Gov't aims to fluoridate 75% of the US water supply by 2010 whether you want it or not
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by Paul Connett, PhD
Professor of Chemistry
St. Lawrence University
Canton, NY 13617
http://www.fluoridealert.org/50reasons.htm
"Water systems serving about 30 percent of Americans are not giving them fluoridated water, six decades after fluoridation was started as a public health measure to prevent tooth decay, officials said on Thursday.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention hails the reduction in dental cavities due to adding fluoride to public water supplies as one of the top 10 public health achievements of the 20th century.
Most Americans get their water from municipal or regional community water systems. A new CDC report showed that as of 2006, 69 percent of people in the United States who get water from these systems received fluoridated water, up from 65 percent in 2000 and 62 percent in 1992.
That means that while 184 million Americans get fluoridated water from community water systems, 82 million do not.
"This is one of the dirty little secrets -- that the whole nation has not yet embraced fluoridation of water, which has enormous public health benefits," Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, said in a telephone interview.
Fluoridation of public water supplies was introduced in 1945 in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
"It's still an under-utilized, very effective public health measure," Dr. William Bailey of the CDC's Division of Oral Health, who led the report, said in a telephone interview.
Some major cities still do not fluoridate their water supplies, including: San Diego; Portland, Oregon; Honolulu, Hawaii; and Wichita, Kansas. San Diego has committed to begin fluoridating its water by May 2010.
In California, the most populous of the 50 U.S. states, only 27 percent of people served by community systems were getting fluoridated water as of 2006, the CDC said. Only Hawaii (8 percent) and New Jersey (23 percent) were lower.
Fluoridation has remained controversial among some people. In fact, some opponents in the 1950s denounced it as a communist plot, which was lampooned in director Stanley Kubrick's 1964 Cold War satire "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb."
Current opponents argue the fluoride being added to water may cause a health problems such as weak bones and bone cancer, an assertion the CDC rejects.
Asked if there is any responsible evidence showing negative health effects due to fluoridated water, Bailey said, "No, not at the levels that we use in community water systems."
The CDC report showed other states with low percentages of people served by community systems getting fluoridated water included: Oregon (27 percent), Montana (31), Idaho (31), Wyoming (36), Louisiana (40) and New Hampshire (43). Fourteen states topped 90 percent. Washington D.C., was at 100 percent.
"Most people are complacent about the issue because they just naturally assume they live in a city that's fluoridated," Bailey said.
Fluoride is added to water -- either in powder or liquid form -- at water treatment plants, normally at levels of about one part per million, Bailey said.
Roughly 10 percent of Americans, mostly in rural areas, get water from wells, and this typically is not fluoridated. Also, many Americans drink bottled water that is not fluoridated.
The government's goal is for 75 percent of U.S. residents on community systems to be getting fluoridated water by 2010."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080710/us_nm/water_usa_dc
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Zap
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fluoridate this!
- 3 years ago
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Zap
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meerfokus
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massanova has it down! Cmon, do you really think that our government cares that we all have good teeth?? really?? WAKE THE FU*K up!!! my mom has always drank water from the fosset as i was growing up. now she has thyroid dysfunction and that is also caused by flouride in water. and whats worse brain damage or your teeth looking bad?
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meerfokus
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vitalmaggi
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Its good for you teeth, yes. But not to ingest, no no no.
- 3 years ago
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vitalmaggi
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mookster_07
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Flouride is good for your teeeth but bad for almost every other functioning system in our bodies. We get enough flouride in toothpaste now to fulfill our needs. Injesting flouridated water is killing us slowly.
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mookster_07
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PlatoTacius
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If a fish won't have anything to do with it at .21 parts per million, I don't want anything to do with it at all...
What rocket scientist came up with the brilliant idea that flouriide is good for teeth anyway..? What hat did they pull that out of..?
- 3 years ago
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PlatoTacius
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Hawkmang
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PlatoTacius:
Check out Robert Sterling's article "The Fluoridation Fraud" that appears in "Abuse Your Illusions: The Disinformation Guide to Media Mirages and Establishment Lies." The history of American water fluoridation is despicable.
