Obama accepting untraceable donations
source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413.html?wpisrc=...
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Eternal_Wind
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Blech, heard that awhile ago... Not like I trusted it, or Obama, or McCain. If I were allowed to vote, I'd probably gather data on their (all the candidate's) policies to see what I like about them, and then determine whether or not I believe what they're saying. (I didn't do any of this because I'm underage, so I can't vote. My parents have their own opinions and I shouldn't be forcing mine on them, and I think they're pretty much set anyways because they're rather stubborn... They don't like it when I tell them off on things, especially if they lied to me and I point it out. >_
- 3 years ago
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Eternal_Wind
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themanwithadog
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Will it ever come to light how much Geoerg W Bush donated to Obamas campaign funds.
Considering all the huge amounts donated what favours will have to be repaid
- 3 years ago
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themanwithadog
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starr111
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Exactly why campaign reform is necessary. Palin may have 150,000 dollar shoes. But, in the first 2 weeks of October the Obama campaign was paying 300,000 per hour for ad time and et cetera. That is an unbelievable amount of money. I could have used 5 minutes of that money to go back to school.
- 3 years ago
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starr111
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Bill_Robison
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Oh, kinda on the same topic, here's a TJ quote that's too funny. What a joker he was.
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
- 3 years ago
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Bill_Robison
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Bill_Robison
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It's not that I'm smarter than most, but I'm disappointed the American voters are buying-in to this charade.
Why THESE two men? Is it because they're the "best of the best" America has to offer? If 3 years ago, you asked 10 million Americans who they would like to see as President, are these the top two names?
If someone wanted to stage a bogus election (where the outcome would be the same, no matter who the new president) these two offer the appearance of polar opposites. McCain couldn't look more White Republican if he were PhotoShopped. And Obama couldn't appear more Black Democrat. On paper, it looks like the ultimate challenge of "Us vs. Them."
Give the American viewer (oops, I mean voter) a good storyline, some interesting characters the viewer can "identify" with, drop in a national crisis and promote the hell out of the whole "Us vs. Them" theme and you've got yourself a blockbuster.
But pull back the curtain and you'll find the same network of bankers and "old money" sitting around the same table Thomas Jefferson warned us of, some 200 years ago.
This election is only an illusion orchestrated to keep the citizens appeased and distracted, while the wealthy few continue their fleecing of America.
God save us all.
- 3 years ago
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Bill_Robison
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kennyJ
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Well this is FINE propaganda- Intentionally written to mislead- and steal thunder from Obama's 30 minute conversation...
First of all because you cannot accept a credit card transaction without generating at least 2 completely traceable RECORDS- Clearly it's not REPORTING anything relevant since McCain has 3% more UNTRACEABLE donations than Obama does.
McCain's DATA: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00006424 - 3 years ago
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thebattleofone
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If you wanted to help your country up from its knees, how far would you go?
I don't approve of his approval of the FISA bill, but I do find a lot of his stances, especially on taxing big business, refreshing.
Q: Can you be elected president and disapprove of a lot of the actions Israel takes against the Palestinians?
A: No, you kiss ass.Q: Can you risk being seen as weak on terrorism (especially in Afghanistan), and not have Conservatives scream your Arabic middle name as proof of your terrorist ties?
A: No, you try and take a stand on the biggest mistake of the Bush presidency (Iraq) and you stand firm on eliminating a terrorist stronghold in Afghanistan.The man is playing it safe to avoid the racism and nativism that has this country in a choke-hold.
The democrats don't need to steal an election, they've seen it happen to themselves first hand in the last two.
Q: Can we rise above robo-calls, fear mongering, and voter intimidation?
A: YES WE CAN! - 3 years ago
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thebattleofone
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smice
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Lots of folks giving what they can afford $10.00, $20.00. $50.00. Lots...
- 3 years ago
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smice
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starr111
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smice:
I really hope that you are right my friend. Obama is someone I've seen from the begining in Chicago. I was proud when he was in our Illinois senate, even if his ambition did force him to vote present a lot. Some say this is smart politics, some criticize. The bottom line is can you honestly say that you think the democrats won't defend us? And who will be a better steward to the taxpayer. Multi-Million Dollar McCain or the man who just paid back he and his wife's college loans?
Make sure you vote.
- 3 years ago
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starr111
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schobiz
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This does sound a bit sketchy and I'm thinking we might hear more about this soon, but you people are a bit extreme. You ask how is he any different than Bush? Well to start he's come from a completely different background and has inspired millions upon millions of people. He's given us the chance, however slim or pathetic it may be, to look forward and face the great challenges of this century. He's certainly not without flaw. I agree it's getting annoying to see people acting as if he was the reincarnated Son of God, but for F**** sake man what other choice have we got?
- 3 years ago
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schobiz
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starr111
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schobiz:
We will hear about this after the election and if he wins maybe not until after that campaign and election 2012.
I pray these people ARE extreme.
I don't think Obama is the anti-christ.
That would be said about Clinton too.
He came from obscurity too. - 3 years ago
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starr111
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PoisonTheMonkey
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At least he's not as bad as McCain, who's done all this and worse.
But alas...
Nader 08! - 3 years ago
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PoisonTheMonkey
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maasanova
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Antichrist? That's a stretch. I don't care for him because he is a Zionist, anti second Amendment, voted for the bailout, is pro war in the Middle East, voted for the Patriot Act, pro-open borders, voted for FISA, I mean, how is this guy any different than Bush?
- 3 years ago
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maasanova
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starr111
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maasanova:
I am glad to hear you bring up our borders. I personally feel that McCain was on the wrong side of this too though.
I feel Obama is capable of making decisions though. He wants to have a bottom up economy. I feel he will protect us. Sometimes in politics you can't do what you want, but I trust him to do better with what he does have than McCain will.
I'd like to see each candidate appoint the other in thier administration. I guess that's idealistic and naive though.
- 3 years ago
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starr111
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rrawtry [removed]
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starr111
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rrawtry:
My husband thought this too.
The Mayans say the world will end in 2012.
I pray this isn't true.
The anti-christ is a scary thought.
- 3 years ago
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starr111
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Eternal_Wind
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rrawtry:
Hmmm... since when did people "play by the rules" anyways? Do people even try to follow them? It seems more like a "cheat as much as you can get away with" than a "play by the rules" type of thing. Besides, just because there are "rules" doesn't mean that people always follow them. It's just like laws but weaker, in a way.
Anti-Christ? Umm... what signs? >_>l| Honestly, sometimes "signs" are meant to warn people, but they are wholely up for interpretation. Let's see... a dream of gates of gold opening. Someone might think of that as something good going to happen in the future (fortune/wealth/fame), and some people might think that you're going to die sometime soon. If you think that those signs are saying that an anti-christ is there, have it your way. Besides, how can you be sure that you interpreted it "correctly," if there even is an accurate interpretation? You probably can't until something follows the "sign," and even that is up for interpretation. And it could be entirely possible that those "signs" were meerly conicidences, so if that were the case, you basically misinterpreted everything about that "sign."
- 3 years ago
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Eternal_Wind
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starr111
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This is dodgy.....
It's easily explaned away by saying ANY muslim sounding name will be a said terrorist but....
It's still dodgy.
- 3 years ago
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starr111
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starr111:
Terrorist? Muslim?
Please. Grow some brains.
- 3 years ago
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asherp
