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Marijuana initiative would allow pot sales at Ore. liquor stores

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By KATU Staff Video SALEM, Ore. - Relax it and tax it.

That's the motto behind a new cannabis initiative that would allow Oregon's state-controlled liquor stores to legally sell marijuana to adults.

Initiative backers said their plan would send 90 percent of the proceeds from the state's sale of marijuana to Oregon's General Fund, which could lower Oregonians' state tax burden.

Smaller percentages would go to funding drug abuse education and treatment programs.

The initiative would also legalize the growing of hemp, a non-drug variant of cannabis that can be used to make industrial-strength fibers and bio-fuels.

Supporters claim that allowing cannabis cultivation and sales through state liquor stores would add $300 million in combined tax revenues and savings to Oregon's budget.

Paul Stanford of the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act said the measure would also put a dent in illegal dealing of the weed.

"We want to take marijuana out of the hands of children and substance abusers, who control the market today, and put it in the hands of the state's liquor control commission and the age limit of 21 will be strictly enforced," Stanford said at a press briefing.

Supporters have two years to collect nearly 83,000 signatures to get the measure on the November ballot in 2010.
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71 comments // Marijuana initiative would allow pot sales at Ore. liquor stores

  • hunzedog
  • hunzedog
  • ButchCassidy
  • globewatcher
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      globewatcher  
    • this will answer all your questions regarding whats going on in Oregon. it is not some liberal wishful thinking. this is a very thoughtfully prepared proposal to the people of our beautiful state. as far as the feds go, they do not have the right according to the constitution to do anything about it. that is discussed here as well. we do still have a constitution, right?

    • 3 years ago
  • Zouave
  • melynda
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      melynda  
    • oh yay oh yay oh yay. My american dream is to sell pot and not be called a drug dealer. I much prefer drug peddler. I'm moving to Oregon!

    • 3 years ago
  • harayz
  • Lady_S
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      Lady_S  
    • Smoke on, instead of the government worrying about a drug that is the least of our problems, maybe they should be combatting the bigger societal woes, such as murder or homelessness. If they legalize it they cannot only gain taxes, but also regulate what's in it!! Da it's 2008, this should a been done in 1978!!

    • 3 years ago
  • Tradiggy
  • Patio_Patty
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      Patio_Patty  
    • Tradiggy:

      Even if they were willing to do that, which they aren't, it wouldn't net as much money as it does for them to be in the business...and if you think they're not, think again. The "War on Drugs" is a sham and so is our current government. Time for another tea party boys! It has been for a LONG time!

    • 3 years ago
  • kaseyrae
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      kaseyrae  
    • Wow. I can't wait for the federal dea agents to combat the state police like they do busting the "legal" compassion clubs in cali. Only in America my friends, will we see a civil war being fought between the federal government and the local government all while the everyday tv watching American could give a rats ass about it all together. This is serious people, and not just because of the right to use cannabis in general, but when has it ever been right to put sick people in jail when it was legal in the first place. The state and local government should have the right to make their own laws based on what the people want, that is what made America different than the other nations on the planet. What I want to know is why all the controversy and violence over a non-violent peaceful plant, especially when their is money to be made and taxes to be paid. Man oh man.

    • 3 years ago
  • mchav18
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      mchav18  
    • Even I must say that it would not be such a bad thing. I don't smoke it, but statistically, how many people die in car accidents each year compared to the number of people who die in marijuana related accidents? How often do you even hear about a marijuana related accident? I personally have never heard of one. I think it needs to be legalized throughout the entire nation. How many people are held in prison or jail for possession? Far too many. Even as a Christian, I know that it would be physically impossible to stop people from doing it and I for one am tired of paying for all the people they throw in jail for it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Captain_Beefheart
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      Captain_Beefheart  
    • I want it to happen, it would be great if it happened...
      It ain't gonna happen! The religous right controls america and don't forget it. The people who own america will not let it happen, even if it's for a week, they will stop it, same as gay marriage and medical marijuana.
      Give a fed your medical card and your bag and see what happens.

    • 3 years ago
  • Bstyle
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      Bstyle  
    • I was just in oregon a few weeks ago. It is so relaxed up there!! I was pulled over and the lady police officer just told me to be careful. ( I did get a seat belt ticket) If the law was changed there hopefully that would set a precedent where I live. (kc,mizery)

    • 3 years ago
  • Patio_Patty
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      Patio_Patty  
    • I've always advocated the legalization of pot. I'm particularly pissed that they made it illegal to begin with. How can you control what God made? I think that's a pretty ballsy move by our government, but then, they do whatever they want don't they?!? Alcohol kills hundreds but I've never known a pothead to crash a car. Use of hemp in other areas is a plus too...fixing the hole in the ozone for instance...terrific for rope and canvas-type applications. There's a lot more good to marijuana than just smoking it. Whatever it takes, let's get it legal!!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • sox1919
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      sox1919  
    • It's about time!!!! Gee wiz how many deaths have alcohol caused???? and this is legal I would rather be around-work around someone high than some one drunk.Should be legalized across the US.