- 3 years ago
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Hawkmang
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maasanova
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Water fluoridation is not practised in almost all other European countries, yet our government pushes this chemical additive for our teeth.
Like they really care so much about our teeth.
- 3 years ago
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maasanova
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joshua2310
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Good, when are they going to classify our drinking water as a schedule 1 drug? With all of the pharmaceutical and other drugs that are being discovered in our water supply, how can they not?
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joshua2310
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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I'm all for including health insurance...
But...
Health insurance doesn't take care of the cost of a cavity..it may give you a discount but it might not cover
the entire cost.It won't cover braces or bridges or any other stuff.
And this stuff isn't free to a good home either.
It costs a lot.Dental care is a lot more expensive than a regular trip to your md because of a upper bacterial infection.
It's really more akin to going to the hospital.
- 3 years ago
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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Next you guys will tell me that cholrinated tap water is bad because of the small amount of chlorine that helps to keep down bacteria in the water!
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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joshua2310
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PatrickEdwardMurray:
chlorine will scar the inside of your arteries,
it will also kill your fish in your fish tank, kill plants and cook meat/fish when you rinse them off and not dry it off. give it a try. - 3 years ago
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joshua2310
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Hawkmang
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PatrickEdwardMurray:
Chlorination is for purification. Fluoride is introduced as an "enhancer" and once ingested is essentially an unprescribed and coercive form of medication.
By the way, the only evidence of health benefits of fluoride are for TOPICAL applications. Not ingestion. Ingestion leads to fluorosis in addition to brain, spinal and kidney damage. Fluoride's toxicity level is just above lead and below arsenic.
- 3 years ago
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Hawkmang
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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Let's take a poll...
Out of those posting here who are against flouridation, how many of you have ever lived anywhere that did?
I have.
It helps to prevent cavities.
Again, I say....
If it's so bad, why does your dentist give you flouride treatments?
It hardens the enamel of your teeth making it harder to prevent cavities.
Look, I think this is extreme environmentalism akin to
screaming one's head off because people eat animals like beef.... - 3 years ago
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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ifthatsalright
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PatrickEdwardMurray:
This is the only thing i'm going to say to you, I don't want to waste anymore time on your stupidity.
number one:
"Look, I think this is extreme environmentalism akin to
screaming one's head off because people eat animals like beef.... "What does this even mean? There are no "beef" animals running around, so I'm not sure what "eating animals like beef" means, making that sentence completely invalid.
Anyway, your dentist doesn't hand you glasses of fluoride to drink, and once he does use fluoride YOU SPIT IT OUT. Okay it might be good for your teeth, but it's a poison to drink and to put in your body.
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ifthatsalright
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vinniedelgreco
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Sodium flouride was the original form of flouride tested by the govt. for use. None of which is still used today because of the cost. Cheap less effective forms are used in water today.
- 3 years ago
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vinniedelgreco
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naturalselection
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The government needs to mandate dental insurance along with health insurance. More than 100 million people do not have dental insurance. Dental health can have a negative effect on physical health causing such problems as heart disease. Putting fluoride in our water is an easier solution for them. In the end doctors, pharmaceutical and insurance companies win because we will all be sick from the constant poisons this government allows to be administered to us. They really do give a shit about us in this great, free so called democracy that we live in.
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naturalselection
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snakatz
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It sounds like most people are well informed. Another point that is VERY important, is that fluoride is accumulative; which means that it just keeps accumulating in the body primarily in the skeletal system and is not flushed away. That is why there is such a big problem with the elderly just doing something as simple as standing up and having their legs or arms shatter. Let's call it what it is legalized forced medication...what next?
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snakatz
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ladyshiba
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Between the ages of 1 and 4, I lived in Greece, where the water was floridated. My teeth have never had a cavity, which is nice. However, they have a strange, chalky look about them, and a few are slightly odd in shape. This condition is called fluorosis. I've seen pictures of what a more long-term exposure to fluoride can produce, and in terms of cosmetics, these unfortunate individuals might as well have their teeth rotting out of their heads.
