The Current Jam

Yep, doing it for the lulz.

Don't you think if he does come back as a different persona, unless he changes his style, it should be easy to identify him..?

yeah, on the first post, but with a new ip, new name, and not telling everyone who you used to be how could you be certain? I don't see current kicking off people who they think are the banned list but can't prove, they don't have enough traffic.

"Don't you think if he does come back as a different persona, unless he changes his style, it should be easy to identify him..?"

It wouldn't take long. His obsession with having the last word would shine through pretty quick.

I believe it you are correct about JJammer returning under another profile. I suspect it to be ThorThunder. He comments on this very article, 2nd Page. ThorThunder challenges the comments made against JJammer, in a way that would seem much like JJammers own tone.

Why would they make it so easy for a racist to return? They should care more to protect us.

WEE WEE =========>~~~~~

(I) vagina :)

-------on body language;

"I want you
I don't want anybody else
And when I think about you
I touch myself
Ooh, oooh, oooooh, aaaaaah
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you
I touch myself
I don't want anybody else
Oh no, oh no, oh no---"

To forward? p.s. THIS DOES NOT BY ANY MEANS MEAN I WANT A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP! (just sayin)

Oh great just what I need ??????????????? More love me and leave me do your best to please me.

naked

NEKKID! I search myself, I want you to find, I forget myself, I want you to remind me. ;)

+^d,.......because there are still comments being made on this post, and I am back,...here,....slightly pissed,...once again. This may be the origin point of "bOObies grope" though,........so small favors happen.

No need o get upset over this mess. I just figure some people are sicker than others. Then you have the people that just spout B.S.

I don't feel the point is just about that one comment, but that others have made similar comments with no punishment because of their standing with in this community. And just as in REAL life we don't appreciate when one person gets special privileges over another just because of their position or popularity - it's not right. The next step is to say "nothing's fair, life's not fair", but on a website dedicated to showing "Current" issues and hosting an open forum, there should be fairness.

he did seem really out of touch with his comments. He never seemed to understand why everyone disagreed with him, it was because he took his comments to the extreme.

Well said as always slarabee.

I often times got the feeling he was being argumentative just to keep the thing going, like the word goading. But there were other times that he was right on target.

But I agree that there are certain lines that should not be crossed.

The other day someone was using the N word in a thread, referring to themselves as being someone's N. I thought it was an offensive use of the term and relating it to slavery. I flagged both comments, but received no reply and I still don't know if the comment was deleted or edited. So I do understand that the criteria for deletion can seem arbitrary, based on who is reviewing it, and perhaps even the context.

From a search on Current for the N word, I found that there are 72 pages of articles that have that word, so I guess it must not be considered that offensive to use on Current.

So I guess I don't get how that racial slur of Jammer's is any worse than the ones I have read on those articles that have the N word. I thought the N word was way more offensive than calling someone black.

Or is it the reference to gold in the mouth and a gun in the hand, obviously to me some sort of reference to GANGSTER RAPPERS, who typically use the N word as a cornerstone of their rhetoric?

What an eloquent and witty rebuttal. So informative and thought-provoking.

Jan, MaralynnMurray and Vierotcha should have been eliminated from current along tim ago for there attacks on people. It seems they are on the current hierarchy with neocongo and current89.

Yeah...really

Again, cry me a river and grow up. That is about as eloquent as I can be based on the topic. With all of the truly important things happening in this world today, you think THIS is news? And please, don't even try your insults at me. I only give what I get here when it is warranted, and basically post about topics that are virtually ignored here. So once again we have the right side using politics to start a fight. How mature. If you can't take what I post in stride or in response to your own insults practice what you preach and stay out of my way. There are SERIOUS topics that need discussion so if you think I'm going to fret over someone having a hissy over a website, forget it.

guy, when south park did it, it was funny. When you do it, it just comes off as lame and unoriginal.

i guess im lame and unoriginal.

JAn its the internet not some ivy league think tank.

The internet is not an ivy league think tank because idiocy clogs it's arteries.

Guy, I though it was funny.

Jan and Lifestudent,

you guys aren't in ivy league think tanks because you don't have the credentials and at 50 you won't be getting there in this life. Thinking the internet is Mensa or thinking it should be is about as delusional as it gets.

Jan and Lifestudent are very informative posters. I enjoy what they have to say. If only I could recommend post I would recommend theirs, often.

You are a nag and a gripe. And you champion things of value. And everyone knows who you are, and I respect you. +^D this opinion of yours that I don't agree with UP. YOU have BALLs,....er,....probably 'OVARIES',.....both put up a good fight. And time was I would look for a Jan recommend. So,...well,...that is all.

YOU ARE GONE. I +^ your ghost!!
( but quit appearing without a graphic/icon, whatever you provincial name,.........these lil "wax stamps" have symbolic value,.....use-em!)

p.s. Watch the Super-Bowl.! These are our local gods!!!
well,....Dallas dint make it,.............so not so much as I would like.

Good points. Your view of how the site has developed is similar to my view.

I'm afraid the "origin issues" of current are something I missed. Now I wish I had been there just to compare the "then and now" of it. Right on. Peace. Make love, not war.

If this is one of your sources of intellectual entertainment...heh!

