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Jonathan Dimbleby's book:

THE PALESTINIANS

ISBN: 0704322560
ISBN-13: 9780704322561
Format: Hardcover, 256pp
Publisher: Quartet Books, Limited



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On page 67 it says that

in 1917 there were about 57,000 jews in Palestine (the year of the Balfour Decleration) whch amounted to 9.7% of the population.
In 1936 there were 384,000 jews in Palestine, amounting to almost 30% of the population - an unprecedented increase in the history of settlement. To the Palestinians, it seemed evident that, while the politicians offered them bland words of reassurance, the immigrants would continue to arrive in ever greater numbers until Palestine was in their hands.

Although the ambiguity which had characterized the public utterances of Zionist spokesmen before the Balfour Declaration persisted, it became steadily easier to read between the lines and detect the purpose: if the Zionists were to be believed, then the Palestinians were right to be fearful. Indeed, as early as 1921 men like Dr. Eder, the acting chairman of the Zionist Commission, had been quite blunt, statinf before a British Commission of Enquiry with a candour which deeply impressed the British that:
There can only be one National Home in Palestine, and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership between jews and Arabs, but a Jewish predominance as soon as the numbers of the race are sufficiently increased.







Jonathan Dimbleby is the presenter of BBC Radio 4's flagship programme of topical debate Any Questions? and its twin phone-in programme Any Answers?. He has presented ITV's flagship weekly political programme, Jonathan Dimbleby until the show ended on May 7th 2006. He is also ITV's anchorman on every General election night since 1997.He has written a number of best-selling books: RICHARD DIMBLEBY; THE PALESTINIANS, THE PRINCE OF WALES and THE LAST
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  • Highr0ller
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      The Jewish dead cannot be brought back to life and neither can the Palestinian massacred be resurrected.David Ben Gurion said, "Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves… politically, we are the aggressors and they defend themselves.. .The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country…".
      Palestine is a land that has been occupied and emptied of its people. Its cultural and physical landmarks have been obliterated and replaced by tidy Hebrew signs. The history of a people was the first thing eradicated by the occupiers. The history of the indigenous people has been all but eradicated as though they never existed. And all this has been hailed by the world as a miraculous act of God. We must recognise that Israel 's existence is not even a question of legality so much as it is an illegal fait accompli realised through the use of force while supported by the Western powers. The UN missions directed at Israel in attempting to correct its violations of have thus far been futile.

    • 3 years ago
  • kittyomally
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    • Highr0ller:

      That's how you conquer, you eradicate your enemies language, culture and faith, until there is nothing left. It happened to the Irish catholics, the people of Africa that were forced onto the boats of slavery, and Native Americans. And it will keep going until people of enlightenment make a stand against it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • Where are the Jews of conscience? No righteous malice can be held against the survivors of Hitler's holocaust. These fragments of humanity were in no position to make choices beyond that of personal survival. We must not forget that being a survivor or a co-religionist of the victims of the European Holocaust does not grant dispensation from abiding by the rules of humanity.
      "Never again" as a motto, rings hollow when it means "never again to us alone." My generation was raised being led to believe that the biblical land was a vast desert inhabited by a handful of impoverished Palestinians living with their camels and eking out a living in the sand. The arrival of the Jews was touted as a tremendous benefit to these desert dwellers. Golda Meir even assured us that there "is no Palestinian problem".
      We know now this picture wasn't as it was painted. Palestine was a land filled with people who called it home. There were thriving towns and villages, schools and hospitals. There were Jews, Christians and Muslims.
      In fact, prior to the occupation, Jews represented a mere seven per cent of the population and owned three per cent of the land.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • "The [Jewish] children of Hebron are just like Hitler's youth."

      I've talked with Palestinians. I have yet to meet a Palestinian who hasn't lost a member of their family to the Israeli Shoah, nor a Palestinian who cannot name a relative or friend languishing under inhumane conditionsin an Israeli prison. Time and time again, Israel is cited for human rights violations to no avail. On a recent trip to Israel , I visited the refugee camps inhabited by a people who have waited 52 years in these 'temporary' camps to go home. Every Palestinian grandparent can tell you the name of their village, their street, and where the olive trees were planted. Their grandchildren may never have been home, but they can tell you where their great-grandfather lies buried and where the village well stood. The press has fostered the portrait of the Palestinian terrorist. But the victims who rose up against human indignity in the Warsaw Ghetto are called heroes. Those who lost their lives are called martyrs. The Palestinian who tosses a rock in desperation is a terrorist.
      Two years ago I drove through Palestine and watched intricate sprinkler systems watering lush green lawns of Zionist settlers in their new condominium complexes, surrounded by armed guards and barbed wire in the midst of a Palestinian community where there was not adequate water to drink and the surrounding fields were sandy and dry. University professor Moshe Zimmerman reported in the Jerusalem Post (30 April, 1995), "The [Jewish] children of Hebron are just like Hitler's youth."

