Darfur, Sudan, Oil, America and China
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- JanforGore
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If there was ever a reason to have a global climate treaty that gets this world OFF OIL it is this. To think of the inhumanities spawned by the greed of these people and that Bush will now use these Bejing olympics to make business deals rather than stand up for the human rights of millions around the world who have suffered and are suffering atrocities due to the insatiable greed for oil is unconscienable.
I am BOYCOTTING the Bejing olympics. I will not watch it, and I will no longer purchase any products from any sponsors of it if I do now. The human species will drown itself in its greed for oil as our planet balances itself precariously on the climate edge. How any world leaders can sit in Bejing and smile knowing what has transpired by the government of China and their own even against their own people shows they are no better. I as an American who believes in Human Rights and freedom denounce the Bejing olympics for what it really is to those in the Chinese government: propaganda to cover the tracks of monsters.
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pos_nir
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bravo an awakened person
but is it enough ?
boycott cars , cheese , meats , cooking oil , wheat , rice all blood money and all ill gotten gains
in other words grow your own
peace
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pos_nir
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jubal
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Global Climate Treaty
We need this very badly.
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jubal
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onechance
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To understand this further, watch "The Devil Came On Horseback".
http://www.thedevilcameonhorseback.com/ - 3 years ago
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onechance
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JanforGore
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Satyagrahi: I can almost be sure American athletes were told to keep quiet. Afterall, there is a a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ at stake and that is more important than peoples' lives. If I were an athlete I would refuse to go.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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http://www.atosorigin.com/en-us/Services/default.htm?nav=right
Atos Origin services.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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GE products which includes NBC television.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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List of Coca Cola brands.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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List of Johnson & Johnson products.
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JanforGore
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Satyagrahi
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It upsets me that the athletes aren't speaking up about this problem. I mean... they are informed, aren't they? I almost hope they aren't, because ignorance can be cured - apathy usually cannot be.
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Satyagrahi
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tagz
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i don't know where the woman in that interview gets her facts, but she certainly seems to have ignored the genocide going on there, in favor of a blame it all on america and corporations spin.
"china is helping the people of sudan develop..."
That's a laugh... china prevented the UN from "intervening" in Darfur for YEARS so that it could continue lining the pockets of the dictator there for his oil, while said dictator murdered and raped hundreds of thousands of people.
Between Fox news and this Rubbish, i don't know if there is hope for television at all.
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tagz
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stone246
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tagz:
Okay were you watching the same interview .... did you watch the interview at all.?
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stone246
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jjmaster
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It's hard to hear that the U.S. is still.... Oh jeeps, knowing of so many many problems going on everywhere, I can only conclude that we just keep on screwing everything up... Will it ever cease? This is modern day colonialism... "THE DEVIL IS LAUGHING AT US!"
- 3 years ago
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jjmaster
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Ice_cream_Man
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The athletes have nothing to do with it. Let them play the games. Protest all you want but dont ruin it for the athletes that have worked so hard to get where they are.
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Ice_cream_Man
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JanforGore
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Ice_cream_Man:
I don't recall saying anything about athletes. Boycotting sponsors won't hurt athletes... unless of course, this is now just about getting endorsements and money for themselves. Is it truly a spirit of brotherhood that brings athletes to these games, or is it all about making money and names now as well?
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JanforGore
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Ice_cream_Man
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Ice_cream_Man:
Im just saying sometimes when people protest they ruin things for others. Like the Olympic torch run for example.
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Ice_cream_Man
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JanforGore
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Ice_cream_Man:
Yes, that's called Democracy. Would you prefer people just stay silent about genocide so as to not make it uncomfortable for the "athletes?" Personally, I think more athletes should be speaking up about this instead of putting themselves first.
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JanforGore
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Ice_cream_Man
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Ice_cream_Man:
Genocide has been going on long before this. Protesting could have started long ago as well.
