Music | April 15, 2009 | 29 comments

Where are the women on hip hop's "Most Hip Hop" list?

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It's been 30 years since the Sugarhill Gang released "Rapper's Delight", which is widely considered the original hip hop song. So to commemorate this milestone, BBC's 1Xtra and Radio 1 pulled together a panel of 50 hip hop DJs, writers, aficionados and artists (including include Dizzee Rascal, Rick Ross, Busta Rhymes, Zane Lowe, and Tim Westwood) to vote for their favourite "most hip hop people" ever. They then compiled the ultimate top 30 list which is totally hip hop, but, as the ladies over at Bitch Buzz have pointed out, it's lacking mention of ANY female hip hop artists... or women at all! What up with that? Considering there's room for Barack Obama (arguably hip hop, but not as an artist), why not room for some hip hop mamas that made huge contributions to hip hop's cultural history? Essentially these experts are just reinforcing the misogynistic record associated with the genre -- they seem to suggest that there's no room in hip hop for women. I beg to differ!

Here's a list of women that Bitch Buzz thinks should be included (and I second their opinions):

1) Why not consider Sylvia Robinson, who put the Sugarhill Gang together and ran Sugarhill Records, the label that… oh snap, put out Rapper’s Delight?

2) Missy Elliott? I mean seriously, come on!

3) Mary J Blige

4) Foxy Brown

5) Queen Latifah

6) Eve

7) Sister Soulja

8) Gwendolyn Pough (author of some stellar books on hip hop and feminism – try Check It While I Wreck It)

9) Jessica Care Moore (hip hop poet extraordinaire who has worked with most of 1Xtra’s top 10)

10) Angie Stone
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29 comments // Where are the women on hip hop's "Most Hip Hop" list?

  • Chango2000
  • Mister_Lackner
  • putyourtoysaway
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      putyourtoysaway  
    • well im not100 % on some of the people on that panel but i am positive that rick ross does not have proper credentials to be there...

      Where is Bahamadia!! spits hot fiyaaa mon

    • 3 years ago
  • CroatianPimp
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      CroatianPimp  
    • KUZ RAP N HIP HOP AINT DA SAME NO MORE REAL FEMALE RAPPERS R

      LEZ MONE
      SYLK E. FYNE
      380 DAT LADY
      QUEEN LATIFAH

      MARY J BLIGE N ALL DAT CRAP AINT HIP-HOP ITS R&B DURRRR

    • 3 years ago
  • Mikeysfake1
  • AmourTerreux
  • Anthm
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      Anthm  
    • Sadly ladies will never get the credit they deserve... save maybe lauryn hill... even she has fallen out of the limelight (for her own reasons) and allowed hip hop to remain a "boys club".

      This is not sexist, but women have not had the same impact as the men. And while some of the women are better than the men (yes fellas they are) they have failed to make ground breaking music in general... yes Ms. Hill and M.I.A are examples on the contrary but name more... the Brat was big, where'd she go? now she drops her pants at shows... nice. There's a list Bahamida Medusa Lefteye was an amazing mc... but they just fall short as they are compared to men... it happens all the time... ie.. Candace Parker vs... hell even Tony Parker... who's bigger and better?

      Hip hop isn't the same as it was before, it was more powerful in the 90's because it was real and less processed... think 80's and 90's hip hop as steak... and current hip hop like McDonald's... sadly it's only approriate that the women take a back seat role again... ladies don't be offended it's not like hip hop is honestly doing big things... why else would the most anticapated album be one that's been 8-9 years in the making (Detox)...

      hip hop isn't the same, so sadly don't expect props to be so PC....

      hip hop isn't what is used to be.. so don't be suprised when it's journalist make lists that don't make sense

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  
    • Well everyone pretty much said what I wanted to say and listed all the artists I wouldve included (although lets hear it for Blondie and paving the way for hip hop!)

      Yes the hip hop industry is predominately male, but that doesnt mean that the women who have had a huge impact should just be brushed aside!

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • The thing is, that I'm noticing at least, is that rap does not equal hip hop. Hip Hop is a culture which includes rap among other things such as b-boys and b-girls, DJing, and graffiti. You can even throw fashion in there.

