The Greenest Hypocrite of 2007? Al Gore!!!

The Kitanemuk are not the only indigenous group who were trampled over by Occidental's oil operations. The 5000-member strong U'wa of northeastern Colombia, threatened mass suicide if Oxy proceeded with plans to begin drilling oil on their ancestral homeland. The U'wa, who retained their language and traditions, understood the introduction of oil would devastate their culture. They also understood that oil facilities would put them in the midst of Colombia's fierce civil war. "To the U'wa, oil equals violence," explains Danny Kennedy, director of the Berkeley, California-based Project Underground, which has helped wage an international campaign of support for the U'wa. Oil installations are a favorite target of leftist guerillas at war with the Colombian government. After guerillas bomb the installations, the army occupies the area. "Then comes the paramilitary, who are basically soldiers with hoods on at night. Then comes the terror campaign" says Kennedy. The U'wa, who have little contact with either the government or the guerillas, would end up becoming targets. The U'wa have attracted international sympathy, but their efforts to enlist the support of Occidental's most famous shareholder -- Al Gore -- have come to naught. Gore publicly met the outcry over the U'wa with silence. As Vice President, he refused a request by a Democratic member of Congress that he meet with an U'wa representative who had traveled to Washington to see him. Meanwhile, Occidental pressed for the massive military aide package for Colombia the administration recently pushed through Congress. Occidental Vice President Lawrence Mirage testified before Congress in favor of the military aide package during the February deliberations, throwing in that those opposed to Occidental's drilling were a bunch of "extremists." Al Gore has extremely influencial power on the Occidental oil company. but does he act? no. he goes around, making movies and all this shit that's great and all. but he's making all of this money from a company he has a $1 million worth of stock in who is doing the crap he "fights against". come on people. you all lash out at Fox, which is just, Fox is shit sucking neocon dungeon. but let's not play dumb. let's recognize that the problem is not one side. it's both. same shit, different piles.

yeah. here's the thing. it's true. Al Gore is a hypocrite. and here's why. In 1997, Gore championed the privatization of California's National Oil Reserve, and the subsequent drilling by Occidental (the oil company that Al Gore owns around $1 million in stock) that resulted in awful and serious environmental damage, and destruction to a sacred Indian burial ground and a windfall for his family trust's Occidental stocks. In Feb of '01, the last of 100 burial grounds, holy places and other archaeological sites of the Kitanemuk Indians of central Calif. was obliterated by the oil drilling of Occidental Petroleum Company. Oxy's plans "destroyed forever the evidence that we once existed on this land," according to Dee Dominguez, a Kitanemuk whose great grandfather was a signatory to the 1851 treaty that surrendered the Elk Hills. Environmentalists also said a rare species of fox, lizard and the kangaroo rat were damaged by Oxy's drilling. A lawsuit was filed under the Endangered Species Act. But none of that has given pause to Occidental or the politician who helped engineer the sale of the drilling rights to the federally-owned Elk Hills, Al Gore. within weeks of the purchase, Gore's stocks rose 10%. Nowhere is Al Gore's environmental hypocrisy more glaring than when it comes to his relationship with Occidental. While on the one hand talking tough about his "big oil" opponents and waxing poetic about indigenous peoples in his 1992 book "Earth in the Balance," the Elk Hills sale and other deals show that money has always been more important to Al Gore than ideals.

I again want to re-emphasize my mistake of erring on the side of grouping you with others and in turning a deaf ear to much of what you were saying without really acknowledging that you had valid reasons for thinking in that manner.

I agree that "believing is (often) seeing". Another way that phenomenon of human nature is is often conveyed is by the saying "Perception is often its own reality."

Where I guess we'll have to agree to disagree is that I do not place a lot of faith in 50 year graphs and computer models that many of the greenhouse gas doomsayers often use,

On the other hand, as an amateur student of meteorological data that happens to affect the property claim business I've been associated with for more than 30 years, I see anomalies that point to what I believe are patterns of oncoming change.

I cannot prove that these changes are anything but anecdotal and that they may have nothing to do with mankind's influence

However when scientists who do antarctic coring of ice samples that have frozen atmosphere that is hundreds of millions of years old and see their conclusions, I do take notice.

Other less scientific but very graphic eye-openers get my attention outside the realm of numbered natural catastrophes that have definitely worsened in recent decades.

When you look at receding ice caps on at national parks in the U.S., Canada and Africa, you see very plain evidence that those areas are, beyond any doubt, experiencing warming temperatures.

