The Story of Your Enslavement!!!

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Good comment , voted up !

That the greedy called themselves "capitalists" and that those who hate them also call them "capitalists" doesn't make it so, nor does it mean greed is an essential part of capitalism.

It is not. Greed is predation. Predation has nothing to do with genuine capitalism.

Capitalism is the free and fair trade of value for value. Greed is not fair trade ... nor is it particularly free for those being cheated.

In what alternate dimension would one find this"Capitalism" ?

you have no idea how many times it has been posted here . This exact video .

Well, I'm glad BRAVATRAVELS posted it again.

Thanks Leen61...

When I found the video because of my production class...

I didn't search current and said woooo let me see how many times has been posted...

I said I am glad I have a venue to spread the word....

I'm glad you spread the word, BRAVATRAVELS. I did not see this video before. I thought it had some very good points in it. I read "1984" and saw the movie "1984"--the one with John Hurt which the video showed snippets of. What I got most from the video was that people can be controlled....plain and simple.

LMAO... Love it!

Only if you haven't seen it 20 times .

Kubler-Ross five stages of grief, which begins with denial:

Denial (this isn't happening to me!)
Anger (why is this happening to me?)
Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if...)
Depression (I don't care anymore)
Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes)

I am not even closed to be a libertarian but the truth is the truth...

Whether or not you have the cognitive capability to recognize this as libertarian propaganda does not change the fact that it is libertarian propaganda.

I know.. you may think you know everything but let me decided for my self if I feel is a propaganda or not... After all we are entitled to our own opinion...Thanks for the comments

"The cognitive capability" ? really? jajajajjajajaajja

No, this isn't the libertarian party line - it's rantings of a cynical conspiracy theorist.

I had a thought provoking and intelligent Minister who did not believe in dogma and instead looked at the Earth, it's creatures and tried to educate people to look for the good in things and stand against the bigotry and violence of the past. For this he was stripped of his position, cast out and the community church, built by the families of local people who attended, was then forcibly shut by the Police at the bequest of those higher up.

That was my introduction to Christianity and how it treated those who dare believe in science and respect for all people. I think it's only fair that people are allowed to express their views after hearing all the hatred of gay, non-creationist or other religions spewed out by members of churches. I have met at least two people who practised what they preached, but many others seemed to think lying, stealing, cheating or mistreating others is completely compatible with calling yourself a Christian.

Once cultural beliefs developed with the surrounding environment in mind and offered lessons and techniques to help the less experienced avoid danger, temptation and also learn of knowledge that would aid in their survival. If such cultural beliefs are removed from the context they were developed within, they no longer make much sense.

Christianity wouldn't help someone who lives within the means of their environment. It wouldn't be of aid for finding water or identifying edible or toxic plants. It would not help preserve the ecosystem that sustains life. In fact the blood of Christ is a death sentence for many people with no previous exposure to alcohol, and a dark confronting concept hard to comprehend. This new religion replaced much of the culture which had served it's people well for many thousands of years, turning their world inside out, back to front and never to be found again. It is now seemingly impossible for these beautiful people to live in harmony with the land again as they once did, and may take hundreds or even thousands of years to rediscover lost knowledge when eventually it is needed again.

People once sought ideas to explain the world, and provide a set of standards to conform to. However values and morality are not a monopoly belonging to certain religious text. Take Uganda and the murdering of homosexual people at the hands of those corrupted by religion. For to take another's life, because they are different according to words on papers delivered by foreign fanatics, shows the damage that can still be wrought upon a people when mythology is treated as literal fact.

It is now accepted the Earth is not flat, so why not acknowledge the bible is an old and outdated text, with ideas that can be dangerous to your health. Like an outdated medical book, it has a place in our repositories of old belief, but to be used as a modern guide for living is a misplaced belief. Spare yourself from blood-letting or domination by the unscrupulous. Enjoy the stories, like many good books it has redeeming features and lessons can be learned, but it is not a book to be worshipped.

people are realizing the institutions of thousands of years ago are no longer relevant. Now is the time to create not the institutions, but the personal belief structures of each individual as we move forward as a species

Sorry T_T Do not put Science in the same category of a belief system... Sciences is base on facts,,, belief systems are feelings...
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Money too is a belief system . It is failing as we speak . Time for a new way of thinking , one based on resources that actually exist , like drinkable water , breathable air , good soil and clean seas for fish .

