"No sun link" to climate change

this isn't an issue I particularly hold dear to me but...

despite the fact you may want to be even "politically" right, skepticism is good. and there's still quite a bit of controversy despite how politicized this issue has become. What I profess not to like for the sake of "being right" is potentially politicized bullying. a lot of people, like msyelf, are just catching up to this issue. you might not completely agree with "The Great Global Warming Swindle" but there are some very alarming politicization going on not as easily "debunked" about the "warming" movement. (Take the fact that very reputable scientists had to threaten suit to get his name off some of the crap he believed "warming" is being twisted to be. I didn't like seeing that shite at all, whoever's found to be right or wrong on the issue.) And it's the "skeptic" argument I'm hearing a lot more of that something's wrong with much of the basic supporting science for g.w. Can't these respectable people be satisified with legitimate science so that there is no question??? To be objective, I think they need to be.

But now it seems global warming enthusiasts are resting on their "laurels" because political winds are now at their back...*sigh*

I for one, although I agree with legitimate alternative energies, am not as swayed by self-styled "warming" environmentalists just because they "say" it's so. There's a lot more than meets the eye to this subject and I think it should be treated as such. I think you all should regard is an open debate for which the best we can do is reach for what we should have been reaching long before now...i.e legitimate alternatives. because further politicizing it is going to have potentially worse affects, like biofuels for instance which is largely thought to be "green" but the use of which will actually only increase greenhouse gases.

instead of going from ignorance to informed intelligence, we'll go from stupidity to stupidity. If people can be so instantly convinced about something so complex, it's probably not a good thing to begin with... I often wonder if it's the same self-styled environmentalists that would have had us dumping ash on the poles back in '74 to thwart the gobal catastrophe of gobal cooling back then...

no... i think skepticism definitely IS a healthy thing.

And the skeptics are really out of responses now.

I'm all for cutting back on the carbon "footprint" and saving natural environments particularly, so I don't think I have any real difference of opinion, but I think the actual hard science for global warming probably goes back a LOT longer than 20 years...

and that's a much better mug richjm! =D

It's not the sun causing the change, it's us human folk. And we're the ones who'll suffer too while the sun can just sit back and laugh, as suns are known to do.

And notice how the BBC calls it climate change ( which it is), but the American media still calls it global warming. Don't think there isn't a reason for that too. And what will the skeptics do now to lie to the people to preserve their own political and religious biases?