When you look at the polar ice cap and the ice flows and satellites measure their mass, dept and then track their lifespans, there is no arguing that polar bears are not experiencing 25% lighter average body weights because they bought a Nutrisystem diet program from Dan Marino,

All I csn conclude is that something BIG is going on - without a doubt. Whether the cause of these anomalies is man-made on not or whether mankind can do anything to decrease its impact is unknown in my book.

However, it is like the car hurtling toward you at blinding speed. You have several courses of action or inaction you can take. You can trust that the driver sees you and stops. You can trust the driver sees you and is able to stop. You can wonder if the driver even sees you and decide to sit tight and do nothing. You can get out of the way.

Most of us would try to get out of the way buy let's say we were in a spot where we couldn't get out of the way - what then? That opens up a whole new set of variables. That is where I think we are and that is why I think we should be doing everything we can to avert possible disaster. if we don't have the disaster, fine, We've wasted some time and money. If the disaster comes and we have (because of our actions) found a way to avoid the disaster, so much the better. Lastly, if there is nothing that could have been done to avert the disaster, at least we tried.

Those are my simple reasons without delving into the anecdotal or scientific signals we must look at to make our own determination.

By the way, your atheism actually makes me respect some of your decisions even more than what I feel for the fundies who are looking for the rapture to save them from an ever-worsening state of affairs in this country.

regards,

You are certainly due my apologies for equating your belief that Global Climate change is a myth to those from the realm of radical Christian fundamentalism.

However, I do not apologize for challenging your poorly-thought-out opinion that climate change cannot be slowed or reversed by man,

Like I said, even if climate chain is not mostly the cause of what SIX BILLION people have done to this planet, it STILL does not make sense to err on the side of caution and to assume that exacerbation of our destructive influences should be ended just as quickly as possible.

I do apologize for my grouping you into a dissimilar group but please explain who has PAID you or heavily influenced you to pooh pooh climate change and to advocate not at least exercising as must restraint as possible in curbing mankind's preventable contributions to questionable activities that could NEVER have POSITIVE effects on the planet's ecosystem.

You're not off the hook but I DO owe you an apology for suspecting that your reasons stemmed from the same motivations that emanate from the "Fundies".

I would like to hear your financial stake in your theories because everything DOES eventually come down to money or power AND I would like to know why you reject the non-proliferation theory of not adding to their effects in the off chance that climate change IS cause mostly by man's influence on the planet.

Again, I sincerely apologize for jumping to a conclusion about your motives but I would like to hear your motives as they relate to erring on the side of caution and betting on the majority of opinions based on the most prolific conclusions of conventional scientific evidence.

The "REAL" Fundies? That is choice! Assailing MY critical thinking and having the audacity to call it zealotry while YOU reject evolution, carbon dating and hundreds of other scientific discoveries? All that so that you can believe in some "Literal" translation of a bible you couldn't understand if it weren't translated into a gazillion different versions. (Don't you know that those translations have been changed and "adapted" depending on the whims of the religious leaders of the various movements and eras?)

Your "Fundy" world ceases to exist unless you can refute carbon dating and establish a world that is only 9,000-11,000 years old!

I'M the zealot? I'M the fundy? I'M the unintelligent one. I'M the Kool-Aid drinker? LMMFAO!

If you are so smart, please tell me why Noah forgot to put the dinosaurs on the ark and why he forgot the wooly mammoths and the saber-toothed tigers?

Did he defy God or were the flood and the Ark the only "Figurative" parts of the Bible?

Why don't you accept the books of the Catholic Bible?

Why don't you accept the Mormons? Why don't you accept the Pentecostals or the Church of Christ or the Christians who use snakes to test the faith of the believers in their denomination in Appalachia?

No, you fundies simply declare that you know the word of God and then tell everyone else they're wrong.

Since you're so smart, please let us know why your particular denomination can't explain the absence of dinosaurs, wooly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers on the ark?

I'll tell you why. There IS no explanation for them and certainly no explanation for why Noah would have either defied God or forgotten them.

Early man witnessed mammoths and saber-toothed tigers but early man was not around when dinosaurs ruled the Earth.

Too bad, Mr. Genius, because if we could just figure out where Noah put those giant beasts we could open up mega feed lots in the Midwest and render their huge carcasses for oil and end our foreign oil dependence.

Who knows, if lizard meat were low in cholesterol, we could even have a terrific food source for mankind.

You have the audacity to hold up your pitiful skewed view of fundy mythology as some "proof" that Al Gore is a hypocrite?

