Kanye West Speaks On New Outlook

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haha true. Stones and Def jux is definitely better.

true

I wish there were a "Like" button on Current

And he would love it!

Thats very interesting, well keep the money in our country instead of the Middle East, like Beyonce and JayZ.

well, you clearly dont have any concept of what a sample is.

Most hip hop artists pay homage to other artists of influence by sampling their music. (ie; taking a tidbit of another song and adding it in as part of the loop)

It's not ripping them off its part of the music and it creates added emotional value to the lyrics.

I'm not hear to defend kanye or anything cause he is kind of a douche, but before you go ripping on people you should get your facts straight

I'm pretty sure that way more than half of his beats contain samples

No I understand what a sample is. I should have been more articulate, but my gripe is with people who use a song's main hook and just loop and talk over it rather than take the other bits and pieces and employ them polyphonically to create something COMPLETELY brand new. An example of someone good at this would be Daedulus, Radioinactive, or The Avalanches.

Artists like girl talk and kanye west are the perfect analogy of this generation: Too lazy, unoriginal, uninspired, and pathetic to come up with something unique. To me they (especially girl talk) sound like nothing more than a drunk guy with a quick thumb and an ipod.

Maybe it's just personal taste. I would like hip hop in its totality alooooot more if the music and not just the lyrics was original (and good). Having said that there are hip hop artists/producers i love. You're certainly allowed to draw from the music that inspires you everyone does this at the beginning, but at some point you have to grow up.

i'm not saying you have to like girl talk or anything, but if you're complaining about girl talk being a lazy-sampling ipod shuffler you're kind of missing the point.

yeah, and at some point people have to stop being so old. don't say you understand samples and rip on girl talk. sampling in hip-hop and mashups are two different animals.

if you dont like something, its fine to express it, but dont try and justify it by exhibiting your lack of knowledge about it.

You do have a point about samples. Daedalus is amazing with them and does it WAY better than kanye, but just because he doesn't use them like him or others doesn't mean he's lazy. Do you know how hard it is to actually sample AND make it sound good? That is no easy task.

@tomindeed: If the point is to capitalize on the ignorance of the public than mission accomplished.

@jfill: You're getting 'new' and 'good' mixed up. Sometimes new is good and sometimes not. The premise for sampling and mash-ups is the same thing though. The only difference is a mash-up steals more in order to make less and may or may not have spoken word over it.

Imagine if I took the paintings Mona-Lisa and Starry Night cut them up, glued the pieces together on a canvas, colored all over it, and told everyone it was my own art. It is barely ONLY art in the broadest sense of the term possible. Sampling and Mash-ups are only real art in the same sense that doritos and twinkies are real food.

@titan50: I guess perspectives on laziness are subjective. Maybe lacking in imagination would of been a more appropriate phrase.

Someone busting their ass on a musical score that they made, Mozart scratching the notes off the staff hundreds of time to find the right arrangement, moving the harmonies around to change the mood, Louie Armstrong and Miles Davis overcoming intense adversity to become pioneers in America's 'classical' music, Brian Wilson cutting up pieces of analog tape and gluing them together to bring together the best parts of various takes, Zakir Hussain practicing for ten hours a day on his tabla are all things that I consider hard work. Having parents that bought you a mac book and knowing how to use a mouse isn't hard work. This is true even for the artists I like. To be honest I haven't tried sampling because recycling whats been done sparks no interest in me. I have done stuff on fruity loops/reason and although fun it isn't hard work. Also even if it is hard work it doesn't mean the outcome will be good. It takes a lot of thought to create a nuclear bomb, but i don't think the outcome of doing so is that positive. (that's a wild parallel to draw I know, but it doe get the point across)

I know you guys aren't going to agree with me. You all have something invested in the thing we're talking about. Just try to be unforgiving with honesty about it

the music business is full of assholes. it's called persona. it sells records.

he actually has some decent flow in a lot of his songs. so if his music is good, then he's really not the biggest moron in music.

Talent sells records.

Marketing Sells Records to the morans at the mall who listen to whores like kanye, who seduce poor dim children into buying the over priced goods that he is displaying in his three and half minute commercials.

Yes mr. west you are able to manipulate millions of sheeple. Good for YOU.

Great power is a responsibility to do great things. When you stop feeding your ego it will die and only then you go can teach your minions to be free of the media induced coma that enslaves them. Then you will be immortal.

MoonLoon, talent is a relative term. if you and I compared who we'd think should have the top-selling records of the year, I'm sure we'd have a varied list.

for an example that talent doesn't always necessarily sell records, Kanye sells millions more than MF DOOM, for example.

so, I'm with you kind of, I wish the truly talented sold the most and got the most attention. but that's simply not the case.