Take a look.
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ladyshiba
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atee
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What's safe to drink anyway? there's acid rain, there's poisoned ground water... and now our government is fucking it up. WTF are we doing? Is our "advanced" civilization so much better? We can't even live off the land anymore, Native Americans lived there for well over ten thousand years, we've screwed everything up in less than one thousand.
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atee
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csmonut
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The consensus here seems to be; we all agree it is bad stuff. Many people now drink bottled water not realizing that it comes from municipal supplies and unless they use an RO system, plenty of flouride remains in the water.
For conspiracy theorists out there; it is a handy injection point for more lethal substances. - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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jubal
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Flouride isn't even good for teeth.
That is just a bunch of hype. I have seen pictures of what flouride can do to teeth.
Flouride is a poison and it destroys your body's ability to absorb oxygen.
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jubal
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jjmaster
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More forced entry!
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jjmaster
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atee
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Fluoride: Good for teeth, bad for brains. Seriously.
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atee
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Psychedelic
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Nazzi doctors tested fluoride as a means of controlling the population. It caused damage to the brain there by making them lethargic and more easily controlled.
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Psychedelic
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queenofit
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AbstractArtist:
Yes, yes, yes! Thanks for posting this.
I read a pretty extensive article regarding this substance, (a few years back) and it was cheaper to "sell" it off as some heath benefit than to pay for the legal disposal of it. Greed, I am telling you..."follow the money"
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queenofit
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Egnatius212
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I am glad I have a well.
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Egnatius212
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JanforGore
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Hmm, is this government in collusion with companies to turn people onto bottled water because they are losing money now?
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JanforGore
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johnmcstupid
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the gov. doesn't want us to live any longer then 65 years old, otherwise it cost them money.
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johnmcstupid
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huffamoose2k
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Only young people need Flouride for their developing teeth. Once you get older, it is not good for you. DOes the government WANT to keep us ill. They want us to keep needing Rx Drugs and hospitals. God Forbid we be healthy.
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huffamoose2k
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Hawkmang
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Fluoridation is one of the biggest scams of the 20th century. I highly recommend reading Robert Sterling's article "The Fluoridation Fraud" that appears in "Abuse Your Illusions: The Disinformation Guide to Media Mirages and Establishment Lies." Here's an excerpt from the article:
"For all the billions saved and earned by the military-industrial complex because of water fluoridation, however, the most important number comes from Drs. Burk and Yiamouyinnis: 30,000 to 50,000 deaths each year from various causes may now be attributable to fluoridation. This total includes 10,000 to 20,000 deaths attributable to fluoride-induced cancer every year.
Does this sound like an exaggeration? Consider that fluoride is more toxic than lead, and not quite as toxic as arsenic. In April 2001, there was deserved outrage in the US over the Bush Administration's decision to weaken regulations limiting arsenic in water. Rather than changing the limit to 10 parts per billion, the decision was made to leave it at 50 ppb. Lead is at 15 ppb. Meanwhile, fluoridated water has, on average, over 1 part per million, not billion, or one thousand ppb, which is twenty times the higher arsenic level chosen.
All of which makes the promotion of fluoridation perhaps the most amazing scam of the twentieth century. There perhaps has been no better example of how an inherently dangerous product linked to poison, pollution, and weapons of mass destruction has been transformed in the public's eye into a paragon of health. It is the ultimate con job in terms of mass manipulation, the perfect emblem of 'toxic sludge is good for you' mentality promoted by the poison-PR industry..."
Websites for further research:
Earth Island Journal Special Section Fluorides and the Environment
http://www.earthislandprojects.org/eijournal/fluoride/fluoride_index.html
Fluoride Action Network
http://fluoridealert.org/
NoFluoride.com
http://nofluoride.com/ - 3 years ago
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Hawkmang
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Dmitri_Molotov
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It should be up to the county, determined by a popular vote.