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Ice_cream_Man
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Vierotchka
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The USA is as guilty as China, and maybe even more so - it has been providing weapons, money and training to the rebels, because it covets the biggest and richest oilfield in southern Darfur of which China happens to have the concession. Click on the link for the details.
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Vierotchka
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JanforGore
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Vierotchka:
Can you imagine labelling the land people live on as "blocks?" As if those living on it are the ones who are putting the oil companies out.... If I am not mistaken lots 3, 3A, and others in that same region were the ones burnt down by the Janjaweed as they systematically slaughtered, raped, and tortured those living there. And now oil companies will come in and drill there for oil because the land was made uninhabitable. This is truly a crime of great proportions.
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JanforGore
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huntre
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Let's not forget that the US owes China an insanely huge debt that will never be fully repaid. This means that the US is under China's thumb and can't wiggle out.
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huntre
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JanforGore
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huntre:
Yes, so much for being a free country.
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diode
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oil isn't evil, oil isn't our problem. humans are the problem
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diode
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diode:
yes, we could always choose to leave it in the ground.
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3rdEye
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With everything in the world about power and being the front-runner in the world.....no governments want to take a stand first and stand up for this. As the old adage goes.."You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours"...No one wants to step on China's toes as they are making bounds in their economy and on a run for the power.
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3rdEye
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uroborus8
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That's because the American media is supported by the same sponsors that support the Olympics. They do not want to piss them off.
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uroborus8
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JanforGore
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Mia Farrow speaks on Bejing olympics and genocide in Darfur
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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I wonder who here is against stopping genocide and holding countries involved in it accountable.
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huntre
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JanforGore:
Who, oh who, could it be?
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huntre
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Future_America
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What makes this more outragous is that I haven't heard one single thing about this on any American news medias!
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Future_America
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stone246
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This is an important issue that should be getting a lot more coverage around the world. thanks for posting this janforGore. Also like the way you added a link to help support the victims of the genocide and also help stop it. I would like to point out though that you got this story from aljazeera tv network which as i recall was and is labeled as a terrorist supporter by the bush administration and some states have banned the network. interesting. and to see such quality journalism on television is incredibly rare in America . but non the less this should be a top priority for the world and is leaders. with increased pressure though , I believe that since Sudan now has a fiscal interest to the world the public can significantly challenge the oil companies to do something in terms of improving darfur's situation. but the public must be actively involved to achieve this.
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stone246
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JanforGore
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And to add: If you watched this video it shows that the Chinese pipeline is already pumping the oil to CHINA as is the other one to the US. How are the Sudanese people being raped and exterminated benefitting from that if they still live in abject poverty in an environmentally dessimated hell?
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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I didn't blame oil for starting this. If you read my original comment I stated it started out as an environmental disaster which continues. Nothing you can say wil change my opinion on this.The presence of the Chinese government in Sudan and its fervor to take its oil in cooperation with Bashir who I see as a clear human rights abuser is not something to be supported. And please, did this government's stealing Iraq's oil from its people lead to peace? OIL will not lead to PEACE, because if that were true we wouldn't be AT WAR with the world over it.
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JanforGore
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Help stop the genocide in Darfur.
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JanforGore
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I DO BLAME CHINA for what is going on in Sudan, and I blame the international community including this government for turning a BLIND EYE to it. And biofuels IN GENERAL are not causing food prices to go up. ETHANOL has and also the destabilization of poor government economies around the world by the WORLD BANK and IMF in order to introduce US and EU imports and GM foods.
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JanforGore
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mo1y
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Before we condemn China, our Biofuel are causing the price of food to go up around the world. Maybe the moto for Biofuels should be, "Biofuel your SUV, and starve a child"
By Biofueling you will be following the Green moto, "Biofuel locally and starve children globally."
Thank you Green Nazi's
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mo1y
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electricsquiral
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mo1y:
Ethanol can be made from anything that can be fermented. new methods of ethanol production use chaff instead of edible grain or corn.
