Justices cut damages award in Exxon Valdez spill
source: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Scotus-Exxon-Valdez.html?_r=1&partner=rssyahoo&e...
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Greensboro
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listen to the NPR report of this, its really good
- 3 years ago
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Greensboro
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1779fleet
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I know everyone is mad at big oil. but I clipped this directly from the article.
"Overall, Exxon has paid $3.4 billion in fines, penalties, cleanup costs, claims and other expenses resulting from the worst oil spill in U.S. history."
"Punitive damages" are awarded to spank the doer.
This was a case of "Some drunk wrecked his ship" if I remember correctly. Individual neglegence not corprate.
If you want to spank an oil company buy a hybrid.
- 3 years ago
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1779fleet
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dankitti
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At the end of the day, you'll be pauing for it anyway. They'll just increase gas prices again to cover it.
- 3 years ago
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dankitti
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---First-quarter profits at Exxon Mobil were $10.9 billion. The company's 2007 profit was $40.6 billion.---
Oh how the greedy continue to horde.
- 3 years ago
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HollybyGolly
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Born in Alaska, I've been avoiding Exxon oil for the last 19 years. The fishing industry in the Prince William sound has suffered beyond what any amount of money could cure. Over 6000 of the original plaintiffs have died (many due to suicide) and the town of Cordova has lost all hope for recovery. This is just adds a sad ending to a terrible tragedy.
- 3 years ago
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HollybyGolly
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Head_Hunter
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Exxon paid more in legal fees to fight this then it has paid to the people they hurt during this horriable time.
Those judges just prove everyones point. Big money can buy you justice..
LOOK AT OJ
- 3 years ago
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Head_Hunter
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stephenthomson
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as someone depicted on NPR yesterday, for the people of Prince William Sound, this spill was devastating to their livelihoods, like someone opening your refrigerator and pouring oil all over everything - and for years to come.
Many of the plaintiffs are DEAD already, because nearly 20 years have gone by!!!
And the ones remaining are given 15,000$ a piece???YGBFKM
- 3 years ago
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stephenthomson
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crob80227
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Geez! They already said they were sorry! What more do you people want? Ha ha.
Holy smokes! This must be what it feels like if you next door neighbor burns down your house, totals your car and then punches your grandmother in the mouth in a drunken rage.
"Sorry dude. My bad. Here's a check for $100 bucks. That oughta cover the damages and any, uh, inconveniences. Again, real sorry about everything. Anyhoo...gotta motor. Catch ya later!"
The courts later reduced that $100 check to $24.75.
:-(
- 3 years ago
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crob80227
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Becky6378
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Depressing. Things just keep getting worse and worse.
- 3 years ago
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Becky6378
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jvanauken
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how is this justifiable!?
- 3 years ago
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jvanauken
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Greensboro
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this sucks. its really not fair for the fishermen.
- 3 years ago
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Greensboro
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Those justices have been fair minded more so than most.
- 3 years ago
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J_Jammer:
I live on the planet that doesn't denounce people because of where they sit in the political scene.
- 3 years ago
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Saladin
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J_Jammer:
You live on a planet where you've forgotten that Supreme Court Justicecs aren't suppose to HAVE political opinions. It's their job to enforce the constitution and give out fair rulings. Furthermore, there wasn't even any politics involved in this case. It was just straight corruption. Why are you defending them?
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Saladin
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And gas per gallon shouldn't be so high. If they can pay in the billions for a problem they cause (not any more...millions) they don't need the amount of money asked for at the pump as so many people are suggesting is fair.
i can't believe people want to dictate fair with people who bathed Alaska in oil. Fair. Fair would be not cheating working class out of their lively hood for the billion dollar profit margin of a greedy company.
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petarro
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You can only act - Do not feed those who cause these trouble. Find a Greener -oil- free transport system and care about what you eat and how long it comes from.
- 3 years ago
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petarro
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allgoode21
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Disgusting, how can you justify giving a company with so much money, tax breaks, subsidies even more by slashing its damage penalties?
oh, that's right they've completely bought off our government, how can I forget? Its so blatantly obvious whenever you see stories like this.
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allgoode21
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mako2424
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This is absolutely disgusting and it comes as no surprise a bigger deal hasn't been made of the decision.