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • This is how they are.
      Cruel hard people. They have little respect for anyone who is not Jewish.

      Do you all realise that EVERY PERSON in Israel is in the army. The RESERVISTS have a code and they have to listen to the radio and they hear their call up, or they get it by text message.

      Their women are tough too.

    • 3 years ago
  • capt_ayhab
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      http://current.com/items/89817104/israel_learns_of_a_hidden_shame.htm

      She was forced into a patrol vehicle with several soldiers, two carrying shovels, and they drove off into the dunes. When the girl realised what was about to happen she tried to run, but only made it a few paces before she was shot by a Sergeant Michael.

      Her body was buried in a grave less than a foot deep.

      A few days later the battalion commander, Yehuda Drexler, asked Moshe if he had carried out an order to return the girl to her village.

      "They killed her," replied Moshe. "It was a shame to waste the petrol." He was ordered to write a report. Ha'aretz has obtained a copy.

      It said: "In my patrol on 12.8.49 I encountered Arabs in the territory under my command, one of them armed. I killed the armed Arab on the spot and took his weapon. I took the Arab female captive. On the first night the soldiers abused her and the next day I saw fit to remove her from the world."

      He and most of the soldiers at the outpost were tried in secret. Some said they were carrying out their commander's orders. The military judges rejected that line of defense. Moshe denied rape. "Morally speaking, it was impossible to sleep with such a dirty girl," he told the court.

      He was acquitted of rape but convicted of murder and sentenced to 15 years in prison. The judges likened his stated willingness "to murder even women and children in cold blood" to "Hitler's methods in France".

      Nineteen other soldiers received light sentences of between one and three years, mostly for "negligence in preventing a crime".

      The appeal court reduced their sentences, saying: "At the time there was a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs ... and sometimes wanton events occurred in this sphere. All this helped create an atmosphere of 'anything goes'.

      "We are convinced that this atmosphere existed at the Nirim outpost, too."

      But the government and army understood the shame that would fall on the armed forces if the girl's fate became known to wider Israeli society, so the murder and trial were classified as secret.

      The case was briefly resurrected at the trial in 1956 of Israeli soldiers and police officers who murdered 43 Arab civilians in Kafr Qassem, to help establish the precedent that there is no defence in obeying illegal orders.

      Then it disappeared from view again.

      Several years later members of a kibbutz near the Nirim base noticed that the wind had uncovered a small hand.

    • 3 years ago
  • Bren589
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    • capt_ayhab:

      This just sickens me . How could they do that and get by with it.I hope they all rot in hell . I can only imagine what that poor girl went through, those bastards all need to pay. One day they will , when they stand before God , He will have his day and justice will be served and no one can get out of it then. May she rest in peace along with so many others that have been murdered. Peace

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    • http://current.com/items/89817104/israel_learns_of_a_hidden_shame.htm

      For 54 years the fate of a young Bedouin girl who disappeared in the Negev desert was relegated to rumour and a single entry in the diary of David Ben-Gurion, the prime minister of the fledgling Israeli state.

      "It was decided and carried out: they washed her, cut her hair, raped her and killed her," he wrote.

      After that the case became one of the state's earliest secrets, and no more than hearsay passed between soldiers.

      Now
      the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz has used previously classified army
      documents to reveal the full story of what Mr Ben-Gurion called a
      "horrific atrocity".

      In August 1949, an army unit stationed at
      Nirim in the Negev shot an Arab man and captured a Bedouin girl with him. Her name and age remain unknown, but she was probably in her mid-teens.

      In the following hours she was taken from the hut
      and forced to shower naked in full view of the soldiers. Three of the men then raped her.

      After the Sabbath meal the platoon commander, identified by Ha'aretz as a man called Moshe who had served in the British army during the second world war, proposed a vote on what should be done with her.

      One option was to put her to work in the outpost's kitchen.