Then there is algae; usable for production of organic oil's, ethanol, and fertilizer using nonarable land and brackish or polluted water.
Where did you get you're erroneous information, Fox News?
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Ayahuasca2012
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mo1y:
Mo1y -
Eat meat and you starve children globally as well... but its probably ok with you that 60% or more of the Corn grown in the U.S. goes to livestock which are in turn slaughtered... please tell me which is more wasteful... That is wasted food not to mention wasted farmland that could be used for a better product...
Biofuel does not need to be produced using corn by the way... there are many alternatives that are more sustainable and do not take away from food sources (corn is a terrible one anyway) such as Hemp.
Seriously... get a clue... Since you like slogans so much how about "Drive your 10 mile per gallon SUV while munching your McDonalds burger on the way to Wal Mart to support genocide and the destruction of our planet"
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Ayahuasca2012
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JanforGore
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List of sponsors for Bejing olympics I will now be boycotting.
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Ayahuasca2012
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JanforGore:
Thanks! I will make every effort not to support these companies.
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uroborus8
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JanforGore:
Thank you! You read my mind. Most of them I already don't purchase so it should be easy.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
Same here. And you're welcome.
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onechance
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JanforGore:
NICE JAN! Thank you!
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onechance
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JanforGore
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Yes, everytime we buy an item made in China we support genocide in Darfur with our dollars. I know it is hard to avoid since this country now prefers to outsource jobs to make cheap China crap, but I am trying my hardest to not buy anything made in China. I'm sick of it.
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JanforGore:
JanforGore I sympathize with your passion over Darfur so don't go nuts when I say this but your anti-Chinese product rhetoric needs to be qualified.
Every time you buy something made in China, you're not supporting genocide in Darfur, you're just keeping a Chinese worker in a job and their family fed - not everything they make is "crap" and by the same token US workers are quite capable of producing substandard goods. Most Chinese factory workers wouldn't even know Darfur exists let alone the problems there.
Western economies have ridden on the back of cheap Chinese manufacturing for years - Chinese products are so intrinsic to the US economy now that any ban on goods could only be for show - fact is, if you we were to really follow through with a proper boycott of all Chinese products the US economy would itself collapse. The plight of Darfur will not be aided by punitive boycotts of Chinese products - the Chinese government will keep on drilling, whether or not we make a whipping boy out of the manufacturing sector.
The real anger should be directed at successive US administrations for encouraging oil dependency, failing to support research and innovation (except in wasteful military hardware) and abandoning inefficient local manufacturing sectors when it was clear that an energy crisis was looming and that US industry could not compete with the cheaper labour available in newly industrializing countries.
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Paul_Flynn
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JanforGore
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War of the future: Oil Drives the Genocide in Darfur
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From the Sudan tribune: China Focuses On Oil, Not Sudanese Needs
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queenofit
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I agree completely with you JanforGore, indeed!
My only reason for the list of products, is that we should review our (society) own part in all of this. Certainly human life should not be put before our comforts? As a species, we have lost perspective!
I know I am going to hear flack from this, because someone is going to attack me for the plastic computer I am using right now. I just ask again, where does this greed end?
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queenofit
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JanforGore
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This is a moral issue... to think humans think $$$$$$$$$$ more important than human life is something I simply cannot wrap my head around! They shouldn't be drilling for oil in Sudan, they should be bringing those people solar energy and homes, and food, water, peace, and security! And President Bashir should be brought to the Hague for crimes against humanity. But then, I live in an alternate universe.
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JanforGore
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queenofit
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Hi JanforGore,
I am like you and see this greed for oil as unconscionable.
Yet, look what we have created in our society, and the world overall is getting more dependent upon these products.
Chemical companies create so much toxic waste, and their employees are subjected to all sorts of cancers,(not to mention the consumers) yet we consume so many of the products created by oil. Where does this end?
A partial list of products made from Petroleum (144 of 6000 items)
One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like:
(see link) - 3 years ago
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queenofit