I am far from a computer genius or a hack and even I can go into wikipedia and change stuff so why don't you quit being nothing more than a troll with no scientific answers who thinks his bellowing is convincing anyone with even half a brain? You sound like some snake oil salesman and your emotionally-wrought pleas have absolutely no scientific standing and even rely on refuting proven scientific principles.

Go watch the National Geographic's program airing soon on the first ever autopsy of a frozen baby mammoth that lived before the last ice age and long before the fundies think the world was created.

Later you can explain why cavemen made drawings of hunts on the walls of caves in the South of France and why Noah didn't save them OR the dinosaurs.

Fundies must always weave their way between scientific principles that have to be both believed in some instances and cast aside in others. The machinations necessary are as ludicrous as they are contrived.
Come back with some answers other than I just believe it is that way because God said it was.

By the way, why don't you tell us just what Al Gore said that was so untrue or impossible in his movie. Quote the movie. Don't just point us to websites and tell us THEY explain it. Come in here and tell us and prove it and be sure to bring us that dinosaur and wooly mammoth information, too.

Even if climate change were not being caused totally by mankind and his greenhouse gas emissions, please then tell me why adding to 'Natural' Climate Change or exacerbating it would be a smart thing to do?'

I'll be waiting on your "Divinely-Inspired" reasons why we should do nothing.

That has to be the worst-designed website I've ever seen. Talk about a "Fundie" with aberrant views, the author of that website needs to get back on his prozac before he hurts someone.

Stay away from sharp objects until you get your prescription filled.

There is something about the above-linked website that reminds me of Larry the Arkansas State Trooper that Lush Rimbaugh used to have on his demented broadcast telling all those stories about smuggling cocaine into Mena, AR in the nose cones of airplanes.

That site looks like a horribly designed story board for a low budget Oliver Stone fairy tale.

The next thing we know, somebody will be telling us Vince Foster had the proof that Global Climate Change was a myth and that's why they killed him just before he was about to commit suicide.

How many of those un-factual op-ed stories were Big Oil Boys? LOL

Controversy sure does bring out the looneys.

If we were atempting and especialy if Gore were atempting to inject bias it would be very easy. The very fact that in viewpoints you can find opinions by an evangelical presidential candidate should mean something. If we wanted bias we wouldn't have a climate change topic and we sure as heck wouldn't air opposing viewpoints or POD's back to back. I don't want to sound biased as an employee but I was a user long before I came to work here and when I was a mod I never felt a call to mince my words other than to not insult other users. I thought then and still think now that Current is unique among the content on the web. Anyone can post any oppinion and if enough people enjoy it they can have it broadcast on television. That is special and even conservative publications like the Christian Science Moniter agree.

*****"Wow, ..... I simply participated in the conversation by linking an interesting article I saw from the nation's most popular network."*****

Gee, Dabne, I went to the FAUX "News" Channel website you linked.

I thought it was amazing that the Top 10 Hypocrites all turned out to be progressive or liberal in their leanings. I guess that means there are no "Conservative" hypocrites, huh?

Oh wait. Calling the most fiscally liberal Presidency in the history of this country "Conservative" is not hypocritical? ROTFLMAO

I guess that would rank right up there with your calling the FAUX "News" Channel "the nation's most popular network." What poll are YOU looking at when you call then the most popular in the nation? "The Fundy Review"?

So you actually watch people like phone sex harasser, Bill O'Loofah? And when he says his telecast allows "No Spin", you think what?

He's telling the truth? LOL

So where do you think they got the term "Fair and Balanced" when they were tilting that far to the right? News Flash! They stole the words from a dictionary and then used "poetic license" to use them while keeping a straight face..

Why don't I report and YOU decide, huh?

May George Bush bless you and keep and cause his face to shine upon you and give you peace. Amen and Amen and Shondala Hondala Rhondala Fondala

The Rev. Ivan Norris "Ino" Fulwell

Al Gore created this website and this concept. Get a clue...

@Varex

"Current.com is bias only in the sense that the people who access it tend to be liberal."

Dabne said Current is biased. That's not the same as the users of Current.com, or most users of Current.com are biased.

Most politically active Current.com users are liberals which is unfortunate and a direct consequences of
Gore being one of the founders, this network is handicapped thanks to the false perception that it's mostly about politics and left-wing politics at that, but I don't confuse the users with the company.

Dabne does.

He implied that there is some kind of conspiracy by the Current team to put anti-Bush items on the front-page. That can be debunked by simply clicking on the last 100 Current Picks.