Once again, another huge corporation gets away with helping destroy the planet.
F*ck Exxon/Mobil and their sleezeball PR men.
- 3 years ago
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mako2424
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nkeg87
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im not even surprised.
- 3 years ago
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nkeg87
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stephenthomson
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this is one of the worst environmental disasters ever, and Exxon pays their pocket change for it? So corrupt.
kill them all.
- 3 years ago
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stephenthomson
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krystahardin
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No really, no big deal? If I was a sea otter who lived in Prince William Sound at the time I would be totally digging my crude oil bath of death.
"Thousands of animals died immediately; the best estimates include 250,000 to as many as 500,000 seabirds, at least 1,000 sea otters, approximately 12 river otters, 300 harbour seals, 250 bald eagles, and 22 orcas, as well as the destruction of billions of salmon and herring eggs."
"NOAA determined that as of early 2007 more than 26,000 U.S. gallons (22,000 imp gal/98,000 L) of oil remain in the sandy soil of the contaminated shoreline, declining at a rate of less than 4% per year."
"Now, 15 years to the day since the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history, the current [White House] administration's drive for oil and gas development is reversing policies that were put in place after the spill."
Ridiculously enough the lowest man on the totem pole is the only one who has to pay.
"Captain Hazelwood, he was fined U.S. $50,000 and ordered to perform a thousand hours of community service: picking up trash along the Seward Highway and working at Bean's Café, a soup kitchen for the homeless in Anchorage."WTF
- 3 years ago
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krystahardin
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jimmyp
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again?
- 3 years ago
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jimmyp
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csmonut
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Boo to the court system. Boo to the system that allows large businesses to get away with murder. A regime change may not take care of all the problems, may make things worse. But at some point things have to change. That is the only constant.
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csmonut
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parisinla
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WTF... They're so fired.
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parisinla
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PoliticalGeek
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parisinla:
Fired? Supreme Court Justices get those jobs for LIFE.
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PoliticalGeek
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A key passage:
Justice Samuel Alito took no part in the case because he owns Exxon stock.Sam Alito owns Exxon stock. I'm sure that had *no* bearing on this case. Riiight.
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PoliticalGeek
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PoliticalGeek:
How could it have had a bearing on the case if he recused himself?
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VoyagerFilms
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Come on now people, think: 1% of the money saved the Exxon is still $20,000,000.00 to each justice who voted for the reduction.
We just need to look oversees / off-shore to see which bank they sent the bribe to.
It's American's paying through the nose for outrageous and unjustifiably high gas prices and now were paying even more for it by subsidizing the criminal oil barons.
Only under the Ripusoffican, that's Rip-Us-Off-ican (again).
Let's show them all our appreciation for stealing from us all and get the miserable Republicans out of office completely!
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VoyagerFilms
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youngster227
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good god
- 3 years ago
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Ogmin
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I saw it too; but sandwiched between stories they gave much more attention to. It was merely reported as a fact with very little commentary on the injustice of this ruling.
- 3 years ago
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Ogmin
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Elligirl
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This wasn't "slipped by" at all. I saw it on the news tickers this morning on CBC and CNN. Awful news, though.
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Elligirl
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malathion
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as far as i'm concerned exxon should be paying the salaries of blackwater mercenaries to fight for oil .
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malathion
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Humdrum
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malathion:
Indeed.
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Humdrum
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Ogmin
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Good point Sarbury; just slip it past while the intellectuals argue about the ethics of killing pedophiles.
Supreme Court is owned by big oil.
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Ogmin
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Kismet_Sarken
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More proof people in this country in power do not care about the environment. The Natives there lost so much, not to mention the environmental damages which will continue there for years to come.
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sarbury
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of course this is the same day that news of the child rape case decision breaks. Distraction?
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Ogmin
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Native Alaskans fisherman involved in the case have each received about $15,000 so far ''for having their lives and livelihood destroyed" while first-quarter profits at Exxon this year were $10.9 billion.
The company's 2007 profit was $40.6 billion.
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Ogmin
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Ogmin:
Apparently that doesn't matter to those that you tell that too when talking about how much gas cost per gallon. They state that it matters not how much profit they make because apparently it cost a lot to run such big companies. Profit isn't in the billions just because they have it.
I think BS...but oh well it doesn't matter what I think. ha.
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