Wasted? Not Me

How did the man even get brought up? If we're geting into that, then every eer commercial and cig add is the man. Saying "This is what cool people do." "You're at a party? Your supposed to drink." There's really no public identification with sXe. It's a lifestyle; a choice.

there should be no rules. I thought the whole point about punk rock (and thus hardcore) was doing what you want to do and being free to do it. Ian MacKaye was singing about himself he never intended to start some movement with prescriptive rules telling people what you have to do. The 'straight edge movement' is no different to 'the man' and telling people what to do. Thus it is the antithesis of punk rock.

Kids today!

What's next? Vegancore?

I drink a lot...Of water! I can't exactly say I don't do drugs, I don't think anyone can! If there's a person who can honestly make me believe they don't do ANY drugs, I'll be overly impressed! It's 100% not possible!!!

Don't stereotype everyone who is straight edge as "those straight edgers". Drunks and people who are messed up on drugs do the same damn thing. So, i guess you're saying everyone who drinks and does drugs is just a trouble maker and ruins shows for everyone.

Hypocrite.

straight edgers also cause fights at perfectly good punk shows as well.

Straight edge has three rules.

No drugs.
No Alcohol.
No Tabacco.

Sex has nothing to do with it. That's a personal choice in your own straight edge nirvana. Just as some are vegans. It's a personal choice.

And if you have to drink, smoke, and do drugs to have a good time... Sad sad life. I'm sorry you live your life in a shell and need to become someone else to "have a good time".

i love music... and i don't drink smoke do drugs... well i guess i could say tea is a drug :D i listen to all genres but the main genre i like is electronic music. so if i was at some ibiza club i would stick out because of how clean i am

this video is dope as shit bro!

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"inside straight edge"

What I don't get about the straight edge movement is their penchant toward violence. Isn't violence worse then all the other things they hate?

Some of my favorite hardcore bands claim straight edge, but i drink. Here in Boston some x-edgers actually turn violent against people having drinks at shows. I guess that's the extreme though..

i was targeted, as a smoker, by the straight edgers at a particular location. i was outside a coffee shop in portland, and i was asked by a straight-edger to put out my cigarette. i told him that i have a right to smoke there. he slapped it out of my hand, even though i was being respectful, smoking away from others, and was in a perfectly legal area to smoke.

if they're all about 'not being a slave to drugs, drinking, cigs, sex' then that's wonderful. i think we could all learn from them. but the instant they oppress my personal rights, i'll come down on them with a vengeance.

yep been there , but beer is good once in a while

Straight Edge - isn't this just the invention of another form of social discrimination?

I'm glad to say I am not addicted to anything...

couple of drinks when i feel like it
i can't stand beer
nor cigarrettes
i don't drink coffee
i don't like soda
no drugs

although i'm curious about mushrooms

marihuana is ok, but not for me anyway at least not frequently
sometimes it's fine, it is not addictive

my diet includes as little meat as possible

and i'm the craziest and most uninhibited person my friends know...

I'm always there for the party!!

fact for you, Minor Threat famously drank A LOT of Coca Cola. Caffeine addicts!!! How straight edge is that!?

"Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do" as Adam Ant once sang.

I use to know a couple of people that were straight edge, they now drink, and drink quite a lot.

I was sxe for a month. Boy was I bored.

i have total respect for these guys. it's ironic that being straight edge is the against-the-flow thing to do and that getting wasted on drugs and alcohol is seen as normal, that's really sad

There are a couple groups of militant straight edgers around Lafayette (Purdue campus area) one group jumped a local punk band and there was basically a retaliation by local punks with the band about a week later.

What would the Sex Pistols say.

Tisk tisk.

I used to know a crews of straight edge kids in Boston, Jersey, and Tampa that they too followed the protocol. Didn't break edge. But they sure can be an angry crowd. I once was at a tavern in FL, where a fight started between a couple of frat boy types. They were then escorted out front where they would be greeted by four straight edge kids that were looking to fight. In the end, two people were hospitalized and the sober, straight-edge kids skipped away after causing a violent mess. That was 3 years ago. I'll paste a Wikipedia excerpt from the original straight edge movement...

"By the early 1990s, militant straight edge was a well-known presence in the straight edge music scene. The term militant described someone who was dedicated and outspoken, but also believed to be narrow-minded, judgmental, and potentially violent. The Militant straight edger was characterized by the following: less tolerant of non-straight edge people, more outward pride in being straight edge, more outspoken, and believed that violence was a necessary method to promote clean living."

My take on most of the current straight edge movement is that it came back together through the union of a small amount of hardcore, straight edge musicians that were of legal drinking age and their loyal, high school aged fans that Myspace had been flooded with in 2004-2005.

That's been my observation. Can't say I'm part of the movement, but so long as the violence doesn't continue, then keep on being clean.

@LJR - The term moderation is something some people fail to comprehend...

Still hats off to those that dont drink, smoke or do drugs

i admire your willpower and decisiveness. in fact, i think im a bit envious // hats off to you guys.

Good stuff! What next? Meditating punks!

- Straight edge wouldn't exist in a less oppressive and more free society because it would be a non issue. To drink or not drink shouldn't be an important question, but it is today, and that is why I think straight edge exists.

- One of the people in the video talked about the peer pressure he has to deal with when he goes to a bar. What about the peer pressure within the straight edge community of dressing, looking, or passing for straight edge?

- And on a side note, it was frustrating to see the woman at the end of the segment cut off by her friend. It probably isn't a big deal, but I think it speaks volumes to a western norm or meme of how white men are supposed to act.

I think the keyword here should be moderation. You can use alcohol without having to get totally smashed. I'm a punk, and I have the discipline to use alcohol in moderation. I do respect the straight-edge punks' mentality and beliefs, but I hate to see the punk scene split down the middle over things like this.