He also implied that this item not being a Current Pick itself proves that the Current team is biased even though favoring items with more comments over those with fewer comments has never been Current's policy. Such policy wouldn't make sense as there are items where the people who uploaded them submit multiple responses and even two people can generate dozens or even hundreds of comments if they are engaged in a debate.

And since unlike over there at FOX most of Current's programming and most items on Current.com don't have anything to do with US politics the assertion that Current.com is biased itself is a wild-eyed exaggeration. Let's not confuse one topic with the entire site.

"I will say, if you don't like how current.com is bias, then encourage more people of a conservative nature to sign up and post their opinions."

I agree with that. In fact I have rather conservative views on abortion, military spending, free trade, gay rights and welfare.

However there is a difference between opinions and bold faced lies like this one:

"While Gore deflected criticism of his inconvenient electric bill during March congressional testimony by saying he purchased “green” electricity, the truth is, he didn’t start doing so until 2007."

What is this good for?

Very well put Varex_Sythe!

yo people,

You all care enough about Global Warming to speak your mind concerning the man who speaks loudest for the issue, but in your attempt to discredit his lifestyle and each other, you're neglecting the core - that Al Gore is a serious transcendental visionary, and his work has been only to include You in the birth of a greater world consciousness. Follow him!

I'd like to address the sub topic of the bias of both current.com and Fox. Yes both are bias; however, both are bias for different reasons, and one puts on the facade that it is not bias.

Current.com is bias only in the sense that the people who access it tend to be liberal. With the exception of a few people, most of us realize that current.com is bias and we accept it. Now although anyone who shares an opposing point of view from the masses here might be ridiculed or slammed, keep something in mind. You are still free to post your opinion and ideas here, and you can do so as often as you like.

Fox News is bias in the sense that the person who owns it has his own agenda that he is trying to push on the public. While Rupert Murdock is pushing this agenda, he is doing so under the guise of "fair and balanced". Now if you ever appear on any segment of Fox News and you have an opinion contrary to that of Rupert Murdocks opinion, then either two things will have happened, or will happen. The first possibility is that they are aware of your position and are setting you up to take a fall. Fox News will set you up, and then try to lead you like a lamb to the slaughter. The second possibility, if they are unaware of your difference of opinion, is that they will prepare to slam you after your opinion has been given. Not only will they attempt to ruin any credibility that you might have, but they will never call on you again for a serious opinion on a matter.

So yeah, both current.com and Fox News are bias in their own way. It's just on current.com, we tend to not pretend to be something we are not. Now I'm not going to say, "if you don't like how current is bias then leave," because that would achieve nothing. We would lose valuable opposing points of view and discussions around here would be much less entertaining and engaging. I will say, if you don't like how current.com is bias, then encourage more people of a conservative nature to sign up and post their opinions. They are just as free to join and share their points of view as everyone else, and the turbulent thoughts that will be sure to arise from the political and philosophical conflict will make the perfect environment for breeding new ideas.

@Conniepae

"You are right, but where is it written that I have to agree with people who post against Al Gore? I am sick of all the spin and counter spin."

I'm sick of all the spin and counter spin, too. But you didn't just tell him you don't agree with him. You asked why he comes to Current to post against Gore.
Well, why not to post against Gore or anyone on Current? It's a place for everyone. Even for chronically biased liars like dabne. Democracy has room for enemies.

"I came to current.com to support Gore. "

That's your right but that's hardly why most users should come here. If this channel was about Gore it wouldn't have a chance to survive.

@dabne

"stardate, you lost all credibility when you said Current is not biased. "

In your world everything not as right wing as Fox is biased.
Current is not biased. It's not even a political channel for that matter. It was not designed for ideologues like you. Left or right.

"What part of "currently leads the cable news market in the United States" do you not understand?"

And what part of "majority of Americans" you don't understand? My point was that contrary to what you said most americans do not watch Fox news. That's a fact whether you like it or not.

"Currently leads the cable news market in the United States" doesn't say anything about how many people actually watch it. Get it? Or it's just too complicated for a hopelessly biased mind like you?

The part which you quoted in you latest post was already there in your third one so there was no need to repeat it. But you simply ignored the actual numbers which show your claim that most Americans watch FOX was a lie. Talk about "selective posting of info".

"Oh, and when you said I came here and lied. I believe I simply included a headline and an article from Fox News."

No you didn't just do that. You repeated the lies Fox told you and you did it because you want to believe these lies in fact accurately describe what Gore has said and done and you want everyone else to believe that too. Which means you are a liar just like those who invented the lies. No difference. You are not merely an innocent observer and you know that.