    • 3 years ago
  • saverio
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      saverio  
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    • Check out what's happening in Italy.
      Good news for the Rastafarian communities if they can manage to obtain a similar authorisation in the US...

    • 3 years ago
  • MaryJane20
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      MaryJane20  
    • Dude, that would be badass if they sold Marijuana at liquor stores. They need to do it all over the country! But of course we know Texas (where I live) would be the last effin state it would happen in.

    • 3 years ago
  • jvanauken
  • THEREisHOPE
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      THEREisHOPE  
    • I was under the impression that it was a federal law that prohibited the selling/use of marijuana. If that is the case, then it would still be a federal crime - even if Oregon allows it. Just like Denver, CO allows people to carry up to an ounce of pot, its still illegal in the U.S.

    • 3 years ago
  • jpoRS
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      jpoRS  
    • Come on guys, you should know better than this. It isn't going to happen. How many times have we seen this happen before, someone proposes a way to legalize trees, but it never comes to fruition.

      If you want to do something about our drug laws, token efforts like this to make it ok with the government isn't going to work.

    • 3 years ago
  • shadowtrekker
  • deane
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      deane  
    • oregon needs to market marijuana like our gop markets war. liquor store becomes freedom store, and grow the freedom marijuana at the freedom farms.

    • 3 years ago
  • darkhorsejim
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      darkhorsejim  
    • Just when you thought Oregon couldn't grow-I mean go any greener. WOW, how thrilling. Yet 1 more state hoping to realize the tax revenue, health benefits & judicial cost savings for legalizing a wonderful weed. Congratulations!

      But hopefully Massachusetts is going to beat you to it, ultimately benefiting Oregon, because we will finally vote in November ’08 not only for president, but also to decriminalize ganja by checking yes or no. This is like the end of Prohibition for us now! Not to mention the boom for hemp farming & all of its wonderful sustainable uses that couldn’t have come along at a better time.

    • 3 years ago
  • Robroy1
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      Robroy1  
    • Marijuanna and drugs should be legalized already, quit wasting money on the DEA and let the local cops find some real employment besides jailing some pot smokers who are harmless and hurting no one and have every right to enjoy a little mother nature.

    • 3 years ago
  • DELAMOTA
  • edenfiu
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      edenfiu  
    • how much would the weed cost? how would the quality be? and how much would they sell to you? those are the important questions

    • 3 years ago
  • Prijedor
  • Prijedor
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      Prijedor  
    • Prijedor:

      They just can't come out and say HEY its legal!! then they will look stupid, so they will feed it state by state.
      We also can't forget the perscription drug companies, they will need time to think of something, maybe this is why I am hearing about people miss using perscription pain killers.
      I've also seen on news police close few doctors down because they were giving out those pills to anyone like 'candy'

    • 3 years ago
  • Hellssatans
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      Hellssatans  
    • Love the idea but I fear the federal government will react the same way as they did to medical marijuana store fronts in LA. They raided them, confiscated all their supply and put many out of business. Would the liquor store owners be protected from the same treatment?

    • 3 years ago
  • currentlyJessica
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      currentlyJessica  
    • It's funny to think on how fighting the war on drugs could possibly be reduced if we just legalize pot already. People who smoke it are going to get it anyways....why doesn't the gov't just make money off of that too? It could be a new busniess..."Oh Jessica, what do you do for a living"? "Oh you know, farming".
      It would become ordinary, and eventually not a big deal anymore. (Go Oregon) (Go Oregon Farmers) New generations bring new life.

    • 3 years ago
  • piff
    • piff [removed]  
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  • vitalmaggi
  • M_Pavlov
  • Enjoy_Cannabis
  • rabidlemur
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      rabidlemur  
    • As long as it is regulated and controlled like alcohol I don't see a problem, last thing we need is drunk and stoned people out driving =/

    • 3 years ago
  • damush
  • pigmonkey
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      pigmonkey  
    • According to two cops, my car smells like pot and I have never smoked in it . If this passes then what are cops going to use as an excuse to seach your car? You smell like pills?

    • 3 years ago
  • TopScruffy
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      TopScruffy  
    • If you don't think it will pass you are underestimating the people of Oregon's ability to think. It's actually a good thing that it wont be on the ballot until 2010 because they will have time to inform everyone about it and let it settle in a bit before people go out to make their final decision.

    • 3 years ago
  • elisealcyone
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      elisealcyone  
    • I think this is great, but I'm wondering... how can a schedule one drug be sold at a liquor store? any insight anyone? I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade with technicalities, I'm just really curious..