Heh? I do, like many people, use the internet for both entertainment and informational purposes... What r u doing here, if not entertaining yourself? lol

Yes, loving bombs would take out two problems... :) You can volunteer tho! Also "back in the day" Current ran off of a large mouse wheel (containing the fastest staff members) ...how far they've come

He got banned for "personal attacks" most of which you never have seen or pretend you don't.

like ReganMann said, JJammer was banned for his behavior. His standing on ideology or religion is not what had him "picked off". He was childish and arrogant. Even those with liberal views have been flagged and banned for their behaviors. Jammer just chose to whine about it, which is kind of predictable of him.

+^D my comment. What p-ssy coward -Vd this without leaving a mark ?
Its not the opinion I have objection to, tis the anonymity. At BEST, you are a lazy f wad,....at WORST,...a dick less worthless assassin.

+^d this comment of mine. ( O,....and when U,...U know who U are, -v it down again,......D mfr,.......D. ) I hope that communicated clearly.

Well put.

You seem to say that political balance between the right and left is a correct place to be. But what if the right is evil and the left is good? What if the right condones murder and genocide (which it does) and the left calls for accountability and morality (which is does)? Should there be a balance there? Should right balance with wrong? Should we allow a few murders for every life? Is a little genocide OK?

I'm not sure that political balance is admirable, because, as you say, some ideas are innocently ignorant, willfully ignorant, or immoral. In such cases, it is weak and wrong to attempt compromise. For example, torture, murder, and genocide are never issues upon which to compromise.

However, in approaching the arguments which surround such issues, I believe it is smarter and more productive to not allow myself to be enticed into the snake pit of name-calling, character assassination, and egomaniacal insistence that I am right.

If, however, those with whom I disagree refuse to engage in civil discourse; if they smear my name or the names of my allies; if they refuse to concede, even when faced with empirical evidence that refutes their arguments; then I have to realize that they are no longer conversing; they are intimidating.

In such situations, I resort to satirical ridicule to try to win the argument. If those with whom I disagree were to proceed to physical threats or actual violence against me or others, I would respond in kind to protect myself and my loved ones.

The difficulty comes in deciding at which point I will take up physical weapons to respond to perceived threats. Should it be the moment when my opponent disagrees with me, the moment I see a gun pointed at me, or at a point somewhere in between? In the past, there is no clear historical marker to guide me: Hitler was allowed to thrive too long before good people stood up to cast him down. George W. Bush was removed peacefully from office. Richard Nixon was forced to resign, while Reagan was allowed to gut American progress in ways which still echo.

When someone like Jammer tells me I'm ignorant or that all liberals are fools, do I immediately grab my pistol and go hunting, or do I try to establish a meaningful rational connection in order to understand, then to be understood? I think that reaching out can forestall the need to lash out, and that is what I was trying to say.

Thank you for reminding me and others that, as the old country song goes, "you have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything."

Well said.

+^D while I am back here again. This once had a "recommend" with remanns on it. I think the removal of all past "recommends" actually pisses me off. Not being able to do it in the future is ONE THING,....but this smacks of edited history. FUCK THAT. Bush would do it.

+^D your comment on Prog. mans comment.

amen and amen

I have had a conversation or two with JJ offline, and he is passionate about what he believes. I think he is often propelled by an urgency to defend what he sees as an unrelenting assault on his belief system, and while I try to focus on the places where we can agree, he frequently digresses into verbal assault with those he disagrees with, and doesn't recognize that he isn't defending his position, or any position when he does that.

He forces our hand, over and over again with his relentlessness, and while he can be exhausting at times, there is also something very bright, albeit narcissistic about him.

ahhhh...what a question jonraymond. I wonder, have you ever read the Mahabharata?

So, just what is your point really? How is it relevant to this topic?

It's he, and he is all or partly Asian as I understand it.

Being passionate or idealistic is not just a trait among "young liberals"....I agree with you that your youth is a time when the world is new and magical. But, I think to many young adults these days live life of extreme leisure. The have some extremely narrow views on many important, complicated issues facing the world today. They make decisions without weighing out the pro's and con's. Also many seem incapable of listening to any opinions that doesn't fit into their narrow view of the world. If you disagree with the President~your an idiot, if you strongly believe in national security your a fascist. I chose a career in the military right out of High school and I have seen and done things that I am ashamed of. I never agreed with Bush2 and I am filled with rage when I think about how the Bush Administration lied to us. I have been called some incredibly horrible and personal things on this site. I was even told that I should kill myself to make up the karma deficit I created by my actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's fine, I am proud of the choices I made in my life and proud to be a soldier in the U.S. Army, even if my government betrays and lies to me. There is real evil out there and some people really don't realize how close this world is to anarchy. I am some sort of neo-con, in fact I am an Irish Catholic kid from Boston who is proud to be American even with all her faults and blemishes.

Well said bking74, well said.

Ahiguy, I say this in all sincerity I consider that high praise from such an intelligent, opinion person such as yourself..thank you

Labels do not serve us well . They are divisive . Ideologies do not always square with reality . Commonsense after reviewing all the facts is what I prefer . You can post any telling facts that are missing from the dialogue . In general the people are thoughtful . What I do not like are personal insults . They are a sign of a weak argument , weak intellect or both .

Liberal is the new moderate. Right is the new Nazism.

and one of my favorite posters on Current...I love your ability to express your point of view and stand up for what you believe...even when you might be in the minority...that is one of the most valuable things about Current.

...so true...xo