      So this list really should be Best rappers or something similar because it's really not encompassing "Most Hip Hop". If it did, it'd feature breakdance crews, Kimora Lee Simmons and her Baby Phat line, etc. So even though MJB sings R&B or people throw James Brown in the mix, people recognize that they have given to and taken from Hip Hop.

      That's why I feel that it shouldn't have been a problem to shine the light on females in Hip Hop because, although there may not be a lot of women MCs, there are definitely a lot of women in the game.

    • 3 years ago
  • catchiecoo
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • Please don't call Rapper's Delight the "Original Hip Hop Song." They ripped off of so many people for that track it makes my head spin.

      As for these female hip hop artists, I imagine they were left off the list because they're bad rappers. I don't mean to make the distinction between male and female here, mainstream rappers are just terrible all around.

      It's a man's genre.

    • 3 years ago
  • St_Alia_10191
  • Mr_T
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      Mr_T  
    • thing is if you had Rock's Most Rock list the majority would be men too. Or Indie's Most Indie.
      Even in punk where women were meant to have a more equal footing, the majority of the list would still be men.
      Or if you did a list of Dance/Electronic artists the majority would still be men probably.
      I don't know a lot about these areas of music, but i bet even if you did a list of Jazz or Country or anything, even though these areas have some BIG players that are women, men would still make up the vast majority.

      I don't think it's hip hop that's in itself sexist. I think there's sexist elements within certain parts of it's culture but that's prevalent throughout a lot of society. As Pardon said, even in business.
      I think a lot of women musical artists regardless of genre don't get the support they deserve and definitely don't get as much media coverage they deserve unless they are 'hot' and they can be marketed as a sexual product. (some still manage though thank god)

    • 3 years ago
  • Mister_Lackner
  • Skyscraper08
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      Skyscraper08  
    • Lil Kim?

      She took hardcore to the next level, simple and plain (or maybe not so plain ;) haha) but anywho... she could definitely hold her own on the mic, on stage and she did her thing alongside Biggie, Jay-Z etc.

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • OH yes Shane!!! Lauryn Hill is someone who cannot be easily forgotten!

      And what about Left Eye or the whole TLC group for that matter? I know they influenced me a lot as a kid and from them I always felt I could do anything. So did Ladybug of Digable Planets. When "Rebirth of Slick" first hit the airwaves, I was so excited to hear a female's voice. I begged my parents to get me that album.

      M.I.A. is a great example of someone who took hip-hop to a whole other level and seems to be paving a way for other alt hip-hop ladies like Santogold (or Santigold now), Rye Rye, and Ebony Bones.

      I'm going to agree with aljones when I say when hip-hop comes to mind I don't immediately think women but when I really consider hip-hop and consider my favorites, these women come out on top.

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  
    • MornRail:

      Oh Im so glad you mentioned Rye Rye!! I think shes definitely going to be a major player in the hip hop world. So immensely talented and at such a young age!

      Also Cherry who was on tour with MIA and Rye Rye last year is equally amazing.

    • 3 years ago
  • joshuaheller
  • shanegregory
  • Skyscraper08
  • Hunter_the_Cat
  • Pardon
  • zaza
  • Mr_Costello
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      Mr_Costello  
    • But where does Frankee fit in here? Let's please not forget about her F.U.R.B song. She reminds me of an attacking poodle you can't shake off your leg.

      So cute.

    • 3 years ago
  • aljones
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      aljones  
    • Obviously they should be on the list... although if i'm being controversial when i hear the word hip hop the first names that come in to my head are male...

    • 3 years ago
  • AnnieMole
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      AnnieMole  
    • The original's a mystifying list - I've never heard Barack Obama sing, so have no idea why he's there & James Brown - hip hop???? Really???

      Agreed it's criminal that Missy Elliot is missing. Estelle's fairly recent, but she'd be on my list. But if we want to go to influencers what about Salt n Pepa? They were amazing!

    • 3 years ago
  • ksimpson
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      ksimpson  
    • I can't believe none of them are on the list. Crazy. But typical. And Hip Hop's not known for being the most gender-PC art form.

    • 3 years ago
  • matlaroche
  • Slick
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