Prince's door-to-door preaching shocks fans

stop lying. you don't know these people personally.

that fine too with all Witnesses especially since they don't preach "at" anyone.

get a dictionary and stop hating.

May you know that he started sudying (after) he became a celebrity, therefore he already had all his riches and material things that came along with his life style. But as he learns the principle that is taught of humilty and leading a simple life, it becomes his decision whether he will or not. They encourage on leading a simple life, they encourage people to learn, they encourage others to change their lives. They never pressure, they suggest and encourage. They are just delivering a message that God has sent them to deliver. Meeting are 5 times a week, but it's a couple of meeting in a day and three in another. And the reason they don't associate with worldly people is because worldly people may not share the same values and morals as they do and have been taught, which by the way, is another decision that they personally make, but are encouraged to avoid. So for you to say that there's hypocracy in the religion is really ignorant of you. Maybe if you knew the scriptures that support the things they do, then maybe you would appreciate it more. But if you don't, please don't sit here and judge and presume things about them, just like you wouldn't want them to come and judge and presume things about you.. Thank you.

first off, i am not judging prince. second, you can moan and wail all you want. what i stated is fact. if you dont like the facts....i really dont get your viewpoint anyway. either youre a jw, or you really like prince. if you are an athiest, and you are concerned about the issue, maybe you should do your homework. as i said, those are facts about that religion, and if youre not just talking out your ass and you really want to debate this we can. otherwise you can respect what i post and i will do the same for you.

To be honest I wasn’t even addressing you, but sense you’ve taken the time to reply to my post then I guess I will “debate” what little there is.

“this religion is a cult, that’s a fact you can not dispute.”

Religious cult carries an ugly connotation that can be applied to any form of organized religious based on your criteria.

Voluntary donations

Belief as the only true religion

Ownership of land (in your case Brooklyn heights)

Multi -million corporation (which is a distortion. You cannot be a tax exempt religious organization and a for profit corporation at the same time.

“Hidden things” (care to give an example?)

blood transfusion (So for Catholics it’s a sin to use contraceptives yet they still do. The same applies for JW’s and the whole blood transfusion issue.)

this is a very dangerous religion and has torn apart thousands of families. ( lots of things tear families apart, like judgmental people, or prejudices.)

“you can moan and wail all you want”

Well you can be a douche all you want but it still does nothing for your argument.

ok ricky84. i have respected more than one of your comments previous. again i dont know your hang up on this issue as you have not revealed yourself.

land ownership, its a fact that they tell parishoners contributions to support "the work" comes from voluntary donations. they do not tell them that they are leasing out luxury apartments for millions of dollars a year in brooklyn.

they do preach and believe they are the only true religion. do you wish to present facts that they do not?

heres the point. a cult carries on a clandestine existance. they continuously "admonish" parishoners to avoid the internet and not listen to anyone who says anything contrary to their teachings.

i feel that you are caught up in some prideful grandstanding here and, i will not apologize, you need to stand down. you have made no factual claims-if you were not responding to me you should have left it at that-but you accepted my challenge and now you have shown yourself inadequate in fact, experience, and logic. reasoning on your part has not come to the fore.

it is a cult, a danger to society. if you wish, tomorrow, you will see at least 5 postings on this website to prove this fact. you will suffer humiliation and lose this, but we can go forward if you wish, or you can stand down. what will it be? no answer will be taken as a forfiet. you are a smart guy, ill give you that. but you are wrong about this and you are in way over your head.

Prideful grandstanding,

An appeal for me to stand down from my position…

Wow Globe you should stop and think about my “position” for a moment, or at the very least how your interpretation of my position affects your ability to reason and to have an even handed discussion. The core of my beliefs revolve around a concept of individualism. Humans are not groups and mindsets are not shared or interchangeable among those, who through self identification or the observations of a third party, belong to a particular group.

That being said its pretty much impossible to argue against my “position” by claiming a particular form of organized religion is a cult. By your reasoning all forms of organized religion is a cult and therefore everyone who belongs to this “cult” is evil, or crazy or just plain bad. This type of rigid belief structure is identical to what you will find in any form of organized religion or spirituality.

“i feel that you are caught up in some prideful grandstanding here and, i will not apologize, you need to stand down. you have made no factual claims”

Of course. Unlike you I refuse to look at a collection of individuals and judge them as a group. I also refuse to waste my time trying to convince you that your wrong. I don’t have that power. If you want to look at an individual and judge them based on a label so be it.

all religions are cults. look up the word.

they usually welcome it.

huh.

my IQ is 155, does that mean I am a loon?

let me tell you something, no certified genius can
be religious, the two are like water and oil.

geniuses understand the difference between all religions.
we understand why there is religion.
we understand why people believe the lies of religion.
we understand why wars are fought over religion.

none of us can actually believe one religion over the
other, we see all the lies and the little truths that each
religion has to offer.

So if you are a genius, why would you entertain such a comment? Its not how sharp the sword is, but how you wield it.

My grandfather was possibly the smartest man I have ever met- a member of MENSA, knew 8 languages, was a pilot, a lawyer, learned how to use and repair computers as a hobby when he turned 65.He was also the most catholic, god fearing man I have ever met.

You're painting with a mighty broad brush there Mr. Genius.

Genius and insanity are only a hair's breadth apart, they often are inseparably welded together.

Oh, and it is my wide and long experience that the overwhelming majority of those who publicly boast having IQs of 130 or higher are in fact lying about this and usually have a much, much lower IQ than they claim to have.

well, mines 127 and...mr. rah, the romans continually sharpened their swords in their marching from country to country and this proved very effective in their battles as they were victorious in many.

intelligence is a curse.... you are correct. as iq heightens your ability to interact on a personal level decreases. you have an inexplicable grasp on some intellectual aspects, but lack the apptitude to deal with mankind on a personal level.

you call being religious having a soul?

seriously?

huh...

not me buddy.
I call it being stupid, being willing to be lied to,
and being unable to understand truth in life.

different strokes I guess.

There is a difference between religion and spirituality. Religion is the mask which evil hides behind, making false idols and men their own gods. Spirituality is the path to true enlightenment and the True God.

Artists are their own religion.
*snap*

Prince HAS been lied to. He just doesn't realize it yet.

hey neo, guess what? jehovahs witnesses actually preach that the soul as accepted by most christians, does not exist. they believe the soul is the life force, your life. your living existance. so it dies when you do. ask prince when he comes to your door.