Science is constantly re testing and refining theories on new data . religions such as money and political ideologies , repeat failed cycles again and again . No comparison .

Ideally, but human beings are far from ideal. Scientific history (including modern) is filled with people who fanatically held to theories that the true objective science was strongly against because of their personal feelings/ego, etc.

I spent some time on science forums for a while and there were some real fanatical guys on there. Especially in the physics area, relativity was constantly a point of argument. Some individuals could not help but constantly argue new theories were wrong because they contradicted old theories. The idea that some established theories may be inaccurate or may not apply under certain conditions was often met with contempt. I came across at least one member you could say believed certain things with a religious like further and would not consider any other theory that emerged. I liked stirring people like that up by inventing the most absurd theory, making sure that it undermined relativity. Hook, line and neutrino, then watch the sparks fly.

However those outside religions rarely murder their detractors as religions have and do-------

I always remember this quote when debating about science....

"A fact is a simple statement that everyone believes. It is innocent, unless found guilty. A hypothesis is a novel suggestion that no one wants to believe. It is guilty, until found effective."
-Edward Teller

Might want to say "Western religion", where I agree 100%, but you know you just don't find remotely the level of killing with Eastern religions. Buddhists aren't out there waging jihads. My whole point is fanaticism is fanaticism regardless of labels. I know the psychology of this, it is basic to humanity it is based at it's core on death and the repression of death. People need something larger then themselves to more or less "worship". religions, particular ideas, ideologies are -very- popular (we of course see that on these forums)! People attach themselves to these things with a absolute fundamentalist devotion (that's the whole point, giving oneself to "something larger" and "infallible", absolute). As for your statement "However those outside religions rarely murder their detractors as religions have and do-------" well I would say ideologies, yes that's right there, the endless wars we have today are exactly that, 1 particular political religion trying to kill another. Neocon ideology against whatever you want to call what Iraq was.

Yes Perfect. Can't add anything to that.

Now that sounds like a real plan to cure what ails us.

worth a try ...

It's been pointed out from time to time that humanities very strong hierarchical tendencies coupled with intelligence will ultimately be the source of humanities destruction. We can certainly see endless examples of this, when truly -evil- people hold power, various dictators immediately come to mind. How do they hold power and control? People bow to them as "authority figures". If Hitlers close associates had just said No, for instance, or Stalin's, etc. I frankly hope a way is found to remove this strong tendency from humanity through biotechnology sooner rather then later. Technology becomes cheaper and more powerful day by day, smaller and smaller groups of crazies have access to greater and greater power that just isn't good.

So , you can think of a lateral power structure that was corrupted ? I would surely like to know about this ! Hierarchical = NOT lateral . Do you think it is worth a try ?

I was not commenting on lateral structures, but what you called "pyramid" (hierarchical), although I imagine lateral would still be subject to hierarchical thinking to a much lesser extent.

My original comment , that you responded to was about lateral power structures . I am curious to know , How easily would it be for wikipedia (lateral power structure) to be corrupted and STAY that way in you opinion ?

No idea, I don't know anything about the details of how wikipedia operates.

Not even curious ?

Lithuania, I think, has a system where the citizens can vote on issues before parliament online. They have elected representatives who conduct debating and introduction of legislation while connected online and the public gets a chance to vote on changes to law and introduction of new policy. This system seems to work quite well for them and it would be easy to trial in other existing systems. Such a system would allow people to be more informed about changes taking place to their laws and participate in ensuring it is of benefit to everyone.

This is very interesting , i will check it out ! Thanks for the tip ... There is much to be learned .

I am glad I was able to provided you with More pennies...

Thanks for the comments....)0(

you could buy pizza ...

Yeah , wearisome , huh .