Death Of Auto-Tune!!- Whats the controversy?

Would people think supermodels were just as beautiful if the photos weren't retouched? Does retouching a photo make the model any less beautiful? Or is it just a tool? Using Auto-Tune as an obvious effect is just playing with the tool's capabilities, I think. It's a fad that will pass, like the feedback craze in 70's rock.

I think that it's a good trend when used in moderation,which it hasn't since god knows when.
Hip hop's okay, but what happened to that raw, gritty feeling that it used to have? Are the hip hop artists more concerned about making money or conveying their message and being original? To me, auto-tune is hurting the genre a little bit with its excessive use.

I think auto-tune is a temporary trend that will be over by the end of the year.

everyone does not use auto-tune.....

use it or not, it's part of our lives. it will be a fad that kids 20 years from now will use to pay homage to our time. making it dated.

on another note: I like how that one brotha was rockin a pinoy hat!

It's all about the money, talent doesn't exist in the music industry anymore. Thank god for FREE downloads!

BIGGIE, BIGGIE, BIGGIE....give HIP HOP one more chance.

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When the general public starts talking about Audio Engineering Tools like its an everyday household item, you know things have gotten completely out of control.

Wait till the masses find out about Melodyne and Vocalign!

When I think about that bizarre computerized auto-tune sound, I think of Cher's "Do you believe in life after love?" - the first popular song on the radio that used it. Now Hip Hop has co-opted it, but do not blame hip hop for bringing this "photoshopped" sound into the world.

not liking autotune is like people in the 50's that were scared of rock n roll.

So clearly being able to sing in today's music industry means absolutely nothing!!! Now could some one PLEASE get the radio DJs to announce what they play? Oh wait! What good would that do? radio only plays 10 songs on an endless loop these days!!!

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This is how we end up with no-talent bullshit artists like Michael Bolton...Its one thing to use it conservatively to cover up obvious mistakes, but when, say, Paris Hilton uses it to produce an entire album, it's utterly unaccpetable.
As an amateur musician I am constantly dumfounded at how little talent it takes to get famous. Fame these days is pure politics: Knowing the right people, and kissing ass in the right places.

True Hip Hop needs to stay fresh and up on game but a robotic tone-voice? Really? our two cents

808 and Heartbreak did not suck.

Ummm, if someone can't hit the notes, instead of doing it, you know, 20 times until they maybe hit the right pitch, FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN SING!!!

Hm! I say its all gravy. If you can sing:Sing! If you can't: Whatever! Auto-tune it if you want......or not! Bob Dylan didn't have a great singing voice. He's still one of America's greater musicians.

Talk Box,Vocoder, Auto Tune, whatever ! They can ALL be used in awesome ways & in ways that are just simply lame! For instance: Mind .in. a .Box ,Front Line Assembly & Skinny Puppy have used very strange voices in their songs & sounded totally awesome! & "California Love" wouldn't be even worth listening to with out the talk box that was used on that track! But then you have artist like Kanye West,T Pain, Cher, & several other people that just make weird vocals into annoying crap! Even Daft Punk who have used voice manipulators for pretty much their whole career ,managed to put out a few tracks where the voice was just all wrong! EVERY artist in music these days uses a vocal touch up in the studio! Some go & distort their voices,but if your distorting your voice,there are some things that MUST be remembered! Deep robot voice + Awesome! High Pitch voice + Not so awesome! If artist would use a chorus effect rather then a cranking the pitch to about the sound of a small child's voice, I think their tune would sound a LOT better! But most of the people using the high pitch AutoTune voice these days are rappers! & MOST rappers can't sing at all!!!In fact, as Kanye was so kind to demonstrate, MOST rappers can't do ANYTHING right!!!

Now that Antares released the Autotune app for your iPhone, maybe the over saturation of the sound will do itself in. It's all fun and games for the first five minutes. Personally, I feel that the best use of the "Robot" effect is used in Autotune the News.

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Jay Z sucks, KRS all the way! WOOP! WOOP!

i like what they said. old school hip-hop artists, nas, and jay-z don't use it because they are real ARTISTS. nas is anyway, and common. he's pretty much my favorite out there today. except for when he collaborates w/ mainstream artists.

too many people of "hip-hop" utilize it like nothing, but it's really annoying and no longer original. to me, if you can't sing or don't have the balls to appreciate your natural sound then you shouldn't be in the business.

this is why i don't listen to the radio or get into those mainstream people. real hip-hop doesn't need this shit. just a good beat and a message, not some tale of picking up bitches in the club while sounding like a dying robot.

The way I heard it explained by Jay Z on a Hot 97 interview was a little different than a "war" on auto-tune. He said he respects T-Pain and liked Kanye's album but the sound is getting overused. To paraphrase, he said something like "Everyone sounds the same. We'll all end up making the same record - that's corny."

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Oh! So it's NOT a vocoder in the wrong octive then! But here's a simple fact,ALL major music production, weather it be the crap that's played on radio today, or actual talented musicians, they ALL tweek stuff in the studio! No one sounds 100% like they do on their CDs when they perform live right? (unless the happen to lipsync!) Come on! This is nothing new at all! The technology has been around since 1930!!! What's sad is that so many talentless idiots get their songs played 100 times on a single radio station in less then 24 hours!

if you can't sing auto tune.

There is no controversy here: auto-tuning is a studio tool, and any tool can be exploited to make someone with little or no talent, skill, or message seem like a big deal.

Clearly if you listen to any of the artists used as examples in this video (t-pain, drake, kanye, etc.), you're probably not interested enough in the art and craft of making music to care about auto-tuning anyway. Searching for good music is more than just flipping on MTV (or TV in general) and gobbling up whatever they're serving up this minute. Do some research by talking to informed friends, reading reviews, and visiting local venues regularly.

Forget about over-produced, chart-topping, cookie-cutter music and find that which shines for its genuine originality and message.

I think auto tune should be killed on all music style types......i think their are too many artists in every genre that can't really sing and are huge because of, I don't know, Disney Corporation! It makes artists lazy. they can go in and just throw down crap in the studio and then move along....there is not art in auto tune.

Auto tune shoiuld only be used sometime not all the time, just some of the time , but rappers ran it in the hole
I have seen dudes that can't even sing sound great ,
so what does that tell ya , The group ZAP back in the day
had the same sound but showed every on they did not use it on every tune they played , they showed they were more than that , so what does that say the so called AUTO TUNE ( i think maybe JAY Z is right )
I hear T Pain is trying to market it as ah toy ,,,
AH FUCKING TOY on ah keychain , you talk into it
play it back & you sound like that whining robot !

Glad Krs and Jayz both feel this way. I'm so sick of hearing auto tune tracks because the musician can't sing. It's way overused and is killing hip-hop. What happend to orginality?

I'd up this shit twice if I could!

what are you talking about, "Jay-Z is beginning to lead a revolution against the use of Auto-Tune "?
Didnt KRS and Mr. Buckshot release robot in the beginning of May?

I fail to see the 'big idea' as well. Rappers don't need AutoTune because they don't sing.

What a freaking Hip Hop-o-crite. Okay, Jay-Z, let's just all go back to beating on drums and banging sticks together.