      Most of the 20 or so soldiers present voted for the alternative by chanting: "We want to fuck". The commander organized a rota for groups of his men to gang rape the girl over the next three days. Moshe and one of his sergeants went first, leaving the girl unconscious. Next morning, she complicated matters by protesting about her treatment. Moshe told one of his sergeants to kill her.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • fINALLY A LIGHTHEARTED NOTE:

      Head Quarters-office
      under the rubbles of Gaza-City
      3rd. street left to the 2nd. Avenue
      behind all the burned school
      Gazza the liberated....
      Announcement
      of delay
      we regret to announce an unforeseen delay in releasing
      that mini-War-Criminal-Israeli-soldier
      Mr. Gilad Shalit ,
      in exchange for
      hundreds of innocent-Palestinian-hostages.
      the circumstances of this delay
      are beyond our control
      and yet we ask for apologies.
      It came to our attention that Mr. Gilad Shalit
      has been hit by some Phosphoric bombs
      thrown at us by some barbaric-army , lately ..
      Gilad is been treated now to cure his
      constant-and-permanent-burning-wounds
      but the delay is actually to be blamed on
      the Regime of Mubarak which is not allowing
      the medicament's to enter at the borders,
      so we are using the tunnels , which takes longer
      and of course , cost us more.
      As soon as those medicament's will reach us
      and as soon as Olmert will be ready to talk
      to smaller Terrorists , than he actualy is ,
      we shall, naturally and immediately release Gilat Shalit
      Signed :
      THUGS
      The rightful Terrorists
      defending their own country
      from the bigger-unrightful-Terrorists

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  • Highr0ller
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    • Fearing a One-State Solution, Israel’s President Serves Pabulum to Washington

      By Franklin Lamb

      Whatever will happen in the future, we shall not repeat the mistakes we made in leaving Gaza.

      – Shimon Peres to members of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations 2/18/09

      You take my water. Burn my Olive Trees. Destroy my house. Take my job. Steal my Land. Imprison my Mother. Bomb my country. Starve us all. Humiliate us all. But I am to blame: I shot a rocket back.

      – Sign carried near Hyde Park Corner during a demonstration in London on 2/15/09 by a Member of the British Parliament

      February 20, 2009 "Dissident Voice" -- Ain el Helwe Palestinian Refugee Camp, Sidon, Lebanon — Israeli President Shimon Peres has participated in shaping the policies of Israel for most of its existence. His Washington Post op-ed last week billed as “a peacepartners prod” to the Obama administration, evidences a major disconnect within the government of Israel concerning what is urgently required for that country’s increasingly unlikely long-term survival.

      According to a CIA Study currently being shown to selected staff members on the US Senate Intelligence Committee and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Israel’s survival in its present form beyond the next 20 years is doubtful.

      The Report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”

      To President Peres’ chagrin, the Executive Summary states that “during the next fifteen years more than two million Israelis, including some 500,000 Israeli citizens who currently hold US green cards or passports, will move to the United States. Mos..........

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • Israel is a Terrorist State by Definition: Chomsky

      Following is an excerpt of Professor Chomsky’s interview with Christiana Voniati, who is head of International News Department POLITIS Newspaper, Nicosia, Cyprus.

      By Christiana Voniati

      February 21, 2009 "Countercurrents" -- Voniati: The international public opinion and especially the Muslim world seem to have great expectations from the historic election of Obama. Can we, in your opinion, expect any real change regarding the US approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

