Polar ice gone by 2012?

I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A POLAR BEAR - I MEAN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THEM SOMEWHERE (THIS IS DRIPPING WITH SARCASM).

will i love poler bears i really dont know much but i would love to find out

jonnat17 wrote :- besides - if they are right, it'd be good to be prepared - if they're wrong, then what have we lost?
jonnat17 that is the best way to think,and not to be like the green alarmist,
carol vorderman,a brilant mathatisan was on a green tv show and she proved them wrong in them saying that the sea rise 150 metres,what she done was calculated the mount of ice at the end of the last ice age,and what is left today,and how much the sea rise there has been between that time period, then work out the mount of today to no ice,and came up with a figure less than 30cm,there are points around the world where you can measure this like at eddy stone in the english channel

actually. the Mayan calendar only predicts a time of renewal....it's not supposed to be the end of the world - just the end of the world as we know it...

besides - at this point, we really can't afford to say they were kooky savages with vivid imaginations...And the fact that prophets all around the globe and from hundreds of different cultures all expect the shit to hit the fan at the same time - i think we'd be REALLY stupid to not lend a little credence...

besides - if they are right, it'd be good to be prepared - if they're wrong, then what have we lost?

jan for gore-

the mayans had at the end of their records a picture, in that picture they expressed a great flood, one that was so intense that it was to result in the end of the world. doesnt that now make more sense than ever..? scary but who knows if its true.

people need to know about this shit if anything is going to ever change.

the real reason why america not doing any thing is to amitt there is no god,us goverment got to keep the religious people happy
i wonder how many people have notice that the sun is lower down in the horzion for the last to 2 years this is just a cycle the earth go though every so often and global warming is the same,A 100 + years ago there was more co2 gases in the air than there is now but the planet was alot colder then, man only accounts for 2% to 10% of co2 gas the rest is just nature
the trouble is the people that going on about all this global warming to not take into account that the solar system only part of the milky way and has we spin round in the milky way and we move up and down in the galaxy the climate will change, then theres the orbit that the earth takes around the sun that changes to every so often,then you got to take into account that the earth gets hit with solar winds and solar flares,then theres the fact to that the moon is moving away from the earth at the rate of a 1cm a year,then you can move on to the planet,do they take into account that america is moving away from europe 2cm a year allowing more salt water being pushed up into the arctic

From what I've learned about the great topic that is Earth Science, the earth goes through periods of warm and cold (as mentioned above). Yes, the pollution that we produce does not help, but what Al Gore doesn't tell you is that volcanoes and other such natural disasters release carbon dioxide and other harmful gases into the atmosphere. However, if we could talk to these natural disasters and tell them to stop, they're killing us in more ways than one, we could solve this global warming catastrophe! However I'm sure if we did that then the world would stop spinning due to the lack of inner-earth activity and we'd all fly off and die.
The fact that America is doing anything at all to prevent all of this from happening is something that has more potential for good than evil. Despite the fact that it could have little to no effect on the environment.
My heart goes out to the polar bears though!

What's interesting to me is why the climate change skeptics feel so adamant that the CAUSE matters most. If your house were on fire would you seriously listen to someone telling you, "Relax! Stay where you are. There is no proof that we started the fire." But that doesn't change the fact that your house is buring down around you. Who cares WHAT is causing the droughts in the farm belt -- actions (specific to planning for decades long droughts. Dust Bowl 2 anyone?) needs to be taken! Farmers are going bankrupt, crops are wilting in the fields, critical water sources in the US are drying up --- meanwhile we have the Climate Change Skeptics are screaming, "Do nothing! This drought isn't caused by man! Let the crops wilt in the field because Al Gore is a commie!" What? Or rather, "WTF?" Why are we still even pretending these people have a valid point of view? We need to take action inspite of them. They need to lead, follow or go play in the corner while the adults handle the problem.

Does the Date really matter as to when the inevitable and devastating effects of global warming will effect those of you who are arguing about something so petty as an exact "time and date" that it will happen? The fact is just that.....it is a fact that it is happening. Granted, on Christmas Day 2012, you and I may not reap the consequences of devastation at that point immediately.....but how selfish to only think about what WE will experience. This dillema is not about our lifetime, it is about the lifetime of the earth, our children and beyond.

Maybe the Mayans were then right regarding December 21, 2012?