don't want to see us drop our guard on any front, but nothing Al Quieda could do would be as disastorous to our country as losing our Gulf Coast for a generation, at least. This is a dire emergency and I pray you will stop at nothing to overcome it. As a Mississippian, I still see the scars left from Katrina, and I fear the scars from this disaster will be much, much worse. Stop at nothing, spare no effort, we need you now more than ever before. I pray you have the strength, I know you will."

A month ago and no response, no resolution. What's your next suggestion?

Then what was the point of suggesting it to me? Nothing else worth saying?

very good, agreed

so that's how you talk to someone who is agreeing with you?

or are you still so caught up in the Obama Cult that you can't see the incompetence?

Hmm, I guess I was right. Just vote my question down.

No, I'm not caught up in ANY cult, but you seem to be. When I complain about this EVERYONE INVOLVED is included. If it were Bush you probably wouldn't give a damn so please spare me your hypocrisy. It is already a GIVEN that Obama is part of my absolute DISGUST with how this is being handled, therefore I don't need any ADVICE from you or John A about whom to express that disgust to or how to do it simply because you are using this ecocide as an excuse to translate your own political hatred. I have no POLITICAL PARTY allegiance. MY allegiance is to a sustainable planet and that DOES cross all other lines. Read my original response here. Does not the word GOVERNMENT make you undersrtand the context? Or do you always need someone to translate for you?

Damn you planet hater!

That was a joke 99!

Certainly NOT Sir

"New Orleans" is now getting oil rain? What do you think happened when Katrina, flooded oil tank farms and gasoline/lubricant storage facilities? This rain is small potatoes when compared to the environmental disaster imposed on N.O. by Katrina, yet now 5 years later, no outcry.

Well my friend we will see. I have been in the Lafayette, LA, Hilton for the last 4 weeks, with several thundershowers occurring, usually in the early afternoon.We are 100 miles from N.O. yet no oil rain as of today. June 24,2010. Only 30 miles from Vermilion Bay and the Gulf of Mexico. A video of oil soaked asphalt is an insult to the people here suffering a real environmental and economic disaster.

I would never live in the Bible belt.

There is no off shore drilling on the west coast - OR, Wa and Cali all agree the environment is too precious to screw around with, while people in the South want to keep drilling in the Gulf even after this disaster.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Come to the pacific northwest, where religious superstition is rare and people actually care for and preserve their environment.

Then live it ignorant, uninformed , and intolerant. Don't let me spoil you perfect life. I also never said you had to live your entire life being pissed off. It's called passion, perhaps you should look it up. Great way to twist the entire meaning of the post to validate your own apathy simply because you hate people who live in the South because you think they are all religious. Do you think they deserved this then?

You might like the South. There are a lot of nice people here. One of the top charter boat captains fishing out of Venice, Stu Scheer, this week refused to condemn the oil industry during a televised interview, stating that without the structure provided by rigs and platforms, most commercial and charter operations off of Louisiana would have shut down years ago.

how's that massive deficit in cali working for you? yeah, you guys really have all the reason in the world to hoot and holler, what a great example you all are. businesses are leaving the state, your unemployment is at a record level, just about the only ones who love CA nowadays are the homosexuals and the illegal mexicans.

you should write a book: Fuck up your economy for dummies, California edition

why are you so angry, jan, you have everything you've ever wanted. democrats running the white house, senate, and congress, you know, those brilliant can-do-anything democrats. and here you are attacking a fellow liberal because he's pointing some of his arrogant liberal angst back at you.

don't you agree that your governor H. Barber and governor jendal seem to be much more on top of this than the dweeb dems in washington?

she's still mad that Gore is not president...or her lover. if he had an affair, why not with Jan for Gore? "I'm your BIGGEST fan, Al!"

I live in Portland, Oregon, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

Believe me, he would be a much better choice than a majority of men on this planet.. for both. Now take that and run with it.

I wouldn't accept all that, because many antibiotics are made from petroleum, albeit under cleaner conditions. Cancer usually takes YEARS but in the case of anyone already having cancer seeds perhaps they'll go faster. I was up north in Vermont and New Hampshire when the Exxon Valdez evaporated crude came through. It messed up my judgement but, my judgement was already lacking from a dysfunctional and rare thyroid disease. I didn't need help to have my accident the following week.