      Chomsky: Not much. Quite the contrary: it may be harsher than before. In the case of Gaza, Obama maintained silence, he didn’t say a word. He said well there’s only one president so I can’t talk about it. Of course he was talking about a lot of other things but he chose not to talk about this. His campaign did repeat a statement that he had made while visiting Israel six months earlier –he had visited Sderot where the rockets hit- and he said “if this where happening to my daughters, I wouldn’t think of any reaction as legitimate”, but he couldn’t say anything about Palestinian children. Now, the attack on Gaza was at time so that it ended right before the inauguration, which is what I expected. I presume that the point was so that they could make sure that Obama didn’t have to say something, so he didn’t. And then he gave his first foreign policy declaration, it was a couple of days later when he appointed George Mitchell as his emissary, and he said nothing about Gaza except that “our paramount interest is preserving the security of Israel”. Palestine apparently doesn’t have any requirement of security. And then in his declaration he said of course we are not going to deal with Hamas -the elected government the US immediately, as soon as the government was elected in a free election the US and Israel with the help of European Union immediately started severely punishing the Palestinian population for voting in the “wrong way” in a free election and that’s what we mean by democracy. The only substantive comment he made in the declaration was to say that the arab peace plan had constructive elements, because it called for a normalization of relations with Israel and he urged the arab states to proceed with the normalization of relations. Now, he is an intelligent person, he knows that that was not what the arab peace plan said. The arab peace plan called for a two state settlement on the international border that is in accord with the long standing international consensus that the US has blocked for over 30 years and in that context of the two state settlement we should even proceed further and move towards a normalization of relations with Israel. Well, Obama carefully excluded the main content about the two state settlement and just talked about the corollary, for which a two state settlement is a precondition. Now that’s not an oversight, it can’t be. That’s a careful wording, sending the message that we are not going to change their (Israel’s) rejectionist policy. We ‘ll continue to be opposed to the international consensus on this issue, and everything else he said accords with it. We will continue in other words to support Israel’s settlement policies- those policies are undermining any possible opportunity or hope for a viable Palestinian entity of some kind. And it’s a continued reliance on force in both parts of occupied Palestine. That’s the only conclusion you could draw.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • Cost on Gaza infrastructure of Israeli bombardment put at $1.1bn
      Published: 22 January 2009 15:37 GMTAuthor: Hugh Tomlinson More by this AuthorLast Updated: 22 January 2009 18:53
      The cost in direct loss of infrastructure from the recent Israeli military campaign in Gaza has been placed at $1.1bn.
      Figures released by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) place the cost in destroyed housing throughout Gaza at $200m, while the estimated cost of clearing up the debris is $600m.
      Around 4,000 buildings have been destroyed in Gaza, while another 20,000 have been severely damaged. Some 50,000 Gazans have been left homeless by the fighting and 400,000 do not have running water.
      The PCBS says the Gazan economy is losing almost $4m a day as a result of the damage.
      Over 1,300 Palestinians died in the three-week campaign, while 13 Israelis were killed.
      Author: Hugh Tomlinson. Senior Reporter
      London

    • 3 years ago
  • Bren589
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    • Highr0ller:

      Israel and America should be the ones to pay out money to rebuild Gaza , they destroyed it . they caused chaos , they coomitted war crimes, and by god they should be made o pay for what they destroyed ,

    • 3 years ago
  • Bren589
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    • krutboo Its not that he does not hate the Jews. Highroller is just trying to show people the truth so get over it. Thank you Highroller.
      WPTV may your brother rest in peace.. We miss you here , Hurry back. Love & Peace to all

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    • Robert Fisk: In 1948 when the Palestinians fled or were driven from their homes - 750,000 is the figure widely accepted - those in the north in the Galilee area of what became Israel fled into Lebanon, those in the Jerusalem area fled east toward what we now call the West Bank, those in the south fled into what we now call the Gaza Strip.

      For example, in 2000, after the Israelis finished their final withdrawal after 22 years of occupation and went across the border back into Israel, many Palestinians in Lebanon went down to the border and looked across, not because they were looking at northern Israel but because they were looking at the northern part of Palestine as they had known it - some could actually see the villages that their parents or grandparents had come from in 1948.

      So there is this whole diaspora around the state of Israel who can't go home because their home is on the other side of the border. This reality revolves around the whole issue of UN General Assembly Resolution 194 on the right of return, [which stipulates that] these Palestinian refugees have the right to return to their homes.

      Well over half the people living in Gaza are families, either survivors or descendants of Palestinians, who lived only 10 or 12 miles into what is today Israel. So when you hear the Israelis say the terrorists are firing rockets into Israel, the Palestinians in Gaza can say in many cases, "Well, my grandson is firing a rocket at my town because before 1948 these areas would have been Palestinian property."

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    • PAGE 9 .

      THE PALESTINIANS

      By
      JONATHAN DIMBLEBY

      ''To pay attention to Palestinian accounts of their own history, to record the impact upon them of the rise of Zionism, to relate their stories of the exodus, the exile and the resurgence - is for the reporter To isk finding himself in the dock, charged by an articulate lobby with being an enemy of the people of Israel, if not an anti-Semitic racist.
      The charge is pressed with a noisy vehemence, reinforced - for lack of evidence - by a particularly virulent form of moral blackmail which invites public opinion to perceive Zionism in terms of the Holocaust, filtering the facts of the Middle East through the tears of disgust, outrage and guilt which the bestialities of Nazism arouse in all civilized men

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    • On the 10th. April 1948, the head of the International Red Cross delegation in Palestine drove into a small Arab village outside Jerasulem. He was met by a detachment of a Jewish organisation called the Irgun.