    • 3 years ago
  • cheyroze
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • northstar13
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      northstar13  
    • Please don't let the states liquor control commision be in charge of the sales and regulations of marijuana. Liquor and marijuana are two different classifications of controlled substances. This would be like selling childrens toys in an adult sex shop...thers just no reason that the two should have to be sold side by side. Give Marijuana some credit (don't make it stoop down to the level of liquor) and give the cannabis smokers their own store.

    • 3 years ago
  • bansheewail
  • elisealcyone
  • ikeula75
  • shadowtrekker
  • dedemetal
  • edbr
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      edbr  
    • i'm so happy to see this, though i am very concerned about the federal response to this. look at how the feds have interfered with the voter approved pot laws in california. will we just see a repeat in oregon, or will the federal government finally acknowledge the states' rights?

    • 3 years ago
  • CaptSutter
  • JLAZ
  • macdontcare
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      macdontcare  
    • JLAZ:

      One step at a time. If you're 18 now, how old will you be when it passes?( remember there is always some kind of lag time when a bill like this goes through, they need to get all their ducks in a row ) Who knows you might be 21 when it becomes available in stores!
      We still live in a country that is willing to send you off to die in a foreign land at 18, but they won't hand you a beer!

    • 3 years ago
  • Technobarde
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      Technobarde  
    • Sweet! Finally an initiative that has a shot. I was most disappointed by the recent California one which turned out to be nothing more than a silly libertarian manifesto. This new initiative just might pass the test.

    • 3 years ago
  • NaCl
  • TDubs
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      TDubs  
    • Alcohol rules the land and fills the courts with all sorts of ethanol fueled crimes. Weed on the other hand?? Study the history of drug laws, especially, California and San Francisco and you will quickly see they were spawned from fear and egocentrism not a pure desire to protect people from themselves which always fails. It's a long road of failures and contradictions powered by a desire to control people and wealth. That's what's up.

    • 3 years ago
  • pokesmot
  • subversivelyhere
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      subversivelyhere  
    • this seems like a great idea to me. prisons are filled with first time drug offenders, many of them with possession of marijuana. legalizing it would help with the recession and cut down on overcrowded prisons. if oregon starts this trend, hopefully more states will follow.

    • 3 years ago
  • bansheewail
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      bansheewail  
    • subversivelyhere:

      Nice comment. De-criminalizinig Cannibus is the answer to many of our connundrums as a country and as a people. From healthcare to our failing prison system, from bio-mass fuels to our paper needs, you are right the benefits are endless.

    • 3 years ago
  • piperpicked
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      piperpicked  
    • This will do wonders for lowering their crime rate. It might even curb binge drinking in young adults. A lot more than pot will be affected by this in a good way.

    • 3 years ago
  • cleansouth
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      cleansouth  
    • I agree. Weed was easier to get as a child than tobacoo or boozes. Set the age limit to 21 and inforce it strictly with large fines. Take the power and money back from the black market and invest it in treatment and education.

    • 3 years ago
  • rabidlemur
  • huffamoose2k
    • 0
      huffamoose2k  
    • That's all well and good, but what about the rest of the country? It is a natural substance that is way less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.

    • 3 years ago
  • xplayhousex
  • oahspe
    • 0
      oahspe  
    • We need to legalize pot like, 38 years ago!

      Prohibition of Pot, much like prohibition of alcohol in the U.S. and other places (where it has led to revolt), will not last.

      I was hoping for something a little sooner though... They have to get all those signatures to be placed on the ballot and that isn't till 2010! Why can't they just legalize TODAY?

    • 3 years ago
  • ivxx
  • Enjoy_Cannabis
  • bansheewail
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      bansheewail  
    • Jade,
      High. I guess, it's the easiest way to fit the new product into the tax collection apparatus. They are going to use the system and regulations that are already in place. It's all about the money. It's a step in the right direction. From stress and pain relief to bio-mass fuels hemp and cannibus are the way to go. Take care,

      Bansheewail

    • 3 years ago
  • jade_azul16
  • uroborus8
  • kokoshka
  • cerealforeal
  • bansheewail
    • 0
      bansheewail  
    • They want to sell joints in the liqour store. How about that for a token issue?!? It's high time that logic to seeps into the legislation. The benefits far outweigh the risks. Tax revenue will be higher and the burden of incarcerating non-violent drug offenders will become more mellow. The benefit to sick people who can't afford insurance will be a blessing from the most high. This is a smokin' idea. Go Ducks!!

    • 3 years ago
  • macdontcare
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      macdontcare  
    • bansheewail:

      I lived in Oregon once. I loved it! If something like this was to pass, they would soon find out, it is now a pot store that also sells liquor. Dey gut tha goods in da Northwest ya! Puff-puff!!!

    • 3 years ago
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