Which is why you invented this nonsense, too:

"Nearly every political posting on current.com is anti-Bush, paranoia, etc... and even funnier they all seem to find their way to Current Picks."

Huh? How many of the last 100 Current Picks had anything to do with Bush?

"The leader in cable news in the United States. "

You are beating a dead horse No matter how many people watch FOX NEWS - and not more than a few million - that will not change the fact that they lied about Gore. That's the issue here. Not whether you and your fellow right wing ideoloues watch FOX or not.

@smorrisey

"re: stardate......thats all i have to say...."

Except that's not all you had to say. Foolishly, you also said this:

"way to call her out on the selective posting of info......sooo deceitful..I read that wiki page.."

Then how could you miss those numbers?
Apparently you also missed this bullshit in dapne's post:

"So spit all the venom you want at us (the majority of Americans) who tune into FOX NEWS!!! "

Now go back and read my post again. Maybe you will understand why I quoted those parts of the wiki entry.
The majority of Americans do not tune into FOX NEWS.
And there is absolutely nothing on the wiki page which disproves that.

"...TMFT (too much freaking text)...please use a webcam or some other form of media in the futr..."

Indeed. Reading so much text must be horrible. My condolences. But this explains why you failed to comprehend what I wrote.

".i do not have the time or interest to read another mind-numbing-length blatantly biased posting among a huge choir of bull$h!#......."

Terrible news. I understand that you have the time and interest to behave annoyingly in front of that webcam, instead.

I know no one who watches Fox News.

I don't hold much love for the MSM in general, especially when they LIE or cover for LIES. Fox News covered for the LIES that got us into this war and they covered Bush's ass and the asses of all those who have used the Constitution of this country for a doormat for the last seven years. So my beef is not so much with the fact that you posted about Al Gore ( and BTW, many articles posted here regarding him pro or con do not make it to any picks page so I don't know what site you are looking at) though yes, what they stated in their hit piece was grossly exaggerated, it is because of what they represent. And to say the majority of Americans watch Fox News once again only validates why this country is in the state it is in: on the brink of a police state with people not giving a damn because they are too distracted watching Fox News and their BS shows.

Saying Fox News is number one in this country only validates the sorry state this country is in. It is propaganda, pure and simple. Too bad if you don't like free opinions regarding that and people who can actually think for themselves.

smorrisey - "The trick to getting everything you want in life is to always be filled with gratitude and humility. It also helps to practice daily acts of extreme kindness and utter selflessness...especially with those who will never be able to repay you.......... Eat plenty of carrots, mangoes, and berries too....they'll help you live forever."

Of course, I'm quoting your statement in your profile. I'm a little baffled by the "gratitude and humility" part though.

Too bad this kind of article is going to be used by Republicans to discount any action towards sustainability. Somehow they can just use someone's personal life to discredit an entire movement or idea. Apparently you have to be inconceivably pure before you speak out for any movement.

How many priests or pastors (of any Christian sect) have had stories break about them molesting children, having sex in public areas, using drugs, etc?? But do we go about discrediting the whole concept of Christianity? No...

Please use a webcam or some other form of media . . . (you did originally respond "To All", right?) . . . gee, what if we don't have access to those things, should we just shut up for you? You do not have the time or interest to read another mind numbing length blatantly biased posting among a huge choir of bull? Didn't you previously tell all of us "I really don't care enough"? Evidently you must or you wouldn't be back. Somewhere in your ranting you have one opinion and one valid point, look at both sides, and don't go for the personal attacks. Other than criticism dripping with sarcasm toward the individuals responding to this post, we haven't heard your unbiased opinion on the actual article that was posted - - or maybe you feel, based on your opinion of us as narrow minded faux-liberals that your particular form of liberalism would be lost on us? Give it a try, some of us might actually "care enough" to read it.

Stardate, "@Conniepae "Why you bother to come to current.com to post against Al Gore?" Since when is Current about Al Gore? Why shouldn't people post against him here when they often post against various other people, like Bush for example? The problem is not that he posted something against Gore. The problem is that he lied." You are right, but where is it written that I have to agree with people who post against Al Gore? I am sick of all the spin and counter spin. I came to current.com to support Gore. I don't work for current.com, so my views are just my views, I am tired of seeing the influence Fox News has had on America. At this current time in my life I find current.com an excellent place to communicate with other like minded people. I don't have to agree with other opinions. I don't have to welcome them with open arms. I am living with the realities of spin, spun by Bushies. I look forward to the day when Americans stand up to the spin with facts. I am bias! I am not perfect! Current.com has meaning to different people for different reasons. For me, current has been an escape from mainstream media and the spin of the day. I think this post was used to bait and switch. An opinion was posted to ignite the flame of people who support Al Gore and when the flame is ignited, say gotcha. I'm sick of the gotcha mentality!

stardate, you lost all credibility when you said Current is not biased. Hilarious. And when when you convientley left out this part of what you added from wikipedia.