      ''All of them were young, some even adolescents, men and women armed to the teeth: revolvers, machine-guns, hand-grenades, and also cutlasses in their hands, most of them still blood stained. A beautiful young girl with criminal eyes,showed me hers still dripping with blood; she displayed it like a trophy.'

      It is always dangerous to stumble upon an atrocity. Jacques de Reynier was fortunate to emerge alive with his official Red Cross report of what happened the previous night in the village of Deir Yassin.

      ''I found some bodies cold. Here the 'cleaning up' had been done with machine-guns, then hand-grenades. It had been finished off with knives, anyone could see that. The same thing in the next room, but as I was about to leave, I heard something like a sigh. I looked everywhere, turned over all the bodies, and eventually found a litle foot, still warm. It was a little girl of ten, mutilated by a hand-grenade, but still alive....everywhere it was the same horrible sight.''

      Altogether 250 men, women and children hd been butchered to death. The survivors, at the point of hysterical collapse from shock and grief, recorded their hideous experience for the British authorities: families had been lined up and shot down in a barrage of machine-gun fire; young girls raped; a pregnant mother was first slaughtered and then had her stomach cut open by her murderer with a butcher's knife; a girl who tried to remove the unborn child from the woman's womb was shot down Some of the Irgun fighters slashed their victims to pieces with cutlasses. All of this was meticioiusly recorded by the British authorities, even to the detail observed by Assistant-General Richard Cutling, the British interrogating officer, that ; 'women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers, and parts of some of the women's ears were severed in order to remove ear-rings.'

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    • The report of the Peel Commission was published in July 1937 - ''The situation in Palestine has reached dead-lock. We cannot - in Palestine as it is now - both concede the Arab claim to self-government and secure the establishment of the Jewish national home''.

      Twenty years on - and twenty years too late - the self-contradiction contained in the Balfour Declaration was at last openly acknowledged. But if the Mandate was unworkable, what was the alternative? To the astonished horror of the Palestinians, the commission made the fateful suggestion that their country be divided. Although the Jewish sector owned only 5% of the land, the Peel Commission proposed that almost half Palestine should be handed over to a Jewish state., from which - if necessary - the Arab population, which would number more than 200,000 people, was to be forcibly transferred into the Arab Palestinian state to be established in the other half of Palestine.

      The proposed Jewish state was too small to meet the aspirations of Zionism, with the consequence that its leaders were ambivalent about the Peel Commission. The Palestinians, on the other hand, facing the dismemberment of their country, re-loaded their rifles and came down from the hills to fight to the end.

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  • Highr0ller
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    • Jonathan Dimbleby book continued:

      PAGE 68

      There was no place for the Palestinians: the Jews did not need the Arabs. Not only did the Zionists speak their own language, follow their own separate faith and enjoy a different culture, but they also insulated themselves from the Arab world in every way possible. They formed their own industries, trade unions, banks, schools, hospitals - and from all of these Palestinians were carefully excluded. When the Jewish Agency bought Arab land, the new settlers to whom it was bequeathed expelled the Arab families who had farmed it for generations, thus depriving them of their means of subsistence. The Histradruth ( the Zionist trade union) forbade Arabs to join, and picketed any Jewish employer who took on Arab labor. These employers who persisted were branded as traitors.

      The leader of the aggressively exclusive Histradruth wasDAVID BEN GURION.

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    • Jonathan Dimbleby's book continued:

      Arab frustration erupted...................the Palestinians killed some 200 jews, and suffered in consequence 120 casualties among their own people. Arab atrocity begat jewish revenge. Innocents - women and children among them - were clubbed, stabbed and beaten to death in a frenzy of atavistic bloodletting..........The British Enquiry understood, and offered its conclusion that indeed it was fear and hated of Zionist immigration which was the root cause.

      As the rate of immigration increased, so did the fear. It was not simply a matter of numbers but of purpose. In 1035 the British High Commissioner for Palestine, recognizing what was happening, wrote to the Colonial Secretary at Westminister of: '....a genuine feeling of fear that the jews will succeed in establishing themselves in such large numbers that in the not too distant future that they will gain economic and political control of the country'.

    • 3 years ago
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