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Dmitri_Molotov
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maasanova
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Dmitri_Molotov:
At first I thought I read country, but yes a county vote is a much better idea. I'm not drinking it regardless.
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maasanova
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HellaDelicious
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Uggg. Crazy that so many people still think that fluoridated water is a great solution--slow poisoning to take away your spunk and spirit and make you complacent and foolish, easy to manipulate and round up into sheeple corrals.
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HellaDelicious
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queenofit
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I take every precaution I can to NOT consume this "industrial waste":
New York - April 22, 2004 - Many dentists and most of the public are
unaware their fluoride-laced glass of water is actually spiked with an
impure industrial waste product (fluosilicic acid), "scrubbed" from
Florida phosphate fertilizer smokestacks.New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc
My personal view; if you want to drink "industrial waste" go get some and add it to your water, and please ... government leave my drinking water alone.
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queenofit
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Jasb
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http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/index.html
Fluoride attacks the brain and lowers your IQ over long periods of time. Even if you dont get it from the water you drink, many fast food restaurants put it in their food. Its toxic waste that is too expensive to dispose of legally, so they had it lobbied into our water supply. Thank your corporate government for that one.
If you live in a place with fluoridated water, i would look into the Berkey Light Water filtering system with the extra PF-2 filter(fluoride is so hard to remove it takes its own filter). I've been using it for about a year now and its some of the cleanest water I've ever had.
http://jamesfilter.com/berkey.aspx
http://jamesfilter.com/addonfilters.aspx - 3 years ago
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Jasb
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queenofit
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Jasb:
Thanks for the link ;)
- 3 years ago
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queenofit
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vitalmaggi
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Jasb:
THANK YOU!
I've been looking into filtering fluoride out of my water! - 3 years ago
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vitalmaggi
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mjsmith11
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I like fluoridated water. It works. There is zero harm in adding flouride to water. You can buy fluoridated water in stores.
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mjsmith11
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ifthatsalright
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mjsmith11:
Zero harm? Did you go out and test this yourself? Where do you get your information, from the government?
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ifthatsalright
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shroomfairy
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Thank goodness for my well water!
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shroomfairy
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csmonut
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Good point, maasanova
- 3 years ago
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csmonut
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maasanova
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You're not supposed to swallow your toothpaste, so why are you supposed to swallow fluoridated water?
- 3 years ago
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maasanova
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csmonut
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There is a big difference between getting a flouride treatment every 6 months or a year, and ingesting it into your system every day.
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csmonut
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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Flouridated water works to prevent cavities.
If it was so bad for us, why the heck do dentists give flouride treatments?This is a no brainer.
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PatrickEdwardMurray
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T_Rose
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PatrickEdwardMurray:
no brainer? Dentists use flouride because it prevents cavities. That's what dentists care about. Flouride is a poison. Does the dentist ever tell you to swallow that flouride? no.
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T_Rose
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ifthatsalright
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PatrickEdwardMurray:
It is not a "no brainer." The dentist uses it while he cleans your teeth to prevent cavities, he doesn't give you glasses of it to drink. It may prevent cavities, but it's a poison, and you're swallowing it in your water, not when you're at the dentist.
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ifthatsalright
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csmonut
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I once watched a water treatment plant operator take a load of flouride. He was in a full HAZMAT suit with supplied air. This stuff is so toxic that one small sniff, and he would be dead.
The city in question was one of the last to add flouride, even though the people that appeared at the city meeting were opposed to the idea.
It seems as though any time a company or government entity want to go against the will of the people, they use the excuse, "It's for the good of the children." - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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huntre
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A list of news related links fron the Flouride Action Network...
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huntre
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csmonut
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huntre:
Thanks for the link. I'm glad I'm on a well.
- 3 years ago
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csmonut
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huntre
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Brent Foster, State Conservative Chair for the Oregon Sierra Club weighs in...
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huntre
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maasanova
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huntre:
Cool thanks for backing me up!
- 3 years ago
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maasanova