"Fox News currently leads the cable news market in the United States, earning higher points ratings than its chief competitors CNN and MSNBC combined by average viewership."

What part of "currently leads the cable news market in the United States" do you not understand?

Oh, and when you said I came here and lied. I believe I simply included a headline and an article from Fox News. The leader in cable news in the United States. Look around this website stardate and tell me how many posts are stating that Bush was responsible for 9/11 and that he is planning another attack before 08' elections. What do you call those posts? Just curious.

I'll guess I'll go look for a story from the Daily Kos. Is that hip around here?

stardate, Thank you. I thought so, hadn't taken the time yet to research it. Now I don't have to because you always do a great job.

Ah guys stop picking on FOX News. They get laughed out of town everywhere. Dab and SM just wanted to post about them here and not be picked apart. Whatever are you thinking not letting their little propaganda posts go unchallenged?

@Varex

Gore doesn't have and never had a private jet.
Nor does he fly around the world in private jets.

KING: All right. We have an e-mail from Jerry in Houston, Texas. "Mr. Gore, how can you fly in your private jet, live in a massive mansion and set an example for others?"

GORE: Well, first of all, I fly commercial most of the time. There are a few occasions when that's not possible. I came here on a commercial airliner and we just finished putting 33 solar photovoltaic cells on the roof of our house. We're right now in the midst of installing a geothermal system for the heating and cooling and changing the remaining lights and windows and insulation that haven't already been done and we are walking the walk and we're going to have a green standard, the LEED certification, for our house.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0707/05/lkl.01.html

"So tell me, what do you think happens to famous people when are isolated in a public place (like a public flight) with people who know that they are famous? Pandemonium, entropy, in general, it's probably pretty damn annoying for the person who is famous."

Maybe but that doesn't prevent Gore from flying commercial. How do you think this happened?

Ex-VP no airport VIP
Gore searched twice during Wisconsin trip

...
Passengers sharing Flight 406 were startled to hear Gore being told, "Sorry, sir, you have to go through extra screening," and to witness security personnel rifling through his briefcase and suitcase, a witness said.
...

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=51090

@Navarre

"What we should be doing is decreasing our energy use weather its green or not."

With that you said nothing. Who should reduce his or her energy use by how much? And who should
tell us how much we should or shouldn't use? You?
Why would you be an authority on this?
You think Gore is using too much energy. I don't.
I think he should produce and use even more to show that one can have a very high living standard without putting tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Don't forget that's what this issue is all about not energy consumption per se.

Gore's house in TN is a certified green building -- unlike 99% of US homes.
It doesn't matter how big it is. Nor does it matter how much energy the people in it use. (Gore is not alone there, don't forget) It can be 10,000 sq feet used by 20 people every day and still have a smaller carbon footprint than an average US home.
Gore never said that such old, inefficient buildings should be demolished. The question is what we should do with them. Retrofit or not. Gore did the former and he did an excellent job. People who own similar buildings should follow his lead.

If you produce your own energy without emitting GHGs you can use as much as you want it won't make global warming worse. There is no energy shortage on Earth, after all.
Gore,his family and employees use solar, wind, geothermal energy and methane gas to power their home/offices -- unlike most average homeowners in the US.

Your version of environmentalism, telling everyone that we should drastically reduce our energy consumption regardless of the energy source even if that leads to a lower living standard has been counter-productive and I'm glad Gore has not adopted your pointless, useless strategy.

And we are supposed to believe this because the fabricators at FOX told you something?

In fact why should we believe anything anyone in the mass media says about Gore? They lost
their credibility back in 1999. When it came to covering Gore the WaPo and the NYT were not better than Fox.

No it's not true that Gore started to buy "green energy" only in 2007. Nor is it true that he is "demanding that we all lower our standard of living". He didn't even suggest anything like that. You either don't understand the solutions he has been promoting or you simply like putting words in his mouth and ideas in his head because you hate him.

Take your straw men and try to fool others who know much less about Gore's real lifestyle than most of us here do.