Basically it all depends on what kinda shape the person is in when they get clobbered with a chemical assault as to how the end results turn out. Meanwhile, you hospital people should be given something to lessen the hysteria and back a few screws off on the psychosomatic-o-meter. If the patients sense you all are scared to death it will just make them worse.

If you can't put a lid on it then everybody should be advised to stay home and have doctors start making house calls, and keep all of ya separated from everybody else, otherwise you're dealing with an exponential snowball.

My friend knows someone who lives down there and he also said it is much worse than we are hearing.

I used to live in P'Cola and Tampa and it IS worse than we are hearing.

Then concentrate on that instead of bashing me.

and that's the wonderful part about corporate greed and capitalism.
but that doesn't stop me from trying

and of course, the electricity is provided by....?

he sits on a bicycle with a generator connected to it, and wears a tin foil hat to tune in the station

I tend to either watch it online or bring up the Matchcast on FIFA's website. (I don't own a TV either....although I do have a fridge.... )

these people are irremedial morons.

the computer is made primarily of PLASTIC, a petroleum product.
The wiring in the computer and in your home is covered in PLASTIC

the energy is almost certainly provided by fossil fuels, but of course, the genius also pays for carbon offsets I'm sure so he think's he's "carbon neutral"

Okay, that was especially uncalled for. I was just stating how I watch the games.

Wow, you guys are awfully hateful. Mxyzptlk asked how you watch soccer without TV. I answered. I accept that I have hand in this petroleum shit, we all do. Get off your fuckin' high horse, please.

short, succinct and to the point.
kudos d9
i can take the blame too.
now if everyone else can throttle back a bit on the stick, shut off the AC for a couple hours a day, don't leave your lights on, recycle more (or just use less), compost, buy local (and in season) and on and on and on.........

jhc. how many times do we need to be told?????

much love pakazak - it's a long rode ahead, so we better get started now :-)

Got what he deserved. Should've come to America and be ignored. Well, it's an interesting world. If we deserved flying cars we would have flying cars. We must not deserve flying cars.

Howsomever, if we did have flying cars that would help with the landfills being stuffed problem. Personally, if I had my druthers I'd rather have a back pack than a flying car.

As long as Russia does it we can do it.

You're exactly right! I never bought into that "all life is interconnected" crap either! It's a big fallacy promoted by the instigator JanforGore. Significant numbers of acreage and life forms can go extinct yet before anyone should be raising red flags. As for the Gulf of Mehico it's only getting mere drops of oil for the full volume of water so the plants and the fishes will just hafta move over the Snowman is coming through hahahaha!!!

If your theory is correct about "mere drops of oil in a full volume of ocean" then explain to me what would happen if you or I swallowed or ingested a "mere drop" of let's say arsenic or mercury.... hmmm maybe you should give it a try and call me back in a few days. Toxic chemicals are just that and delicate eco-systems are just that. guess what, they mix like... water and oil.... Summer school is in, perhaps you should go back to 5th grade and take an earth science class...

I drank several 8-ounce glasses of water and a number cups of coffee at a truckstop that had diesel fuel draining over into their well water supply. Took a month to get over it but it was a sight bit more than a few drops.

Where I live there are many coal-fired power plants to the west of here so I get my share of mercury, and growing up we had glass insulation in the attic where I sometimes played, then later on we had that nice new asbestos siding put on the house and I watched the men sawing it.

If I can take it without a working thyroid then everybody else can. Class dismissed on YOU.

The Strong survive dude. I figured out how to stop cancers, in fact I've fought off 6 since 2004. A few were quite awesome but they fall to superior knowledge and a faith in God. You seem to not have much faith so yeah, I guess it's rough on you then. Whatever cancer seeds that got in me I killed em, killed em all sir.

Soldiers deserve soldiers. We who are about to live salute you.

It;s not an exaggeration to me. I don't need critiques on how I express myself here. Thank you.

I'm with you. Y'know, dangerous materials flowing endlessly into a fragile ecosystem, killing an economy, potentially endangering not only the animal kingdom but the human race itself....kinda big.

I'd say so, but it seems to be getting lost in all of the typical political partisan backbiting.

Oil hurricane + lighting = FIRE HURRICANE!

Lets just hope BP and the government will stop jacking off with their oil money and do something by then.

Of course, oil is a friction reducer, thus enabling higher wind rates. However, maybe it will reduce the wave activity. I am trying to find one glimmer of hope in this situation. (Wink)