WTF | December 08, 2008 | 29 comments

Man guilty of "child pornography" for Simpson's cartoon

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By Nick Bryant
BBC News, Sydney

An appeal judge in Australia has ruled that an animation depicting well-known cartoon characters engaging in sexual acts is child pornography.

The internet cartoon featured characters from the Simpsons TV series.

The central issue in the case was whether a cartoon character could depict a real person.

Judge Michael Adams decided that it could, and found a man from Sydney guilty of possessing child pornography on his computer.

The defence had argued that the fictional, animated characters were not real people, and clearly departed from the human form.

They therefore contested that the conviction for the possession of child pornography should be overturned.

Justice Michael Adams said the purpose of anti-child pornography legislation was to stop sexual exploitation and child abuse where images of "real" children were depicted.

But in a landmark ruling he decided that the mere fact that they were not realistic representations of human beings did not mean that they could not be considered people.

He ruled that the animated cartoon could "fuel demand for material that does involve the abuse of children," and therefore upheld the conviction for child pornography.

Rather than jail the man, however, he fined him Aus$3,000 (US$2,000).
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29 comments // Man guilty of "child pornography" for Simpson's cartoon

  • unimatrix0
  • motokoinversailles
  • nazbags
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      nazbags  
    • Ooer, I'm not a hundred percent sure where I stand on this one, but either way I don't think jail time would be appropriate and I'm glad he didn't get that

    • 4 years ago
  • rainbowryan420
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      rainbowryan420  
    • i play GTA4 a lot does that mean i am going to get arrested for picking up virtual hookers and killing virtual citizens

      now i should use my virtual mob connections to go into virtual hiding

    • 4 years ago
  • revolutioninamerica
  • Tayllerand
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • Tayllerand:

      First off, this story's from Australia.
      Second, the founding fathers were great men, and gave us an excellent foundation. It's the generations since that have fucked things up.

    • 4 years ago
  • wintermadness90
  • Humdrum
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • I guess anyone who's ever owned a Heavy Metal magazine is guilty of owning real live murder smut...?
      It's cartoon sex, for fuck's sake.
      As far as cartoon sex goes, there is far worse out there, perfectly legal to own.

      This judge is a cankerous moron.
      The guy shouldn't pay a cent.
      What a bleeding joke.

    • 4 years ago
  • Danobi
  • ClareW
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      ClareW  
    • This is a really radical judgment but it's probably for the best. If people are in any doubt about what constitutes child porn on their own computers, it's probably something they shouldn't have.

    • 4 years ago
  • InformedTexan
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      InformedTexan  
    • ClareW:

      Who's to say that the man was confused as to whether or not it was child porn? If child pornography is defined as pornographic material created with children then how can there be confusion about the disclusion of any people whatsoever in the pornography? It's not a good thing because a judge arbitrarily made a decision about fiction as if it were real.

    • 4 years ago
  • whathefk
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      whathefk  
    • Was the guy convicted for creating the image or possessing the image? Either way, why would you find the scenario amusing enough to warrant saving on your home pc or worse still creating for others "amusement"?

      The guy got what he deserved.

    • 4 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • I think it's disturbing that one would draw Lisa and Bart together or something of that manner.

      It wouldn't necessarily be considered Child Porn, but it would be like slaughtering animals in a sadistic manner. It's not necessarily a serial killer, but it is on the roads to such.

    • 4 years ago
  • Danobi
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • J_Jammer:

      If a child draws blood and guts with stick figures....it's not ok. It's not cute. It's not normal.

      You can tell a lot about people and what they doodle and how they write.

      Nothing is ok just because you're small.

    • 4 years ago
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • J_Jammer:

      I drew lots of blood and guts as a child. Some of my friends did, as well. My little cousin does it sometimes. This kid that comes to the comic book store every week does it.

      All above mentioned = "normal."

      Also, I still draw blood and guts! For personal projects, and for clients! Guess anyone who's read a Heavy Metal magazine is guilty of owning murder smut...?

    • 4 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • J_Jammer:

      I'm not talking about fascination with blood and look this one ripped that one's arms off. Or, for that matter, horror like pictures. You would know if it were disturbing.

      I'm talking about graphic depictions of violent acts....

      drawing that is not normal no matter how many people do it. In this case majority doesn't create normalcy.

    • 4 years ago
  • Danobi
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      Danobi  
    • J_Jammer:

      I think that's not entirely accurate. some of the greatest art in the world depicts violent act, it doesn't mean the artist is a depraved lunatic. Drawings are an expression of imagination. What about film makers that create really violent films?

    • 4 years ago
  • Danobi
  • fidgetyfoo
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      fidgetyfoo  
    • So Lisa Simpson being raped by Homer and Bart isn't a slightly disturbing thing to spend time on!! Surely people have better things to do with their time? You gotta ask yourself what they guys motivation was?

    • 4 years ago
  • Jacques_of_Spades
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      Jacques_of_Spades  
    • So we should persecute South Park for killing Kenny every week?

      Orrrr... we should persecute almost every show on television for killing off a -character- now and then?

    • 4 years ago
  • lj111
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      lj111  
    • THIS JUDGE NEEDS A REALITY CHECK WHAT IS HIS PROBLEM. MAYBE SOMEONE NEED TO CHECK HIS PC OR MAYBE EVEN HIS CLOSET.

    • 4 years ago
  • Bigdog_mike
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      Bigdog_mike  
    • I am tired of judges sentencing people based on "woulda Coulda's"
      Now this fella has to live with a serious conviction over his head for his whole life because of cartoon porn.

    • 4 years ago
  • Brockie
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      Brockie  
    • This is so ridiculous. How can anyone be guilty of child porn when the so called victim is a drawing? At the worst this guy is only guilty of copywright infringement for using the simpsons in the animation.

    • 4 years ago
  • InformedTexan
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      InformedTexan  
    • This is absolutely ridiculous. Next headline: "Artist is arrested for depicting the death of Christ, Judge cites that the depiction is murder because the figure could resemble a real person."

      Apparently anything that could figuratively represent something illegal is also itself illegal. I wonder if they plan to posthumously arrest Vladimir Nabokov for writing Lolita.

    • 4 years ago
  • Soular75
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      Soular75  
    • InformedTexan:

      Though this ruling seems crazy, but as a therapist for Sex Offenders those type of video's are triggers for them and people can justify the inappropriateness of the cartoon because it is animation. Not only that with children having access to the internet you never know what they are clicking on and this is the type of thing that will catch a childs attention.

    • 4 years ago
  • Ando_SB
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      Ando_SB  
    • Image
    • Wanted: For crimes against Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder

      And just because they're not realistic representations of human beings does NOT mean they aren't mutants- I mean people, too.

    • 4 years ago
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