"I simply participated in the conversation by linking an interesting article I saw from the nation's most popular network."

No that's not what you did. You came here and lied about Gore. Just like the folks over there at Fox do it all the time.
If you had been really interested in how much and what kind of energy Gore has been using you would have asked questions instead of declaring Gore is a "The Greenest Hypocrite of 2007."

"If Fox is biased what is Current?"

Not biased.
This bullshit story is not a Current Pick because most users gave it a redlight. That's called democracy. It has a 83% negative rating. Sorry, your item is not popular. That's it.

"So spit all the venom you want at us (the majority of Americans) who tune into FOX NEWS!!!
"

The majority of Americans do not watch FOX News.
Not even close to a majority.
"For the month of August 2007, Fox News averaged 1.43 million viewers during primetime.
The BBC reported that Fox News saw its profits double during the Iraq conflict. By some reports, at the height of the conflict they enjoyed as much as a 300% increase in viewership, averaging 3.3 million viewers daily."

And
"While more people are actively watching Fox News Channel at any given time, CNN still remains the leader in unique viewers."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel#Ratings

There are ~300 million people in the US.

"Talk about hypocrisy."

Talk about not understanding the point of greenlight/redlight system on this site. Which part of 'Nope' you don't understand?

@Conniepae

"Why you bother to come to current.com to post against Al Gore?"

Since when is Current about Al Gore?
Why shouldn't people post against him here when they
often post against various other people, like Bush for example?

The problem is not that he posted something against Gore. The problem is that he lied.

Nearly every political posting on current.com is anti-Bush, paranoia, etc... and even funnier they all seem to find their way to Current Picks. This posting has generated over 20 responses in less than 24 hours and yet it is ignored by Current. Heck, it's not even listed in currently popular. Talk about hypocrisy.

Current invites you to join the conversation, (oh, unless it's critical of Al Gore, of course.)

So here is an interesting fact to converse about...

Fox News currently leads the cable news market in the United States, earning higher points ratings than its chief competitors CNN and MSNBC combined by average viewership.

COMBINED!!!

So spit all the venom you want at us (the majority of Americans) who tune into FOX NEWS!!!

One last question...

If Fox is biased what is Current?

The trick to getting everything you want in life is to always be filled with gratitude and humility. It also helps to practice daily acts of extreme kindness and utter selflessness.- smorrisey

unreal...I have never encountered such a narrow-minded bunch of peeps as the current clanI would break down all your individual comments and tear them to pieces....but I really don't care enough.- smorrisey

Yep . . . all sides have been heard.

I don't see anyone here censoring the original poster of this or removing what they placed here. That would be Fascism. Those who do not like Fox News which includes me have a right to express that as well. It's called debate. And it is known that Fox News is not fair and balanced when it comes to Al Gore. Perhaps if the original poster had posted their own thoughts and actually attempted to have a debate besides side swiping here with a hit piece, it might have gotten a different reaction.

Since private jets and Al Gore were mentioned together, I thought I would post a great article about Al Gore and Jets. -- http://www.wingsofjustice.com/05/09/woj05016.html -- Al Gore is no hypocrite! He doesn't do everything for public opinion. There will never be enough for everyone. At Thanksgiving, people posted on Huffingtonpost.com that he should give up turkey, as though then he would be perfect? I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time. I hope he is pleasing himself!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/28/AR2007022801823....
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/milloy031207.htm

Here are some more sources that say the same thing as Fox News, and there are plenty more. Even though Al Gore does now buy green energy, an energy use of 20 times the american national average is still way too high, no matter what type of energy it is. Americans already use more energy per capita than almost any other nation in the world (minus Iceland, Luxembourg, and the persian gulf states [http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/energy-resources/variable-351.html]). This would but Gore as one of the highest energy users in the world. What we should be doing is decreasing our energy use weather its green or not.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that Gore's work with global climate change is wrong, or misguided. I believe there is a global environmental problem, but I believe the answer is decreasing or energy usage in combination with going green.

haha, Varex just told u how it is....! :P

Though I'm all for you expressing your opinion, whether or not it is one that is against Gore, I do have a complaint with the site from which you get your information. It is true that virtually all media is bias to some extent, some is liberal, and some is conservative. However, I have to agree with most of the people here when I say, Fox News is a crock of excrement. And I would not say that if they would drop the whole smoke screen of fair and balanced, and continued what they are doing. The problem is that Fox claims that they are a network without bias, and yet they are extremely conservative in the way the present their "news" stories.

Now I will yield that Al Gore probably has a much higher electric bill then the standard middle class United States citizen. And at times I am sure that his electricity bill can cost about 20 than the standard middle class citizen. I do not think that his monthly electricity bill is 20 times more than a middle class citizens on a regular basis. Then again, the average middle class citizen probably would not have either the social or political meetings in his/her home that someone like Al Gore might. And if you have a large number of people gathering in a large home, the consumption of electricity is going to probably go up.

As to his private jet, Al Gore is more or less famous. So tell me, what do you think happens to famous people when are isolated in a public place (like a public flight) with people who know that they are famous? Pandemonium, entropy, in general, it's probably pretty damn annoying for the person who is famous. I also imagine that it is pretty hard to get any work done on a flight when every other person is bugging you because they wanted to say hello to a celebrity. That said though, I also am unclear to how often he actually uses a private jet. If he only flies in it on specific and special occasions, then who the hell cares if he has it? In that case, calling him a hypocrite for having a private jet would be like calling a neighbor a hypocrite because he believes in global warming. But rather than take the bus every day, he/she will sometimes drive her car on the weekends.

Wrapping it up, if you want to post your opinion, then by all means do so. If you want to be taken seriously and receive less flak for it, then post a source that is more credible than an entertainment network with a political agenda posing as a news organization.

Dabne - Current.com is Al Gore's project. Most people here dearly love the man. Most of us do not watch Fox News because they support blindly the republican spin and perpetrate outright lies. Any one of us can give you examples, if you're interested let us know. The anger you're experiencing here is not at you personally (I'm speaking for myself), but at the fact that Fox News has kept you and many others in this country believing they speak the truth. Another reason we're upset is because we've been fighting against this particular spin that came out 5 minutes after he won the Nobel Peace Prize for weeks now.

Wow, I was told that Current was a place to share stories from throughout the web. I see all kinds of hate and anger posted towards me. I don't believe, I myself posted anything offensive towards Mr. Gore, I simply participated in the conversation by linking an interesting article I saw from the nation's most popular network. If Current wants to ignore the other half of the country and call them names then this is just another liberal blog. What a joke this website is if these hate responses are the best they have to offer.

Take your Fox News c### and put it where the sun don't shine. Al Gore has done more to bring consciousness of this global crisis to the forefront than anyone. I suppose that would irritate those who are the real hypocrites.... the ones who spout about peace and give us nothing but war.The ones who spout about caring for the poor and then cut healthcare for children. The ones who say they believe in Democracy and then steal elections and torture. When the neanderthal neocon lying hypocrites start living the lives they talk about, then maybe they will have a basis for judging others. And basically in this case, it isn't true. Mr, Gore offsets his carbon use and does not take private jets everywhere he goes. He has retrofitted his house to be green and is sincere about working to solve this crisis, which is more than can be said for the smirky buffoon he had to stand next to last week at the White House while he was being honored for receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. And I am sure that since yoiu posted this tripe here you are then more than willing to reveal your own carbon footprint. Can't wait.

Sorry, refuse to watch Faux News. However, even if Al Gore sold his homes and turned off all of his lights, lived in a tent and row-boated around the world - - the effect on Climate Change would be like a drop of water in the ocean compared the global changes that will take place because of his unwavering quest. So the man has money, he earned it being a visionary and investing in what he saw as the future. He deserves it and deserves to live how he pleases. He could just retire, go home and forget about the rest of us but he tirelessly promotes awareness on global warming and speaks out on behalf of our country in support of our constitution and freedoms. Do a little independent research Dabne and try permanently switching to other news sources.

FOX NEWS is a horror but a few in my family still watch it...That is one of the biggest problems of my life!

FOX news. Says it all, if it were print I wouldn't use to wrap dead fish 'cause it smells worse.

Gore has dedicated his life to saving the planet.

Bush has dedicated his life to destroying it.

Thanks for including the link from foxnews. If I need toilet paper today, I can print your post and wipe with pride. Although I do prefer white paper, the black print from fox would probably give my toosh a rash. America has seen the wonders of fox news, we are at war with Iraq and they have been beating the war drums for Iran. I think they should be going after Bolton for ditzing the NIE report. I for one don't want to hear, read, or see anything fox news thinks is good for print. The question in my mind is, 'Why you bother to come to current.com to post against Al Gore?'

oh, and this is your first post?? lol you're here to damage people's image, i get it now .. :)

LOL, whatever Dabne..... he does use "green" electricity, so what's up ur mambo?

Dabne, What are you doing for the earth? Do you ride a Bicycle?